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Slysaint
July 2, 2007, 03:02 PM
I am not sure if i am posting in the right forum, if i am not my apologies, and mod kindly move it to the proper forum

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after reading a lot of threads here, i have come to know height of a person is crucial for success, infact even on tv a lot of comentators talk about the height of bangladesh batsmen as they arent that tall, after further study i found out that height is over rated, infact most of the greats in cricket arent that tall at all

Bradman :- 5'7
Sunil gavaskar 5'5 (i have seen him and he is no way 5'5, if he is 5'5 i am atleast 6'3 i towered him, where as i am just barely over 6 and he barely reached my chest)
Brian Lara :- 5'8
tendulkar :- 5.05 ft (once again no way)

all height figures i got from cricinfo

sandpiper
July 2, 2007, 03:05 PM
I never thought height is a significant factor

Nafi
July 2, 2007, 03:10 PM
Height comes into play by producing a litt bounce on the pitch, but is not needed Malinga, Fidel Edwards, Vaas are all good bowlers and can produce enough bounce, despite them being around 5' 8

He are the heights of our bowlers,

Shahadat Hossain 6' 4
Mashrafee Mortaza 6' 2
Abdur Razzak 6'
Md. Sharif 5' 6
Md. Rafique 5' 8
Syed Rasel 6' 1/2
Saqib 5' 11
Enamul Haque (not sure I think 5' 10)

So really where height has a slight advantage, most of our bowlers have that height.

Tigers_eye
July 2, 2007, 03:10 PM
For the bowlers, in many cases height is an advantage. For batsman like Bradman, and Gavaskar would have a difficult time than they faced in their time. They would still dominate though. Nowadays, batsman like Haydous, Gilchrist, Symond puts fear on opponent bowling because of their size. The tree trunk like thighs and arms should be enough to push the panic button (SA, #2 team in the World, does that all the time).

Slysaint
July 2, 2007, 03:10 PM
I never thought that as a significant factor
a lot of ppl do, infact if i remember correctly another not so tall infact shorty tv commentator Sanjay Manjrekar, said exactly that "bangladesh batsmen arent that tall" when sakib got out i think against south africa

Slysaint
July 2, 2007, 03:15 PM
Height comes into play by producing a litt bounce on the pitch, but is not needed Malinga, Fidel Edwards, Vaas are all good bowlers and can produce enough bounce, despite them being around 5' 8

He are the heights of our bowlers,

Shahadat Hossain 6' 4
Mashrafee Mortaza 6' 2
Abdur Razzak 6'
Md. Sharif 5' 6
Md. Rafique 5' 8
Syed Rasel 6' 1/2
Saqib 5' 11
Enamul Haque (not sure I think 5' 10)

So really where height has a slight advantage, most of our bowlers have that height.

forgive me but i am quite certain sakib is not 5'11 infact he would be hard pressed to reach double figures after 5 feet. even tv comentators said such ..

and like you said .. there are a lot of short bowlers who are generating a lot of bounce and pace even though they are short

Nafi
July 2, 2007, 03:15 PM
a lot of ppl do, infact if i remember correctly another not so tall infact shorty tv commentator Sanjay Manjrekar, said exactly that "bangladesh batsmen arent that tall" when sakib got out i think against south africa

Sanjay is very annoying, he was making a big deal of how 'aftab is such a small man, who 5' 2 at the most', when infact he is 5' 5. And he belittles ashraful by saying 'well here is the small man'.

Sanjay would never dare say that to Tendy.

Nafi
July 2, 2007, 03:19 PM
forgive me but i am quite certain sakib is not 5'11 infact he would be hard pressed to reach double figures after 5 feet. even tv comentators said such ..

Oh here we go again, Saqib is infact tall, he never stands up straight properly, trust me Ive seen him in person.

he always slouches a lot even when you're talking to him

Even when he slouched you can see that he is tall

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/75300/75338.jpg

sandpiper
July 2, 2007, 03:20 PM
exactly, I got confused hearing his comment on aftabs height :-/

in fact, I dont care about subcontinental commentators
Sanjay is very annoying, he was making a big deal of how 'aftab is such a small man, who 5' 2 at the most', when infact he is 5' 5. And he belittles ashraful by saying 'well here is the small man'.

Sanjay would never dare say that to Tendy.

tiger_omar
July 2, 2007, 03:21 PM
For the fast bowlers the height matters quite a bit to trouble batsman with high sharp bouncers.

