View Full Version : Will the Annapolis conference make a Palestinian state?

November 27, 2007, 03:05 PM
Today (27th Nov), the three leaders President Bush of USA, President Olmert of Israel and President Abbas of the Palestinian authority, met in Annapolis in Maryland with other Arab leaders and world leaders, to discuss the issue on creating the state of Palestine. We have seen this many times by the three leaders, trying to create peace between Israelis and the Palestinians, but will this conference lead to a creation of an independent Palestinian state, because the leaders were very confident of creating peace with each other at the end of December this year, but is this just a waste of time, and is probably be ended up as just a 'failure' between the countries, so is there really a point of this conference??? :-/

Video: http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2007/11/26/verjee.us.what.can.be.gained.in.annapolis.cnn

November 28, 2007, 03:08 AM
No matter what happens, Palestinians MUST NEVER give up the right of return, no matter what happens. In fact, no political body has the right to represent a decision which can be taken only by individual refugees and their families.

I pray that my children in their old age will witness the birth of a democratic state, irrespective of what it may be called in the future, where all of its citizens are assessed in terms of the content of their chararcter as individuals.

November 28, 2007, 03:53 AM
It's another dumb show. The complexity of the situation has worsen over time as its no longer "Palestinians vs Israel" its more like "Israel vs Hamas vs Fatah".

I don't believe there can ever be peace in that region. There has to be 1 loser and every one has to make up sacrifice. Israel will never allow the right to return no matter what, and they are secretly hoping Arabs would give up on that which they won't.

The right to return is will change the demographics of Israel and those zionists will never agree to it.

November 28, 2007, 02:05 PM
The real problem in the region is the Hamas and Israeli factor, they both do not want peace between each other, because of the road map and all that stuff, that it why we cannot have a solution to this problem, and Jerusalem is heading to a unknown future of its city.

November 28, 2007, 02:31 PM
Making an announcemet of a Palestinian state is one thing. Palestinians having a Sovereign country is out of the question. It is not in the interest of the USA or Israel to have peace in the middle east.

This mockery will continue, until ..well, until we see an Israeli "Intifada". When young Israelis rise up and take control away from the blood-thirsty east european psuodo-jews. Chance of that happening is one in a trillion, and, just about the only chance. The US has no reason to shift middle east policy in the next few decades.

Enjoy the road show of the Condi Republic, people. It beats the hell out of Broadway...

al Furqaan
November 28, 2007, 07:29 PM
s a few other people have stated, peace is not in the interests of any of the 3 parties involved: the US, israel, and the palestinian leadership (be it fatah or hamas).

- US - richest and most powerful country in the world with all the havoc and bloodshed in the middle east. only question is "will cheap oil be flowing out at a high rate." the answer has nothing to do with or without a palestinian state. iraq and afghanistan are states number 51 and 52 and people are coming to grips with the fact that cheap oil cannot be had due to the rise of the chinese and indian economies.

- Israel - the wealthiest country, in terms of per capita, in the middle east - heck amongst the richest in the world. supreme military capabilities despite loss to hezbollah last year. 1st world developed economy, hospitals, universities. booming tourism. now with the security fence up and mostly operational, suicide bombings are no longer a worry. of the hundreds of rockets fired by gaza militants, only a handful of casualties. most countries would die to achieve the security israel has. don't be fooled. convetional wisdome holds that israel is the most vulnerable nation on earth. the reality is that no country is safer than israel on this planet. well maybe the north korean police state, but you get the picture. after having been at war for 60 years for its very existance, to have only lost 20,000 or so lives is testement to just how secure israel is without "peace".

so you have money, power, security...what more can you get? peace is not needed, because peace is already been had for some time now.

- Palestinians - fatah does not want peace, because so long as palestinians remain this "poor, oppressed" lot, the PLO coffers get filled with donations from iran, gulf countries, the EU, and whatever scraps the US doesn't hand over to the israelis and egyptians. who needs peace when your bank account has more zeroes than courtney walsh's career batting record?

hamas needs an enemy. without one, it ceases to function. it cannot vent its hate and i has no oppressed children to look after.

in short, the only losers the palestinian civilians. the only reason they can survive is that most of them think that a favorable solution (be it military or peaceful) can still be had, even if it takes a millenia.

November 29, 2007, 01:29 PM
If you like Dog and Pony show, then Annapolis is the place for you..