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Miraz
November 22, 2007, 06:14 PM
From BBC,
US storm over book on Israel lobby

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</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- E IIMA --> The power of America's "Jewish lobby" is said to be legendary.
Commentators the world over refer to it, as though it were a well-established fact that US Jews wield far more influence than their numbers (2% of the population) would suggest.
But this presumed influence is also a delicate issue in the US, and is rarely analysed.
How does the lobby work? Is its power truly legendary, or just a legend?
Two US academics, John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen Walt of Harvard, have set out to answer those questions, and triggered a firestorm of controversy as a result.
Their book The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, which builds on a 2006 article in the London Review of Books, says the reasons for US support for Israel need to be explained. <!-- S IBOX --> <table align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="208"> <tbody><tr> <td width="5">http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif</td> <td class="sibtbg"> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif [Many critics] tried to smear us by either saying or hinting that we are anti-Semitic http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif


Stephen Walt

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<!-- S ILIN --> Mearsheimer/Walt interview (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7104252.stm)
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America spends $3bn a year in largely military assistance - one-sixth of its direct aid budget - to help a prosperous, nuclear-armed country, and strongly backs Israel in negotiations on Middle East peace.
But according to Mearsheimer and Walt, the US gets remarkably little in return.
They reject the argument that Israel is a key ally in America's "war on terror".
On the contrary, they contend, US patronage of Israel fuels militant anger - as well as fostering resentment in Arab countries that control vital oil supplies.



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Pundit
November 22, 2007, 08:26 PM
So what now...

tonoy
November 22, 2007, 08:58 PM
get out your torches!

cricket_pagol
November 22, 2007, 11:07 PM
thanks for the link Miraz bhai

ammark
November 23, 2007, 03:51 AM
was watching the BBC Hardtalk interview of one of the authors a few days ago. Good stuff.

Alien
November 29, 2007, 09:16 AM
Thats what I call bagher bachha. Finally some one stood up and said "its WRONG". With $3 bn invested in right place, they could have rebuild Africa 10 times over instead dumping money on this war mongering nation that infests on sympathy and make nukes without having the balls to declare them.

I said this in few places, but its near impossible to argue with zionist/Israeli/pro-israeli Jews for 2 reasons.

1) They will label you anti semetic and walk away
2) They will always draw up their biblical root to the land even though they dont follow 9/10 of the book.

Tigers_eye
November 29, 2007, 10:25 AM
From a Muslim stand point, how much power does these lobbiest have? Heck the Americans, Europeans, Israelis combined have? Next to nothing if we believe in one God. In reality we do not believe in God (by heart and soul), otherwise he would be with us and victory for us would be certain.

cricket_pagol
November 29, 2007, 11:24 AM
From a Muslim stand point, how much power does these lobbiest have? Heck the Americans, Europeans, Israelis combined have? Next to nothing if we believe in one God. In reality we do not believe in God (by heart and soul), otherwise he would be with us and victory for us would be certain.

the practical manifestation of this is that Muslim leaders who have money are not smart and visionary. We should blame ourselves for not being able to unite under one banner and having a strong political voice. God has given us the ability to help ourselves, if we cannot do it, nobody will be able to help us.

cricket_pagol
November 29, 2007, 11:28 AM
Thats what I call bagher bachha. Finally some one stood up and said "its WRONG". With $3 bn invested in right place, they could have rebuild Africa 10 times over instead dumping money on this war mongering nation that infests on sympathy and make nukes without having the balls to declare them.

I said this in few places, but its near impossible to argue with zionist/Israeli/pro-israeli Jews for 2 reasons.

1) They will label you anti semitic and walk away
2) They will always draw up their biblical root to the land even though they dont follow 9/10 of the book.

I think we do the same when somebody writes something against our religion or prophet.