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MohammedC
July 19, 2007, 12:14 AM
http://images.skysports.com/images/badges/100x100/3067.gifEngland V India http://images.skysports.com/images/badges/100x100/1516.gif
Match scheduled to begin at 11:00 local time (10:00 GMT)

First Test at Lords London

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Father Time © MCC/CS



England squad:
http://img.cricinfo.com/engine-nav/captain.gifMP Vaughan (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/22182.html), JM Anderson (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/8608.html), IR Bell (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/9062.html), SCJ Broad (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/10617.html), PD Collingwood (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/10772.html), AN Cook (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/11728.html), MJ Hoggard (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/14236.html), MS Panesar (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/18655.html), KP Pietersen (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/19296.html), MJ Prior (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/18675.html), RJ Sidebottom (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/20187.html), AJ Strauss (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/20387.html), CT Tremlett (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/21650.html)

India squad:
http://img.cricinfo.com/engine-nav/captain.gifR Dravid (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/28114.html), SR Tendulkar (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/35320.html), RR Bose (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/27572.html), MS Dhoni (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/28081.html), G Gambhir (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/28763.html), SC Ganguly (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/28779.html), W Jaffer (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/29646.html),
KD Karthik (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/30045.html), Z Khan (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/30102.html), A Kumble (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/30176.html), VVS Laxman (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/30750.html), RR Powar (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/32391.html), RP Singh (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/35280.html), S Sreesanth (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/34274.html),
Yuvraj Singh (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/36084.html)

Scorecard (http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/engine/current/match/258468.html)

MohammedC
July 19, 2007, 12:17 AM
England v India - Test Stats at Lord's

Played 14, England 10, India 1, Drawn 3
Results:

1932: England won by 158 runs
1936: England won by 9 wickets
1946: England won by 10 wickets
1952: England won by 8 wickets
1959: England won by 8 wickets
1967: England won by an innings and 124 runs
1971: Match drawn
1974: England won by an innings and 285 runs
1979: Match drawn
1982: England won by 7 wickets
1986: India won by 5 wickets
1990: England won by 247 runs
1996: Match drawn
2002: England won by 170 runs.

Surfer
July 19, 2007, 02:25 AM
England has been very strong at Lord. This will be an interesting match.

Surfer
July 19, 2007, 02:27 AM
It was clear and sunny earlier today but low, leaden clouds have sneaked in and the Met Office forecast warns that scattered showers could feature later in the day. At least it will be warm, with temperatures around 23°C. Tomorrow is an altogether different story, 17°C and heavy rain with only a slight improvement on Saturday. Will this summer ever start?- cricinfo

FaRHaN
July 19, 2007, 02:37 AM
lol they just won only one match against england how can dey b strong at lords..u wer circastic right?

Surfer
July 19, 2007, 02:46 AM
lol they just won only one match against england how can dey b strong at lords..u wer circastic right?

lol....guess you read my post in a hurry.I said England has been strong at Lords...not India.:-D

Surfer
July 19, 2007, 04:25 AM
Both teams are now getting into this match with inexperienced bowling line-ups...barring ANil Kumble.

crikss
July 19, 2007, 04:27 AM
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FaRHaN
July 19, 2007, 04:52 AM
Both teams are now getting into this match with inexperienced bowling line-ups...barring ANil Kumble.

dat means it is going to be a high scoring match

MohammedC
July 19, 2007, 05:01 AM
England won the toss an elected to Bat

MohammedC
July 19, 2007, 05:15 AM
England: Strauss, Cook, Vaughan, Pietersen, Collingwood, Bell, Prior, Tremlett, Sidebottom, Panesar, Anderson
India: Jaffer, Karthik, Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Laxman, Dhoni, Kumble, Zaheer, RP Singh, Sresanth
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MohammedC
July 19, 2007, 05:18 AM
22/0 afte 3.4 overs. England trying to score as many runs as they can before they face Kumble. make that 26/0 after 4 over

forget the last line 40/0 after 5

Sohel
July 19, 2007, 05:30 AM
England: Strauss, Cook, Vaughan, Pietersen, Collingwood, Bell, Prior, Tremlett, Sidebottom, Panesar, Anderson
India: Jaffer, Karthik, Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Laxman, Dhoni, Kumble, Zaheer, RP Singh, Sresanth
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Great to see V.V.S back in the fold. Was kind of looking forward to RR Bose, the other Bengali's debut ...

Surfer
July 19, 2007, 05:42 AM
50/0 after 8.4 overs......India did a bad job in opening the bowling.

MohammedC
July 19, 2007, 05:45 AM
50/0 after 8.4 overs......India did a bad job in opening the bowling.

India did not had a choice, England won the toss and chhose to bat

MohammedC
July 19, 2007, 06:18 AM
Dadha gets the breakthrough 78/1. Cook gone LBW

sandpiper
July 19, 2007, 08:49 AM
Comfortable start for England

Tigers_eye
July 19, 2007, 09:15 AM
174/1
Vaughn is having trouble getting his 50. he is stuck at 48 and not offering shots just watching balls go by him. Strauss is on 71. A patient knock.

