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Miraz
December 23, 2007, 09:24 AM
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An interesting read from New Zealand Herald,

Mark Richardson: Time to see if lessons were learnt

5:00AM Sunday December 23, 2007
By Mark Richardson (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/author/index.cfm?a_id=197)

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Summer of cricket (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/feature/index.cfm?c_id=1501787)
Cricket: NZ going on offensive to counter ICL raids (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/feature/story.cfm?c_id=1501787&objectid=10483955)
Dylan Cleaver: Adams too good to be excluded from test team (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/feature/story.cfm?c_id=1501787&objectid=10483956) It is fair enough to express disappointment and concern from the last few months' proceedings but it is unfair to judge them solely on the past couple of months. The Black Caps will beat Bangladesh and beat them well. If they don't, then harsh judgement will rain down and fairly so.
Forget test matches for the time being because the Black Caps have not been flash at those for some time (and have played very few of them for some time). Sure, Australia dished out a couple of hideous hidings and the series was lost in South Africa but let's put all that into perspective.
Both teams are ranked above us which in itself doesn't make it OK to lose because you are always aiming to improve but teams are ranked higher because they are better.
New Zealand were competitive in South Africa and various players stood out.

Read full (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10483958)

Rabz
December 23, 2007, 11:42 AM
Sounds like he has already started the bullying on papers.
Good that our players wont spent much time reading NZ local dailies.

I wonder what he has to say after today's match.

Miraz
December 23, 2007, 12:21 PM
This one is from BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/bangladesh/7158243.stm)

Bangladesh break New Zealand duck

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</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- E IIMA --> <!-- S SF --> Bangladesh won their first ever match in New Zealand and took a psychological edge for the one-day series, beating a New Zealand XI in their Twenty20 match. The home side, including five one-day squad members and five on the fringes, fell by four wickets in Hamilton.
James Marshall hit 33 off 26 balls, while Scott Styris scored 29 as the hosts made 133-7 off their 20 overs.
After a tough start, Farhad Reza hit 31 off 17 balls and Mushfiqur Rahim scored the winning run in the 17th over. <!-- E SF -->
Previously on this tour, Bangladesh had lost one-day matches to a Northern Districts provincial side and to Auckland.
They failed to achieve a win in any form of the game on their first two tours to the country.
However, the New Zealand XI struggled throughout their 20 overs after they were sent in to bat.
Tigers opening bowler Shahadat Hossain returned 3-15 off his four overs.
Bangladesh made easy work of the run chase, although Saqibul Hasan and Shahadat Hossain both made 22, while both Mohammad Ashraful and Aftab Ahmed were run out for 20.
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The match was played to help raise money for World Vision's relief fund to alleviate the damage suffered in Bangladesh from Cyclone Sidr in November.
International Cricket Council chief executive Malcolm Speed presented the team's management with a cheque for US$250,000 [£126,000] before the match.
The first game of the three-match one-day series is on Wednesday at Eden Park in Auckland before the series moves to Napier and Queenstown.
The two sides will then play a two-match Test series.<!-- E BO -->

Miraz
December 23, 2007, 12:23 PM
And this one from Stuff.co.nz (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4335628a1823.html)


Bangladesh humbles NZ team


New Zealand's confidence-sapped batsmen constructed another worrying string of failures to lose a Twenty20 charity cricket match to Bangladesh at Seddon Park in Hamilton last night.
Not only did Bangladesh break its duck in the fourth match of its tour with a four-wicket win, an impressive allround display hinted it may not be the pushover many expected.
Bangladesh overhauled its target of 134 with comparative ease, having three overs in hand - the perfect fillip after losses to Northern Districts and Auckland.
After enduring a disastrous start to the summer in South Africa and Australia, three specialist New Zealand batsmen who survived that nine-week experience had an opportunity to rediscover some touch before the tour proper starts with the first of three one-day internationals in Auckland on Wednesday.
However, far from reinforcing its easybeat tag the Bangladeshi bowling attack posed serious problems for the core of the top order.
Asked to bat first in perfect conditions the New Zealand 11 made hard work of compiling 133 for seven.
Paceman Shahadat Hossain proved particularly difficult, taking an impressive three for 15 off four overs.
Of the batsmen, only Scott Styris showed a semblance of form after Bangladesh captain Mohammad Ashraful opted to bowl first in perfect conditions.
Opener Jamie How was the first to succumb when he snicked Shahadat Hossain to first slip for 10 in the third over.
Stephen Fleming, captaining a New Zealand side for the last time, looked as if he had not batted since dislocating a thumb during the first test against South Africa in November, while Peter Fulton, on the comeback trail from minor knee surgery, also looked ponderous despite his good form for Canterbury in the domestic State Championship.
Fulton had a let-off when on 1 as four fielders could not connect with a steepler at third man.
However, he could not add to the two runs he managed, and was out without addition, driving uppishly to mid-off.
Opening bowlers Hossain and Sajidul Islam gave little latitude over the first six overs as New Zealand crawled to 19 for two, pedestrian even by one-day standards.
Fleming finally broke the shackles in Sajidul's fourth and final over with consecutive boundaries but he fell in Mohammad Ashraful's first over for 17 to leave the home side at an uninspiring 49 for three at the halfway mark.
Ross Taylor fell to an injudicious slog sweep when on 15 to give Ashraful his second scalp. Styris excited the crowd with the innings' first six in the 15th over but he was gone inside two overs trying to repeat the feat.
Northern Districts captain James Marshall added much-needed impetus at the death and topscored with an unbeaten 33.
Bangladesh launched a more energetic response at the start of its run chase but also paid the price for a superior run rate with Tamim Iqbal and opening partner Zunaed Siddique both falling cheaply to expansive shots.
Tamim wore the fourth ball off the innings - a bouncer from Michael Mason - on the helmet and was caught hooking two deliveries later to depart for a duck.
Siddique soon exited for four before Ashraful and Aftab Ahmed started peppering the ropes.
Both made quickfire 20s before underdoing their promising work with suicidal running between the wickets.
Bangladesh was ahead of the run rate at the halfway mark at 77 for four and although Shakhib Hasan was the third run-out victim nine runs later, Mehrab Hossain scored 22 not out and Farhad Reza 31 to ensure that the tourists prevailed.