Even for the batsman, height helps to play those high rising deliveries as for shorter players those balls are close to their neck and they have to reach up high to play shots on those balls, while the taller players get those same balls close to their chest, which they can play more freely and belt out of the ground as shown by Hayden and co. in the world cup.

Slysaint
July 2, 2007, 03:22 PM
Oh here we go again, Saqib is infact tall, he never stands up straight properly, trust me Ive seen him in person.

he always slouches a lot even when you're talking to him

Even when he slouched you can see that he is tall

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/75300/75338.jpg

dont get me wrong, i have seen dav, he is short and pudgy, sakib too, if he is 5'11 i shouldnt be able to tower him, which i easily did and i am not that tall

tonoy
July 2, 2007, 03:24 PM
dude Saqib is fricken tall man. He is almost 6. just look at the fricken pic for christ's sake!!!!!!!!!

Kabir
July 2, 2007, 03:25 PM
What's Dav's height? Sakib is 2/3 inches taller than Dav.

And as for Sanjay and all those junk commentators go, let them make their day's bread through bs. Those people are only worth 2 cents, and that's why they're there in every match played by you know who.

Slysaint
July 2, 2007, 03:25 PM
exactly, I got confused hearing his comment on aftabs height :-/

in fact, I dont care about subcontinental commentators

well shiva rama is quite good .. he is fair and often speaks positively about bangladesh. but you are right most of them are as moronic as rameez raja's hair (someone should tell that man, 80's passed us by a long time ago and its womanly to be fixated with hair)

Nafi
July 2, 2007, 03:27 PM
Now you're calling dav short? He is average height of man from a MEDC which is 5' 9

tonoy
July 2, 2007, 03:27 PM
dont get me wrong, i have seen dav, he is short and pudgy, sakib too, if he is 5'11 i shouldnt be able to tower him, which i easily did and i am not that tall

bull crap. saqib is 5 11 for sure.

Slysaint
July 2, 2007, 03:28 PM
dude Saqib is fricken tall man. He is almost 6. just look at the fricken pic for christ's sake!!!!!!!!!

pics can be decieving, i should know photography is a hobby of mine.

if u dont believe me, check south africa and bangladesh game, u will see what the comentators said about sakibs height ..

but my point is height is not a factor, great modern day bowlers arent tall, and most all time great bastmen arent tall either ..

tiger_omar
July 2, 2007, 03:29 PM
Wow, Sakib looks pretty tall in that pic. But I wonder how tall Whatmore is so we can compare his height with Saqib.

Nafi
July 2, 2007, 03:32 PM
Wow, Sakib looks pretty tall in that pic. But I wonder how tall Whatmore is so we can compare his height with Saqib.

Dav is typical 5' 9

if u dont believe me, check south africa and bangladesh game, u will see what the comentators said about sakibs height ..

They didnt say anything about sakib's height, I watched every ball of that match

Slysaint
July 2, 2007, 03:33 PM
Wow, Sakib looks pretty tall in that pic. But I wonder how tall Whatmore is so we can compare his height with Saqib.

probably 5'6 or 5'7, when i saw him, he was the same height as a cousin of mine

Slysaint
July 2, 2007, 03:34 PM
They didnt say anything about sakib's height, I watched every ball of that match

i saw the match again yesterday, hence i am 100% sure that was said

Kabir
July 2, 2007, 03:45 PM
Tamim's 5' 11" if I'm not wrong. Sakib is similar height as Tamim.

Padosan
July 2, 2007, 03:49 PM
Coming to the point of discussion, height is no big deal for a batsman where as for fast bowlers, height definitely is an advantage. Well if we do take the majority case sitns(leave the exceptions), the successful fast bowlers are tall and good batsmen are not so tall.

Sanjay is very annoying, he was making a big deal of how 'aftab is such a small man, who 5' 2 at the most', when infact he is 5' 5. And he belittles ashraful by saying 'well here is the small man'.

Sanjay would never dare say that to Tendy.

Well Tendu is called the 'little' master, doesn't mean he is not a great master, just a 'little' master :). Take things in perspective, i am sure he wasnt demeaning Ash or Aftab.

cheers !
Padosan

Dhakablues
July 2, 2007, 03:49 PM
Well,, Height doesnt matter much if u have the skills and Tendulkar/Gavaskar/Marshall/Ricky Pointing/ proved that already. For Saqib's height, he is much taller than what S. Manjrekar thought. He thought of Mushfiq/Tamim/Ashraful/Aftab like players and ignored the taller ones of Mashrafee/Shahadat/Rasel/Sakib/etc. Saqib is 5-10 or 5-11 ish. Just watch the WC games and you will see him when he stands against Dhoni/Other South African players.... nevertheless, thinking of him being 5'6'' makes Gagaskar 4'5''...

