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Imtiazk
July 2, 2007, 02:34 PM
Please leave out the lack of pace nonsense. Rasel has the same pace as Vaas. He may not be in the same league but then none of our bowlers are.

We already have two right arm bowlers in Murtaza and Shahadat. Why a third ? And, Sharif is not exactly a world beater. I hope I am proved wrong !

Rasel's left arm bowling would have added variety. His forte is his accuracy. He also very cleverly disguises his balls. No doubt he had a good world cup.

Kabir
July 2, 2007, 02:38 PM
I have the same questions. But there're no answers.

I'm afraid management's making the same mistake of considering a mediocre player with 14ish batting avg as a strong candidate for replacing Razzak. Insanity has its limits too, you know.

Ajfar
July 2, 2007, 02:41 PM
sharif can bat a lil..bit...soo...that prolly gave him the thumbs up...

sandpiper
July 2, 2007, 02:42 PM
Rasel could be a better choice, I guess. lets hope for the best. Its a mammoth task ahead of Sharif.

Kabir
July 2, 2007, 02:43 PM
Little bit? Where? I haven't seen anything. Out of 9 Tests, he scored 114. If he could bat a LITTLE bit, he would've scored 228+. This is Test cricket, not freakin ODI, that there has to be some kind of target within which he has to score some runs. Same goes for other batsmen though.

rubel_18
July 2, 2007, 02:45 PM
Once again the stupid selectors make a big mistake, why wud u put sum1 like sharif in the test squad wen uhv sum1 like Syed Rasel, I just dont get it i guess we better wish that Sharif plays gud.

AsifTheManRahman
July 2, 2007, 02:51 PM
I guess it's because of Rasel's limitations with the old ball and Sharif's supposed ability to do wonders with it, something that I'm yet to witness.

When I'd seen Sharif bowl six/seven years ago, I didn't find much to say about him. There'd been a lot of fuss about him and how he could "reverse swing" the ball, but how can you ever do that if you're not bowling around 90 mph is beyond me. Besides, if he'd shown promise, so had Mafizur Rahman Munna, Monjurul Islam (the opening bowler), Safiuddin Babu, etc etc. Sure, he'd thrown down a couple of bouncers at 125 kph to Inzy, and had bowled a few maidens, but at 5'6", he hardly extracts any bounce beyond those occassional bouncers, and let's not even talk about carry through to the keeper. To add to that, he's actually supposed to be worse than what he used to be back then. My verdict - easy pickings for the Sri Lankan batsmen in the second test.

After having followed Bangladesh cricket for a while, you know a mediocre player when you see one. I hope he proves me wrong.

Omio
July 2, 2007, 02:51 PM
I think his pace is so innocent for the test match.

AsifTheManRahman
July 2, 2007, 02:53 PM
sharif can bat a lil..bit...soo...that prolly gave him the thumbs up...

dude, even our best batsman can't negotiate with murali, so we really shouldn't rely on a medium pacer and his ability to bat a little bit to save our faces. if the real batsmen don't get it right, there's no point in trying to get to 160/10 from 80/7. either way we lose, and lose big.

sandpiper
July 2, 2007, 02:58 PM
spot on
dude, even our best batsman can't negotiate with murali, so we really shouldn't rely on a medium pacer and his ability to bat a little bit to save our faces. if the real batsmen don't get it right, there's no point in trying to get to 160/10 from 80/7. either way we lose, and lose big.

tiger_omar
July 2, 2007, 03:05 PM
I don't mind the selection of Sharif over Rasel. Rasel did not trouble the Indian batsman too much in his last test against India, I think he had a good stint bowling agaisnt Wasim Jaffer but that was about it. He didn't really threaten to take wickets in that test and the Indians played him with relative ease.

Also Sharif did get Karthik caught behind but it wasn't given by the "Chor" Darell Harper. Sharif also has a bit of reverse swing with the old ball with which he may be able to surprise a few batsman. Also as mentioned he bats better than Rasel and that could be very valuable to build a decent partnership at the end of the innigs if he stays in the crease for a while.

All in all, I don't think it was a horrible move to put Sharif on the team and I hope the decision will pay off.

Slysaint
July 2, 2007, 03:07 PM
gigesh kora uchit, sarif koto taka gush disey ...noiley taar mai baap kada dekhtey hobey

tonoy
July 2, 2007, 03:19 PM
oh come on it wasnt that bad of a decision. its like choosing paris hilton over nicole richie. Both are idiots but hey you gotta choose one(this case paris, cause of the ;)). same application goes to this, pretty much the same when it comes to wicket taking ability in test, so you gotta choose one blindly.

sadat_04
July 2, 2007, 03:27 PM
Our coach clearly said he was picked because of is ability to bat better than rasel and the reverse swing factor with the old ball...I personally think rasel is a better bowler than Sharif with the new ball..since we have both our openers healthy...sharif gets the pick because of his reverse switch ability ( we will soon find out)...the logic used by the coach/mgmt makes sense but whether he is capable of all those..is another story...