BanCricFan
December 23, 2007, 12:23 PM
A tad misguided over-confidence on Marks part that NZ should win well against BD. Then again, he is an old school. Perhaps, its difficult for ex-players like him to see that BD has come leaps and bounds over the last few years- not necessarily with the right results but capable and talented players.

He is on the money though about good players not allowing the lesser players to get into the game. This Australia has done so well and so consistently over the years.

Rabz
December 23, 2007, 12:46 PM
Christmas came early for those marketing and PR people.

They couldnt ask for more.

Miraz
December 23, 2007, 06:46 PM
Bangladesh no walk in the park - Fleming

Tourists beat NZ XI in Twenty20 clash


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After witnessing Bangladesh at close range for the first time since the cricket World Cup, Stephen Fleming has warned the upcoming one-day series will not necessarily be plain sailing for the Black Caps.
Bangladesh notched their first win on tour against a New Zealand XI on Seddon Park last night, a four-wicket win in a Twenty20 match designed to raise funds for the relief effort after Cyclone Sidr cut a swathe though the south of the country last month.
Determined to do well for such an important cause, Bangladesh also indicated the three-match one-day series, which starts in Auckland on Boxing Day, may not be as one sided as the teams' history suggests.
New Zealand are yet lose an official ODI against Bangladesh, having recorded eight successive wins – a relative rarity as the sub-continental minnows have made a habit of upsetting the sport's powerhouses.
Bangladesh stunned a lackadaisical Australia before the 2005 Ashes and pulled off two surprises at the World Cup in the West Indies nine months where they basically eliminated India before upsetting South Africa in the Super Eights stage.


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Murad
December 23, 2007, 07:09 PM
Thanks Miraz bhai.
I like this guy. He always talks sensibly unlike his follower(Vettory). Vettory is yet to get any success as a captain but talking like he's Ponting of Australia. He considers the matches against Bangladesh as practice for the matches against England.

Vettory is another J Crowe. However, Crowe warned Vettory that if he cannot do anything in this series then he has to given up captaincy.

Nocturnal
December 23, 2007, 07:28 PM
Bangladesh no walk in the park - Fleming
Read full (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/waikatotimes/4336210a6648.html)

I liked this one, Fleming was very positive while talking about Bangladesh team.

kalpurush
December 23, 2007, 07:50 PM
Here's an interesting one(!)::)

Bangladesh strike blow against Kiwis
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Hamilton: Bangladesh gained a psychological edge over a hapless Kiwi cricket side on Sunday when they beat a New Zealand XI by four wickets in a Twenty20 match.

The Black Caps were looking for a morale-boosting performance after being thrashed in back-to-back away series by South Africa and Australia in the past two months.

Instead, the international minnows further dented their confidence, wrapping up the match with three overs to spare.

The New Zealand XI included five members of the squad to face Bangladesh in a series of three One-Day Internationals starting on Wednesday, and another five with international experience who are pushing for a recall.

The match was organised to raise funds for victims of Cyclone Sidr, which killed at least 3,200 people and destroyed more than a million homes when it struck Bangladesh last month.

New Zealand, sent in to bat first, struggled throughout their 20 overs and could only post a modest 133 for seven.

Former international James Marshall top scored with 33 and Scott Styris made 29, while opening bowler Shahadat Hossain returned the impressive figures of three for 15 off four overs.

The New Zealand score was helped by Peter Fulton (3) and Ross Taylor (15) surviving appeals when television replays indicated they were caught behind.

Bangladesh made easy work of the run chase, scoring 134 for six in 17 overs. Farhad Reza was caught behind for 31, Saqibul Hasan and Shahadat Hossain both made 22, while both Mohammad Ashraful and Aftab Ahmed were run out for 20.

Source:
http://www.cricketnext.com/news/bangladesh-strike-blow-against-kiwis/28480-13.html



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Eshen
December 23, 2007, 07:57 PM
Umpiring standard in this tour is really starting to worry me.

Murad
December 23, 2007, 07:59 PM
Umpiring standard in this tour is really starting to worry me.

Don't worry brother. We are going to have a neutral umpire in the ODI series. The umpires in these practice matches were all locals.

Eshen
December 23, 2007, 08:06 PM
Don't worry brother. We are going to have a neutral umpire in the ODI series. The umpires in these practice matches were all locals.
You are right, but there still will be one local umpire in ODIs. However, both the umps will be neutral during test series.

