Bangladesh to replace Zimbabwe for England tour?

[cricman]

I think Zimbabwe tour just got cancelled

ENGLAND are set pay Zimbabwe compensation for scrapping a scheduled one-day series at the start of summer 2009.

Zimbabwe, who currently do not have Test status, were due here under the ICC rota for a two-Test series and minimum of three one-day matches.

But English cricket chiefs want to cash in with seven Tests in the Ashes year and may now kick off the summer by facing Bangladesh instead.

England also host the Twenty20 World Cup ahead of a five-match campaign against Australia.

Rules state failure to fulfil a one-day international will cost £75,000.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/cricket/article581036.ece


The ECB is struggling to attract Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka here for a mere two-Test visit. With the ICC World Twenty20 tournament being held here later in 2009, it would disrupt tourists' preparations for that. Only if the ECB can clear its fixture list to lure them with a five-match ODI series would one of those nations consider coming - but then the reciprocal-tours arrangements with those countries would place strain on the 2012 calendar, when England are due to tour Zimbabwe.
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/167105.html

Playing England in May is Hard enough and it's an Ashes year too, So England would want to whip us real bad like last time. But if I'm running the BCB i say Yes, get a chance to play at Lords again and make a few suggestions to the ECB to set up extra 20/20 matches after the Test to get ready for World 20/20's against the counties or even a few with Australia. Or another Natwest Series involving Bangladesh, England and Australia:-D

[Tintin]

Playing England in May is Hard enough and it's an Ashes year too, So England would want to whip us real bad like last time.

The Sun report says that the 20-20 is before the Ashes series. So will it be Bangladesh, 20-20, Ashes or 20-20, Bangladesh, Ashes ? The latter looks more logical, in which case the BD matches will be in June.

[Miraz]

I am a big NO NO for a series against England in May, this is too early for a cricket season.

Every team is bound to struggle in those conditions. We will be clearly whipped away, a series in July would have been interesting.

But again we do not have choices over our schedule, according to FTP we already have a series against England in May 2010.

Now, is this an additional series or is rescheduled?

[cricman]

The FTP says May

I think it goes like Bangladesh Tests, World 20/20's and Ashes, makes no sense for Bangladesh and England but I think theres 2 squads a 20/20 squad and a Test Squad, Players like Ash and KP can make smooth transitions from Tests to ODI and players like Rajin and Vaughn will be Test Only.

Now, is this an additional series or is rescheduled?

Additional

[Rabz]

I think we should say Yes too.

Playing in England would also give the players a chance to get thier names heard in the county cricket.

BCB should also try to bargain one more test or couple of extra ODI's in the process, in the name of rescuing ECB.

BCB should grab this opportunity, if it comes along their way.
But then again, in not sure how our own fixture stands at that time around.

[Miraz]

I think we should say Yes too.

Playing in England would also give the players a chance to get thier names heard in the county cricket.

BCB should also try to bargain one more test or couple of extra ODI's in the process, in the name of rescuing ECB.

BCB should grab this opportunity, if it comes along their way.
But then again, in not sure how our own fixture stands at that time around.

IMO, if the series puts too much strain on our own schedule, we should decline the offer as we are touring England in May 2010 anyway.

[PoorFan]

I agree with cricman, we should take it and ask ECB to arrange few 20/20 or ODI ... perhaps inbetween 1st & 2nd test ... saying we might lose those tests within 2.5 days.:-p

[Miraz]

The FTP says May

Additional

Not sure mate!! nothing is mentioned in the news and England will be defnitely reluctant to offer two consecutive summers (2009 & 2010) to Bangladesh.

[zainab]

In my opinion , they should not go, but wait for 2010, they have a chance of beating England then, what is the point of travelling all the way there for 2 Tests, no ODIs or 20/20 games.

[wrong `un]

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Reason - wrong thread

[Spitfire_x86]

No reason to turn down the offer if it comes. We need to play as many tests as possible.

[MohammedC]

I say Bring them on. Agree with Cricman and Miraz Bhai the early English season is too helpful for fast bowlers. But if we have good summer in UK in 2009 it may be different.

[cricket_king]

IMO, if the series puts too much strain on our own schedule, we should decline the offer as we are touring England in May 2010 anyway.

I agree. Getting thrashed by a gumbie team like England will lower our boys' confidence. If it was in Bangladesh then no problem. Plus I despise that England place. Roads are skinny and buildings are small. Ugh.

