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Navarene
November 26, 2007, 09:51 AM
The first US naval ship "USS Kearsarge" is now in Bangladesh coastal territory to deliver food and medical supplies for the Cyclone Sidr victims. A second ship, the USS Essex, would arrive in coming days for the "same" reason.

Do you support and welcome the US naval troops in our territory in the name of relief (considering the fact that the arrival of the US troop to a country's territory for whatever heaven's sake is always controversial)?

abdulw11
November 26, 2007, 12:21 PM
As long as they're helping the victims, then why not?

Nasif
November 26, 2007, 12:38 PM
I would even welcome even if there are some "other" reasons. For a country like BD, there is no point in going against US interest. It is better for us to align ourselves with the US interest in the region. That is how we can strengthen ourselves.

Fazal
November 26, 2007, 12:41 PM
Sorry to burst the baloon.

Why we need to find negative out of every thing?

We (our nation) are trying our best, but strugling to address this huge task which is understandable. Now if US naval troop's effort save a single life, give food to a hungry single person, why should we complain at this time of our crisis?

How much moral authority do we (the uneffected one) have to say one way or another?

What do you think the hungry cyclone victims will say, if you ask them the question? Do you have any doubt what will be their answer?

akabir77
November 26, 2007, 12:41 PM
I would even welcome even if there are some "other" reasons. For a country like BD, there is no point in going against US interest. It is better for us to align ourselves with the US interest in the region. That is how we can strengthen ourselves.
agree

cricket_dorshok
November 26, 2007, 12:46 PM
I would even welcome even if there are some "other" reasons. For a country like BD, there is no point in going against US interest. It is better for us to align ourselves with the US interest in the region. That is how we can strengthen ourselves.
:up:

cricket_pagol
November 26, 2007, 01:26 PM
Please check the thread "Operation Sea Angel" to find out how US marine helped in a similar way after the cyclone of 1991.

Tigers_eye
November 26, 2007, 01:38 PM
three more battleship coming. The more the merrier. Just hope they have enough chain saws, and boots to get to places where the help is needed the most. We need all the help we can get.

Nocturnal
November 26, 2007, 04:14 PM
yes.

ammark
November 26, 2007, 05:16 PM
Without judginh the op as being negative (its perfectly neutral), but I'll say this much:

When US comes forward to help, we criticise their actions, their weaknesses, faults and motives.

If the US doesnt come forward enough to help, we criticise that they dont do anything without a motive, their lack of actions, and why as the sole superpower of the world they dont do anything.

There's no satisfying some people.

ps: Onek din por, Navarene bhai. Missed your sig. :-)

tonoy
November 26, 2007, 05:24 PM
Aro ashe na kano? we need more damn it!

akabir77
November 26, 2007, 06:08 PM
who said no? i want to see them? shahosh thakley post your NO comment...

irteja
November 26, 2007, 07:37 PM
why on earth we say NO this this Nobel cause.which two person voted NO? they dont wean food and medical supplies for the Cyclone Sidr victims?

we give salute all those country which are sending humanity aid and support. i hope more and more countries will come forward and help us build our beloved country.

zahid
November 26, 2007, 08:46 PM
2,300 marines alone can take over Bangladesh!

Murad
November 26, 2007, 09:17 PM
I voted yes but i have a doubt. I hope they don't stay there forever like they did in other countries.

Hope they return home after they are finished.

sunnyctg
November 26, 2007, 09:27 PM
meh i find the whole topic kinda weird. Hows 2-3 ship gonna effect bangladesh. its actually funny...poor country like bangladesh getting some free stuff when thousands of poeple are dying..and then again they are complaining!!
some muslim group start protesting infront of ships for coming to bd. Somebody should ask those brainless idiots whether any1 of them gonna help those poor people out. The answer is NO...

MohammedC
November 26, 2007, 09:54 PM
We need any help we can get at this crictical time. We need to save those needy people. Unfortunately our country has not got enough resource like others. SIDR came and gone but took away thousand and thousands of lives. It will take our country atleast 10 years to recover from this natural disaster.