Ahg984
July 19, 2007, 09:18 AM
England v India - Test Stats at Lord's

Played 14, England 10, India 1, Drawn 3
Results:

1932: England won by 158 runs
1936: England won by 9 wickets
1946: England won by 10 wickets
1952: England won by 8 wickets
1959: England won by 8 wickets
1967: England won by an innings and 124 runs
1971: Match drawn
1974: England won by an innings and 285 runs
1979: Match drawn
1982: England won by 7 wickets
1986: India won by 5 wickets
1990: England won by 247 runs
1996: Match drawn
2002: England won by 170 runs.

wow that's depressing if you are an Indian fan.

Tigers_eye
July 19, 2007, 09:20 AM
finally he gets his 50. 178/1.
Vaughn 52
Strauss 71.

sandpiper
July 19, 2007, 09:20 AM
50 for Vaughan, way to go England :clap:

Ahg984
July 19, 2007, 09:20 AM
wow horrible performance from the Indian bowlers. Thank god I did not stay to watch the match.

Ahg984
July 19, 2007, 09:21 AM
Gooo England!

Tigers_eye
July 19, 2007, 09:23 AM
wow that's depressing if you are an Indian fan.
doesn't matter what happened in the past. England hasn't won at lords against India since 2003. England didn't look at the past records against Australia when they played them at home.

sandpiper
July 19, 2007, 09:24 AM
so, bottom line : India is Australia :floor:
doesn't matter what happened in the past. England hasn't won at lords against India since 2003. England didn't look at the past records against Australia when they played them at home.

Ahg984
July 19, 2007, 09:45 AM
riots in India after this performance? I hope they go after the BCCI rather than the players.

Ahg984
July 19, 2007, 09:58 AM
Indian bowling looking toothless on a world stage, this is embarassing. Can't they find 2-3 good wicket taking bowlers out of a country of 1 billion?

I still hope we (Ind) turn things around in the post tea session. Need atleast 2-3 wickets.

Dhruvo
July 19, 2007, 10:00 AM
India might not win this match.

Ahg984
July 19, 2007, 10:01 AM
It's a bit early to tell but yah it's slightly in favor of Eng. at the moment.

Tigers_eye
July 19, 2007, 10:03 AM
so, bottom line : India is Australia :floor:
I was trying to lift the Indian fans spirit only. They are not in a good position right now.

Tigers_eye
July 19, 2007, 10:06 AM
looks like England will be finishing around 280 or 290. Not bad at all for them.

tonoy
July 19, 2007, 10:06 AM
Man only if Bd couldve batted like this. What a sight.

Baundule
July 19, 2007, 10:17 AM
Indians are having a tough time there.

Sovik
July 19, 2007, 11:57 AM
feel bad for struss. lords is lucky ground for him

Tigers_eye
July 19, 2007, 11:59 AM
What India did to us is getting a payback with interest. Strauss unlucky not to have a century. KP in. Bad news for india, he is set now. Already faced 23 balls.

England 244/2

Sovik
July 19, 2007, 12:25 PM
stopped for bad light. wish flintoff was fit

Tigers_eye
July 19, 2007, 12:30 PM
start again. 12 over remaining. I don't think that many overs will be bowled. England just trying to finish off the day without any more damage.

Sovik
July 19, 2007, 01:13 PM
if india could get pietersen early, they will have the upper hand

Tigers_eye
July 19, 2007, 01:25 PM
well well. A good finish by the Indians. Collingwood wicket was big. However, with Bell and Prior a 400+ is on the cards.

Tigers_eye
July 19, 2007, 01:26 PM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=620 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Played at Lord's, London (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/ground/57129.html), on 19,20,21,22,23 July 2007 (5-day match)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=7>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD width=7>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD colSpan=2>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD width=28>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD width=28>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD width=28>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD width=21>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD width=21>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD width=42>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD colSpan=3>England 1st innings</TD><TD align=right>R</TD><TD align=right>M</TD><TD align=right>B</TD><TD align=right>4s</TD><TD align=right>6s</TD><TD align=right>SR</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right colSpan=2></TD><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" width=192>AJ Strauss (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/20387.html)</TD><TD width=246>c Dravid b Kumble</TD><TD align=right>96</TD><TD align=right>256</TD><TD align=right>186</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>51.61</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right colSpan=2></TD><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" width=192>AN Cook (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/11728.html)</TD><TD width=246>lbw b Ganguly</TD><TD align=right>36</TD><TD align=right>67</TD><TD align=right>39</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>92.30</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right colSpan=2>http://img.cricinfo.com/engine-nav/captain.gif</TD><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" width=192>MP Vaughan (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/22182.html)</TD><TD width=246>c http://img.cricinfo.com/engine-nav/keeper.gifDhoni b Singh</TD><TD align=right>79</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>201</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>39.30</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right colSpan=2></TD><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" width=192>KP Pietersen (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/19296.html)</TD><TD width=246>not out</TD><TD align=right>34</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>51</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>66.66</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right colSpan=2></TD><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" width=192>PD Collingwood (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/10772.html)</TD><TD width=246>lbw b Kumble</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right colSpan=2></TD><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" width=192>RJ Sidebottom (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/current/player/20187.html)</TD><TD width=246>not out</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=2></TD><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"> Extras</TD><TD>(b 9, lb 6, w 6, nb 2)</TD><TD align=right>23</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=4></TD><TD align=right bgColor=#000000>http://img.cricinfo.com/spacer.gif</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=2></TD><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap"> Total</TD><TD>(4 wickets; 80.3 overs)</TD><TD align=right>268</TD><TD align=middle colSpan=5>(3.32 runs per over)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Sovik
July 19, 2007, 03:22 PM
http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/77600/77685.jpg

dada is ecstatic

sandpiper
July 19, 2007, 03:34 PM
:umm:
dada is estatic

Nocturnal
July 19, 2007, 05:07 PM
well played Eng and at the end Ind too.
Stumps - Day 1
England 268/4 (80.3 ov)

rubel_18
July 20, 2007, 08:01 AM
Sidebottom OUT, Bowled by RP Singh
England 272-5

Ahg984
July 20, 2007, 08:50 AM
England 298 all out, what a turn around!

