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Buddhika_s
August 14, 2007, 10:06 PM
Murali sues chucking nemesis

By Jon Pierik

August 15, 2007 AUSTRALIAN critics of Sri Lanka's Muttiah Muralitharan should take heed after the spin king yesterday launched a $9 million legal suit against long-time detractor Bishan Bedi.

Tired of the constant jibes about his controversial bowling action, Muralitharan's manager Kushil Gunasekera last night revealed a letter of demand had been served on Bedi, the former India spinner.

This comes as a warning to Australia players, commentators and fans ahead of Sri Lanka's visit this summer for two Tests - in Brisbane and Hobart - and the traditional ODI tri-series.

"The lawyers have delivered a letter of demand," Gunasekera said from Colombo.

"It's not the first time Bedi has done it but what he is saying is that the ICC has created a 'monster' in Murali, that Murali is cheating, and that he is not a good example for young boys playing cricket.

"Bedi says he is trying to get an advantage from his deformity. They are very distasteful remarks."

Bedi, 60, has been a long-time critic of Muralitharan, whose rubber-wristed and double-jointed action first created a furore during the 1995-1996 Boxing Day Test when he was called for throwing by Australian umpire Darrell Hair.

Bedi, who took 266 wickets in 67 Tests, has dubbed the off-spinner a "javelin thrower" in the past but now likens him to a "shot putter".

"Our kanhaiya (Murali), who I called the best shot putter, will go on to become the highest wicket-taker of all time. That for me is not right," he said.

"You have to bowl with the shoulder, but Murali uses his arm."

http://www.slcricket.com/index.php?topic=14370.0;topicseen

Surfer
August 14, 2007, 10:52 PM
finally someone slaps Bedi for his constant non sense BS. Well done Murali.

Sohel
August 14, 2007, 11:57 PM
WTG Murali, BSB needs this after getting away with his BS for years.

Tintin
August 15, 2007, 12:05 AM
This will be interesting, especially if it actually gets to the court. No doubt SLCB will try the tactics that worked very well with ICC a few years back.

Kabir
August 15, 2007, 01:51 AM
Someone mentioned a few days ago that Bedi should be accompanied by an adult every time he opens his mouth. I guess the few times he wasn't accompanied, they will all come back to him and haunt him with lawsuits.

BD-Shardul
August 15, 2007, 04:33 AM
Bedi will now have to pay the price for being jealous and stupid as well.

Puck
August 15, 2007, 10:42 AM
would he have nine million dollars to spare? i think he should ask the mittal family to lend him nine million so the sake of free speech. bedi is an interesting character and i feel the game is better for having him.

DJ Sahastra
August 15, 2007, 11:08 AM
I personally don't like Bedi or his comments.

That said, Murali's lawsuit looks laughable and is probably aimed more at shutting Bedi up than anything else.

And yes, i am not entirely convinced about Murali's bowling action either. Let me just say there are dubious aspects to many of his deliveries.

Padosan
August 15, 2007, 12:42 PM
The best thing to do is ignore bedi, let the barking dogs bark.

Its high time they leave Murali alone, enough tests and analysis have been done on murali's action in the matches, in the labs and off the labs. When everything came out good, why bother him time and again ???

Just to have some fun, Ranatunga or Mendis can pass derrogatory remarks on Bedi.

Beamer
August 15, 2007, 12:46 PM
Bedi and Sarfraz are long lost brothers?

Pundit
August 15, 2007, 03:29 PM
And yes, i am not entirely convinced about Murali's bowling action either. Let me just say there are dubious aspects to many of his deliveries.

Why is that? Like most of us, I am of average build and brains. I don't have the galloping thunder of Imran Khan that helped him generate the pace, the finger work of Kapil that helped him with his cutters, the thickness in Warnes' wrist that made him spin the ball, or the shoulder strength of Shoaib that helped him demolish opposing batsmen?

Everybody has assets, and those with special ones become famous. I think people who have issues with Murali should take it up with God.

rubel_18
August 15, 2007, 03:37 PM
Why is that? Like most of us, I am of average build and brains. I don't have the galloping thunder of Imran Khan that helped him generate the pace, the finger work of Kapil that helped him with his cutters, the thickness in Warnes' wrist that made him spin the ball, or the shoulder strength of Shoaib that helped him demolish opposing batsmen?

Everybody has assets, and those with special ones become famous. I think people who have issues with Murali should take it up with God.

Exactly spot on mate, everyone is gifted in a different way and Murali has a different abilty from other players just as other players are different from him and all this stuff abt Murali's bowling action not bein rite shud stop cos they hav done enuff tests to determine it is a legal bowling action. I am telling u if he wasnt a vry successful bowler I doubt there wud be any critics of his bowling in other words these ppl are jealous of how gud he is.