Tigers_eye
November 26, 2007, 10:20 PM
2,300 marines alone can take over Bangladesh!
babor with 12 took over the Indian subcontinent. 2,300 is way too many.

jabbar
November 26, 2007, 11:31 PM
Of course. I am sure that if they tried to "pull a shifty" and engage in military efforts in Bangladesh other than saving cyclone victims, they would be found out by the local and international media...

The real question is, would the US military pull troops out of Iraq to save cyclone victims if they had too?

al Furqaan
November 27, 2007, 12:24 AM
I voted yes but i have a doubt. I hope they don't stay there forever like they did in other countries.

Hope they return home after they are finished.

don't worry this is a genuine humanitarian measure from our (i.e American) side. even if it weren't, bangladesh is not at the moment important enough to have a permenent troop presence.

Banglatiger84
November 27, 2007, 12:25 AM
I would even welcome even if there are some "other" reasons. For a country like BD, there is no point in going against US interest. It is better for us to align ourselves with the US interest in the region. That is how we can strengthen ourselves.


Depends on what you mean by US Interest. As of now our relationship with the USA is ok, and it should continue like. If aligning with US means having friendly relation like most countries are having, it is ok. However, I am sure Bangadesh wouldnt benefit that much from a one-sided fawning relationship like Howard's Australia, Poland, the new Ukraine, or Karzai's Afghanistan.

al Furqaan
November 27, 2007, 12:27 AM
some muslim group start protesting infront of ships for coming to bd. Somebody should ask those brainless idiots whether any1 of them gonna help those poor people out. The answer is NO...

your attitude is quite ignorant.

1) there is a reason (whether valid or not) that they are protesting. who do you know who would turn down free aid in time of need? there must be a reason, right or wrong, that it is protested.

2) actually, a muslim group is helping those poor people. saudi government gave 100 million USD, which is more than anyone else combined. so i don't know where u got your "NO" from.

sunnyctg
November 27, 2007, 02:19 PM
your attitude is quite ignorant.

2) actually, a muslim group is helping those poor people. saudi government gave 100 million USD, which is more than anyone else combined. so i don't know where u got your "NO" from.

Ah you got it wrong mate. I was referring to Hijbur Tahrir group , hense i sed ' a muslim group' who protested against aid when people are dying of hunger. We all know whats US is doing all over the world, but it aint a time to run shows when ur people dying of hunger at ur backyard.

Anywya about occupying the land, i dont think US is interested. As Al Furqaan said above...not important enough which i agree.

Nocturnal
November 27, 2007, 02:48 PM
don't worry this is a genuine humanitarian measure from our (i.e American) side. even if it weren't, bangladesh is not at the moment important enough to have a permenent troop presence.

I know this is not the right time to debate over USA help for Sidr disaster and I also believe they are in Bangladesh only for relief purpose, thanks to them.

Now I have a different idea about the bold part- I think BD is very imp to USA now coz
a. The political situaion in Pakistan is allmost out of control for USA and they need another Muslim country as their friend in this region. and whatever I gather is our CTG is close to USA than any other BD govt. before.
b. Recent Burma crisis.
c. OIL.
By the way, this is completely my personal opinion. Thanks :)

Anher
November 27, 2007, 03:30 PM
I know this is not the right time to debate over USA help for Sidr disaster and I also believe they are in Bangladesh only for relief purpose, thanks to them.

Now I have a different idea about the bold part- I think BD is very imp to USA now coz
a. The political situaion in Pakistan is allmost out of control for USA and they need another Muslim country as their friend in this region. and whatever I gather is our CTG is close to USA than any other BD govt. before.
b. Recent Burma crisis.
c. OIL.
By the way, this is completely my personal opinion. Thanks :)

a very genuine statement(bold). US fear Nuclear Pak going into the hand of islamic fundamentalist . very well observation NOC.

Nocturnal
November 27, 2007, 03:41 PM
a very genuine statement(bold). US fear Nuclear Pak going into the hand of islamic fundamentalist . very well observation NOC.

Thanks I_K_U bhai.
I could add few other points too...but then we will have lengthy political debate which i don't want to start! :)

HereWeGo
November 27, 2007, 04:10 PM
Thanks I_K_U bhai.
I could add few other points too...but then we will have lengthy political debate which i don't want to start! :)

point asey bolar dorkar ki chilo.