Surfer
July 20, 2007, 09:54 AM
Very good comeback by India. The same bowlers who looked worthless yesterday, bowled so good today. All in the mind. Their nerves settled and they did well.

Now India should try and take a good lead.

MohammedC
July 20, 2007, 10:14 AM
India lost 2 wickets already 36/2. Tendulkar in

Surfer
July 20, 2007, 10:25 AM
I didnt really expect the openers to give a big partnership. But Dravid's was a huge wicket. Lets see what Sachin does.

Tigers_eye
July 20, 2007, 10:46 AM
classic collapse by the English team. India don't look comfortable either. Good match, evenly poised now.

Ahg984
July 20, 2007, 11:25 AM
anyway to watch the match live on the internet? (without paying).

Surfer
July 20, 2007, 11:53 AM
Panesar is on. It will be interesting now.

Tigers_eye
July 20, 2007, 12:13 PM
anyway to watch the match live on the internet? (without paying).
Most of us are tired and pissed off from the last nights match. The pathetic performance by the tigers batsmen is making us question why even we follow cricket.

Sovik
July 20, 2007, 01:00 PM
its anybody's match. if only rain doesn't interfere

Sovik
July 20, 2007, 03:17 PM
http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/77700/77734.jpg

is this the picture of a cricket ground?

tonoy
July 20, 2007, 04:30 PM
good competition this game. even out i must say.

Sohel
July 20, 2007, 06:12 PM
Superb bowling from Indians ... totally unexpected. England bowling well despite the notable absence of Harmison, Hoggard and I dare say, Flintoff. Time for Dada and V.V.S to deliver the advantage.

Faisal
July 20, 2007, 06:54 PM
i think it will draw at the end. ummm weather doesnt look good either.

cricket_pagol
July 21, 2007, 12:20 AM
If weather permits a result, I think England will win

Yasin
July 21, 2007, 06:06 AM
Superb bowling from Indians ... totally unexpected. England bowling well despite the notable absence of Harmison, Hoggard and I dare say, Flintoff. Time for Dada and V.V.S to deliver the advantage.

Sidebottom bowled extremely well. It would be great to have a full strength English side taking on the Indians, but this set of bowlers arent doing too bad either. Would have loved to see Simon Jones bowling against them.

At this moment India in deep trouble at 175/7. Dada is gone for 34 and Dhoni just dismissed for a duck. VVS and the tail left.

Surfer
July 21, 2007, 08:04 AM
All of a sudden, I am developing a liking for English rain:D

Sovik
July 21, 2007, 08:10 AM
getting interesting. if only rain doesn't ruin the fun

tonoy
July 21, 2007, 09:27 AM
wow indians all out for 201. English bowlers are good at their territory but not at foreign places. In order for indians to dominate, they need quality pacers who emphasizes on speed and natural aggressiveness. ONly if pakistan and India can fuse teams...

rah
July 21, 2007, 10:05 AM
for live cricket click my signature and enjoy!!!!

bhai it ent workin were do i clik for da match i jus see highlights

crikss
July 21, 2007, 10:35 AM
Bhai i can see the match ..don't know whats wrong with u

abdulrahee
July 21, 2007, 12:00 PM
india will lose
zaheer will take five inshallah

MohammedC
July 21, 2007, 04:20 PM
Leading by 174 with wicket in hand, Only weather can save India. Unless they pull of a miracle like they did on the second day

Puck
July 21, 2007, 07:24 PM
the weather could change in the final two days. the indian bowlers have been more adept at using the conditions than i had thought them capable. it is an interestingly poised match. if the weather remains how it is, any lead over 300 would be totally safe for england.

Faisal
July 21, 2007, 08:52 PM
England have 90% chance of winning if no rain tomorrow. ;)

Sovik
July 22, 2007, 08:27 AM
its all upto weather now. england has a good chance of winning this match

bharat
July 22, 2007, 08:31 AM
its all upto weather now. england has a good chance of winning this match

It seems to be a good batting pitch,I dont see a reason why India cant draw the match ...good or bad weather.

Sovik
July 22, 2007, 08:33 AM
It seems to be a good batting pitch,I dont see a reason why India cant draw the match ...good or bad weather.

the batting line up that india has they can easily bat for next 5 sessions but who knows.

MohammedC
July 22, 2007, 09:52 AM
England all out for 282(KP 130+, RP Singh 5 for)
India set 380 to win with four full session left it is possible (well slightly), but weather forecast for tomorrow not looking good. All 3 result still possible. bookmaker's got england favourite but I think its the weather which will have the last laugh.

bharat
July 22, 2007, 10:04 AM
A decent fightback by India

These are my predictions

Draw -40% (Taking the weather and India's batting into consideration)
Eng Win -35% (Again taking Indias batting into consideration ..wither under pressure)

India Win-25% (Again Indian batting can be great on a given day)

MohammedC
July 22, 2007, 10:26 AM
india 23/0, good start by india, runrate 3.66 if they dont loose any wicket going in to tomorrow. they will probably score. 150+ runs

Ahg984
July 22, 2007, 10:54 AM
there goes Jaffer .. wasnt expecting much from him anyway.

