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Ajfar
October 29, 2007, 10:30 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o-8ANrwJ6Vg

Kabir
October 29, 2007, 11:09 PM
Bhaijan, ghumanor aage eishob dekhan.

Shahriyar sure kalke sick call kortese ;)

layperson
October 29, 2007, 11:14 PM
Bhaijan, ghumanor aage eishob dekhan.

Shahriyar sure kalke sick call kortese ;)

:floor::floor::floor::floor: Ami je eto boro bhitu eita pura public e choray dila !!!!!:-p

Nasif
October 29, 2007, 11:15 PM
Is it supposed to be a joke? lol.

I am not sure if I should laugh at the display or at the youtube poster who posted " Its a real jin in a mosque. The video is taken from pakitan. Olease comment".

No wonder Pakistan is in so much mess. When you have people who fall for these type of tricks, that makes me think there might just be no light at the end of tunnel for that country.

Antora
October 30, 2007, 02:58 AM
aha! and people expect me to believe this?... the thing is i dont even believe in jinz or gohst or any of that stuff!... i live by things that are actually scientifically proven!

Orpheus
October 30, 2007, 03:13 AM
aha! and people expect me to believe this?... the thing is i dont even believe in jinz or gohst or any of that stuff!... i live by things that are actually scientifically proven!

I guess you don't believe in Islam then... but tomar post-e ja poriman inshallah, alhamudillah and bunch of other "Allahs" dekha jai, tate to mone hoi tumi pach wakhhhhhTT namaz poro...

Orpheus
October 30, 2007, 03:14 AM
btw, I totally think that's a Jinn though.....lol...

and you guys should watch the video that I posted in the youtube video thread.. about ackhmed! I watched it 10x, still I can't get enough of it.

Antora
October 30, 2007, 03:16 AM
I guess you don't believe in Islam then... but tomar post-e ja poriman inshallah, alhamudillah and bunch of other "Allahs" dekha jai, tate to mone hoi tumi pach wakhhhhhTT namaz poro...

lol! i do belive in islam.. and i do pray.. i just dont belive in jins..even though apparently a jin haunted my chachu or something like that.. and i was present at the time. But since i didnt see it im not gonna belive there is something called a jin!

Orpheus
October 30, 2007, 03:29 AM
Hey antora, there is actually a chapter about Jinn in the Quran. So I don't think you can be a selective believer.

Though I agree with you, I also have my doubts. The kajer lady in our grandparents house was frequently haunted by jinn and ppl used to beat the crap out of her in order to get the jinn out... It's really scary. I think she was just crazy though. But after she was moved to another house in city, it never happened.. So I don't know! I mean if you are crazy, you would be crazy anywhere... it's not like stress level in village is higher...triggering the symptoms.. she grew up in village.

Antora
October 30, 2007, 03:33 AM
yer.. my mum was just telling me about the whole jin thing !! they could be real but i still have my doubts!...

zahid
October 30, 2007, 05:17 AM
I am in between the decison to watch or not to watch...

Orpheus
October 30, 2007, 05:34 AM
I am in between the decison to watch or not to watch...
You should watch it... that jinn reminds me of you... doing nachanachi in middle of serious stuff (ie prayers)

zahid
October 30, 2007, 06:23 AM
You should watch it... that jinn reminds me of you... doing nachanachi in middle of serious stuff (ie prayers)

That didn't make sense.

Orpheus
October 30, 2007, 06:31 AM
That didn't make sense.

sheita amar dosh?

Anher
October 30, 2007, 07:18 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V5C-VZN-lZQ

Check this out......Looks real...

Kabir
October 30, 2007, 08:47 AM
You should watch it... that jinn reminds me of you... doing nachanachi in middle of serious stuff (ie prayers)

:floor:
Orphy back to his same old form.

Anyway, even though I believe in jins (yes it's part of Islam), but I don't personally think that a jin would let himself get video taped or something. Oh well, if it's really a jin, it's good that we've seen him/her first hand :D

Ehsan
October 30, 2007, 10:32 AM
Ofcourse, I believe in Jinns but I don't think they come across people as often as people exaggerate. This one is defnitely not jinn.