One World
July 2, 2007, 03:34 PM
Sharif was a genuine pacer allrounder few years back, now what is left is debris, the crust of his bowling has lost all tooth.

Nafi
July 2, 2007, 03:35 PM
Syed Rasel has a horrible record with SL. Also maybe they chose Sharif to create a variation of bounce.

mali007
July 2, 2007, 03:45 PM
For those who think Tamim and Aftab is fit for ODI's --------------- same for Rasel, he is for shorter version, not for TEST. In ODI power play his ball is effective.

MarufH
July 2, 2007, 05:13 PM
I think the fact is Sharif did pretty good in practice match... that gave him a little advantage.. thats all...

Foozy
July 2, 2007, 05:47 PM
dude, even our best batsman can't negotiate with murali, so we really shouldn't rely on a medium pacer and his ability to bat a little bit to save our faces. if the real batsmen don't get it right, there's no point in trying to get to 160/10 from 80/7. either way we lose, and lose big.

absolutely!!... i agree 100% with that... there is no way that he wil b able to keep up to it... so it would hav been better if rassel would b in... coz he does hav some potential...
as for sharif... ive heard a lot... but im yet to see ANY good signs in his bowling whatsoever... and doin good in first clas as we all know dosent mean jack ****... so ya

lets all hope that we are proven wrong in this match...

Antora
July 2, 2007, 07:44 PM
gigesh kora uchit, sarif koto taka gush disey ...noiley taar mai baap kada dekhtey hobey

bhaiya i dont think people will be takeing or even give gush in bangladesh anymore...they are scared of the care taker gov!!! any way
i wish rasel had been chosen... just goes to show that BCB has no brainz (once again)

Zaheed Mahmood
July 2, 2007, 08:19 PM
Three things, Sharif can do a bit of batting, he can do a swinging bit with the old ball and he bowled a little better in the practice match, were crucial in drafting him in the final selection. It's now only a matter of days to see whether the decision was justified, however, we need to understand that we are not a team which would change overnight to a formidable one just by changing 2 or 3 players who all seem to be of more or less the same potential, the selection committee makes efforts only to put forth the available best combination which I don't think eventually bolster or weaken the team by a great extent!
Zaheed

BD Tigers
July 2, 2007, 08:36 PM
I dont think Rasel is test material. He can be very good w/ a new ball but when u have Mash and Shahadat openning, then he's not going to get the new ball or wud he? Anyway, he cant do dang thing w/ the old ball. Now saying that Sharif is not that good either but he's ability to bat better get him in the team.

Pundit
July 2, 2007, 08:46 PM
I thought ImtiazK was the man with BCB insider connection?

One simple reason why Rasel was left out - there is room for only 11 players.

I don't feel good with Sharif. But I am not willing to grey my hair over this irrelevant debate.

We need the next Talha to grow up fast.

al Furqaan
July 2, 2007, 09:16 PM
sharif can bat a lil..bit...soo...that prolly gave him the thumbs up...

i dont think sharif can bat at test level...they took him cuz he might have a yard of pace on rasel, and supposedly he can get the ball to reverse...

until sharif fails without doubt, rasel wont get another shot...too bad tho, cuz i think hes not bad as 3rd pacer.

Electrequiem
July 2, 2007, 09:19 PM
i don't like this decision at all...Rasel should have been picked over Sharif. But then the selectors always know what's best.

Best of luck to Sharif ... he needs to inflict some serious damage to the SL batting line up.

PoorFan
July 2, 2007, 09:19 PM
'Jahai lau tahai kodu', doesn't make much different really. Yet selectors might chosen Sharif's batting ability, cant blame them given our poor batting performance. <!--StartFragment -->Desperate selection I must say.

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al Furqaan
July 2, 2007, 09:20 PM
I guess it's because of Rasel's limitations with the old ball and Sharif's supposed ability to do wonders with it, something that I'm yet to witness.

When I'd seen Sharif bowl six/seven years ago, I didn't find much to say about him. There'd been a lot of fuss about him and how he could "reverse swing" the ball, but how can you ever do that if you're not bowling around 90 mph is beyond me. Besides, if he'd shown promise, so had Mafizur Rahman Munna, Monjurul Islam (the opening bowler), Safiuddin Babu, etc etc. Sure, he'd thrown down a couple of bouncers at 125 kph to Inzy, and had bowled a few maidens, but at 5'6", he hardly extracts any bounce beyond those occassional bouncers, and let's not even talk about carry through to the keeper. To add to that, he's actually supposed to be worse than what he used to be back then. My verdict - easy pickings for the Sri Lankan batsmen in the second test.