Surfer
July 22, 2007, 11:02 AM
India are doing no bad right now. We need Dravid to stay there for a long time.

al Furqaan
July 22, 2007, 11:10 AM
the wall falls...

Miraz
July 22, 2007, 11:11 AM
India are doing no bad right now. We need Dravid to stay there for a long time.

And there goes the hope. IMO, a touch unlucky. The impact was about a centimeter outside the off stump,

Surfer
July 22, 2007, 11:22 AM
And there goes the hope. IMO, a touch unlucky. The impact was about a centimeter outside the off stump,

Okay, the game is a tough one for India now. We need the senior pros to stick there now. English rain can not be depended on...so playing good cricket is the best thing to do:D

Dhruvo
July 22, 2007, 11:32 AM
Hey surfer are you from india.

MohammedC
July 22, 2007, 12:24 PM
Monty destroys tendulkars last dream--to score a century at lords

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width=446 bgColor=#eeeeee border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right width=30>24.5</TD><TD width="100%">Panesar to Tendulkar, OUT, and Monty gets his man again! Look at those celebrations! In the same manner as in his Test debut at Nagpur, Monty tosses it up on off stump, and its the arm ball, Tendulkar gets forward, the bat stays behind the pad, he gets struck in line in front of about off stump, Monty and Co. belt out an appeal and after a thought Steve Bucknor raises the dreaded finger! Thats out! </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=30></TD><TD>SR Tendulkar lbw b Panesar 16 (35b 3x4 0x6) SR: 45.71 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Sovik
July 22, 2007, 01:19 PM
anybody's match now.

al Furqaan
July 22, 2007, 02:16 PM
Monty destroys tendulkars last dream--to score a century at lords

tendy's scored a ton at lords before.

MohammedC
July 22, 2007, 02:26 PM
tendy's scored a ton at lords before.

Tendulkar at Lords before this match.
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 W BB BowlAv 5w Ct St

unfiltered 137 10922 248* 55.44 37 43 41 3/10 48.36 0 89 0
filtered 3 96 31 19.20 0 0 0 - - 0 4 0

Huda
July 22, 2007, 02:47 PM
tendy's scored a ton at lords before.

He has no 100 at lords in a test match, was mentioned when he got out in the first innings, neither has lara for that matter.

cricket_pagol
July 22, 2007, 02:52 PM
India putting up a decent fight, i think their resistance will not be good enough

Sohel
July 22, 2007, 04:17 PM
With Tendy and Dravid failing, only Dada and V.V.S stand between India and yet another reality-check abroad.

One World
July 22, 2007, 04:21 PM
After a long time I smell a 5th day win from a later batting side. Dravid needed Yuvraj at lower order.

Sovik
July 22, 2007, 04:46 PM
He has no 100 at lords in a test match, was mentioned when he got out in the first innings, neither has lara for that matter.

does it really matter? strauss has few century at lords but that doesn't make him any better than sachin.

tonoy
July 22, 2007, 06:02 PM
i dont know it looks like indians arent in a such a bad positions you know. I mean they can win this.

Sovik
July 23, 2007, 05:51 AM
i dont know it looks like indians arent in a such a bad positions you know. I mean they can win this.

doesn't look like they are going to win this match. they have already lost 5 wickets.

Omio
July 23, 2007, 06:04 AM
eng very close to win,

Baundule
July 23, 2007, 07:00 AM
India needs only 178 more

Surfer
July 23, 2007, 08:18 AM
India need 148 with four wickets remaining. Matter of time or matter of rain:D

Miraz
July 23, 2007, 08:27 AM
India's chance of winning the match completely depends on Dhoni. A career saving innings from him can be the match winning one.

Ahg984
July 23, 2007, 08:48 AM
No chance of winning for India now. Indian tail enders are not known for giving much resistance. Match over within the next 25 overs.

cricket_dorshok
July 23, 2007, 08:49 AM
Eng is very close to victory. only 3 wkts to go. Only rain can save India.

cricket_pagol
July 23, 2007, 09:42 AM
Will India be saved by bad light or rain?

Surfer
July 23, 2007, 09:50 AM
Tea has been taken five minutes early because of bad light. After they took tea, it started to rain. The forecast says it will rain more. It might just be the end of the match.

Surfer
July 23, 2007, 09:50 AM
Everyone is thinking about the match. No one is thinking about poor English farmers. Let it rain good today.:D

Miraz
July 23, 2007, 09:53 AM
Everyone is thinking about the match. No one is thinking about poor English farmers. Let it rain good today.:D

C'mon man! England is severely affected by flood. No more rain please!! :D

Hatebreed
July 23, 2007, 10:35 AM
Rain is saving India from humiliation! C'mon England, just one more wicket!

Dhruvo
July 23, 2007, 10:50 AM
Come on England win the match only 1 wicket to win it.

Ahg984
July 23, 2007, 11:12 AM
whatever the result, it was a good even game. England outplayed India 1st innings, and India outplayed England marginally in 2nd innings. Considering England is a strong test team at home, a less than 100 run loss is definitely not humiliation.