[Rabz]

At present, BD's FTP for 2009 stands such:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="50%">January 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifSri Lanka in Bangladesh
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in Bangladesh (3 ODIs)
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifTri-Series in Bangladesh (Ban, SL & Zim)

February 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifNothing for BD as yet

March 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifNothing for BD as yet

April 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifWest Indies in Bangladesh (2 Tests & 3 ODIs)

May 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in England (2 Tests & 3 ODIs)
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifNothing for BD as yet

June 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifICC T20 World Championship



</TD><TD vAlign=top width="50%">July 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifBangladesh in Zimbabwe (2 Tests & 3 ODIs)

August 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifBangladesh in Zimbabwe (2 Tests & 3 ODIs)

September 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in Bangladesh (3 Tests & 5 ODIs)


October 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in Bangladesh (3 Tests & 5 ODIs)

November 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in Bangladesh

December 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifIndia in Bangladesh (2 Tests)



</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

So according to ICC FTP on www.cricinfo.com (http://www.cricinfo.com),

we are set to play Zim in 3 different series in 2009!!
...and they dont even have the test status as upto now.

Is it just me, or can someone tell me why are we playing 5 tests and 11+ ODI's against ONE team in THREE different series' in one year??

So, in all possibilities, we have a series in April against WI and against India in Dec!
....and a bundle of tests and odi's against Zimbabwe in between!
So, i dont think its goin to strain our tour programme to a bit.

Looking at the dismal picture of our FTP, i think BCB should not only grab it, but rather snatch it at any opportunity it gets.

And if we can tour England in May 2010 ( the early conditions everyone is nervous about), what difference does it make in May 2009?

After all, its not anytime soon that we will get a call for a series against the "elite" top 3 or 4 in thier peak season.

Now lets see whether this is all a media fuss or a real thing ....

[Tigers_eye]

Early summer will also affect the English batsmen. Shahadat and Co. needs these type of series to boost their average and strike rate. I say take the offer (if given) and run with it. :)

[Nasif]

Take the offer without second thought. We have nothing to loose but everything to gain. We don't have luxury of "choice". Whatever we get our way is a blessing from above.

Take it.

[arifur81]

Why is every1 so busy about 2009 schedules, don't you think we should thinking about the coming year rather than then year after. It’s just my opinion; please forgive me if I have hurt any1s feeling.

[al Furqaan]

No reason to turn down the offer if it comes. We need to play as many tests as possible.

i agree...we don't plat that many tests. only reason it seems like 10 in a year is a lot is cuz we played none in over a year recently.

its owed to us by the big boys so lets take it. SL took our NZ series last year and didn't complain about playing too much cricket.

[Kabir]

No reason to turn down the offer if it comes. We need to play as many tests as possible.

The math is simple. I agree.

Turning down an offer when we're available only for it being the start of a season is ridiculous. IMO, playing under these conditions is IMPORTANT for our cricket future. If you don't play under these conditions, you won't learn. And if we go on May 2009 as an additional to May 2010, that will be nothing but blessings for our cricket. Simple math.

[Spitfire_x86]

At present, BD's FTP for 2009 stands such:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="50%">January 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifSri Lanka in Bangladesh
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in Bangladesh (3 ODIs)
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifTri-Series in Bangladesh (Ban, SL & Zim)

February 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifNothing for BD as yet

March 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifNothing for BD as yet

April 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifWest Indies in Bangladesh (2 Tests & 3 ODIs)

May 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in England (2 Tests & 3 ODIs)
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifNothing for BD as yet

June 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifICC T20 World Championship



</TD><TD vAlign=top width="50%">July 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifBangladesh in Zimbabwe (2 Tests & 3 ODIs)

August 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifBangladesh in Zimbabwe (2 Tests & 3 ODIs)

September 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in Bangladesh (3 Tests & 5 ODIs)


October 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in Bangladesh (3 Tests & 5 ODIs)

November 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifZimbabwe in Bangladesh

December 2009
http://img.cricinfo.com/NATIONAL/ICC/bullet.gifIndia in Bangladesh (2 Tests)



</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
I hope you're wrong. There's Zimbo, Zimbo and only Zimbo all over this table :( :hairpull:

[Tigers_eye]

I hope you're wrong. There's Zimbo, Zimbo and only Zimbo all over this table :( :hairpull:
Even though it seems alot we will only be playing 5 test and 12 ODIs against them. That is if they start playing test by then. The timing is bad and some of the matches are bound to get washed out.