Mahmood
August 15, 2007, 03:48 PM
Apologicies to all, but I think Murali should not be allowed to bowl . Just coz he was born disfigured so that his elbow is alredy bent can not be ground enough to allow him to bowl those over bent delivaries.

The same logic dictates, just coz someone is born without arms can not be a ground to let him take penalty shots like soccer to bowl with his legs.

Pundit
August 15, 2007, 04:55 PM
Apologicies to all, but I think Murali should not be allowed to bowl . Just coz he was born disfigured so that his elbow is alredy bent can not be ground enough to allow him to bowl those over bent delivaries.

The same logic dictates, just coz someone is born without arms can not be a ground to let him take penalty shots like soccer to bowl with his legs.

No need to apologise - you are entitled to your opinions. Though do be careful, he could sue you, you know.

I don't like hime anymore than you do, but that should not prevent us from TRYING to be objective. You have cited extreme examples to explain your logic. Typically (not in your case) that's just an overzealous attempt to win over an argument. By your logic, anybody with 5 fingers alone should consider himself/herself adequate to qualify for the national cricket team.

Mahmood
August 15, 2007, 05:40 PM
Of course...quoting former chief selector Mailnul, " O (Durjoy) to shudhu haat ghuray, amio omon ball korte pari".

jabbar
August 15, 2007, 09:15 PM
Former Indian cricketers are such smart a**es.

Surfer
August 15, 2007, 10:08 PM
Apologicies to all, but I think Murali should not be allowed to bowl . Just coz he was born disfigured so that his elbow is alredy bent can not be ground enough to allow him to bowl those over bent delivaries.

The same logic dictates, just coz someone is born without arms can not be a ground to let him take penalty shots like soccer to bowl with his legs.

Another thing I fail to understand about Murali is how can he throw accurately from the boundary line with a straight arm but cant bowl with a straight one.

Buddhika_s
August 15, 2007, 10:48 PM
Another thing I fail to understand about Murali is how can he throw accurately from the boundary line with a straight arm but cant bowl with a straight one.

lol

he doesn't have a bowler's action when he's actually THROWING the ball lol

Buddhika_s
August 15, 2007, 10:52 PM
Apologicies to all, but I think Murali should not be allowed to bowl . Just coz he was born disfigured so that his elbow is alredy bent can not be ground enough to allow him to bowl those over bent delivaries.

The same logic dictates, just coz someone is born without arms can not be a ground to let him take penalty shots like soccer to bowl with his legs.


here read this,


Brace yourselves for new footage that may prove Murali's not bending the law
There's another twist in the Muttiah Muralitharan chucking controversy, writes Mark Nicholas in London.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/07/07/200_murali,0.jpg

There's another twist in the Muttiah Muralitharan chucking controversy, writes Mark Nicholas in London.

Few champions of cricket have divided opinion like Muttiah Muralitharan. To some, he is blessed by genius and is a worthy holder of the world record for Test wickets. To others, he is a cheat. The vitriol frequently poured upon him is astonishing, given that most of those who pour have not studied his extraordinary and unique action properly.

Muralitharan should be playing Test cricket in Australia now. He chose not to do so partly because the Prime Minister, John Howard, agreed he was "a chucker" and thus added fuel to the fire that already scorches the Sri Lankan in Australia, and partly because he orchestrated the chance to come to England and defend himself.

It is not fair to say that he is avoiding the Australians. He took 28 wickets during the three-Test series against them in Sri Lanka earlier this year. It is fair, though, to say that he is bored of Australian crowds who cry "no-ball" each time he delivers. By not touring the place in which world cricket is at its strongest, he has let down himself, his team and the game at large. But he will live with this for now because he is on a mission to clear his name.

Watch him bowl and you reckon he chucks, simple as that. To some, this is not a problem because the batsman is not physically threatened and, anyway, the game needs his magic, they say. Once again, to others, some of whom are driven by jealousy, he is the most extreme example of cricket's worst disease.

Earlier this week we made a film with him that will be shown on Britain's Channel 4 during the Test against England on July 22. Hopefully, we go a fair way to explaining the illusion that suggests his action is not legal.

Law 24.3 states: "A ball is fairly delivered . . . if, once the bowler's arm has reached the level of the shoulder in the delivery swing, the elbow joint is not straightened partially or completely from that point until the ball has left the hand."

The first thing that strikes one about Murali is that his arms do not hang in the normal manner, there is a clear bend of about 30 degrees from the elbow that leads to the opening of his shoulders and hands in his stance. This is a deformity from birth and allows him to rotate his shoulders in a way I have not previously seen. The spin he imparts on the ball, either with the seam upright or vertical, comes as much from the use of his wrist as from his fingers.

He bowled three balls - the off-spinner, the top-spinner and the doosra - as he would in a match and was filmed by four cameras at varying amounts of frames per second and from various angles. On each occasion a kink, jerk or quirk was evident in his action that seemed to come from the straightening of a bent elbow.