Puck
July 23, 2007, 11:25 AM
With Tendy and Dravid failing, only Dada and V.V.S stand between India and yet another reality-check abroad.

i am a supporter of england and have been so since seeing david gower score his double century in the mid eighties. i was barely out of shorts when elegance ceased to be a criteria in international cricket. since those heady days of gower and martin crowe, the nineties produced very few elegant players. azharudding and mark waugh entertained us at times but this decade seem to have been totally shorn of silky touches. v v s, in his prime is the most elegant player in the indian side. so i had hoped to see a little more of him. alas, we had to put up with responsible dhoni!

bharat
July 23, 2007, 11:25 AM
Rain is saving India from humiliation! C'mon England, just one more wicket!

Humiliation ??? are we watching the same match.Its been a facianting test match cricket .. . one session and one player prooved to be the difference between the teams ..this is what good test matches are about.

Miraz
July 23, 2007, 11:36 AM
Humiliation ??? are we watching the same match.Its been a facianting test match cricket .. . one session and one player prooved to be the difference between the teams ..this is what good test matches are about.

Agree with you. It was a good Test match to watch and England has slight edge over India. It's the tail which is letting India down. Kumble 3 runs, Zaheer 0, RP Singh 2 runs. They should have done better.

Tintin
July 23, 2007, 11:43 AM
An hour and 15 minutes to go till the last possible moment when play can resume, and it is still raining.

bharat
July 23, 2007, 12:00 PM
Agree with you. It was a good Test match to watch and England has slight edge over India. It's the tail which is letting India down. Kumble 3 runs, Zaheer 0, RP Singh 2 runs. They should have done better.

Seriously ..the tail was a disaster ..I could easily trade BD tailenders with India's ..Zaheer shot was a shoker (reminded me of Rafiq's shot against Murali ..but the stakes were higher here).

Maybe Zaheer was showing his frustration against the Indian top order failure in the first ininnings.India could have done much better in the first innings.

Ahg984
July 23, 2007, 12:15 PM
in all likelihood match heading for a draw. Isnt this wonderful?? lol im sure the English fans are pissed.

Ahg984
July 23, 2007, 12:31 PM
yipppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! India saved!

:-D :-D

Hatebreed
July 23, 2007, 12:58 PM
Humiliation ??? are we watching the same match.Its been a facianting test match cricket .. . one session and one player prooved to be the difference between the teams ..this is what good test matches are about.

I'm not talking about good test match, I'm talking about India being supposedly better than England and only rain saved them from defeat. It proves further India is not so mighty outside the sub-continent.

DJ Sahastra
July 23, 2007, 01:05 PM
We have let so many teams escape (weather, poor umpiring or last wicket stand) that it was a refreshing change to see us escape liek that.

I haven't rejoiced even a win as much as i rejoice this draw. Says it all.

Btw, as someone rightly said, Pieterson's inning was the only difference between the two sides. England clearly had an upperhand but theer aws no humiliation for India.

And India is renowned to be a poor starter.

Fazal
July 23, 2007, 02:06 PM
We have let so many teams escape (weather, poor umpiring or last wicket stand) that it was a refreshing change to see us escape liek that.

I haven't rejoiced even a win as much as i rejoice this draw. Says it all.


Hmmm... looks like people are getting innovative here, getting different unconventional ways to get happy now a days.... DJ is happy with the draw (instad of a win), fews BD fans are getting happy now days so they can sleep longer...

Seeing soo many people happy now a days..... I am also feeling pretty Happy....

"Don't worry .... Be Happy...."

DJ Sahastra
July 23, 2007, 02:34 PM
Fazal Mamu,

You are not far from truth. But to clarify a little more, my reason for rejoicing is the pure joy that Indian tailenders (last wkt) defied the english bowlers for a full 5 overs before rain saved them.

It is like snatching a draw from the jaws of certain defeat!

It is like defying the odds with a brave display :).

It is like overcoming the adversity to save the moment.

It is like .... ahhhhhhhhh... pure bliss :)

Beamer
July 23, 2007, 03:21 PM
Very impressed with England bowling without the much vaunted trio of Harmison, Flintoff and Hoggard. Replacement rookie/young pacers held their own against a much vaunted and experienced Indian batting line. They have very good depth in pacers and explains why England are a top test side these days.

This Piestersen is something. Nine test tons already!

This is what test cricket is all about. Big oppurtunity lost by England though. Getting Dravid cheaply in both innings won't happen again. Same can be said about Tendulkar. Why is India reluctant to play the magic named Yuvraj Singh? Overall, India's pacers did very well, sans the first day blues, but overall, kept the score down. Good job. Looking forward to the second test.

Must say a word about the beauty that is Michael Vaughan while in full flow : sublime..