[Rabz]

I hope you're wrong. There's Zimbo, Zimbo and only Zimbo all over this table :( :hairpull:

I hope so too.
Im sure some amendments will be made in the meantime.

BCB should wake up for their cause.

[Nafi]

Yes please!!!!

Then I get to have the bangladesh team at my dad's resatuarant and can say hi to Ash and the rest, this would be much appreciated.

[akabir77]

Yes please!!!!

Then I get to have the bangladesh team at my dad's resatuarant and can say hi to Ash and the rest, this would be much appreciated.

this time make sure you measure his hight ;)

[Spitfire_x86]

Even though it seems alot we will only be playing 5 test and 12 ODIs against them. That is if they start playing test by then. The timing is bad and some of the matches are bound to get washed out.
5 tests and 12 ODIs against the same opponent in 1 calender year is too much, especially when you consider that these matches are spanned across 2½ complete tours. I wouldn't mind a single tour hosted by either us or them, which could have 3 tests and 5 ODIs.

[kalpurush]

At present, BD's FTP for 2009 stands such:

Looking at the dismal picture of our FTP, i think BCB should not only grab it, but rather snatch it at any opportunity it gets.

And if we can tour England in May 2010 ( the early conditions everyone is nervous about), what difference does it make in May 2009?

After all, its not anytime soon that we will get a call for a series against the "elite" top 3 or 4 in thier peak season.

Now lets see whether this is all a media fuss or a real thing ....

My vote for sydney (Rabz!) for the next BCB president!:D

[cricketboy]

I think bangladesh should go in the scheduled 2010 than 2009 as by then I hope we will have a more experienced team and also 20-20 will not be ahead.

[Kabir]

By the way, could this be a chaal by England? May be they're offering this for 2009 and making us happy; after the tour, they can then cancel the 2010 tour, and say "well, we've fulfilled our requirement for 2 years"

[Rabz]

My vote for sydney (Rabz!) for the next BCB president!:D


Oh...Obayed bhai...
you are ever so generous...

apnar kotha kemne felai....



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I throw my name in the hat....

To be the next BCB President.
Press 1 for me.

[Omio]

Take the offer without thinking too much.

[tiger_omar]

Specially if we're supposed to play in England in May 2010, isn't it a good idea to tour there in May 2009, so we can gain valuable experience for the following year?

[rabeya]

kewll weelll if they play gud den its well n gud 4 our country's fame

[AsifTheManRahman]

Dudes and dudettes, why the concern regarding T20 WC preps? Who cares? We have our Aftabs and Ashrafuls and Zunaeds and pasher barir Gopals and parar Maksuds to go bang bang. Early May sounds perfect to me - we've been there, done that, and I'd like to think we'll be a better team in 2009.

What I don't understand though is why they want to play us. Is it because we are among the three that are free at that time?

[Murad]

Yeah, I think so.

All other teams are busy at the time except Pak, Srl, BD.

Anyways, I don't think we will get to play those matches As Zimbabwe wants to play the matches and urged ECB to consult with the ICC about the matter. Now only ICC can cancel the series.

[Moshin]

another damn zimbabwe tour,
we beat them in the two previous series
and now another one, we need to play better
teams for the sake of the fans!
-by the way zimbabwe have improved (beat WI a few weeks ago!)

[cricket_king]

another damn zimbabwe tour,
we beat them in the two previous series
and now another one, we need to play better
teams for the sake of the fans!
-by the way zimbabwe have improved (beat WI a few weeks ago!)

Uh...Bangladesh isn't replacing England with Zimbabwe. England is replacing Zimbabwe with Bangladesh for their tour in 2008. You might want to read the title carefully, as well as some of the posts...

[Tiger Bhai]

Revenge awaits..
I'd say let the Tigers go, rip apart those stupid lions.. I can assure u a blood bath this time.

[kalpurush]

To be the next BCB President.
Press 1 for me.
Done!;)

[rah]

no i dont like this idea, england are thinking to replace one minow team with another minnow. if we play them in 2009 we will most likely play 2 test while in 2010 we mite have a chance for 3. but if we were to play 2009 and 2010(which i doubt) that wud be a great fing

[Imtiazk]

I watched every match last time except the Nottingham one. Both the tests could have been played a week later. The team did nothing after the second test and the first Nat West for about 10 days ! Believe me, a week later would have been a lot warmer for our boys.