Then he bowled the same three balls with a brace that is made from steel bars, which are set into strong resin. This brace has been moulded to his right arm, is approximately 46 centimetres long and weighs just under 1 kilogram.

There is no way an arm can be bent, or flexed, when it is in this brace. I am sure of this because I tried. All three balls reacted in the same way as when bowled without the brace. They were not bowled quite so fast because the weight of the brace restricts the speed of Murali's shoulder rotation, but the spin was still there. Murali has a quick arm, as quick as most fast bowlers. This, along with his strong wrist, imparts dramatic energy on the ball.

With the brace on, there still appeared to be a jerk in his action. When studying the film at varying speeds, it still appeared as if he straightened his arm, even though the brace makes it impossible to do so. His unique shoulder rotation and amazing wrist action seem to create the illusion that he straightens his arm. I have long believed that many bowlers have suspect actions by the strictest application of law 24.3. I do not feel they are cheating the game. Rather, I feel it is a near-miracle that the game has not been further sullied by such accusations. "Straightened partially" means one degree of flexion, never mind the five degrees for slow bowlers and 10 for fast bowlers now permitted by the International Cricket Council. Bowling with an elbow joint that does not move at all is darn difficult.

I wouldn't say we have solved the mystery, but the example of the brace shows he gains little or no advantage beyond other bowlers who also have degrees of flexion. Murali has a case and he should be heard.

Telegraph, London

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/07/1089000223490.html?from=storylhs

Tintin
August 16, 2007, 01:24 AM
$7 million seems to be the number :

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Aug152007/sports2007081519294.asp?section=updatenews

Sohel
August 16, 2007, 01:57 AM
BSB'll need to sell that land in Patiala, maybe the condo in Gurgaon also.

Puck
August 16, 2007, 06:42 AM
Bedi and Sarfraz are long lost brothers?


are they both from punjab?

Tigers_eye
August 16, 2007, 03:09 PM
Why is that? Like most of us, I am of average build and brains. I don't have the galloping thunder of Imran Khan that helped him generate the pace, the finger work of Kapil that helped him with his cutters, the thickness in Warnes' wrist that made him spin the ball, or the shoulder strength of Shoaib that helped him demolish opposing batsmen?

Everybody has assets, and those with special ones become famous. I think people who have issues with Murali should take it up with God.
Boss mansi. So much drama and excitement at the beginning with such a punch line. The Name says it all.

al Furqaan
August 16, 2007, 06:40 PM
so can we sue the [edit] bedi for defamation???

Puck
August 16, 2007, 07:20 PM
how is bedi a []?

tonoy
August 16, 2007, 07:42 PM
He meant mandira bedi you silly. :p silly rabbit, tricks are for kids only.:D

Hatebreed
August 16, 2007, 08:34 PM
Go Murali, sue his a$$ off!

Muralitharan should be playing Test cricket in Australia now. He chose not to do so partly because the Prime Minister, John Howard, agreed he was "a chucker" and thus added fuel to the fire that already scorches the Sri Lankan in Australia, and partly because he orchestrated the chance to come to England and defend himself.Of course he did. I had only been living for the Aussie PM to tell us if Murali chucks or not. My life has been fulfilled.

MysoreHuli
August 17, 2007, 01:10 AM
Will Murli accept anyone calling him a chucker if they are ready to pay $7 million?

shehani
August 17, 2007, 01:43 AM
c'mon murali♥♥♥

Kabir
August 17, 2007, 01:49 AM
Will Murli accept anyone calling him a chucker if they are ready to pay $7 million?

He shouldn't, unless they pay him $9 million.

Buddhika_s
August 17, 2007, 06:32 AM
Bedi, Ranatunga indulge in war of words

Mumbai: The scathing remarks on Sri Lankan off-spinner Muthiah Muralitharan by former Indian skipper Bishen Singh Bedi seems to have snow-balled on him with Murali’s former skipper Arjuna Ranatunga indulging in war of words with the left-arm spin legend.


After calling Murali, the second highest Test wicket-taker in the world, "the best shot-putter in the history of cricket," Bedi is reported to have hit back at Sri Lanka’s World Cup winning captain Arjuna Ranatunga, who is a staunch supporter of Murali for calling him an idiot, who is only after some publicity."


"Ranatunga is a bigger idiot because he, as a captain, created the ruckus regarding the chucking issue. I would like to believe that I played the gentleman’s game in a gentleman way and I would not like to respond to that rotten Sri Lankan," Bedi has been quoted as saying by MiD-Day here on Friday.


Earlier, Ranatunga had told the tabloid that Bedi just wants publicity and prominence and I think the media should just give him that.