Series match referee – Chris Broad

26 Dec – New Zealand v Bangladesh (ODI), Auckland – Steve Bucknor and local appointment

28 Dec – New Zealand v Bangladesh (ODI), Napier – Steve Bucknor and local appointment

31 Dec – New Zealand and Bangladesh (ODI), Queenstown - Nigel Llong and local appointment

4-8 Jan – New Zealand and Bangladesh (Test), Dunedin – Nigel Llong and Peter Parker

12-16 Jan – New Zealand and Bangladesh (Test), Wellington, Nigel Llong and Peter Parker

http://icc-cricket.yahoo.com/media-release/2007/december/media-release20071212-16.html

Antora
December 23, 2007, 08:16 PM
Thanks for sharing the articles :)

Miraz
December 23, 2007, 08:49 PM
This post is for record... BanglaCricket preview package for New Zealand series..

We have the singular pleasure of being able to publish not one but two tour previews, with the added pleasure of being able to peruse views from both sides.

We present:


Bangladesh in New Zealand: Preview - Bangladesh must rise to the occasion
Khondaker Mirazur Rahman
After Bangladesh's giant killing act in the recent World Cup, most cricket pundits thought that the youthful Bangladesh side is finally coming of age and will soon be a significant force in world cricket. On the contrary, Bangladesh decided to prove the pundits wrong with some awful and woeful performances since then. Bangladesh’s performance against India at home and in the away series against Sri Lanka once again provided much negative fodder for the critics.
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Bangladesh in New Zealand: Preview - New Zealand
Andrew Mclean
Andrew McLean, a presenter of The Cricket Club- New Zealand's only national radio cricket show, writes his views on Bangladesh's tour of New Zealand for BanglaCricket
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New front page articles: Bangladesh in New Zealand tour previews (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=24753)

Miraz
December 25, 2007, 02:35 PM
New Zealand press is putting sufficient pressure on the Kiwis


Testting times for Cricket

As the leftover trifle is scooped into breakfast bowls, it has become a tradition for The Dominion Post to lobby for the return of the Boxing Day cricket test to the Basin Reserve.
What better way to dispose of the remaining ham and turkey than to consume it while listening to the thwack of willow on leather at the Basin? But not this year. Our spirit has been broken, not by the feckless administrators who fail to see the value of establishing a cricketing tradition in the capital, but by the sorry procession of New Zealand sports teams that have trooped off to world championships with high hopes and returned empty-handed.
Sports fans are in a delicate emotional state and we are not sure our readers could stomach further humiliation. Watching Bangladesh's unheralded medium pacers rip through the top of the New Zealand batting order - like every other attack that has bowled at the Black Caps in recent times - could cause lifelong cricket lovers to turn for relaxation to macrame or embroidery.
To be fair, the cricketers have not been alone in disappointing their fans. The rotated and reconditioned, or should that be deconditioned, All Blacks finished a miserable seventh or eighth at the Rugby World Cup, the netballers lost to the old foe, Australia, the America's Cup yachties fell at the final hurdle in Valencia and the Kiwi rugby league team ran up the white flag against the Australians and the British.
As a country, New Zealand has long punched above its weight in international sport, but our sporting reputation appears to be at risk from a new breed of administrators and coaches who have devoted themselves to coming up with strange new ways to prepare for international competition.
The All Black coaches decided the best way to prepare the country's leading rugby players for the World Cup was to stop them playing. Their cricket counterparts have been seduced by the science of biomechanics - a theory that, according to batting great Martin Crowe, values hand speed and economy of movement more highly than the old-fashioned virtues of footwork and getting in behind the ball. Cricket's bosses have also managed to take enough fun out of the game to persuade proven performers such as Nathan Astle and Craig McMillan to retire.
The worst administrative performance of all came from league's bosses. Following what is admittedly a well-worn path for their sport, they snatched disaster from the jaws of triumph by substituting coaching novice Gary Kemble for Brian "Bluey" McClennan, a man with a history of defeating both Australia and Great Britain.
The netballers gave their all but, like their rugby counterparts, couldn't deliver when it mattered most - the rare quality that separates the sporting great from the sporting good. So Aucklanders are welcome to today's one-day international against Bangladesh at Eden Park. We hope they can be bothered to turn up and we hope the Black Caps don't give them cause to choke on their turkey and ham sandwiches.
We'll check out the sporting possibilities offered by the Boxing Day sales and maybe fire up the barbecue.
Next year is a different story, though. We want the Boxing Day test back.


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zainab
December 26, 2007, 02:59 PM
Nigel Long is one of the fairest umpires around. He is very careful about his decisions.

Eshen
December 26, 2007, 09:16 PM
Vettori urged to bat first tomorrow

http://www.hbtoday.co.nz/localsport/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3759381&thesection=localsport&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

WHEN the local chief executive reckons you win the toss and bat, it's best to heed his advice.

Tomorrow's one-day international between New Zealand and Bangladesh at McLean Park will be no different, with Central Districts Cricket Association supremo Blair Furlong (pictured below) predicting big things for the team the coin falls in favour of.

That's because the look of this deck supports such a forecast, as does recent history.

"[Groundsman] Phil [Stoyanoff] is out in the middle with the roller now and I checked the pitch yesterday and it looked great," Furlong said this morning.

"He had the 13-tonne roller on it last week and it's as flat as a tack. Phil's rolled the grass right into the wicket, so there's a good grass covering which will give it pace and bounce and mean the ball doesn't burr on the clay.