After having followed Bangladesh cricket for a while, you know a mediocre player when you see one. I hope he proves me wrong.

according to CI cricinfo, vaas can get some reverse swing too...and indian batsmen like munaf etc do it. mash and rajib got it...reverse can be done at a mere 80 mph...

malinga got it to reverse and he rarely got beyond 84 mph in T1

Protic
July 2, 2007, 09:37 PM
Probably they are opting for the reverse swing sharif gets in the middle overs ( after 40 probably ) .. But still Rasel would have been a better choice !

Zaheed Mahmood
July 2, 2007, 10:12 PM
Reverse swing gave the Asian bowlers an incisive stronghold (Paki being the pioneer) in the bowling dept of cricket-world over the physically stronger pacer of AUS/WI/NZ/ENG teams, not only that, the Asian bowlers try to swing the ball more in the transverse direction while the others put their forces in the pace. Sometimes transverse swinging with a bit less speed proves deadlier than a speedier one with less swinging!

Sohel
July 2, 2007, 10:27 PM
Sharif lobbies closer to Faruikka and Ata's alleged minds ... honestly, I don't think Rasel would've made any difference at all. I'd have opted for Dollar Mahmud or Talha Jubair instead of these two for the test side. Rasel, being a good "containment" bowler, should continue to be an option for the ODI side.

Imtiazk
July 13, 2007, 07:10 AM
At least, Rasel has proved one thing: however, "slow" you are, line and length does matter - in the long run you will get wickets at a reasonable cost. Pity, the selectors think otherwise.

Ehsan
July 13, 2007, 08:14 AM
Our all time best pace bowlers are: Mashrafe, Shahadat, Tapash and Rasel. As of now we should only and only keep these 4 in mind when selecting pacers until we unearth someone better than them in terms of pace, swing, line and length.

Dhruvo
July 13, 2007, 08:42 AM
sharif can bat a lil..bit...soo...that prolly gave him the thumbs up...
He can only bat well against A teams not against internatinal teams.

Dhruvo
July 13, 2007, 08:43 AM
Hey where Is Tapash did not see him bowl for a long time.

mali007
July 13, 2007, 09:19 AM
At least, Rasel has proved one thing: however, "slow" you are, line and length does matter - in the long run you will get wickets at a reasonable cost. Pity, the selectors think otherwise.
I am sorry that I supported Sharif in place of Rasel. Very impressive performance so far for Rasel.

Omio
July 13, 2007, 10:15 AM
He is impressive only with new ball, but this is not odi, after a while ball is getting old, and most of the time he will be useless.

Tigers_eye
July 13, 2007, 10:26 AM
He is impressive only with new ball, but this is not odi, after a while ball is getting old, and most of the time he will be useless.
And who is impressive with the old ball? Sharif? Rafique? Razzak? Enam Jr.? Mash? Shahadat? I didn't see them bother the SL batting lineup in any of the innings. They all are more useless than Rasel. The econ rate speaks for itself. 428 runs in a day conceded could up there in the records category.

Why can't we use him properly? 80 overs, 4 bowlers to bowl. 20 overs per person. With Mash, Rafique and Shahadat can we assume they would take the heavy load? Giving Rasel 15 overs in two spell would be managing him perfectly. then he gets another two spell when the new ball is taken. He don't have to bowl with the old ball.

Do we have any game plan for any tests?

WarWolf
July 13, 2007, 10:29 AM
He is impressive only with new ball, but this is not odi, after a while ball is getting old, and most of the time he will be useless.
Atleast he can take early wickets. I think Rajib and Mashrafee are useless with old ball also.

FaridpurChicago
July 13, 2007, 10:30 AM
He is impressive only with new ball, but this is not odi, after a while ball is getting old, and most of the time he will be useless.

Who is impressive dude?

Accuracy matters more than pace. McGrath is one of all time greats and definitely better than Shoaib Akhter. Even Asif is better than Shoaib Akhtar with lesser pace. We blame Rasel for not having pace just because of our lack of knowledge. Vaas has the same pace like Rasel and no one complains about that.

If Rasel were not there, They might have gone wicket less 500 in their third test.

Rifat
July 13, 2007, 10:52 AM
Rasel is a great bowler... remember april 7th, 2007 super eights match against south africa... yeah, i would pick Rasel for any match test, odi, 20-20, after i see him bowl in the South Africa match, he is quite an intelligent bowler.

however, why did we bother to pick sharif when in our domestic league we should have searched and tried out our best pace bowler of the season, like Mohammad Shahzada, or Alamgir Kabir or i don't know name someone else... like asiqur rahman, or rezaul haque.

rah
July 13, 2007, 11:16 AM
rasel der if nufifnk wrong wit his pace he bowls roughly as da same pace as vaas