Check out the one I_K_U posted, there is some factor of acceptance there. But I highly doubt what the Imam is doing is right or if there is similar acceptable practice in Islam to get rid of Jinns. However, it somehow apprears like dual personality syndrome or some personality disorder. I have seen similar stuff in BD when people termed it "Jinn-er ashor" and I see the exact same thing in I_K_U's video. So, again I also doubt if it is some personality disorder. Heck, there is all sorts of doubts here.

Hatebreed
October 30, 2007, 11:11 AM
I believe in jinns, but I don't believe that's a jinn. It could be a snake in a bag, like there was once at the mosque my friend goes to (in London). I've heard way too many stories about jinn posession, I've posted a story or two here even, I just don't think people should believe in everything they see on a Youtube video.

akabir77
October 30, 2007, 11:29 AM
Is it supposed to be a joke? lol.

I am not sure if I should laugh at the display or at the youtube poster who posted " Its a real jin in a mosque. The video is taken from pakitan. Olease comment".

No wonder Pakistan is in so much mess. When you have people who fall for these type of tricks, that makes me think their might just be no light at the end of tunnel for that country.

SO Nasif bhai you don't see any light for Paki's then Do you see any light for USA people who tries to discover UFO:lol::lol::lol:

Nasif
October 30, 2007, 11:41 AM
SO Nasif bhai you don't see any light for Paki's then Do you see any light for USA people who tries to discover UFO:lol::lol::lol:

Well, the difference is you don't find a mosque full of armed guys with all sorts of weapons in the heart of a city!

Occasional wackos are ok; but when it reaches a critical mass then its a troubling news.

Rabz
October 30, 2007, 12:00 PM
I believe in Jinns. Its been stated in the Holy Quran about their existence.
and like many, did also hear story or two from some reliable sources...
havent encountared myself yet...

but that video was.... dissapointing!! for all i know, it could hv bn anything!!

zahid
October 30, 2007, 04:42 PM
SO Nasif bhai you don't see any light for Paki's then Do you see any light for USA people who tries to discover UFO:lol::lol::lol:

Haishen na bhai.

THE TRUTH IS STILL OUT THERE .

RazabQ
October 30, 2007, 04:55 PM
Well, the difference is you don't find a mosque full of armed guys with all sorts of weapons in the heart of a city!

Occasional wackos are ok; but when it reaches a critical mass then its a troubling news.How'd you describe Waco (TX)? :) Sorry coudn't resist the pun :)

Nafis_BD
October 30, 2007, 10:22 PM
I do believe in Jinns but I do not believe either of those two videos. I remember when my younger uncle(Chotto mama) told me a true story of my older uncle(mejho mama) being attacked by 10-15 guys in the night when he went to feed their pet or something. He had a jinn who followed him everywhere and protected him everywhere and that jinn saved his life as the guys were going to kill him but suddenly a stones started falling on everyone house in the neighbourhood(it was like raining stones) and woke everyone up. My uncle survived with only one jab with the knife near his neck, and the guys ran away as people came out from Their home. This jinn saved my uncle's life a couple of times. This happened when he was in his home in Chittagong but there was an incident by my place in Dhaka and I was with him that day. This is a true story and I could share a lot more of these but I don't think this is the appropriate place to share all those.

Nirjhar
October 31, 2007, 07:02 PM
I don't see any jinn, I see only jainamaj.

israr
November 1, 2007, 05:59 AM
Jinns do exist, and anyone denying this, is actually indirectly denying the Word of Quran.

Nirjhar
November 6, 2007, 01:30 PM
Jinns do exist. Probably they are in different dimention than us. That is why we don't see them.

Omio
November 6, 2007, 04:38 PM
Jin er r kam kaj nai, oi lok tare video korbo r jin vai bose thakbo, sunchi jin naki echha korle manus ke e des theke onno dese e niye jai..lol

Ajfar
November 6, 2007, 05:36 PM
Jin er r kam kaj nai, oi lok tare video korbo r jin vai bose thakbo, sunchi jin naki echha korle manus ke e des theke onno dese e niye jai..lol

sob shunaa kothai kan dawa valo na..