Nafi
July 2, 2007, 03:55 PM
Well,, Height doesnt matter much if u have the skills and Tendulkar/Gavaskar/Marshall/Ricky Pointing/ proved that already. For Saqib's height, he is much taller than what S. Manjrekar thought. He thought of Mushfiq/Tamim/Ashraful/Aftab like players and ignored the taller ones of Mashrafee/Shahadat/Rasel/Sakib/etc. Saqib is 5-10 or 5-11 ish. Just watch the WC games and you will see him when he stands against Dhoni/Other South African players.... nevertheless, thinking of him being 5'6'' makes Gagaskar 4'5''...

Ricky ponting is not short, he only looks short because australian cricket are all quite tall. Ricky Ponting is 5'10, which is funnily enough the same as Rahul Dravid, you'd never have guessed that huh

PS Tamim is 5ft 10-11 ish

israr
July 2, 2007, 03:55 PM
I want to be two more inches taller to reach 6ft.:sigh:
Hope I still do have some chance:( !

tonoy
July 2, 2007, 04:19 PM
I want to be two more inches taller to reach 6ft.:sigh:
Hope I still do have some chance:( !

feel for you man. same here. Am doing yoga and drinking milk and getting those vitamin pills and im 19 hopefully my body has enough to reach the magical footmark.

sandpiper
July 2, 2007, 04:24 PM
guess whats the height of sakib ?:-/

http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73890609.jpg
http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73890575.jpg
http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73858837.jpg
http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73836163.jpg
http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73835872.jpg

Baundule
July 2, 2007, 04:32 PM
Sharif is over 6 ft. (6.05ft)

israr
July 2, 2007, 04:33 PM
feel for you man. same here. Am doing yoga and drinking milk and getting those vitamin pills and im 19 hopefully my body has enough to reach the magical footmark.

I have been swimmimg and drinking milk like hell!:-| I just hope it shows some effect!

Nafi
July 2, 2007, 04:34 PM
Sharif is over 6 ft. (6.05ft)

No thats a mistake from cric info, he is actually 5ft 6

Ish
July 2, 2007, 05:26 PM
Sort of ironic that most everyone seems to agree with the theme of this thread that height is no big deal, but then the rest of the posts are debating how tall the players actually are. :)

Orion
July 2, 2007, 06:23 PM
I have been swimmimg and drinking milk like hell!:-| I just hope it shows some effect!

I am 5'11 and turning 19 within a few days...hopefully I will also reach the 6ft mark:E

Hatebreed
July 2, 2007, 07:29 PM
A handful of legends from countries and eras doesn't mean height or bouncers were necessarily their obstacle, but it didn't affect them and therefore it doesn't matter. Clearly they used their talent to the full extent, but height is always helpful. Also I wouldn't call 5'8 short, not everyone is 6 feet tall. It just doesn't compare to the shorty Tendulkar is.

Our short batsmen clearly struggle to reach a lot of bouncers, but we've seen players like Ashraful pull the best bowlers out of the park. He is also dubbed our most talented batsmen, so it's not so much to do with height or strictly ability, but the really gifted players find a way around it. Not all players are like that, and it doesn't help when you are short too.

Antora
July 2, 2007, 07:33 PM
height is not a factor.. i mean if ur tall it always comes in handy.. but lest remember that all the greatest batsmens in the world are short!!!

Buddhika_s
July 2, 2007, 07:35 PM
why do u guys talk a lot about players' height? who's the tallest guy in bangla team? and how tall?

al Furqaan
July 2, 2007, 07:40 PM
why do u guys talk a lot about players' height? who's the tallest guy in bangla team? and how tall?

we don't usually...i dunno why this thread came up.

but teh answer to ur question is shahadat who is 6 feet 3 inches tall.

Tigers_eye
July 2, 2007, 11:09 PM
Sly,
Please visit WC forum to see who is how tall. Our own Tehsin bhai, Billah bhai and may others visited them talked to them. There are lots of pictures and videos. You will know from there Sakib is 5'10" +.

Rabz
July 3, 2007, 05:45 AM
What are you gonna do with heights my friend??
What we need is heart, and sadly, we got that of a chicken.
And they call themselves Tigers!!