My opinion is simple. They are doing a good deed and we should support that.

zahid
November 27, 2007, 04:51 PM
babor with 12 took over the Indian subcontinent. 2,300 is way too many.

Tai naki? Jantam na. Mughal kaam. :)

Fazal
November 27, 2007, 05:11 PM
babor with 12 took over the Indian subcontinent. 2,300 is way too many.

TE, do we need to go that far to mugal amol when we have our own babor (in central jail) who almost took Bangladesh with less than 12 ?

Nocturnal
November 27, 2007, 05:28 PM
TE, do we need to go that far to mugal amol when we have our own babor (in central jail) who almost took Bangladesh with less than 12 ?

exactly my thinking ....when I saw T_E mentioned about Babor, I thought he's being sarcastic and mentioning about Babor-T.Zia group...whom allmost took over the entire country!!

Miraz
November 27, 2007, 05:34 PM
[বাংলা]বর্তমান সময়ের শ্লোগান (সিডর এর পর..)

নেভাল শিপের আগমন..
শুভেচ্ছা স্বাগতম...
শুভেচ্ছা স্বাগতম ...........
নেভাল শিপের আগমন [/বাংলা] :)

Hatebreed
November 27, 2007, 06:09 PM
They are coming to our aid, why do we need to make a negative out of it? I have no problem with it as long as they don't use our territory for their military needs. If that were the case, would it still be beneficial to cooperate with the US? I guess we will cross that bridge when we come to it. As far as I'm concerned, my country's priority comes first.

al Furqaan
November 27, 2007, 08:54 PM
Ah you got it wrong mate. I was referring to Hijbur Tahrir group , hense i sed ' a muslim group' who protested against aid when people are dying of hunger. We all know whats US is doing all over the world, but it aint a time to run shows when ur people dying of hunger at ur backyard.

Anywya about occupying the land, i dont think US is interested. As Al Furqaan said above...not important enough which i agree.

i understand, and i agree with you. personally i wouldn't turn back aid if i was needy.

but at the same time, i have respect for someone who suffers and doesn't accept "charitables" because of a deeply held priniciple. i wouldn't do it myself, my principles are not that strong, but i wouldn't disagree with it.

that being said, i am glad the US is helping whatever it is contributing.

al Furqaan
November 27, 2007, 09:05 PM
I know this is not the right time to debate over USA help for Sidr disaster and I also believe they are in Bangladesh only for relief purpose, thanks to them.

Now I have a different idea about the bold part- I think BD is very imp to USA now coz
a. The political situaion in Pakistan is allmost out of control for USA and they need another Muslim country as their friend in this region. and whatever I gather is our CTG is close to USA than any other BD govt. before.
b. Recent Burma crisis.
c. OIL.
By the way, this is completely my personal opinion. Thanks :)

i appreciate your opinion, but i will disagree.

a) agree that Pakistan situation is out of control, however the nuclear issue is under control. in fact, i'll bet pakistan's nuclear arsenal is completely non-functional. the US got its panties in a bunch over saddam's "weapons of mass destruction", which although he (saddam) possessed, were no where near as destructive as pakistan's alleged nuclear weapons. if pakistan has nuclear weapons, and is as unstable as she seems, US administration would be going crazy with fear right now. which they aren't, which means that pakistani nuclear threat is a complete non-entity. simply put, american and/or israel would not allow pakistan to have access to viable nuclear weapons without themselves having ultimate control over it.

the real problem with pakistan is that democracy is nowhere and a large percentage of the population seems to think the US are trouble makers.

b) burma is a crisis, but unfortunately it ranks quite low on the US's "to do" list for the following reasons:

- buddhist monks do not blow themselves up (at least not in foreign countries)
- iran is a much bigger threat
- asides from pakistan - which i have shown is not that threatening - the south asia region is extremely friendly to US interests.

c) tel? tel ase naki amader???

zahid
November 28, 2007, 06:05 AM
c) tel? tel ase naki amader???

Soyabean tel :lol:

Anher
November 28, 2007, 06:21 AM
Soyabean tel :lol:
heard 100tk ltr. Thaktei ato daam?

Alien
November 28, 2007, 06:49 AM
Help korle dosh, na korle dosh. Moha bipod re bhai.

