PDA

View Full Version : which came first: the CHICKEN or the EGG?


Puck
August 22, 2007, 07:03 AM
do you think the chicken might have come before the egg?

Dhruvo
August 22, 2007, 07:45 AM
do you think the chicken might have come before the egg?
this question actually is like a circle no matter where you go you will always end up in the same place,so both came first the egg and the chicken.

Rubu
August 22, 2007, 07:58 AM
I know the history of the debate, still I think there is a answer. But to understand the answer, you would have to understand Darwinism and has to take it to be true.

Given that, the egg came first before the chicken.

Of course the next question would be, who laid that egg?

And the answer is, the ancestor of chicken.

Now to explain a bit: according to Darwinism all animals are created by change. However, most of the significant change occurs in the gene. The gene does not change once the baby is born. so, whatever is the first chicken it became an egg first.

Baundule
August 22, 2007, 09:19 AM
do you think the chicken might have come before the egg?

Actually, the chicken came first. But ancient chickens were not used to lay eggs. Once a chick got pregnant and at that time she had to go through a surgery. The chick doctor lost his gloves and in a few weeks the first egg was laid! The glove was converted in to the shell and the zygote was inside it.

Sohel
August 22, 2007, 09:51 AM
Fish ?

Rajowana
August 22, 2007, 03:25 PM
Fish ?

hahahahaha Fish lol

Rumz_01
August 22, 2007, 03:46 PM
it was the chicken..bu wait the chicke must have cum from an egg...bu then where did the egg cum from if there was no chicken..
all in a days work! lmao

Omio
August 22, 2007, 05:00 PM
Ghorar dim ..

http://www.austinoriginals.biz/118451c60.jpg

rubel_18
August 22, 2007, 05:03 PM
it was the chicken..bu wait the chicke must have cum from an egg...bu then where did the egg cum from if there was no chicken..
all in a days work! lmao

LOL, its a hard question to ask I assume the chicken came from a cross breed of two different birds which created a chicken that came from an egg

Puck
August 22, 2007, 07:27 PM
why did the chicken crossed the road?

ammark
August 22, 2007, 07:33 PM
why did the chicken crossed the road?

It didnt. you didnt see it, I didnt see it... no one did. Its like if a tree falls in the forest, and no one hears it... did it really fall?

Zunaid
August 22, 2007, 07:58 PM
Fish ?


As always the answer is:


42

shujan
August 22, 2007, 08:44 PM
First chicken is a hybrid clone of an Emu and a pigeon with a hint of lemon pepper!

Fazal
August 22, 2007, 10:26 PM
CHICKEN or the EGG?

Neither. I think its you, Puck, who came first.

Tigers_eye
August 23, 2007, 08:16 AM
The first chicken's name was 'Puck'? Or Puck is a chicken? How does s/he type with his/her feathers?

Sohel
August 23, 2007, 12:00 PM
As always the answer is:


42

Right you are Z-Bhai. Great to hear from you again. Whatever happened to Deep Thought? Still in Magrathea you reckon? Now more deliberately misleading factoids on that pseudoperfect number.

42 (forty-two) is the natural number following 41 and preceding 43.

It is a composite number; its factorization makes it the second sphenic number and also the second of the form {2.3.r}. As with all sphenic numbers of this form the aliquot sum is abundant by 12. 42 is also the second sphenic number to be bracketed by twin primes; 30 also rests between two primes. 42 has a 14 member aliquot sequence 42, 54, 66, 78, 90, 144, 259, 45, 33, 15, 9, 4, 3, 1, 0 and is itself part of the aliquot sequence commencing with the first sphenic number 30. Further, 42 is the 10th member of the 3-aliquot tree.

42 is the product of the first three terms of Sylvester's sequence; like the first four such numbers it is also a primary pseudoperfect number.

It is the sum of the totient function for the first eleven integers.

It is a Catalan number.

It is the reciprocal of a Bernoulli number

It is conjectured to be the scaling factor in the leading order term of the "sixth moment of the Riemann zeta function". In particular, Conrey & Ghosh have conjectured


where the infinite product is over all prime numbers, p.

It is a pronic number, and the third 15-gonal number. It is a meandric number and an open meandric number.

42 is a perfect score on the USA Math Olympiad (USAMO) and International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO).

In base 10, this number is a Harshad number and a self number, while it is a repdigit in base 4 (as 222).

The eight digits of pi beginning from 242,422 places after the decimal point are 42424242.

The first digit (4) taken to the power of the second digit (2) is equal to the second digit (2) taken to the power of the first digit (4): 42 = 24 = 16. It follows clearly that 24 exhibits the same characteristic, and in fact 24 is the only other two-digit non-repdigit number that does. (All two-digit repdigit numbers exhibit this characteristic.)

Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_%28number%29

BanCricFan
August 23, 2007, 05:14 PM
Why Jewish people cant have Chicken and the egg together??

sunnyctg
August 23, 2007, 08:29 PM
Just thinking chicken or egg wont solve the problem. Like any other creature, chicken went through a very very long process of evolution. Million years ago chicken wasnt the chicken as we know now and it probably didnt useto lay eggs and probably went through some other reproductive method. But with time,it slowly changed its reproductive method to laying eggs to cope with nature...and after millions of years of evolution process , we have the chicken as we see now. ;)

Rabz
August 23, 2007, 10:33 PM
Why Jewish people cant have Chicken and the egg together??

you dont eat your investment out..do u...
but if u do,
leave the longterm future dividend component ....

in other words,
those jews are a smart bunch...

BD-Shardul
August 25, 2007, 10:04 AM
Allah subhanahu wa taala mentioned in the glorious Qur'an:

[Yaa-Seen 36:36] Purity is to Him Who created all pairs, from what the earth grows, and of themselves, and from the things they do not know.

According to this ayah, it is clear that Allah created every creatures in pairs, and chicken is no exception. So, chicken came first, then came the egg.

Simple as that, if you do not believe in evolution (like me).....

One World
August 25, 2007, 11:12 PM
Theologically u cannot give the trophy to egg. Scientifically you must. cause everything came from water where the first life was evolved in form of embryos and tiny little life forms. After all algae is older than cockroach.

Antora
August 26, 2007, 04:26 AM
well lets see......
long be4 humans lived there were dinosaurs!!! and one perticular dinosaur was like a bird.... and all birds are related to that dinosaur......and a chicken is a type of bird...
now the question comes where did that dinosaur come from??? well if u believe like i do.. allah created all creatures... so in this case i would say the dino came first but the chicken came from the egg!!!!

Nocturnal
August 26, 2007, 04:37 AM
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2006/05/26/chicken192.jpg ??????
...
....
......

http://www.seaserpentproductions.com/images/GodChickenEggOmelet_Design.jpg

Puck
August 26, 2007, 06:47 AM
is it possible to tie in evolution with creationism, in this case the islamic stance to it?

i notice that the renouned biologist present in the group as well as the physicists had not deemed this thread worth a response ;)

Hatebreed
August 26, 2007, 12:42 PM
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2006/05/26/chicken192.jpg ??????
...
....
......

http://www.seaserpentproductions.com/images/GodChickenEggOmelet_Design.jpg


We have a winner! :-D

One World
August 26, 2007, 08:33 PM
Aristotle: "If there has been a first man he must have been born without father or mother -- which is repugnant to nature. For there could not have been a first egg to give a beginning to birds, or there should have been a first bird which gave a beginning to eggs; for a bird comes from an egg."

Plutarch:
<DD>"...the problem about the egg and the hen, which of them came first, was dragged into our talk, a difficult problem which gives investigators much trouble. And Sulla my comrade said that with a small problem, as with a tool, we were rocking loose a great and heavy one, that of the creation of the world" </DD>

sunnyctg
August 26, 2007, 09:17 PM
i notice that the renouned biologist present in the group as well as the physicists had not deemed this thread worth a response ;)

hehe well some people did response possible scientific answers. But accepting scientific explaination threatens the supernatural believes that people have. It all leads back to the ultimate qs doesnt it ;). But as a personal preference I find the following advice of Thomas Jefferson, a great political philosopher,very moving:

"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which
weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in
her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every
opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a
God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

BD-Shardul
August 27, 2007, 01:04 AM
is it possible to tie in evolution with creationism, in this case the islamic stance to it?

i notice that the renouned biologist present in the group as well as the physicists had not deemed this thread worth a response ;)

Puck Bhai, Go through it please Link (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=13016)
Good Luck ;)

GuruTM
August 28, 2007, 03:15 AM
Not the chicken, nor the egg. Its the rooster.

Sohel
August 30, 2007, 11:11 AM
I got it ! It's the ... chegg ???

(Italian "ch")

Ahmed_B
August 30, 2007, 01:26 PM
Just might help you guys solve the riddle...!

http://home.netcom.com/~swansont/Afteryou.jpg

http://www.savagechickens.com/images/chickensoldier.jpg

http://www.londonstimes.us/toons/cartoons/joel_chicken_or_egg.gif

http://www.rfidjournal.com/ezimagecatalogue/catalogue/phpKPtOru.jpg

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/gth0103l.jpg

shaad
August 30, 2007, 01:53 PM
is it possible to tie in evolution with creationism, in this case the islamic stance to it?

i notice that the renouned biologist present in the group as well as the physicists had not deemed this thread worth a response ;)

There's a famous biologist here? I should chat and trade stories with him/her ;) Seriously, I think Rubu expressed the biologists' perspective perfectly in this issue.

Puck
August 30, 2007, 02:03 PM
There's a famous biologist here? I should chat and trade stories with him/her ;) Seriously, I think Rubu expressed the biologists' perspective perfectly in this issue.

if not famous perhaps eminent ;)
anyway, what took you so long to notice this thread?!?

ammark
August 30, 2007, 03:25 PM
Just might help you guys solve the riddle...!




:floor::floor: hilarious :floor::floor:. Beshi jouse

Puck
August 30, 2007, 04:20 PM
there i was under the impression that this is a g rated forum ;)