Sovik
July 23, 2007, 05:20 PM
english summer denied england.

syzygy
July 23, 2007, 06:24 PM
Rain is saving India from humiliation! C'mon England, just one more wicket!

humiliation ?? is it the right word..i am afraid u dont know what is meant by humiliation...its something when a team score less than 100 in two consecutive innings or looses by innings in 4 consecutive tests...sorry to bring that up but i think the current eng-ind series has been one of the most competitive (Eng is No 2 in test rankings) and it was only KP who rescued eng. if the batters do their job, i think ind will win the remaining 2 tests quite comfortably :)

syzygy
July 23, 2007, 07:32 PM
thanks dhoni for putting up a brave fight :notworthy: ..you make us proud once more :)

the english fans and the team is badly frustrated by the result while ind fans and team is high on spirits...i hope the english frustration creeps into their test 2 and they falter badly :)

Hatebreed
July 23, 2007, 07:35 PM
humiliation ?? is it the right word..i am afraid u dont know what is meant by humiliation...its something when a team score less than 100 in two consecutive innings or looses by innings in 4 consecutive tests...sorry to bring that up but i think the current eng-ind series has been one of the most competitive (Eng is No 2 in test rankings) and it was only KP who rescued eng. if the batters do their job, i think ind will win the remaining 2 tests quite comfortably :)

Oh I know. I know that there is NO word for when a team scores less than 100 in two consecutive innings and loses by innings in 4 consecutive tests. It is beyond humiliation.

Ahg984
July 23, 2007, 09:46 PM
thanks dhoni for putting up a brave fight :notworthy: ..you make us proud once more :)

the english fans and the team is badly frustrated by the result while ind fans and team is high on spirits...i hope the english frustration creeps into their test 2 and they falter badly :)

you evil little ill wisher of the other team! but 3 cheers for you for being such a great Indian fan.:applause: :applause: :applause:

Beamer
July 23, 2007, 11:02 PM
humiliation ?? is it the right word..i am afraid u dont know what is meant by humiliation...its something when a team score less than 100 in two consecutive innings or looses by innings in 4 consecutive tests...sorry to bring that up but i think the current eng-ind series has been one of the most competitive (Eng is No 2 in test rankings) and it was only KP who rescued eng. if the batters do their job, i think ind will win the remaining 2 tests quite comfortably :)

Correct. India was no way near what can be termed as a 'humiliation' in this test. They actually did well to save the match, though England would have won, had the rain not made a timely arrival for India.

You are right about 'humiliation' as well when you point out our recent performances in tests and ODI's, though, it was out of context, and really wasn't necessary. But then again...

Staying true to the spirit of 'out of context' humiliation, how about India in WC ? Not moving beyond the group stages, and that too at the highest stage of World Cricket known as the WORLD CUP can only be termed as UTTER HUMILIATION..:lol:

cricket_pagol
July 23, 2007, 11:40 PM
humiliation ?? is it the right word..i am afraid u dont know what is meant by humiliation...its something when a team score less than 100 in two consecutive innings or looses by innings in 4 consecutive tests...sorry to bring that up but i think the current eng-ind series has been one of the most competitive (Eng is No 2 in test rankings) and it was only KP who rescued eng. if the batters do their job, i think ind will win the remaining 2 tests quite comfortably :)

Well said Beamer.

I think indian bowlers put up a spirited performance, but there batting performance was horrible. The English pace trio are virtually newbies in test cricket and still India were out for 201 in first innings and the close to 300 for the other. I think it is fair call this humiliation. Can't wait to see more humiliation to a second string English attack :)

Huda
July 24, 2007, 12:26 AM
does it really matter? strauss has few century at lords but that doesn't make him any better than sachin.

Thats not the point, al furqaan said he had a 100 at lords, all i said that he hasn't, nothing complicated.

Huda
July 24, 2007, 12:28 AM
I'm not talking about good test match, I'm talking about India being supposedly better than England and only rain saved them from defeat. It proves further India is not so mighty outside the sub-continent.

Yep that's right the English test team is right up there after the Aussies, indians don't come close to it. India have only ever won 5 test matches on English soil, and only 1 away series in like 20+ years if i seem to remember and that was against the Windies.

