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Sohel
October 11, 2007, 08:17 AM
Check THIS (http://www.kalemat.anwaar.net/eng/sgn/dt/sgn-02.htm) out ... :)

Excerpt-

1. The Quran does not only portray its miracles through it words, but even by the way it was constructed by God Almighty. By using the graphs below we can understand how even 'the number a of chapter" and the "amount of verses per chapter" create a scatter graph, which is a bunch of points on a graph.

On the x-axis we illustrate the number of the chapter in the Quran, for example in Surah "Al-Imran", the number of the chapter is 3. At the same time the y-axis refers to the "total" number of ayas per chapter/surah, in this case Surah Al-Imran has 200 verses/ayas. Therefore the coordinate of Surah Al-Imran is (3,200) from the equation (x,y).

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/7c2a94b65f.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

2. Here we can see that the scatter graph forms the name of God Almighty (Allah الله). Each point reflects a different Surah, for example as we mentioned prior Surah Al- Imran is seen here as (3,200). The other points are the remaining 113 Chapters of the total 114 Chapters in the Quran.

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/ce3f77a9e6.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

3. In this graph we can see that the scatter graph forms the name of the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh&hf) (محمد). Again the points all correspond to the Surahs of the Quran. Although in this graph it is apparent that the name of God and the name of the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh&hf) are overlapping in the same spot, for example Surah Al-Fatiha is the tip of the Alif in Allah, and at the same time it defines "ha" in Mohammed.

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/cb8b064f9b.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Overwhelming proof to some.

Skepticism despite the overwhelming proof for others.

A stretch where the 'input' meets the 'expectation' to many.

Personally, I just think it's COOL ... :)

Mohiul
October 11, 2007, 08:53 AM
How do you find this type of awesome efforts? Always surfing net? may be, you are 24 hours net surfer, aren't you, Sohel bhai?

Hatebreed
October 11, 2007, 09:16 AM
Thanks for sharing this truly amazing find.

Alien
October 11, 2007, 09:24 AM
Thanks for sharing this truly amazing find.

Sohel,

If not, you are a world class researcher. Brilliant work man. Thanks for sharing your finds with us. Cheers.

Alien
October 11, 2007, 09:28 AM
Btw, any chance that other prophets name may show similar effect on scatterplot? For example, I think Prophet Isa(peace be upon him) was mention many times too and also his mother Mary (peace be upon her).

Just thought of that possiblity.

Tigers_eye
October 11, 2007, 12:00 PM
Cool it is!! Very skill full.
Sohel,

If not, you are a world class researcher. Brilliant work man. Thanks for sharing your finds with us. Cheers.
He didn't get his PhD for nothing!!

Fazal
October 11, 2007, 12:11 PM
Cool it is!! Very skill full.

He didn't get his PhD for nothing!!

He has a PhD in Religion or releted field ? Hmmm now it make sense...

Tigers_eye
October 11, 2007, 12:24 PM
My dear Dr. Fazal,
No one is as capable as you here at BC in doing research on any topic. Everyone else's reseach lacks the visual impact that your's have.

abdulw11
October 11, 2007, 01:23 PM
Wow, that's so cool.

A timely find, as Ramadan ends, and Eid celebrations begin.

Sohel
October 11, 2007, 09:01 PM
Btw, any chance that other prophets name may show similar effect on scatterplot? For example, I think Prophet Isa(peace be upon him) was mention many times too and also his mother Mary (peace be upon her).

Just thought of that possiblity.

Bro,

Thank you for that thought.

The way I see it, the numbers can be endlessly rearranged in terms of different theoretical sets and permutations and combinations therein. The introduction of a 'z' axis, not to mention neat 3D angular variations can bring about an incredible variety with regards to groups of points which can be constructed into an infinite number of images, signs and other constructs. Think of the spontaneous order and patterns our minds create when we look at the night sky filled with stars, or a Jackson Pollock painting and other such works of 'abstarct' art ... :)

That said, it is indeed VERY COOL that two of the simplest grouping on the 'xy' axis enable us to connect the peripheral points and come up with Allah الله and Mohammed محمد.