Alien
November 28, 2007, 06:52 AM
When r they docking btw?

Alien
November 28, 2007, 06:54 AM
c) tel? tel ase naki amader???

We got plenty of these, but it ain't worth fighting for.

http://www.giftmela.com/images/576_thumb.jpg

Anher
November 28, 2007, 07:03 AM
[বাংলা]বর্তমান সময়ের শ্লোগান (সিডর এর পর..)

নেভাল শিপের আগমন..
শুভেচ্ছা স্বাগতম...
শুভেচ্ছা স্বাগতম ...........
নেভাল শিপের আগমন [/বাংলা] :)

[বাংলা]

ঐ লাগে পানি...পানি...আমেরিক ন বিষশুদ্দ... জীবনুর জন্য মুক্ত পানি।

মিরাজ ভাই লাইনে দাড়ান।

[/বাংলা]

akabir77
November 28, 2007, 10:39 AM
c) tel? tel ase naki amader???


Yes we do. seriously. we have a huge depo under Bay of Bengal...

Murad
November 28, 2007, 11:27 AM
Bangladeshe onek tel ache.. Probably you guys didn't know. 2/3 years before, onek gulo teler khoni peyechilo bay of bengal e.

USA wanted the OIL but BD government didn't want to give them. Karon tara cheyechilo je PIPE diye India theke tulte but BD Govn't cheyechilo BD thekei tulte. Shei jonne tara Canada ke dibe bolese as Canada BD thekei tulbe.

USA is AFter the oil, I'm pretty sure.

akabir77
November 28, 2007, 12:00 PM
Bangladeshe onek tel ache.. Probably you guys didn't know. 2/3 years before, onek gulo teler khoni peyechilo bay of bengal e.

USA wanted the OIL but BD government didn't want to give them. Karon tara cheyechilo je PIPE diye India theke tulte but BD Govn't cheyechilo BD thekei tulte. Shei jonne tara Canada ke dibe bolese as Canada BD thekei tulbe.

USA is AFter the oil, I'm pretty sure.
agree and Mr. clinton got so pissed that he left dhaka right away... I saw his red face from handshake distance...

irteja
November 28, 2007, 10:14 PM
tel? tel ase naki amader???

সিডর এর পর অনেক নারিকেল গাছ পড়ে জাওয়াতে দেশে নারিকেল তেলে দামও বাড়বে

cricket_pagol
November 29, 2007, 12:04 AM
I think we should have refused the help of the US service men in 1991 (operation sea angel) when they helped in a similar fashion because that incident created the precedence for them to come again. We have given US an opportunity to after the "Oil that is supposed to exist" at the cost of saving real lives. How did we fall into this US trap?! By being so gullible, we cannot expect to progress as nation.

HereWeGo
November 29, 2007, 12:37 AM
I think we should refused the help of the US service men in 1991 (operation sea angel) when they helped in a similar fashion because that incident created the precedence for them to come again. We have given US an opportunity to after the "Oil that is supposed to exist" at the cost of saving real lives. How did we fall into this US trap?! By being so gullible, we cannot expect to progress as nation.


Show me the oil plsssss
and GROW UP.....hatred is bad

billah
November 29, 2007, 02:04 AM
[বাংলা]এখানে যে জিনিষটা আমার কাছে সবচেয়ে আশ্চর্য্য লাগে তা হলো, এই কাঠমোল্লা গুলিরে পায়ে দড়ি বেঁধে মাথা নীচের দিকে দিয়ে ঝুলাতে আমাদের এতো দেরী কেন? এই শয়তানগুলির জ্বালায় আমরা অস্থির....যে কোনো জিনিষকে ধর্মীয় ইসু বানাতে এদের কোনোই দ্বিধা নেই

এই গোমূর্খ গুলিকে দাড়িতে দাড়িতে গিঁট দিয়ে ওই দুই মার্কিন জাহাজের মাঝখানে ঝুলিয়ে দিতে পারলে রাগটা মিটতো....[/বাংলা]

RazabQ
November 29, 2007, 02:11 AM
Need ATMR's "[বাংলা]কোথেকে যে[/বাংলা] ..." comment here. My dad was director of the Relief and Rehabilitation Agency during the last major one (1991). He had nothing but good things to say about the US Marines and even beat me to being the first one the family to ride a helicopter. In fact he trumps me plenty - I took a touristy ride in Maui and he was on a Blackhawk!

