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One World
November 11, 2007, 01:32 AM
ALBANY, N.Y. - An infantryman charges a pillbox in the face of enemy fire. A firefighter rushes up the stairwell of a burning skyscraper as office workers flee. A teacher shields her student from a schoolyard gunman with her body.
Heroes all. But what personal qualities made them heroic?
In the movies, heroes are charismatic rebels played by the likes of Will Smith or Bruce Willis. But researchers who surveyed decorated World War II veterans found not all heroes are cut from the same swashbuckling cloth. Quiet types with a sense of loyalty and selflessness often have the right stuff, too.
"We often think of the gung-ho, John Wayne 'Sands of Iwo Jima' kind of hero driven to combat," said researcher Brian Wansink of Cornell University. "But there's a whole lot of these heroes that are much more along the lines of that Captain Miller character Tom Hanks played in 'Saving Private Ryan' — the reluctant high school English teacher."
In a paper to be published in the management-oriented journal The Leadership Quarterly, researchers asked 526 World War II veterans who experienced "heavy and frequent combat" to evaluate themselves on qualities such as leadership, loyalty, spontaneity and selflessness. There were 83 men in the group who received a medal for meritorious service or valor — either a Bronze Star, Silver Star, Distinguished Service Cross or Medal of Honor.
Unsurprisingly, veterans who had been awarded medals tended to rate themselves higher for qualities like leadership, adventurousness and adaptability. Results became more intriguing when researchers divided medal earners into two groups: those who enlisted ("eager heroes") and those who were drafted ("reluctant heroes"). The reluctant heroes scored higher than any other group in selflessness and working well with others.
The study suggests that quiet heroes rely on a deep sense of duty and esprit de corps as opposed to derring-do. That sentiment was echoed by several of the medal-earning veterans interviewed separately for this story.
To a man, they downplayed any notion of heroism.
"You show me a man who says he was brave over there and I'll show you a liar," said draftee and Bronze Star recipient William O. Carpenter, 84, of Champaign Ill. "Every one of us was afraid. Even the Germans were afraid."
Former paratrooper Charles Murz was shot at more times than he can recall after dropping behind enemy lines in Europe and earning two Bronze Stars. Now 83 and living in East China, Mich., he scoffs at the idea he showed any particular courage.
"Brave? Well, I don't know about that," Murz said. "I did what I had to do at the time that I did it."
Wansink said that understanding the range of heroic qualities can be useful to people who recruit and train soldiers, firefighters and police. A quietly respectful student might be able to distinguish herself as much as the extroverted high school quarterback.
Wansink also said the study underscores the effectiveness of team building in hazardous jobs, be it partnering police officers, having firefighters live together or organizing troops into units.
"A hand grenade falls on the floor and leads you to do something other than if you didn't know who these guys were and didn't have a commitment to them," he said.
That sort of loyalty effect has been noted before, famously by the late author Stephen E. Ambrose, who even named one of his books about World War II combat troops "Band of Brothers." Writing in "Citizen Soldiers" of the men who liberated Europe, he noted: "What held them together was not country and flag, but unit cohesion."
"I did it because it was expected of me," said 88-year-old Marcel Leschot, of Indianapolis, Ill, a Bronze Star recipient. "You never thought of your own preservation."
Source>> (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21725468/)
How many such heros of 1971 still make hand to mouth living in Bangladesh.:notworthy:

November 11, 2007, 03:35 AM
The villians usually make the most noice. :)

One World
November 11, 2007, 04:07 AM
The villians usually make the most noice. :)

Bir Sreshtho

Engineroom Artificer (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Engineroom_Artificer&action=edit) Ruhul Amin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Ruhul_Amin)
Captain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain) Mohiuddin Jahangir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohiuddin_Jahangir)
Sepoy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepoy) Mostafa Kamal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostafa_Kamal)
Sepoy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepoy) Hamidur Rahman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamidur_Rahman)
Flight Lieutenant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_Lieutenant) Matiur Rahman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matiur_Rahman_%28military_pilot%29)
Lance Naik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Naik) Munshi Abdur Rouf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munshi_Abdur_Rouf)
Lance Naik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Naik) Nur Mohammad Sheikh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur_Mohammad_Sheikh)
[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Recipients_of_Bangladeshi_military _awards_in_1971&action=edit&section=2)] Bir Uttom

