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fwullah
October 11, 2003, 03:37 AM
I've been watching Australia vs Zimbabwe matches. And a thought had occured to me and I have found out the following things, which leads me to the conclusion that against us, ZIMBABWE WILL NOT MISS ANDY FLOWER much.

There are still other quite good players like Grant Flower - who will possibly recover by February, Craig Whisart, Heath Streak to play for Zimbabwe against Bangladesh.

So I am looking at it from Zimbabwe's point of view:

Test Cricket:

Blignaut 5 wickets, 3 wickets,

Heath Streak 2 wickets, 3 wickets, 67 runs, 3 wickets, 2 wickets, 87 runs, 2 wickets, 65 runs

Grant Flower 68 runs, 84 runs, 10 runs, 4 wickets, 4 wickets

Nkala 47 runs

Price 4 wickets, 3 wickets

Watambwa 4 wickets

Alistair Campbell 73 runs

Friend 5 wickets, 81 runs

Craig Whishart 94 runs, 114 runs

Marillier 73 runs, 52 runs, 4 wickets

Gripper 112 runs

The following players in Test Cricket will not play for Zimbabwe:

Guy Whittall 119 runs, 59 runs

Andy Flower 73 runs, 23 runs, 28 runs, 114* runs

Murphy 30 runs

Olonga 3 wickets

ODI cricket:

Dion Ebrahim 121(140), 84(130)

Stuart Carlisle 40(65), 56(73), 42(34), 46(99), 44(59), 55*(92)

Alistair Campbell 103(145)

Grant Flower 142(128), 40(45)

Craig Whishart 79*(91), 68(60)

The following players will not play for Zimbabwe:

Andy Flower 40 (63), 81(91), 6(10), 10(9), 15(29)

Guy Whittall 26(68)

In all the innings above, Andy Flower has played only one match-winning score of 81 off 91 balls and that's it. Others have played a major role in winning, as well as others had more contribution in winning.

So from Bangladesh's point of view, things will have to improve - much better unless we are going to face the same side minus one big name Andy Flower.

Tehsin
October 11, 2003, 03:41 AM
aren't you forgetting something ?

Hasib
October 11, 2003, 03:43 AM
Yeah but this is a new look Bangladesh side... allaher Rahmatha

fwullah
October 11, 2003, 05:42 AM
This Bangladesh side is currently going through a good form - so was that Bangladesh side (which faced Zimbabwe) in the year 2001 - right after the highest 400 Test score against India.

Hasib
October 11, 2003, 08:04 AM
But they never looked like winning. The current team got 250+ in 5 of the last 8 innings.(Allaher Rahmatha) This team also got a first innings lead.(Allaher Rahmatha)

BangladeshCricket
October 11, 2003, 09:46 AM
I think Zimb still better team cuz of their test playing experience i guess more than a decade. But We probably same strength like Kenya now.

fwullah
October 11, 2003, 11:22 AM
I guess we will know better in this England tour - especially during the one day series - when the best England players will be playing - Flintoff, Anderson.

Knowing our limitation in one day matches upto now (so far only 3 players Hannan, Rajin and Alok has scored only against Pakistan - they will have to do the same and BETTER against England), we need a much improved performance than in the last 5 innings.

Don't forget, the current Zimbabwe team had beaten England team only this year - in an ODI just recently.

fwullah
October 11, 2003, 11:28 AM
Points Table

Match 9/9 Played Won Lost No
Result Tied Bonus
Points Points NRR For Against
South Africa 6 4 2 - - 2 23 +0.480 1310/267.1 1260/284.5
England 6 3 2 1 - 2 22 +0.825 973/202.4 976/245.3
Zimbabwe 6 1 4 1 - - 9 -1.370 860/248 907/187.3

fwullah
October 11, 2003, 11:39 AM
ODI # 2028
NatWest Series, 2003, 1st Match
England v Zimbabwe
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
26 June 2003 (50-over match)

Result: Zimbabwe won by 4 wickets
Points: Zimbabwe 5, England 1

Toss: Zimbabwe
Umpires: SJA Taufel (Aus) and P Willey
TV Umpire: NA Mallender
Match Referee: CH Lloyd (WI)
ODI Debuts: RWT Key, RL Johnson (Eng).
Man of the Match: GW Flower


England innings (50 overs maximum) R M B 4 6
ME Trescothick c Flower b Streak 38 49 38 8 0
VS Solanki c Ebrahim b Streak 1 9 3 0 0
*MP Vaughan c Taibu b Ervine 13 35 22 2 0
RWT Key b Price 11 57 37 0 0
A Flintoff c Blignaut b Marillier 53 103 89 6 0
A McGrath run out (Friend/Taibu) 14 35 42 1 0
R Clarke b Blignaut 23 47 39 1 0
+CMW Read c Brent b Blignaut 23 31 32 1 0
RL Johnson not out 0 3 0 0 0
AF Giles not out 1 1 1 0 0
Extras (b 2, lb 2, w 7, nb 3) 14
Total (8 wickets, 50 overs, 189 mins) 191

DNB: D Gough.

FoW: 1-9 (Solanki, 2.1 ov), 2-56 (Vaughan, 9.6 ov),
3-57 (Trescothick, 10.3 ov), 4-104 (Key, 23.6 ov),
5-134 (McGrath, 36.2 ov), 6-144 (Flintoff, 40.2 ov),
7-190 (Read, 49.4 ov), 8-190 (Clarke, 49.5 ov).

Bowling O M R W
Streak 9 1 30 2 (3w)
Blignaut 8 0 53 2 (2nb, 2w)
Ervine 8 1 26 1 (1nb)
Friend 1 0 14 0 (1w)
Price 10 2 20 1
Marillier 10 0 30 1
Flower 4 0 14 0 (1w)

Zimbabwe innings (target: 192 runs from 50 overs) R M B 4 6
DA Marillier c Clarke b Gough 0 11 5 0 0
DD Ebrahim c Flintoff b Johnson 1 4 7 0 0
TJ Friend c Clarke b Gough 5 15 15 1 0
GW Flower not out 96 175 152 10 0
+T Taibu c Solanki b Johnson 4 17 9 1 0
S Matsikenyeri c Clarke b Johnson 44 82 55 3 1
*HH Streak run out (Vaughan) 7 32 21 0 0
SM Ervine not out 26 31 25 2 0
Extras (lb 1, w 10, nb 1) 12
Total (6 wickets, 48 overs, 187 mins) 195

DNB: AM Blignaut, GB Brent, RW Price.

FoW: 1-2 (Ebrahim, 1.2 ov), 2-3 (Marillier, 2.4 ov),
3-8 (Friend, 4.5 ov), 4-15 (Taibu, 9.2 ov),
5-111 (Matsikenyeri, 31.6 ov), 6-143 (Streak, 40.1 ov).

Bowling O M R W
Gough 10 2 40 2 (1nb, 4w)
Johnson 10 1 32 3
Flintoff 10 2 24 0 (1w)
Clarke 3 0 13 0
Giles 9 0 50 0
McGrath 6 0 35 0 (1w)

Source: 1st Match: Natwast Series (http://www-aus.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2003/OD_TOURNEYS/NWS/SCORECARDS/ENG_ZIM_NWS_ODI1_26JUN2003.html)

Mahmood
October 11, 2003, 12:23 PM
I agree. Zimbabue still looks better than us, specially their batting.

I guess we might shoot for a draw. A drawn series will also be nice.