"I'd say whoever wins the toss will bat first and be looking to score at least 300."

This will be the number four strip's first outing of the season and in the only previous match on McLean Park this season - the four-dayer between CD and Wellington - 1327 runs were scored for the loss of just 25 wickets.

Plus, in the last four ODIs at the ground, 273 is the lowest score compiled by the team batting first.

"There can be no complaints about the surface and it'll just be interesting to see how many people we get along," Furlong said.

"I got a call from the visitor information centre the other day, wanting details about it.

"It's hard to know with Bangladesh, but if they're getting inquiries, I'd say there is interest.

"I would expect us to get somewhere between six and seven thousand along.

"That's what you'd expect for a game like this and I think both New Zealand Cricket and Central Districts would be happy with that."

And regular CD skipper Jamie How. He made a half century on debut for New Zealand on December 31, 2005, against Sri Lanka, missed out in the next match and then, with his friends and family in town, was omitted from the side for the match here in Napier.

He's been in around the Black Caps' squad ever since, but not for a fixture at McLean Park.

A maiden ODI hundred in front of the home fans tomorrow would more than make up for that.

Murad
December 26, 2007, 09:23 PM
How and Century?? Mogher mullok paise naki??

If they bat first they won't be able to pass 250, forget 300. Mark my word!

Eshen
December 26, 2007, 11:37 PM
McCullum out to build on victory

http://www.blackcaps.co.nz/content/blackcaps/latestblackcapsnews/10974/mccullum-victory.aspx

BLACKCAPS vice-captain Brendon McCullum has urged the importance of earning back-to-back victories over Bangladesh.

The team returned to winning ways with their six-wicket defeat of the Tigers in the first National Bank ODI in Auckland on Boxing Day.

And they will look to ensure a decisive second victory in the National Bank Series at Napier’s McLean Park.

However, McCullum insists there will be no complacency among the BLACKCAPS after recent results, with the aim to maintain a high level of performance displayed at Eden Park.

“For us, it’s hugely important, looking at what we have coming up in the rest of the year, that we do win and win well,” he said.

“We want to win 3-0 and we should win 3-0, but it’s all about trying to build confidence in the unit and trying to get some results on the win column rather than the other side of the ledger.”

McCullum also said he was enjoying an extended run as an opening batsman.

“I’m looking to make my contribution from the top. I’ve got a great opportunity to make a hundred every time I go out to bat and not many guys get that opportunity,” he added.

“I’m enjoying it and I’m learning every day. It’s a great chance to set games up and if I get the chance to make the contributions that I want, and that I’m craving, then the team will have a lot more success as well.

“It’s also nice to be in that role where you can dictate games. Whether that’s soaking it up at the start or playing a bit more aggressively, I think it’s a role that suited to me and if I can progress at the rate I’m hoping to then the team will gain the rewards.”

Both teams carry the same squads into the second game of the three-match series, with Jeetan Patel an option after serving 12th man duties at Eden Park.

IanW
December 27, 2007, 06:32 AM
Interesting Sportal article from NZ

http://sportal.co.nz/Cricket-news-display/coach-lays-blame-on-captain-40878

Note Siddon's comments at the end ...



However, Siddons is building for the future with his youngsters and says the best is yet to come.
"We've got guys straight of the U19 side in our middle order that are struggling a bit but if we stick with them they'll be good players eventually.
"We're capable of losing some games at the point but the long-term plan will hopefully reap some reward for Bangladesh cricket in the future."

nzfan
December 27, 2007, 06:39 AM
I do expect a big first innings score(270+) tomorrow the boundaries at mclean park are small, so If Bnagladesh bats first and expects to win 250 won't be enough i feel

Eshen
December 28, 2007, 06:53 PM
Bite in Taylor catch decision

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10484588

Mohammad Ashraful says he was not out, but New Zealand captain Daniel Vettori backed the umpires' decision to send him packing in a controversial incident during yesterday's ODI win.

The Bangladesh captain, who had thumped 70 off New Zealand at Eden Park on Boxing Day, was on three when Ross Taylor took a low catch at cover. Ashraful stood his ground. Umpires Peter Parker and Tony Hill conferred before confirming the catch.

"I felt it was not out, but at the end of the day it was the umpires decision," Ashraful said last night.

Vettori, unsurprisingly, took the other tack.

"You saw Ross' reaction. He left it in the umpires hands and they made the call. From what I've heard it was the right call," Vettori said.

And Vettori confirmed there had been some needle late in the Bangladesh innings, after they had long given up any hope of chasing down New Zealand's imposing 335 for five.

"I think we were probably a little frustrated about the style of play going on," he said.

"We thought Bangladesh should have been chasing a little harder. If you're chasing 330 you have to take a few risks."

Vettori said the foot will be down hard to wrap up the series in Queenstown on Monday.

"We're expected to win 3-0. If we go there and get tripped up then this series is almost a disappointment for us. We have to go down and make our mark."

Bangladesh coach Jamie Siddons was philosophical about yesterday's heavy defeat.

"These are young players and it's going to take time. We are going to suffer some pain, there's no way round it," he said.

Beamer
December 29, 2007, 01:06 AM
Yeah..my foot. That was no catch. Saw it on TV, as did million others, maybe Vettori needs new specs. Scoop Taylor shouldn't play sports. Proper line of work should be old car salesman..