Nocturnal
July 24, 2007, 01:16 AM
Good Article:
The numbers show India's dependence on the middle order is bad judgment
Flabby in the middle
Sambit Bal at Lord's
July 23, 2007
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</td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> Did India really deserve to save the Test? You could say their bowlers did, for after a shocking opening session when they were affected as much by nerves as by lack of practical knowledge about overcoming and using the unique slope at Lord's, they exceeded expectations. You could also hand it to Dinesh Karthik, a young man thrust into a difficult job who showed both skill and heart, and Mahendra Singh Dhoni, who rose above his technical difficulties against the moving ball to hang in there. To these unlikely saviours and the benevolence of weather does India owe this draw.
But there is a story within a story. India's three fifties in this Test came from the weakest links: Wasim Jaffer, who came to this Test with three failures, Karthik, who is not a opener, and Dhoni, who had batted like a tail-ender in the first innings. In the end, to hold out for 96 overs was creditable because it was always going to rain. In fact, it was a surprise that it rained as late as it did. But what of the men who were expected to deliver for India?
India's mighty middle order came up against England's most enfeebled pace attack in a home Test since 1993 and managed only 192 runs. That's an average of 24. James Anderson cannot be denied credit. He bowled with intelligence and control but the conditions, while challenging, were never impossible. 201 - the first innings score - was probably 150 short of what was achievable.
Is it too early to make a reassessment of India's batting strength? Wasn't it a similar story in 2002, when the Indian middle order collapsed twice to lose them the Test at Lord's only to reveal its full splendour in Tests that followed? That series in fact heralded a golden run for India lasting about 18 months. Now that they have the breathing space of a draw behind them, can they not be expected to flower again?
They may well, for far more unlikely things have happened in cricket. If you're a betting man, though, don't put your money on it yet. This is a batting order that has long lived on reputation; three years, to be precise. Not since the tour of Pakistan in early 2004 has India's middle order earned the right to be termed as mighty.
Let's dispense with the numbers first. In Test matches since that series Sachin Tendulkar averages 45.67, Sourav Ganguly 36.24 and VVS Laxman 33.70. But even these numbers hide the reality for none them has failed to cash in on weak opponents. Three of Tendulkar's last four hundreds - including a career-best 248 - have come against Bangladesh, Ganguly has scored hundreds against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, his only centuries since a stirring 144 against Australia at Brisbane in 2002, and Laxman has got a hundred against Zimbabwe. Remove these runs and the story is dire. Tendulkar's average dips to 31.19, Ganguly's to 29.40 and Laxman's to 32.19.
Increasingly it looks likely that this is what India's once-glittering middle order is capable of providing in demanding conditions: battling 30s and the odd half-century. That's what Tendulkar, Laxman and Ganguly provided at Lord's and that's what they did against Australia, Pakistan and South Africa in 2004-05, and against South Africa earlier this year. More than 20 Tests in the space of three years is a long enough sample period to present a pattern and, despite what the rest of this series might bring, it's about time to bury the myth about India's middle order.
India's batting in recent years has been about two men. One of them isn't here. Despite his failure in South Africa Virender Sehwag averages 46.89 in Tests since May 2004 and, incredibly, his average goes a couple of points higher if you remove his Tests against Zimbabwe.
The other is Rahul Dravid, who averages nearly 50 without his runs against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. India missed a big innings from him in South Africa. It was the first time since 1999 that he'd gone through a series without a half-century and it perhaps cost India the series. In both innings at Lord's he was dismissed without getting in, which is not something that can be said about Tendulkar, Laxman and Ganguly.
Batsmen who get into the 30s can't be described as out of form. But the failure to push on from there must point to something. Has the process of survival become so onerous that it is draining away the mental resources needed to construct more substantial innings? Can the body no longer endure the rigour? Is it a combination of both?
Indian cricket would be living in denial if it fails to acknowledge the decline. Cherish their golden years but don't expect them to light up a wet summer.
Sambit Bal is the editor of Cricinfo and Cricinfo Magazine
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/columns/content/current/story/303374.html

Surfer
July 24, 2007, 01:19 AM
There is one point that everyone is missing: On the last day, India successfully implimented their gameplan and England failed to do that.

The bad light and the rain were always on the cards given the clear forecast. So both teams were playing keeping the weather in mind. India's game plan was to hang on till the weather intervened....they did it right. England's game plan should have been to bowl as many overs as possible before the weather intervened. They failed to do that. With Panesar (a spinner) bowling, their overrate was 13 an hour. That could so easily have been better. So, in a direct way, England have themselves to blame for not winning the match.

I can imagine what the message must have been from the Indian dressing room: Hang on guys. Dont panic, the rain might hit any time. So, we have a good chance of drawing this. Just hang on there. But did the English dressing room asked the players to hurry up and squeez in as many overs as possible befroe the rain came? I dont think so.

Weather interfering is nothing new in England, they should have been wont to these strategies by now.

But having said that, I think England did play better cricket than India and deserved to win the match and that India was lucky to get a draw.

BD-Shardul
July 24, 2007, 01:39 AM
I envy the luck of India.

indfan82
July 24, 2007, 02:04 AM
Well said Beamer.

I think indian bowlers put up a spirited performance, but there batting performance was horrible. The English pace trio are virtually newbies in test cricket and still India were out for 201 in first innings and the close to 300 for the other. I think it is fair call this humiliation. Can't wait to see more humiliation to a second string English attack :)
bhaiyya humiliation is what england did to windies. india and england were evenstevens for most of th match except for the 4th day petersons innings that made the difference.if india were playing a second string attack eng were playing an inexperienced indian attack and they do they have batting stars of their own vaughan bell ,cook, collingwood, strauss(all averaging from mid 40's to mid 50's)...all failed when it mattered the most in the second inngsto press on the advantage..... and lest i forget two of the famed four did play valuable inngs in the secondinnings even if they didnt score big (dada,laxman) if i get to see more such matches then its gonna be a great series......I know you want to see india lose badly but atleast keep it honest when you post stuff

ellawilson
July 24, 2007, 05:29 AM
This test series is playing between India and England. first test has drawn .in this match both teams has done well no one is lesser then another, in this match England has won the toss and elected to bat first and scored 298 and India has scored 201 in first inning. and in second inning both team scored same. but in last hours england need one wicket bcoz india has scored 282/9 . mean while due to bad light the umpiars are decided to finish the match and the result was match drawn....

Let’s seen who will be winner in rest of matches?

indfan82
July 24, 2007, 07:17 AM
This test series is playing between India and England. first test has drawn .in this match both teams has done well no one is lesser then another, in this match England has won the toss and elected to bat first and scored 298 and India has scored 201 in first inning. and in second inning both team scored same. but in last hours england need one wicket bcoz india has scored 282/9 . mean while due to bad light the umpiars are decided to finish the match and the result was match drawn....

Let’s seen who will be winner in rest of matches?:D
spammer on board

Electrequiem
July 24, 2007, 12:54 PM
Heh, why can't BD be as lucky as India when it comes to rain? India saved due to rain ... dhurr. Inshallah England will excercise unrestrained hegemony on the next matches.