Anyway, to those who are always looking for an agenda - suck it up. With hundreds at the risk of dying, we can't afford to spurn help.

Alien
November 29, 2007, 05:29 AM
Show me the oil plsssss
and GROW UP.....hatred is bad

Like I said earlier, help korle dosh na korleo dosh.

Superpower hoile ei ekta problem niya bachte hoye.

cricket_dorshok
November 29, 2007, 08:32 AM
Here is an article of Anu Muhammad: I haven't read in detail though:

World of terror, Sidr and US ‘help’
Whenever the US says peace we need to read it as war, whenever it says democracy we need to think of repression. History shows us again and again that whenever the US extended ‘help’, it ended with new chains, occupation and human suffering,
writes Anu Muhammad
full article (http://www.newagebd.com/edit.html#2)

cricket_pagol
November 29, 2007, 08:56 AM
I think we should have refused the help of the US service men in 1991 (operation sea angel) when they helped in a similar fashion because that incident created the precedence for them to come again. We have given US an opportunity to after the "Oil that is supposed to exist" at the cost of saving real lives. How did we fall into this US trap?! By being so gullible, we cannot expect to progress as nation.

i am surprised nobody saw the sarcasm in my comment! I have to announce that I am being sarcastic :)

Pundit
December 1, 2007, 07:28 PM
i am surprised nobody saw the sarcasm in my comment! I have to announce that I am being sarcastic :)

Yup!

Pundit
December 1, 2007, 07:29 PM
Dispel public confusion over stay of US navy ship
Speakers urge govt at BBC Bangladesh Sanglap
Staff Correspondent

The caretaker government should dispel public confusion over the detail plan of a US Navy ship that is acting as the launch pad for US relief effort in the coastal districts, speakers at a BBC Bangladesh Sanglap yesterday said.

They said the administration should clarify how long the US service personnel would stay here, how they would perform their activities and when they would leave the country, easing public doubt.

"As the US warship has given rise to questions in the public mind, it is the government's duty to make everything clear," said former army chief Lt Gen (retd) Harun-Ar-Rashid.

He said the misgivings are not groundless given the US attitude in different countries. "If people know how long and how US soldiers will work here, then they will get relief from confusion".

Other panellists in the Sanglap included Awami League (AL) presidium member Motia Chowdhury, adviser to BNP chairperson Enam Ahmed Chowdhury, and president of Bangladesh Economic Association Dr Qazi Kholiquzzaman Ahmad.

Echoing Harun, Motia Chowdhury said the US would have to prove that public confusion over their presence here is pointless.

She said people do not know about the terms and conditions under which the US service personnel arrived here. As the government did not make the terms public, they are now in uncertainty as to whether the US soldiers have intentions other than relief operations only.

Enam, a former Privatisation Board chairman, said everything will be clear if the timetable for relief work and rehabilitation could first be fixed.

Dr Kholiquzzaman said different countries have different styles of helping a disaster-hit country and the US has sent in soldiers. But the government should have made it clear, he said, adding that relief materials would not reach all if distribution of it is not done in a coordinated way.

BBC Bangla Service organised the Sanglap together with BBC World Service Trust and was moderated by Shakeel Anwar of BBC Bangla Service.

All the panellists called on the government to try the war criminals immediately.

Lt Gen (retd) Harun said in this regard that the state has no obstacle to bringing the war criminals in the dock but political goodwill is necessary for this, adding the war criminals could be tried under the existing law of the country.

The present or any future government can form special tribunal anytime to bring them to book, he said.

Dr Kholiquzzaman said trying the war criminals should be the first task of the next elected government, with Motia adding that the Awami League would try them if voted to power in the future.

Enam said the present government has been busy with trying corrupt people and extortionists, but they should also identify the war criminals to bring them to book.

He admitted that the BNP-led four party coalition government could not try the war criminals because they did not have goodwill in this regard.

All the panellists agreed that the government should coordinate the relief operations to ensure that it reaches everyone equally. They also said donor agencies should not prefer NGOs to the government in conducting relief work.