Orpheus
November 7, 2007, 01:30 AM
Jin er r kam kaj nai, oi lok tare video korbo r jin vai bose thakbo, sunchi jin naki echha korle manus ke e des theke onno dese e niye jai..lol

haha...

Ekta shotti kotha boili. Ami ekbar ekta maiya Jinn dhorchilam.... tarpor e ki hoiche ei golpota ekhane bolle ami instantly banned hoye jabo... SO I rather not.

Sohel
November 7, 2007, 03:09 AM
I invite all interested to take the time and read Chapter 72 or AL-JINN from the Holy Quran.

Among other things, the Chapter as the words of GOD revealed to His Messenger (PBUH) provides clear insights into the true nature of Monotheism, and the subsequent creed governing our "willful submission" to GOD in light of unseen things.

The Chapter also provides a of set clear instructions to His Messenger (PBUH) to be conveyed to us by his own example, and also what distinguishes the Messenger (PBUH) from others when it comes to Divine revelations from the past as well as the future in 72:27.

Peace, Sohel ... :)

AL-JINN (THE UNSEEN BEINGS)

THE SEVENTY-SECOND SURAH
Total Verses: 28
MECCA PERIOD

REVEALED not later than during the last two years of the Prophet's sojourn in Mecca, this surah takes its name from the plural noun al-jinn in the first verse.

IN THE NAME OF GOD, THE MOST GRACIOUS, THE DISPENSER OF GRACE:

72:1 Say: "It has been inspired to me that a group of Jinn were listening." (1) They said: "We have heard a magnificent compilation!"

72:2 "It guides to what is correct, so we believed in it, and we will not set up anyone with our Lord."

72:3 "And exalted is the majesty of our Lord, He has not taken a wife nor a son."

72:4 "And it was the foolish one amongst us who used to say lies about God." (2)

72:5 "And we had thought that neither mankind nor the Jinn would ever utter a lie against God." (3)

72:6 "And there were men from among mankind who used to seek help from the men among the Jinn, but they only helped increase them in sin." (4)

72:7 "And they thought as you thought, that God would not send anyone." (5)

72:8 "And we touched the heavens, (6) but found it full of powerful guards and projectiles." (7)

72:9 "And we used to sit in it in places of listening, (8) but anyone who sits now finds a projectile seeking him." (9)

72:10 "And we do not know, is it bad that is intended for those on Earth, or does their Lord want them to be guided?" (10)

72:11 "And among us are those who are good doers, and some of us are opposite to that, we are in many paths."

72:12 "And we acknowledge that we cannot escape God on Earth, nor can we escape Him if we run."

72:13 "And when we heard the guidance, we believed in it. So whoever believes in his Lord, then he will not fear a decrease in reward, nor a burdensome punishment."

72:14 And among us are those who submitted, and among us are the compromisers. As for those who have submitted, they have sought what is correct.

72:15 And as for the compromisers, they are firewood for Hell. (11)

72:16 And had they walked on the right path, We would have provided them with abundant water. (12)

72:17 To test them with it. And whosoever turns away from the remembrance of his Lord, He will enter him a severe retribution. (13)

72:18 And the temples are for God, (14) so do not call on anyone alongside God.

72:19 And when God's servant stood up to call on Him, they nearly banded to oppose him. (15)

72:20 Say: "I only call on my Lord, and I do not associate anyone with Him."

72:21 Say: "I have no power to cause you harm nor to show you what is right."

72:22 Say: "No one can protect me from God, and I will not find any refuge except with Him."

72:23 It is but an announcement from God, and His messages. (16) And whosoever disobeys God and His messenger, then he will have the fire of Hell to dwell eternally therein. (17)

72:24 Until they see what they are promised, (18) then they will know who has the weakest ally and is least in number. (19)

72:25 Say: "I do not know if what you are promised is near, or if my Lord will make it distant."

72:26 The knower of the unseen, He does not reveal His knowledge to anyone. (20)

72:27 Except to whom He has accepted as a messenger, (21) then He reveals from the past and the future. (22)

72:28 So that He knows that they have delivered the messages of their Lord, and He surrounds all that is with them, (23) and He has counted the number of all things.