Surfer
July 24, 2007, 11:11 PM
Heh, why can't BD be as lucky as India when it comes to rain? India saved due to rain ... dhurr. Inshallah England will excercise unrestrained hegemony on the next matches.

India managed with a couple of hours of rain. The way BD is playing these days, they need something like three days of rain to save a match.

Ahg984
July 25, 2007, 07:24 AM
Thats the way BD has ALWAYS played.

Puck
July 30, 2007, 03:00 PM
Thats the way BD has ALWAYS played.

the only way is up!

DJ Sahastra
July 30, 2007, 05:03 PM
I don't intend to calm down the spatters but here is the thing - Even if India had lost the first Test, there was no humiliation of any kind.

At the same time, there is no need for someone to bring up even an indirect reference to BD teams current exploits since in all honesty, they are still the infants of the Cricket world and likely to get some harsh lessons.

That said, what exactly is a humiliating defeat? Generally, for team India, i would take an innings defeat or a defeat over 150 runs or with 7 or more wickets in hand as humiliating. If the match doesn't go to day-5, that's also embarassing unless it's a low score match.

For team Bangladesh, i would take any defeat where the match doesn't go to day-4 as humiliating. A defeat by innings & 100+ runs would also be humiliating. Just an innings defeat or defeat by under 250 runs would be embarassing but not humiliating.

Fazal
July 30, 2007, 05:20 PM
So whats your point D.J. ?

DJ Sahastra
July 30, 2007, 05:45 PM
Fazal Mamu,

I had following 3-Points (which i thought atleast you would understand easily :) ).

1. It is a bit out-of place to be saying "India escaped Humiliation" for the first test ending in Draw. There was no Humiliation anywhere.

2. It is equally out of place for someone to drag in Bangladesh's recent losses. Bangladesh team's travails in SL or elsewhere doesn't change anything if Indian team loses badly.

3. Same yardsticks don't apply since India and Bangladesh team are in different stages of their development and with different expectations from their fans. What may qualify as a humiliating defeat for Indian team need not be the humiliating defeat for BD. The yardsticks are different.

Fazal
July 30, 2007, 05:58 PM
D.J. Jii

"let it go .... let it go... let it go"

BD SRI series finished a while ago. IND-ENG test 1 finished a week ago, now there is another garam-a garam thread going on for IND-ENG test 2 where india is on the way of winning it. And you are khamosh with old stuff...?

Go out ... ...take some fresh air.. go to some bar/night club and and have some fun.... after-all India is winning after a long long time away from home in a meaningfull game in hostile territory.

Don't spoil it man... these things comes in a lifetime !!!:-D

DJ Sahastra
July 30, 2007, 06:05 PM
D.J. Jii

"let it go .... let it go... let it go"

BD SRI series finished a while ago. IND-ENG test 1 finished a week ago, now there is another garam-a garam thread going on for IND-ENG test 2 where india is on the way of winning it. And you are khamosh with old stuff...?

Go out ... ...take some fresh air.. go to some bar/night club and and have some fun.... after-all India is winning after a long long time away from home in a meaningfull game in hostile territory.

Don't spoil it man... these things comes in a lifetime !!!:-D

Mamu,

I just wanted to calm down some of my own countrymen who were taking remarks from fellow BD members too seriously while also trying to reason within my own limited resources with my fellow BD members to not be too harsh in their choice of words :).

Btw, match isn't won yet - i don't party until it's over :).

bharat
July 30, 2007, 06:06 PM
D.J. Jii

"let it go .... let it go... let it go"

BD SRI series finished a while ago. IND-ENG test 1 finished a week aga, now there is another garam-a garam thread going on for IND-ENG test 2 where india is on the way of winning it. And you are khamosh with old stuff...?

Go out ... ...take some fresh air.. go to some ar/night club and and have some fun.... after-all India is winning after a long long time away from home in a meaningfull game in hostile territory.

Don't spoil it man... these things comes in a lifetime !!!:-D


well ....India has been winning tests (outside India) quiet frequently

If I am not wrong the last 5 test series have been (abroad)

1.Australia -- Won 1 test (drew the series )
2.Pak -won 1 test
3.W.I won 1 test and series
4.SA won 1 test
5.BD won 2 test

India has been the only team that has been doing well both in and outside India ..check the records man..
ofcourse this is apart from the Aussies

Fazal
July 30, 2007, 06:11 PM
D.J. Jii

One more request. Can you please take bharat jii with you also and both of you have some fun? Looks like he also needs some.

There is time to be bitter... and there is time to celebrate !!! And as an Indian criucket fans, you both need to concentrate on celebrating.... winning against ENG at England is not easy as most of the recent tourist including AUS found out.

DJ Sahastra
July 30, 2007, 06:14 PM
Fazal Mamu,

There is still a match to be won. Given that the rain gods can still conspire, i had rather wait until the match is won :-D

bharat
July 30, 2007, 06:43 PM
D.J. Jii

One more request. Can you please take bharat jii with you also and both of you have some fun? Looks like he also needs some.

.

Fazal ji u never dissapoint me with your wit right from the day one ..which I guess was 2 years ago ..

It would be fun if you joined us too :D

Puck
August 2, 2007, 08:08 PM
fazal mamu is like fazal mahmood perhaps, sharp in his wit