Eshen
December 29, 2007, 02:41 AM
Damage limitation the key for Bangladesh

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4340117a1823.html
Bangladesh's Australian coach Jamie Siddons conceded a special set of circumstances were needed to salvage a consolation win before the tests.

"We don't pretend that we're going to compete with New Zealand on a regular basis at this point in time," he said after the hosts' 102-run, rain-affected victory at McLean Park.

"We are learning, but it's going to take time. They're young players, some are only playing their first or second game of their lives at this level," Siddons said, referring to Iqbal's opening partner Zunaed Siddique, who made his one-day international debut in Auckland.

"There's a learning curve they have to go through and we're going to suffer some pain. We're suffering that pain now -- there's no way around it."

Siddons, a prolific runscorer for South Australia during his playing days, has seen enough in his openers to be convinced they have a long-term future in the game.

Their 63-run opening stand yesterday, as Bangladesh were set a 336 to square the series, was a case in point.

"Both openers have impressed me, I love the look of Tamim, Siddons said.

"There's big futures there - they're not intimidated or worried by the moving ball. They look really bright prospects."

Ashraful and Aftab Ahmed are also dangerous if and when they come off but Siddons admitted if the top order do not set a challenging total, the bowlers have little to work with.

"If the ball's not swinging or spinning which it didn't (in Napier) we're up against it," Siddons said.

"I thought we bowled really well but our pace just isn't up there. Our opening bowlers (Mashrafe Mortaza and Shahadat Hossain) going at 130-132kph as opposed to 140s .... it's really hard to contain when you can't bounce them and have that little `get out' ball."

The Queenstown pitch traditionally offers a little more encouragement for the pace bowlers, though New Zealand's quartet will also be eyeing a batting lineup that, once Ashraful is gone, looks particularly vulnerable.

New Zealand captain Daniel Vettori thought the tourist town was the ideal location to complete a 3-0 whitewash.

"It's usually a pretty good stomping ground for us against sub-continent sides, we make our mark with the ball more often than not," he said, a view backed up by statistics.

New Zealand have won four of their five matches at Queenstown, a six-wicket loss to Pakistan the only aberration in 2004.

They have beaten India and Sri Lanka twice, though the last win was a one-wicket nailbiter 12 months ago.

Second spinner Jeetan Patel looms as the unlucky squad member again, with pace the weapon of choice.

Mark Gillespie will undergo another assessment on his injured left shoulder tomorrow, he only managed an over in Napier before crying off.

Fellow-right armer Michael Mason joined the squad today as cover.

kalpurush
December 29, 2007, 02:53 AM
[quote=Eshen;590977]Bite in Taylor catch decision
The Bangladesh captain, who had thumped 70 off New Zealand at Eden Park on Boxing Day, was on three when Ross Taylor took a low catch at cover. Ashraful stood his ground. Umpires Peter Parker and Tony Hill conferred before confirming the catch.

"I felt it was not out, but at the end of the day it was the umpires decision," Ashraful said last night.

Vettori, unsurprisingly, took the other tack.

"You saw Ross' reaction. He left it in the umpires hands and they made the call. From what I've heard it was the right call," Vettori said.

চোরের মা'র গলা বড়!:timeout:
ভেট্টরি কি টিভি রিপ্লেও দেখতে পারেনা?!! এমনই কানা?!!!L-)

cricket_king
December 29, 2007, 03:29 AM
We have to pummel the crap out of New Zealand as revenge for Friday's loss. Humiliation of the opposition should be the only satisfaction for our boys. Humiliate them. Humiliate them like Sri Lanka humiliate us.

Eshen
December 29, 2007, 01:54 PM
Dubious catch - Taylor favours a video umpire

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10484715
Taylor, who appeared confident as he ran to congratulate bowler Kyle Mills, was not as certain today when asked about the legitimacy of the catch.

"I thought I had most of it [the ball]. I went over to the umpires and they gave it out," he said, after the teams arrived in Queenstown for tomorrow's dead rubber.

"All I know is I wasn't 100 per cent sure whether I caught the ball."

He admitted as much to Ashraful in the dressing room after the match and wondered if it was time for contentious catches to be referred to the third umpire.

"I'm not sure of the rule (for referring matters to the third umpire) but maybe technology could come in a bit more."

Currently, catches cannot be referred to the third umpire to study a video replay if umpires had a clear view of the incident.

It is then at their discretion, while the fielder also has a bearing if he knows for sure whether the catch was effected or not.

"It's a difficult situation," Taylor admitted.

"I've seen so many people take catches when they genuinely thought they caught them but they hadn't."

Murad
December 29, 2007, 02:14 PM
Well, he is right. It's umpires fault. They should have referred it to the TV umpire. Stupid umpires. Why aren't they getting punishment?

kalpurush
December 29, 2007, 03:05 PM
Well, he is right. It's umpires fault. They should have referred it to the TV umpire. Stupid umpires. Why aren't they getting punishment?
He is NOT right. He knew he didn't catch the ball. Pls. read his own comment!:(

akabir77
December 29, 2007, 03:08 PM
today in cricinfo vittory is big mouthing about bd chase of 300+. I think he is trying to follow Pointing without any thing to back it up with.

How can he say we should have gone all blazing when they take catches which r not and their management make sure they have the ump that will favor them!!!

Pak wktkpr was suspended for 3/5 matches for doing the same. WHy is the law is different here? because they have white skin?

kalpurush
December 29, 2007, 03:16 PM
today in cricinfo vittory is big mouthing about bd chase of 300+. I think he is trying to follow Pointing without any thing to back it up with.