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FireBall
December 1, 2007, 07:51 PM
I would accept thousands people live at risk rather than live like mendicancy squad. Its shameful life to live like bikkok. I will live with a famous chinese probverb "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

HereWeGo
December 1, 2007, 08:09 PM
I would accept thousands people live at risk rather than live like mendicancy squad. Its shameful life to live like bikkok. I will live with a famous chinese probverb "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

Don give a man any fish and don teach him how to fish either and he will die.

Why is it so hard for you to accept help. Our garment industry relies on US. Take that away and our whole Economy would crumble.
We don have OIL neither we have any other forms of rich mineral. They are simply here to help. The more they help and the more time they stay the better it is.
You are only saying this because you haev no idea about the hardship these people are facing.
Try to be in the shoes of the victims and then make comments.

FireBall
December 2, 2007, 02:42 AM
Don give a man any fish and don teach him how to fish either and he will die.

Why is it so hard for you to accept help. Our garment industry relies on US. Take that away and our whole Economy would crumble.
We don have OIL neither we have any other forms of rich mineral. They are simply here to help. The more they help and the more time they stay the better it is.
You are only saying this because you haev no idea about the hardship these people are facing.
Try to be in the shoes of the victims and then make comments.

Its so hard for me to accept "vikari" help because from the day i have started to think i have seen us asking for "vikka" whenever for any reason. Thats what made us a disble nation. Have you ever seen any "Vikari village" in Bangladesh? People of these village never do anything but doing vikka generation after generation and they are proud of that. What a Low life shameless lowest category people!.

US garment industry rely on us becuase of low cost and cheap labour. Its not help. We made US to to do bussiness with us. If US have got other cheap sources US businessmen wouldnt give a damn of my country. Businessmen mean Business.

when you said we dont have oil and other rich mineral i say why not make other pay us oil. In that case i would prefer invade other well resourced country. Thats what your respectable master (US, UK and all developed and so called civilized country) did. Learn a lifetime lesson here " Dont ask help , make other to help".

I have seen my family, how they have grown up from hardship to leadership.
If i have 50000Tk i wouldnt distribute it to 100 family to live 5 good day. instead i will pick 5 family, will show them the way how to pass better life for lifetime and make other to learn the technique.

zahid
December 2, 2007, 11:57 AM
I thought the US sent an aircraft carrier. Now, from the News it seems that the ship they sent is a small one that has a Helipad. :floor:

Pundit
December 2, 2007, 12:22 PM
Its so hard for me to accept "vikari" help because from the day i have started to think i have seen us asking for "vikka" whenever for any reason. Thats what made us a disble nation. .....
......I have seen my family, how they have grown up from hardship to leadership.
If i have 50000Tk i wouldnt distribute it to 100 family to live 5 good day. instead i will pick 5 family, will show them the way how to pass better life for lifetime and make other to learn the technique.

Your argument is philosophically sound, at best. What the ships are doing is a one time event, and our response has to be in tune with the reality. It has nothing to do with any "vikari" habit. You are failing to grasp the gravity of the situation, and overly eager to express your "strength of mind" at the expense of the suffering of so many people.

Incidently, do you know on a person to person basis, how many of the victims receiving foreign aid are "vikaris?" I doubt you do. And what if one were your sister trapped in the outer banks - and unreachable via your "vikari" noukas? What would your choice be...hope for the best, or let the aid relief come and rescue her from the off-shore?

HereWeGo
December 2, 2007, 10:59 PM
Its so hard for me to accept "vikari" help because from the day i have started to think i have seen us asking for "vikka" whenever for any reason. Thats what made us a disble nation. Have you ever seen any "Vikari village" in Bangladesh? People of these village never do anything but doing vikka generation after generation and they are proud of that. What a Low life shameless lowest category people!.

US garment industry rely on us becuase of low cost and cheap labour. Its not help. We made US to to do bussiness with us. If US have got other cheap sources US businessmen wouldnt give a damn of my country. Businessmen mean Business.

when you said we dont have oil and other rich mineral i say why not make other pay us oil. In that case i would prefer invade other well resourced country. Thats what your respectable master (US, UK and all developed and so called civilized country) did. Learn a lifetime lesson here " Dont ask help , make other to help".