Another thing: they should not accept a 10.30 start. Channel 4 likes it or not.

[bdchamp20]

I think Bangladesh will benefit from touring England b4 the World Twenty20, they will get a feel of conditions in England and that might be an advantage for Bangladesh's World Twenty20 campaign.

[Eshen]

From http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/cricket/article4208138.ece
Zimbabwe’s tour of England, which is scheduled for next year, will be scrapped today when the Government confirms that the squad will not be allowed into the country.....

The ECB — now likely to invite Bangladesh to bring forward by a year their visit scheduled for 2010 ....

[Sovik]

hope they visit ireland for a match or two

[Eshen]

IMO, if the series puts too much strain on our own schedule, we should decline the offer as we are touring England in May 2010 anyway.
I have to agree with Miraz here. From what I have read so far, this is not an additional tour, rather ECB wants to schedule the 2010 tour forward. There is no point straining our own schedule for ECB's interest if it's not offering us anything extra.

[Sovik]

if that happens then we will see some matches in Ireland. i had a chat with Peter Johnston who is Simmon's deputy and he said if bangladesh visit England, they will invite bangladesh to play atleast 3 matches against Ireland in Ireland

[mahbubH]

I would love to see BD playing UK next year rather than year after next!

[Zeeshan]

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Ash rejected by Ash went on to win the Ash :D

[nycpro96]

when is this replacement tour?

[Eshen]

if that happens then we will see some matches in Ireland. i had a chat with Peter Johnston who is Simmon's deputy and he said if bangladesh visit England, they will invite bangladesh to play atleast 3 matches against Ireland in Ireland
Sounds good (provided Ireland can field its full strength team). Bangladesh will be in England either way to participate in the Twenty20 WC next year June.

[bujhee kom]

i would like it to happen!
lose or win or lose,
the more we play, hopefully better we will get at it!

when is it again? is it 100% fixed(no pun) yet?

[hoodlum]

it will be tough to play against ireland in ireland

[Sohel]

Don't we LOOVE "just being there" !

Does this mean Sid will revise the target to say -- 200 again ?

[BANFAN]

I throw my name in the hat....

To be the next BCB President.
Press 1 for me.

Where is that 1 ? :)

[Anher]

i will take it without second thought. We need to play as many test as we get.
Lets give england Bashes series before Ashes.

Its also a good chance for me to meet bangladeshi team as sovik mention.

[abu2abu]

It looks like Sri lanka want to replace zimbabwe in the England tour next year, so BD may miss out:

Sri Lanka, deep in debt, want to replace Zimbabwe on a brief tour of England next Spring

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/02/worldtwenty20.cricket

[crikfreak]

why SL?? i'd like BD to go.. we've got nothing to loose..

[Eshen]

ECB name Sri Lanka as Zimbabwe replacement

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/360370.html

[abu2abu]

oh well, it was a nice idea...

[brockley]

Srilankan players not happy it clashes with IPL,they may go on strike or retire early to play IPL.

[ialbd]

blessing in disguise for us.... seriously.....

[MohammedC]

We should take the opportunity play SL during IPL

[brockley]

Srilankan board gone anti IPL of late,i guess too IPl doesn't make srilanka board money,only internationals do that and srilankan board quite broke,don't blame them for wanting to get the most out of their players.
That said srilankan board should pay the srilankans whcih they have delayed of late.

[abu2abu]

yep, maybe we'll get a chance after all...

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/srilanka/content/current/story/360568.html

[israr]

People are forgetting that we are supposed to host the Caribbean side during this period.

[Rabz]

Having SL makes more sense to the ECB i guess.
There is no point of hosting Bangladesh two year in a row.
And we also failed to make our case stronger with the dismal performance of late, both in tests and odi.

SL just became the Asian Champions, so commercially they are more wanted obviously.

[abu2abu]

People are forgetting that we are supposed to host the Caribbean side during this period.

According to Cricinfo, BD will host the windies for 2 test and 3 ODIs in April 2009. The english test season does not start until mid-May, so I think it's do-able:

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/FORTHCOMING/FUTURE_TOURS/2009.html

[abu2abu]

Having SL makes more sense to the ECB i guess.
There is no point of hosting Bangladesh two year in a row.
And we also failed to make our case stronger with the dismal performance of late, both in tests and odi.

SL just became the Asian Champions, so commercially they are more wanted obviously.

But the sri lankan team apparently don't want to tour. They want to line their pockets by playing in the IPL instead...