How can he say we should have gone all blazing when they take catches which r not and their management make sure they have the ump that will favor them!!!

Pak wktkpr was suspended for 3/5 matches for doing the same. WHy is the law is different here? because they have white skin?
You said it...Kabir vai.

Murad
December 29, 2007, 03:18 PM
He is NOT right. He knew he didn't catch the ball. Pls. read his own comment!:(

Well.. yeah. he's not fully right.

But still it's umpire's fault. He has the rights to appeal for it. And its umpire's job to judge it, which they didn't. They should have called the 3rd umpire. Those MF Umpires are corrupted. They took money from NZ. If I could get them, i would have give them some lomba bash.

I think we have to wait to see if anyone getting punished after the ODI series ends.

kalpurush
December 29, 2007, 03:31 PM
Well.. yeah. he's not fully right.

But still it's umpire's fault. He has the rights to appeal for it. And its umpire's job to judge it, which they didn't. They should have called the 3rd umpire. Those MF Umpires are corrupted. They took money from NZ. If I could get them, i would have give them some lomba bash.

I think we have to wait to see if anyone getting punished after the ODI series ends.
Now I agree!:) Though, I doubt about any punishment...only if it was Zimbabwe!!

Nafis_BD
December 29, 2007, 03:47 PM
Pak wktkpr was suspended for 3/5 matches for doing the same. WHy is the law is different here? because they have white skin?

Absolutely!!! what's the difference here?? We should boycott against this!! Not acceptable in a game which is know as "The gentleman's game" it's just not acceptable!!

israr
December 29, 2007, 03:59 PM
No probs, let the kiwis have some warm-ups before they receive the actual humilation. A real agony is waiting for you guys from our tigers' claws.

Murad
December 29, 2007, 08:53 PM
Bangladesh skipper's fighting talk
'We will show you what we're capable of'

By RICHARD BOOCK - Sunday Star Times | Sunday, 30 December 2007

Bangladesh skipper Mohammad Ashraful is demanding his team lift their performance ahead of tomorrow's third and final one-dayer against New Zealand, describing their effort in the previous outing at Napier as "unacceptable".

The 23-year-old batsman arrived yesterday in Queenstown to prepare for the series finale and wasted no time in laying down the gauntlet to his players, saying their performance on Friday had reflected poorly on the team in general.

New Zealand beat Bangladesh by a comfortable six-wicket margin at Eden Park on Boxing Day and then smashed them by a Duckworth-Lewis calculated 102 runs at McLean Park after racking up 335 batting first.

However Ashraful, by far the most dangerous weapon in the Bangladeshi arsenal, was confident the tourists would respond in a positive fashion to the setback, and would tomorrow show the Central Otago holiday crowd and the New Zealand team what they were capable of.

"I believe we can recover from the performance at Napier," he said yesterday. "Our effort in that match was not up to our usual standard and we're capable of playing much better than that hopefully we can prove that here in Queenstown.

"We need to lift our game in all the main areas but particularly in terms of producing a better performance in our middle-order. We can't afford to lose wickets so quickly; we need to make better decisions when the pressure is on."

New Zealand will also be under some pressure to complete the clean-sweep, knowing that just one slip-up tomorrow would send them tumbling from third to fourth place on the International Cricket Council's ODI rankings.

They have a cloud over paceman Mark Gillespie, whose shoulder injury will be monitored at practice today, and have brought Michael Mason into the squad as cover.

Bangladesh will move on to Dunedin on Tuesday to begin preparations for the opening test at the University Oval, and Ashraful said he was looking forward to the side being boosted by specialists Habibul Bashar, Shahriar Nafees and Enamul Haque (jr) who fly into Auckland today.

Bangladesh have won just a solitary test in 49 attempts, and that was against a horribly weakened Zimbabwe team in 2004-05.

However, Ashraful said he didn't buy into recent suggestions that New Zealand were ready to fall over in the test arena, just because they received a towelling at the start of their summer in South Africa.

"I don't think New Zealand are vulnerable in the tests, despite what happened to them in South Africa," he said. "They're a good side; they fight very hard and they're especially tough to play in their own conditions."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4340517a10133.html

Ahmed_B
December 30, 2007, 12:14 AM
[বাংলা]খাইছে! আশরাফুলের বড় বড় কথা স্টার্ট হয়ে গেছে! মাইর এবার একটাও মাটিতে পড়বে না![/বাংলা]

nzfan
December 30, 2007, 01:14 AM
what the hell? did you really say that? the New zealand team buying out the umpires, you must have an iq less than 50.

cricket_king
December 30, 2007, 08:36 AM
what the hell? did you really say that? the New zealand team buying out the umpires, you must have an iq less than 50.

It was obvious exaggeration. You seem to be the one with the lack of IQ. Best we stop having a cry over that match. Tomorrow's match should now be our focus. Mills has to be dealt with in proper fashion. If Gillespie plays, he should be pummelled for quick runs, same goes for Martin with his wayward line. I hope they've practiced facing the short ball, because I can bet all my money they'll be banging them in quite frequently.

cricket_king
December 30, 2007, 08:43 AM
today in cricinfo vittory is big mouthing about bd chase of 300+. I think he is trying to follow Pointing without any thing to back it up with.

How can he say we should have gone all blazing when they take catches which r not and their management make sure they have the ump that will favor them!!!