Peace, Sohel.

Sohel
October 11, 2007, 09:21 PM
Cool it is!! Very skill full.

He didn't get his PhD for nothing!!

Sadly, no PhD here Mijan ... just a couple of MS degrees - one which I was coerced into by the F100 company I worked for 10 years. I'd love to return that degree in exchange for something in traditional Islamic theology in Morocco, or perhaps American, Latin American, Central European, Japanese, Classical Arabic or Farsi literature. Then again, studying discrete mathematics or one of the hard sciences, preferably theoretical physics or anything to do with the Human Genome Project would’ve been great too.

Chasing personal demons and studying psychology after the BS was useful. But later chasing money by studying specialized marketing and business development strategy, not to mention resource and assets allocation tidbits was a colossal waste of time despite the money ... :sigh:

Anyway, I'm flattered by your impression ... :)

Peace, Sohel.

Nafis_BD
October 11, 2007, 09:53 PM
This is amazing.
Sohel bhaiya I just have three words for you. You are brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sohel
October 11, 2007, 09:58 PM
This is amazing.
Sohel bhaiya I just have three words for you. You are brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peace Nafis,

Very kind sentiments there bro and thank you for those, but all I did was find the stuff and post it here. If you're interested in true brilliance, look no further than what you can become, my kind and humble young brother. To quote my fellow traveler Ayani: "humility and submission are dearer than credentials". However, Shaad is a very good place to start when it comes to all three ... :)

Tigers_eye
October 12, 2007, 10:10 AM
Sadly, no PhD here Mijan ...

Anyway, I'm flattered by your impression ... :)

Peace, Sohel.
With the power bestowed upon me I give you a PhD here at BC. Them certifiactes given by the universities mean very little to me anyways. All this time I had been handing out MBA degrees at the UoP. ;)

Kabir
October 12, 2007, 10:57 AM
All this time I had been handing out MBA degrees at the UoP. ;)

Mijan bhai, I really thought you're b/w 30 to 40. Now I have a feeling that you're b/w 50 and 60.

Konta thik? :)

Fazal
October 12, 2007, 11:32 AM
Mijan bhai, I really thought you're b/w 30 to 40. Now I have a feeling that you're b/w 50 and 60.

Konta thik? :)

Don't under estimate Tigers_eye's age....he spends his time with Govornors and Sentors and Presidents.... you need time ( i.e. age) to create those types of connections you know....


All I did was talked to the Governor for a minute or so.

Tigers_eye
October 12, 2007, 11:43 AM
Mijan bhai, I really thought you're b/w 30 to 40. Now I have a feeling that you're b/w 50 and 60.

Konta thik? :)
Duitai bhul. I got stuck at 27. Haven't aged at all after that. Just the joints hurt a little nowadays. (bat'er betha monay hoi).

Fazal bhai,
President ektu beshi hoiye galo. baki shob think asey.

Sorry for the off topic paachal. We need to get back to the topic now.

al Furqaan
October 15, 2007, 05:53 PM
http://www.islam-exposed.org/index.htm

a few years ago, our imam told us of a book written by an arab christian. he was responding to the challenge in the quran to reproduce even a single ayat like the quran. he wrote a book called "al furqaanul haq" (the true criterion).

i looked it up, and its quite a laugh riot. first of all, its a complete copycat borrowing phrases out of the quran left, right, and center.

further, it is expounding christian doctrine which means the book is self contradictory since the writer cannot claim that it was divine revelation.

rubel_18
October 15, 2007, 06:20 PM
wow amazing that is, thanx a lot for dat Sohel bhai

al Furqaan
October 7, 2011, 06:58 PM
the link is dead...any other place we can find it?