[brockley]

Bangladesh a good chance to get the test series in england now.
The srilanka players will play IPL,srilanka want to change the itinnery to later in the season,but that is not possible as england have the world 20/20 cup and then the ashes.
Do you seriously see the ECB changing those 2 things for srilanka.
The only alternative would be to send a second string team to england,don't think the ECB will do that.
It will get cancelled.
And the ECB has isigned a deal with sky for 7 test matches,5 vs the aussies,2 vs someone else.
If their is no tests then the english can play in the IPL and the ECB won't do that.
Conclusion,bangladesh likely to get the series.

[bujhee kom]

Bangladesh a good chance to get the test series in england now...
...Conclusion,bangladesh likely to get the series.

brockly bro i hope so! i would really love for bd to get a few extra test matches in england, i can think of the outcome very easily, but it will be great and valuable experience of playing the good form english team in their condition! of course, we can always try harder to be more competetive as well! i just pray and hope for the best!

[cricman]

But the sri lankan team apparently don't want to tour. They want to line their pockets by playing in the IPL instead...

They havent been paid since last year, they deserve every penny the BCCI gives them, Is 2009 or 2010 an Ashes year? I wanna play them in July not in May where it's a total mismatch

[Spitfire_x86]

We should tell ECB inviting Bangladesh will bring them good luck for Ashes, just like 2005!

[cricket_king]

Still don't see why everyone's so jumpy about this tour (If it actually does go through).
Another series in England - Another humiliation awaits...

[abu2abu]

They havent been paid since last year, they deserve every penny the BCCI gives them, Is 2009 or 2010 an Ashes year? I wanna play them in July not in May where it's a total mismatch

whether we play england in 2009 or 2010 (2009 is the ashes year) we'll play in May. England only ever invite BD and Zim for 2 tests in the early part of the season. They save the big guns (SA, Pak, India, Oz) for June/July when it's less likely to rain. Though in England, you never know with the rain...

[abu2abu]

Still don't see why everyone's so jumpy about this tour (If it actually does go through).
Another series in England - Another humiliation awaits...

As i live in the UK, I'll get to watcha match or two. either live or on Sky...

[bdchamp20]

Well it looks like Sri Lanka will allow their IPL stars to play in the IPL rather than playing them in this series. They will send a much weaker-strength team. Frankly I think England would've benefited from playing a full-strength Bangladesh side rather than a SL team without Jayawardene, Sangakkara, Murali, Jayasuriya, Mendis, Vaas etc.

[bujhee kom]

Well it looks like Sri Lanka will allow their IPL stars to play in the IPL rather than playing them in this series. They will send a much weaker-strength team. Frankly I think England would've benefited from playing a full-strength Bangladesh side rather than a SL team without Jayawardene, Sangakkara, Murali, Jayasuriya, Mendis, Vaas etc.

absoultely true!

[crikfreak]

looks like SL are playing..

[Eshen]

From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1035479/Jones-tipped-England-bowler-rise-Ashes.html
The future of the proposed Sri Lankan tour of England next year will become clearer today when the ECB responds to Sri Lankan proposals for a revised trip. The Sri Lankan board have given 13 of their leading players permission to play in the whole of next year's Indian Premier League, which clashes with the two-Test and three one-day international tour in May.

Sri Lanka want to change the dates or instead replace them with five one-day matches.

The ECB could yet decide to invite Bangladesh instead, who would be the third country earmarked for the early part of next summer. Sri Lanka were originally asked to replace Zimbabwe when the Government and the ECB decided they would not be welcome in the country.

[auntu]

both Sl n Eng player r not interested to play anything except IPL!

How money changes ur stance..

[BANFAN]

if it is BD in Eng, we will have a good practice, but results will be highly demoralizing. JS needs a Ken tour to beef up stats. :) BD team (BCB) may not agree to go as well.

[Rabz]

So, IF they end up inviting us, and in turn, some of our players gets invited/picked for the IPL teams.

I mean the IPl teams can still recruit new players for the next season, cant they?

What happens then?

Can Ash, Mash overlook thousands of dollars for hapless drabbing all in the name of national duty?

[cricman]

They can impress and play English 20/20

1.3 Billion Pounds!!!!!!, Thats 3 Billion USD!

[auntu]

r we really going to have the chance or otherwise A teams performance would come in consideration. I can still remember BD's last tour to ENG, horrible. Mushfiq played as a specialized batsman.