Pak wktkpr was suspended for 3/5 matches for doing the same. WHy is the law is different here? because they have white skin?

Firstly Ponting always backs up his statements by winning continuously. Secondly Taylor is not white. He is of New Zealand-Maori origin I believe. Perhaps you should back up your statements rather than mindlessly blabbering away. Yes it was an unfair match. But the Bangladeshi members are clearly overreacting now. It's gone way too far.

Miraz
December 30, 2007, 09:31 AM
Ashraful wants a strong end

TC report

QUEENSTOWN: The Bangladesh team trained at the picturesque Queenstown Events Centre today (Sunday) ahead of tomorrow’s third and final ODI against New Zealand. The Tigers may have conceded the series but a good all-round performance and preferably a win would do wonders to their level of confidence in the coming two-match Test series.
“It is very important that we keep improving and implement the plans thoroughly in this last one-dayer. We know we can play much better cricket and we want to end the year on a high because we have done some pretty remarkable things in two World Cups this year,” said captain Mohammad Ashraful after the squad practised for two and a half hours at the Events Centre in the afternoon.
“The important thing for us in batting would be to not lose wickets rapidly after a big partnership. The set batsman must go on and there must be one batsman from the top-order who will be there in the last 10 overs of the innings. In bowling we just have to find ways to get early wickets. We have not managed these things so far in this series,” Ashraful added.
The pitch looked similar to the ones Bangladesh have found in the other venues and run-scoring should not be a problem here also if the batsmen can apply themselves.
“All our batsmen have looked comfortable against that (New Zealand) attack which means we have adapted well to the conditions here. It is just that we have got out,” said Ashraful.


Read full (http://tigercricket.com/viewNews.aspx?newsID=484)

Eshen
January 2, 2008, 01:53 PM
Fingers crossed for the University pitch

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=29&objectid=10485065

The worry beads have been put away, although fingers remain crossed.

Otago officials are quietly optimistic that the University Oval pitch will be in good shape for its test debut.

The first test against Bangladesh starts at New Zealand's seventh and newest test venue tomorrow. A month ago you wouldn't have bet the house on it being ready after a match between Otago and Auckland was over inside two days, courtesy of a green and unready pitch.

New Zealand Cricket heads got together, chief turf assessor Jarrod Carter headed south from Christchurch and has spent a fair amount of the intervening four weeks in Dunedin. The problems were identified as the moisture content being too high, and an overly dense covering of grass.

"There's no shying away from the fact it wasn't an ideal pitch and we've been establishing a procedure so it won't happen again," Otago Cricket chief executive Ross Dykes said yesterday. "The grass has been thinned out and the moisture and density levels continually monitored. Those levels are what they should be and we are confident it's as good as we can get it."

Dykes talked of the "learning experience" of the past few weeks, with a new groundsman Tom Tamati having a tough introduction to international cricket.

"Turf culture is always a learning experience, and the greater the bank of knowledge you've got, the better you are able to prepare a pitch."

Sun yesterday would have been helpful to brown off the top of the pitch. However, occasional drizzle and heavy cloud cover didn't help. Still, Dykes believes the ground staff are half a day ahead with preparations.

It's a critical week for the ground, and Otago officials hope the ground passes its first examination with more ticks than crosses. "This is a huge step for us and we've got to get it right, not just the pitch, but the whole infrastructure of the ground to prove it can cope," Dykes said.

Yesterday, the pitch still had plenty of grass but the Kakanui clay needs the grass as a binding agent. It will have a haircut today and plenty of rolling with the hope of producing a good surface, if on the low and slow side.

Neither captain will be tossing and turning over what to do should he win the toss. The choice will be to bowl - in New Zealand's case to maintain the heat on Bangladesh's batsmen they managed during the ODI series clean sweep; Bangladesh captain Mohammad Ashraful will see it as their best chance of getting early wickets and a toehold in the match, at least on day one.

The University Oval is a pleasant setting and there is a strong desire to get international cricket back in the deep south. The last test was 10 years ago; the most recent ODI in 2004, both at Carisbrook.

One man who is delighted the test is here is Otago opener Craig Cumming, who has held his place after having his cheekbone smashed by a Dale Steyn bouncer in South Africa in November when he missed an attempted pull shot.

"It won't be the bounciest and fastest we've played on but it'll be good," Cumming said.

"I played here when it had an old wooden stand and a bumpy outfield. It's exciting for Otago cricket."

Cumming is a doughty, tough-minded customer and the selectors have recognised that. He had six plates inserted around the right cheek, another above an eye but he was ready to get back in the middle two weeks after the Centurion incident, which occurred when he had made a solid 48.

Cumming and opening partner Matthew Bell have never batted together but share similar history.

"We've both experienced highs and lows and it's important to have confidence in one another," Cumming added. "If you're getting off to a good start all the guys are going to be more relaxed and it's no secret when you're relaxed you play your best cricket."

Eshen
January 3, 2008, 12:48 AM
Vettori returns to unhappy hunting ground

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4343875a1823.html

"The only time I've played here (for Northern Districts) Bradley Scott hit me for about five sixes, it was pretty demoralising," he said.

Vettori's left-arm spinners are not likely to cop similar treatment, although the boundaries, particularly down the ground, are invitingly short.

Despite taking career-best figures of five for seven in the third and final one-dayer in Queenstown on Monday, Vettori's influence in Dunedin seems likely to be confined to juggling his seamers when Bangladesh bat.