Slysaint
July 3, 2007, 07:17 AM
Sly,
Please visit WC forum to see who is how tall. Our own Tehsin bhai, Billah bhai and may others visited them talked to them. There are lots of pictures and videos. You will know from there Sakib is 5'10" +.


well in that case damn i am very very very tall, when i met him, i towered him ..

Haider
July 3, 2007, 08:07 AM
feel for you man. same here. Am doing yoga and drinking milk and getting those vitamin pills and im 19 hopefully my body has enough to reach the magical footmark.

LOL no chance .. Sorry to break ur bubbles. Bro i am 5'10 since I was freaking 17.. and my dad is 6'0 my uncles are over 6'2.. I thought ..maybe if i stretched and play Basketball.. maybe i can make it.. But once u stop growing.. like around 17, 18.. that is it.. U don't grow nomore.. LOL... Specialy if u smoke.. then u definetely not growing....:D By the way I just 24 yesterday.. I haven't gained an inch LOL

Haider
July 3, 2007, 08:18 AM
guess whats the height of sakib ?:-/

http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73890609.jpg
http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73890575.jpg
http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73858837.jpg
http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73836163.jpg
http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/seagull_2007/?action=view&current=73835872.jpg

If you check the last picture.. u will see Saqib is standing straight. He is nothing more than 5'6 to 5'7. End of story. By the way who was the shortest player to ever play cricket? or for that matter any sports? I think our Mushy can very well be the one.. he looks like 4'10 to 4'11... Correct me if i am wrong. And if he is over 18.. then he ain't growing nomore. :wave:

Ehsan
July 3, 2007, 08:23 AM
Don't count on the pictures. Shakib is same height as Tamim which is around 5'10-5'11.

Anyways, on the thread topic, as many has said height is really not a factor for batsmen but it is useful for bowlers specially fast bowlers to generate good bounce. Infact, height is even useful for spin bowlers to generate bounce - Enamul Jnr and Razzak are good example of it.

Haider
July 3, 2007, 08:41 AM
Don't count on the pictures. Shakib is same height as Tamim which is around 5'10-5'11.

Actualy to tell u the truth.. with Bangali players.. u don't know what the truth is .. We not even sure their correct ages. They lie bout heights everywhere, not only BD.. Check America for instance.. Nate Robinson(knicks)<--this guy dunks... despite being 5'7 inch tall.. But he reported his height as 5'9.. which everyone knows is not true. Allen Iverson 5'10(frm 76ers now Nuggets) he claims to be 6'ft. So.. I am pretty sure all our BD players exeggerated a lit bit bout their heights too..

Ehsan
July 3, 2007, 08:50 AM
There is no claming game in players height in BD cricket. They are all measured. Further, the age thing has been fixed for quite a while as far I am informed.

But yea to your point, few members in this thread could be exaggerating. ;)

Tigers_eye
July 3, 2007, 09:21 AM
Actualy to tell u the truth.. with Bangali players.. u don't know what the truth is .. We not even sure their correct ages. They lie bout heights everywhere, not only BD.. Check America for instance.. Nate Robinson(knicks)<--this guy dunks... despite being 5'7 inch tall.. But he reported his height as 5'9.. which everyone knows is not true. Allen Iverson 5'10(frm 76ers now Nuggets) he claims to be 6'ft. So.. I am pretty sure all our BD players exeggerated a lit bit bout their heights too..
The comparison is not fair. Have you ever done a physical? Here Doctors measure with your snickers on. That makes the 5'11" iverson as 6'1". And nate to his disclosed height. They are not like boxers who are striped naked (almost) and weighted and height measured. Why would you not believe those who have met them just recently and shook hands?

By the way, Sharif's height is a mistake at Cricinfo. We had another Sharif who was 6 ft. Just a mixup.

Sly,
I haven't seen you so who knows how tall you are. May be when you have met Sakib he was in his barontho age. However, I would take the word for Billah bhai and others any day who just met them few months back.

Dhakablues
July 3, 2007, 10:15 AM
Ricky ponting is not short, he only looks short because australian cricket are all quite tall. Ricky Ponting is 5'10, which is funnily enough the same as Rahul Dravid, you'd never have guessed that huh

PS Tamim is 5ft 10-11 ish

Ricky is actually 5,8".

istiak
July 3, 2007, 10:43 AM
In bowling hight may be a factor......but still looking at Vaas or Malcom Marshall (the legend) i am not sure.

In case of batting, i rather say shorter the better. More balance and better eye-hand combination. Do i need to give any example? Bradman to Tendulkar; Rohan Kanhai to Ricy Ponting or Boycott to Arbind de Silva and last but not least Brian Lara. Need more?