<TABLE class=wikitable><TBODY><TR><TH>No.</TH><TH>NAME</TH><TH>SECTOR</TH><TH>RANK</TH></TR><TR><TD>01</TD><TD>Abdur Rob (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abdur_Rob&action=edit)</TD><TD>Army chief, AHQ</TD><TD>Lieutenant Colonel</TD></TR><TR><TD>02</TD><TD>K M Shafiullah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_M_Shafiullah)</TD><TD>Commander, S Force</TD><TD>Major</TD></TR><TR><TD>03</TD><TD>Ziaur Rahman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziaur_Rahman)</TD><TD>Commander, Z Force</TD><TD>Major</TD></TR><TR><TD>04</TD><TD>Chittoronjon Datta (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chittoronjon_Datta&action=edit)</TD><TD>Sector Commander-04</TD><TD>major</TD></TR><TR><TD>05</TD><TD>Kazi Nuruzzaman (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kazi_Nuruzzaman&action=edit)</TD><TD>Sector Commander-07</TD><TD>Major</TD></TR><TR><TD>06</TD><TD>Mir Showkat Ali (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mir_Showkat_Ali&action=edit)</TD><TD>Sector Commander-05</TD><TD>Major</TD></TR><TR><TD>07</TD><TD>Khaled Mosharraf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaled_Mosharraf)</TD><TD>Commander, K Force</TD><TD>Major</TD></TR><TR><TD>08</TD><TD>Abdul Manzur (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abdul_Manzur&action=edit)</TD><TD>Sector Commander-08</TD><TD>Major</TD></TR><TR><TD>09</TD><TD>Abu Taher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Taher)</TD><TD>Sector Commander-11</TD><TD>Major (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major)</TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>A N M Nuruzzaman (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A_N_M_Nuruzzaman&action=edit)</TD><TD>Sector Commander-03</TD><TD>Captain</TD></TR><TR><TD>11</TD><TD>Rafiqul Islam,1971 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rafiqul_Islam%2C1971&action=edit)</TD><TD>Sector Commander-01</TD><TD>Captain</TD></TR><TR><TD>12</TD><TD>Abdus Salek Choudhury (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abdus_Salek_Choudhury&action=edit)</TD><TD>Sector Commander-02</TD><TD>Captain</TD></TR><TR><TD>13</TD><TD>Aminul Haque (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aminul_Haque&action=edit)</TD><TD>Commander, 8 East Bengal</TD><TD>Major</TD></TR><TR><TD>14</TD><TD>Khaja Nijam Uddin (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khaja_Nijam_Uddin&action=edit),Martyr</TD><TD>Sector-04</TD><TD>Leader Public Force/Gano Bahini</TD></TR><TR><TD>15</TD><TD>A K Khandker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_K_Khandker)</TD><TD>Deputy Chief of Command</TD><TD>Group Captain</TD></TR><TR><TD>16</TD><TD>Shahjahan Omar (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shahjahan_Omar&action=edit)</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD></TR><TR><TD>17</TD><TD>Kader Siddique (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kader_Siddique)</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD></TR><TR><TD>18</TD><TD>Liakat Ali Khan (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liakat_Ali_Khan&action=edit)</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD></TR><TR><TD>19</TD><TD>Shahabuddin Ahmed, 1971 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shahabuddin_Ahmed%2C_1971&action=edit)</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD></TR><TR><TD>20</TD><TD>Anwar Hossain Pahari (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anwar_Hossain_Pahari&action=edit)</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>-</TD></TR><TR><TD>21</TD><TD>Aftab Ali</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>Subedar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subedar)</TD></TR><TR><TD>22</TD><TD>Motiur Rahman</TD><TD>-</TD><TD>Lieutenant Colonel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieutenant_Colonel)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Just found those names in Wikipedia. Unfortunately although I know all the stories of Bir Shreshtho, few or none of the stories I can recall about our Bir Uttoms. Slowly the bandwagon of the anti-war chapters has made the mainstream melancholy completely inaudible.

November 11, 2007, 06:22 AM
The villians usually make the most noice. :)

Tehsin is right, vary clevar.

November 11, 2007, 06:27 AM
Tehsin is right, vary clevar.

lol, or should I say lal.

November 11, 2007, 06:37 AM
lol, or should I say lal.
If it's quiet funny, you should quitely laugh, not lough anally loud.

November 11, 2007, 07:34 AM
If it's quiet funny, you should quitely laugh, not lough anally loud.

LMAO!! is anally a word?

November 11, 2007, 08:33 AM
is anally a word?


a·nal <script>play_w("A0277300")</script><object style="margin: 3px 3px 5px;" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0" height="13" width="10">

<embed style="margin-bottom: 4px;" src="http://img.tfd.com/play.swf" flashvars="soundpath=http://img.tfd.com/hm/mp3/A0277300" menu="false" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" height="13" width="10"></object> (http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/amacr.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifnhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifl)adj.1. Of, relating to, or near the anus.
2. Psychology a. Of or relating to the second stage of psychosexual development in psychoanalytic theory, roughly from ages one to three, during which gratification is derived from sensations associated with the anus and defecation. The anal stage is preceded by the oral stage and followed by the phallic stage.
b. Indicating personality traits that originated during toilet training and are distinguished as anal-expulsive or anal-retentive.

<hr class="hmshort" align="left">[From Latin <tt>http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/amacr.gifnus</tt>, anus.]
<hr class="hmshort" align="left">ahttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifnal·ly adv.

So LAL - or Laughing anally loud would translate to "hashte hashte haiga dichi"

Some other uses,
that's an anally-expulsive laughter - Bangla: Kubhi ekta Otto Hashi
You could also say, that's an anally-retentive laughter - Bangla: Bah! ki Chipa Hashi

November 11, 2007, 08:38 AM
wow, orpheus bro, uve done ur homework!! :notworthy: u shud get a phd pn the anus region!!

November 11, 2007, 08:44 AM
apology to One World for robbing the thread. I agree with you and the research is an interesting one. However, the Bir Shresto you've named should not fall under quiet heroes, because they are captains and majors. Quiet heroes are the regular people of villages, who keep themselves distant from politics and what not but took up arms when their country and family needed protection.

One World
November 11, 2007, 11:58 AM
apology to One World for robbing the thread. I agree with you and the research is an interesting one. However, the Bir Shresto you've named should not fall under quiet heroes, because they are captains and majors. Quiet heroes are the regular people of villages, who keep themselves distant from politics and what not but took up arms when their country and family needed protection.

Apology accepted. Whether the user exceeded the limit or not mods can decide. But going back to your question about quiet heroes who are quite heroes also, yes the village people indeed but what about the government employee in Dhaka who risked his job, life and family to protect the unknown freedom fighter or the number of officers stranded in then the West who escaped their cozy life in the army camps (unlike Ershad) took their unrosy venture through the borders of India to join the forces. Every contribution deserves a reward and we are always as a nation stupid enough to bear the credit to the wrong people.