I have seen my family, how they have grown up from hardship to leadership.
If i have 50000Tk i wouldnt distribute it to 100 family to live 5 good day. instead i will pick 5 family, will show them the way how to pass better life for lifetime and make other to learn the technique.

Well can u pls give me a name of the village where everyone is a vikari????

These people lost everything, houses, boats (since most of them were fishemans),
Now they will have to rebuild their life and feed their family. They need everyones help. US is there to help. Thats the fact.

Bangladesh donated a million dollars to Us government during Katrina. U call it helping and u call it humanity. U help people who are not as lucky as you. Calling your country a "vikari nation" is a bad bad thing to say. U must be reprimended for that.

By the way how many families did u volunteeritly showed
" will show them the way how to pass better life for lifetime and make other to learn the technique" ( i don know wat that means tho). Can u pls be a lil more specific abt how to go abt doing that. May be Dr Yunus can take a leaf out of your theory and work on it.

Pundit called your comment Philosophy, I call it "non sense" at best

Banglatiger84
December 3, 2007, 01:28 AM
I have seen my family, how they have grown up from hardship to leadership.
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Maybe thats the reason you think every poor person around can just wake up and become rich if they wanted to.

People who become rich after poverty often do so because they worked hard, and because they got the right amount of luck.

I am sure you are proud of your family, but dont forget there are thousands of other families who are working equally hard but who are unable to progress because of bad luck/circumstances.

sunny747
December 3, 2007, 03:29 AM
couldn't refrain myself to post here. Those who are opposing US help, i'm sure most of you are getting your education in the States. Working your a$$ off to get their citizenship. and now you don't want US to give to aid to us. More than you, those sufferer needs help. They can't afford to care who is american or indian. they just need help.

Bhoter mukhe ram ram!!!

Always remember!! they are the super power. They don't need any cause. If they want our oil ( ? ), they can get it by somewhoe and we can NEVER stop them.

Navarene
December 3, 2007, 06:26 PM
Ok, here is a clarification from my side to open this thread. I was strongly trying to be impersonal irrespective to what was my stand on this issue. I didnt even try to imply anything like if the US navy had any other hidden agenda but to help unconditionally to the Sidr victims. Since the presence of an US troop to a third country always raise the eyebrow and controversy by default, I thought I would open a poll to know what was our BC members view and opine in this regard. Hope this explanation will help enough to restrain those who jumps on the bandwagon from labelling me of being a hardliner when our people need desperate help.

Nevertheless, I have an innocent, I repeat, an innocent question to be answered. Why do the US gorvernment need to send naval ship with the naval troop to help our Sidr victims? Couldn't have this help been performed in any other way? Like sending a cargo plane with loads of food and medical stuff, and with a medical and rehabilitation team for that matter? Why the naval army?

Sorry if this "innocent" question reflects my being ignorant, but as a "shadharon jonogon" my inquisiteveness knows no boundary.

Pundit
December 3, 2007, 06:58 PM
Ok, here is a clarification from my side to open this thread. I was strongly trying to be impersonal irrespective to what was my stand on this issue. .....

......Sorry if this "innocent" question reflects my being ignorant, but as a "shadharon jonogon" my inquisiteveness knows no boundary.

I have not taken this poll, and am not sure what my true opinion is. I am trying to use sense when I respond.

But Nav's additional comments has re-kindled my interest. Knowing Nav, I am not truly surprised with this left leaning (nothing wrong there, I suppose), somewhat academic oriented spin here (certainly nothing wrong there).

You mention a cargo plane..how much can that bring in? Ok, how about 20 cargo planes: from where?

Also, when emergency response means within days, what civilian entity could actually make it from the USA to meet the needs? Let me think, the Fairfax county first response medical unit? Let me think, what kind of red tape would that have required to be surmounted, even with federal push?

Also, had they sent 20 cargo planes (which by the way, Saddam's Iraq could have sent also) our begum moyna moti (ur) would still be harping - its a camoflouged planed, its a CIA agent disguised as a medic. And why do you think the USA is the USA, because its emergency response unit is equivalent to Saddam's Iraqi helicopter brigade? Maybe no, I think? Don't you?