Notes by Muhammad Asad (http://www.geocities.com/masad02/072.html#072.C.010)

1. I.e., had heard and accepted it: this being the meaning, in the above context, of the verbal form istama’a. - As regards the various meanings attributable to the plural noun jinn (rendered by me here as "unseen beings"), see Appendix III. As pointed out there, the jinn are referred to in the Qur'an in many connotations. In a few cases - e.g., in the present instance and in 46:29-32 - this expression may possibly signify "hitherto unseen beings", namely, strangers who had never before been seen by the people among and to whom the Qur'an was then being revealed. From 46:30 (which evidently relates to the same occurrence as the present one) it transpires that the jinn in question were followers of the Mosaic faith, inasmuch as they refer to the Qur'an as "a revelation bestowed from on high after [that of] Moses", thus pointedly omitting any mention of the intervening prophet, Jesus, and equally pointedly (in verse 3 of the present surah) stressing their rejection of the Christian concept of the Trinity. All this leads one to the assumption that they may have been Jews from distant parts of what is now the Arab world, perhaps from Syria or even Mesopotamia. (Tabari mentions in several places that the jinn referred to in this surah as well as in 46:29 ff. hailed from Nasibin, a town on the upper reaches of the Euphrates.) I should, however, like to stress that my explanation of this occurrence is purely tentative.

2. If we accept the supposition that the beings spoken of here were Jewish strangers, the "outrageous things" (shatat) which they mention would appear to be an allusion to the deep-set belief of the Jews that they were "God's chosen people" - a belief which the Qur'an consistently rejects, and of which the new converts now divested themselves.

3. In this and the next verse, the term jinn (rendered here as "invisible forces") apparently refers to what is described as "occult powers'" or, rather to a person's preoccupation with them (see Appendix III). Irrespective of whether these "forces" are real or mere products of human imagination, they "tell lies about God" inasmuch as they induce their devotees to conceive all manner of fantastic, arbitrary notions about the "nature" of His Being and of His alleged relations with the created universe: notions exemplified in all mystery-religions, in the various gnostic and theosophical systems, in cabalistic Judaism, and in the many medieval offshoots of each of them.

4. Lit., "that men (rijal) from among the humans used to (kana) seek refuge with men from among the jinn". Since the reference to "the humans" (al-ins) applies to men and women, the expression rijal is obviously used here - as so often in the Qur'an - in the sense of "some persons" or "certain kinds" of people. "Seeking refuge" is synonymous with seeking help, protection or the satisfaction of physical or spiritual needs: in the context of the above passage, this is evidently an allusion to the hope of "certain kinds of humans" that the occult powers to which they have turned would successfully guide them through life, and thus make it unnecessary for them to look forward to the coming of a new prophet.

5. Thus Tabari (on the authority of Al-Kalbi) and Ibn Kathir. The overwhelming majority of the Jews were convinced that no prophet would be raised after those who were explicitly mentioned in the Old Testament: hence their rejection of Jesus and, of course, Muhammad, and their "reaching out towards heaven" (see next verse) in order to obtain a direct insight into God's plan of creation.

6. The above may be understood as alluding not only, metaphorically, to the arrogant Jewish belief in their being "God's chosen people", but also, more factually, to their old inclination to, and practice of, astrology as a means to foretell the future. Apart from this - and in a more general sense - their "reaching out towards heaven" may be a metaphorical description of a state of mind which causes man to regard himself as "self-sufficient" and to delude himself into thinking that he is bound to achieve mastery over his own fate.

7. See notes 16 and 17 on 15:17-18.

8. I.e., "we failed notwithstanding our status as descendants of Abraham, and despite all our ability and learning".

9. As the sequence shows (and as has been pointed out in note 17 on 15:18), this relates to all attempts at predicting the future by means of astrology or esoteric calculations, or at influencing the course of future events by means of "occult sciences".

10. Thus, as in verses 2 and 21 of this surah, "consciousness of what is right" (rashad or rushd) is equated with the opposite of evil fortune, i.e., with happiness.