"The Sri Lankans don’t care about Bedi’s comments because he has not praised any Asian cricketer. I respect him as a cricketer, but I know what kind of a person he is. He has said something even against Harbhajan Singh in the past. Has he said anything good about even Anil Kumble or Sunil Gavaskar. He always praises the Australians. I don’t know what connection he has with them," he wondered.


Meanwhile, Muralitharan has threatened to file a defamation case if Bedi does not pay up the compensation amount of 3.4 million Pounds for calling him a chucker even after the International Cricket Council (ICC) had cleared him.


Bedi had accused Murali last week of killing the game with his suspect action.


"People like him are just killing the game and nobody is doing anything about it. Murali will complete 1000 Test wickets, but they would count as mere run outs in my eyes because he is the best shot-putter in the history of cricket," Bedi had said.

http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.cricketnext.com/news/bedi-ranatunga-indulge-in-war-of-words/26448-13.html


haha this guys says he's played the gentleman's game as a gentleman but he's not acting like one for sure lol

Sohel
August 17, 2007, 08:05 PM
Envy pays the other guy. The unsightly combination of envy, malice and sheer stupidity more than USD 7 million.

Humbug
August 18, 2007, 01:42 AM
Apologicies to all, but I think Murali should not be allowed to bowl . Just coz he was born disfigured so that his elbow is alredy bent can not be ground enough to allow him to bowl those over bent delivaries.
Bowling with a bent elbow was never illegal in any case so what is the issue.....

Humbug
August 18, 2007, 01:45 AM
Another thing I fail to understand about Murali is how can he throw accurately from the boundary line with a straight arm but cant bowl with a straight one.
Who on Earth throws with a straight arm from the boundary?

Humbug
August 18, 2007, 01:50 AM
Will Murli accept anyone calling him a chucker if they are ready to pay $7 million?
If Bedi had just called him a chucker Murali would not sue but in his jealousy over the years Bedi has called him all sorts of other names......

I can't believe Bedi is claiming to be a gentlemen of the game and all while behaving like this. If he has issues with Murali's action there are ways of expressing himself calmly and rationally (if he can). Instead in his envy all he can do is resort to name calling which demonstrates that it is nothing but jealousy.... He is more concerned about Murali than he is about Indian cricket.

Rifat
August 18, 2007, 01:59 AM
phhh. if Bedi thinks Murali is a chucker, then why i am i surprised that when Bangladesh defeated India in the World Cup he never said Abdur Razzak "chucked" tendulkar into trouble...

Does anyone thinks Abdur Razzak Chucks, i see the replays and it doen't look good...

Go Murali Go...

AsifTheManRahman
August 18, 2007, 10:54 AM
Razzak had to modify his bowling action in the past and is fine now, just as Murali is.

rah
August 18, 2007, 02:26 PM
All Those Peoople Hoo R Against Murali R Jus Envious
Murali Sue His A$$ Off Please

Rumz_01
August 19, 2007, 05:26 PM
All Those Peoople Hoo R Against Murali R Jus Envious
Murali Sue His A$$ Off Please

lmao! interesting choice of words!

MysoreHuli
August 21, 2007, 02:12 AM
He shouldn't, unless they pay him $9 million.

pay him some $ and u can call him by names... :floor::floor:

Rubu
August 21, 2007, 12:52 PM
I think there are some merit to what people say against Murali. See, there had been many other greats who were brown skins. So, you cannot just shut it up by saying that those are racist people who does not like a brown guy's success (like australians) or someone envy him (like bedi).

the thing is, whether his arm is bent by birth or not should not be considered AT ALL when judging his bowling action. then, if he passes, well and good, leave him alone, but if he fails, he should not be allowed to bowl. and as I could gather from many people's suggestions, his doosras and other non-regular deliveries are out of allowed bending limit.

now, when testing him action, they should not ask him to bowl in front of him as he will only bowl regularly. instead, they should use the footage of the bowls that he used to get wickets and see if there was anything amiss in them.

al Furqaan
August 21, 2007, 03:07 PM
I think there are some merit to what people say against Murali. See, there had been many other greats who were brown skins. So, you cannot just shut it up by saying that those are racist people who does not like a brown guy's success (like australians) or someone envy him (like bedi).

the thing is, whether his arm is bent by birth or not should not be considered AT ALL when judging his bowling action. then, if he passes, well and good, leave him alone, but if he fails, he should not be allowed to bowl. and as I could gather from many people's suggestions, his doosras and other non-regular deliveries are out of allowed bending limit.

now, when testing him action, they should not ask him to bowl in front of him as he will only bowl regularly. instead, they should use the footage of the bowls that he used to get wickets and see if there was anything amiss in them.

very well said...murali does indeed chuck on at least some of his doosras.

Puck
September 1, 2007, 11:29 PM
murali does chuck at times but we never seem to accuse the likes of tony underwood of such heinous crime who chucked every other delivery ;)