11. With this assertion ends, according to all classical commentators, the "confession of faith" of the beings described at the beginning of this passage as jinn. Whatever be the real meaning of this term in the present instance - whether it signifies "unseen beings" of a nature unknown to man or, alternatively, a group of humans from distant lands - matters little, for the context makes it abundantly clear that the "speech" of those beings is but a parable of the guidance which the Qur'an offers to a mind intent on attaining to "consciousness of what is right".

12. Lit., "water abundant": a metaphor of happiness, echoing the allegorical reference, so frequently occurring in the Qur'an, to the "running waters" of paradise (Abu Muslim, quoted by Razi).

13. I.e., God's bestowal of blessings is not just a "reward" of righteousness but, rather, a test of man's remaining conscious of, and therefore grateful to, Him.

14. Lit, "the places of worship" (al-masajid): i.e., worship as such.

15. Lit, "would almost be upon him in crowds (libad, sing. libdah )" - i.e., with a view to "extinguishing God's [guiding] light" (Tabari, evidently alluding to 9:32). Most of the commentators assume that the above verse refers to the Prophet Muhammad and the hostility shown to him by his pagan contemporaries. While this may have been so in the first instance, it is obvious that the passage has a general import as well, alluding to the hostility shown by the majority of people, at all times and in all societies, to a minority or an individual who stands up for a self-evident - but unpopular - moral truth. (In order to be understood fully, the above verse should be read in conjunction with 19:73-74 and the corresponding notes.)

16. Lit., "except through an announcement" (illa balaghan). In this instance, however, the particle illa is evidently a contraction of in la ("if not"): thus, the above phrase signifies "if I do not [or "if should fail to"] convey. . .", etc. (Tabari, Zamakhshari, Razi).

17. This obviously relates to "those who are bent on denying the truth"- i.e., consciously - and thus destroy their own spiritual identity. The people alluded to in this particular instance are those who "would gladly overwhelm God's servant with their crowds" (verse 19).

18. I.e., on the Day of Judgment. Cf. the second paragraph of 19:75, which is similarly phrased.

19. Lit., "is weaker as to helpers and less in numbers" - i.e., less significant despite its greater numbers.

20. The possessive pronoun "His" in the phrase ala ghaybihi evidently indicates God exclusive knowledge of "that which is beyond the perception of any created being" (al-ghayb): hence the above, somewhat free, rendering of this truly untranslatable phrase.

21. Cf. 3:179 - "And it is not God's will to give you insight into that which is beyond the real of human perception: but [to that end] God elects whomsoever He wills from among His apostles".

22. For an explanation of this rendering of the phrase min bayni yadayhi wa-min khalfihi (lit., "from between his hands and from behind him"), see note 247 on 2:255. In the present context the phrase implies that the very fact of his being graced by divine revelation protects every apostle, spiritually, in all concerns of his life, irrespective of whether these concerns are obvious to him or are beyond his ken.

23. Lit., "all that is with them", i.e., of knowledge and wisdom.

LINK TO CHAPTER 72 (http://www.free-minds.org/quran/PM/72)

akabir77
November 16, 2007, 05:15 PM
ok here is another clip of a ghost or JIN caught on camera

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DJ Sahastra
November 16, 2007, 10:19 PM
I have seen many Jinns as a kid.

And a whole bunch of "Ojhas" (Jinn-busters) with peacock feathers ina bundle. I kinda liked the touch of that feather bundle.

Here is a typical conversation:

Ojha: Bol, Kisne Bheja hai Tujhe
Jinn (in the affected guy): ..... (usually an enemy/rival) Ne Bheja Hai
Ojha: Bol, Chhodke Jayega Ki Nahin
Jinn: Nahin
Ojha: To Le
(Ojha sprays some water or something that makes the guy wriggle as if his body is on fire and he starts to plead to Ojha to stop)
Ojha: Bol, Jata Hai Ki Nahin
Jinn: Jata Hoon
Ojha: Pehle Kasam Kha Fir Waapas Nahin Aayega
(Jinn/Guy stays mum and then Ojha sprinkles some more water with some verses)
Jinn: Khata Hoon .. Kasam Khata Hoon.. Fir Nahin Aaonga
Ojha: To Jaa
(And the guy collapses as if lifeless. Then he is woken up, cured. And Ojha collects his payments/rewards and all go home)