He signalled his intention to defy popular cricketing wisdom and bowl first should he win the toss, offering two explanations.

"There will probably be a little bit in it early and then it'll flatten out. And if (overcast) overhead conditions continue I'll try and insert them and try and get an advantage out of it."

New Zealand have had precious little opportunity to assess the most talked about pitch in the country as it has invariably been under cover.

Rain has disrupted both of the team's practice sessions although Bangladesh have been blessed with fine afternoons on their visits to the venue.

Vettori was aware of the debate surrounding the wicket block after Otago's domestic four-day match against Auckland a month ago lasted less than two days, but was confident the pitch would be suitable.

"It was almost a blessing in disguise for the ground. It put so much spotlight on it they had to put a lot of effort into getting it right," he said.

"The spikes go in pretty easily so that's a good sign. There will be a little bit of moisture in it early on before it turns into a road."

Bangladesh's preference is also thought to be bowl first, with early wickets their best hope of grabbing some ascendancy.

Imtiazk
January 3, 2008, 02:29 AM
Fingers crossed for the University pitch

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=29&objectid=10485065

New Zealand Cricket heads got together, chief turf assessor Jarrod Carter headed south from Christchurch and has spent a fair amount of the intervening four weeks in Dunedin. The problems were identified as the moisture content being too high, and an overly dense covering of grass.

"There's no shying away from the fact it wasn't an ideal pitch and we've been establishing a procedure so it won't happen again," Otago Cricket chief executive Ross Dykes said yesterday. "The grass has been thinned out and the moisture and density levels continually monitored. Those levels are what they should be and we are confident it's as good as we can get it."

Dykes talked of the "learning experience" of the past few weeks, with a new groundsman Tom Tamati having a tough introduction to international cricket.

"Turf culture is always a learning experience, and the greater the bank of knowledge you've got, the better you are able to prepare a pitch."

Sun yesterday would have been helpful to brown off the top of the pitch. However, occasional drizzle and heavy cloud cover didn't help. Still, Dykes believes the ground staff are half a day ahead with preparations.

It's a critical week for the ground, and Otago officials hope the ground passes its first examination with more ticks than crosses. "This is a huge step for us and we've got to get it right, not just the pitch, but the whole infrastructure of the ground to prove it can cope," Dykes said.

Yesterday, the pitch still had plenty of grass but the Kakanui clay needs the grass as a binding agent. It will have a haircut today and plenty of rolling with the hope of producing a good surface, if on the low and slow side.

Neither captain will be tossing and turning over what to do should he win the toss. The choice will be to bowl - in New Zealand's case to maintain the heat on Bangladesh's batsmen they managed during the ODI series clean sweep; Bangladesh captain Mohammad Ashraful will see it as their best chance of getting early wickets and a toehold in the match, at least on day one.

This does not augur well ! Unless Sajidul and Mashrafe [ yes, remember him ? ] gets into the act early on and sniff out about 4 wickets.

Sohel
January 5, 2008, 10:22 AM
IloveitIloveitIloveit ... :D

New Zealand v Bangladesh, 1st Test, Dunedin, 2nd day
Young guns show the way
Jamie Alter
January 5, 2008

A day before the Dunedin Test, Mohammad Ashraful was asked what he felt about Bangladesh's prospects in a short two-Test series after being whitewashed in the preceding one-day contest. His answer was simple: "We just need a couple of good sessions early on and the confidence will be back."

Over 48 hours later, a day that started with Bangladesh firmly on the back foot ended with the visitors staring New Zealand in the face, thanks to a record opening stand between two Test debutants after an inspired new-ball burst. Tamim Iqbal, 18, and Junaid Siddique, 20, put on 148 in a very confident final two and a half hours to keep their team's slim hopes alive in the series opener.

This is a side filled with dashers and allrounders but Bangladesh have struggled in the Test format for two reasons - they need batsmen to play long innings and bowlers to take 20 wickets. There have been exceptional hundreds from Ashraful (against Sri Lanka and India) and Shahriar Nafees (Australia), but it was hard to imagine Bangladesh coming off a 3-0 ODI series defeat and pushing New Zealand, especially since it was in the limited-overs format that Bangladesh were expected to offer the most resistance.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/021627c39c.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

"Our young players are relatively experienced in international cricket and have been playing at this level for 2-3 years," Ashraful told Cricinfo from Dunedin. "So this is obviously a boost. It means the team has a more energetic outlook."

Although Ashraful's side is relatively inexperienced, he didn't see it as a deterrent. "I don't think we played that poorly. It was only in the last game that we really underperformed," he said. "Our top four batsmen have made runs and they have left the ball well. Test cricket is different and I have faith in my players."

A little bit of that faith was reposted by Tamim and Siddique. On Test debut, the young left-handed duo had a great time in the second innings. They faced a testing passage of play before tea, with Chris Martin clocking 140kph and moving the ball a touch, but came out unscathed. Iain O'Brien dropped a clanger at mid-on to give Tamim a life as the openers tried to manufacture quick runs but there were some positive shots from Siddique.

Siddique is still in the infancy of his cricketing career, having taken to the game in 2003-04. But he's been ushered in rapidly after some success in the latest format of the game, Twenty20. Three ODIs yielded just 15 runs, yet in his first Test he's impressed with his composure. Tall and upright in the crease, he atoned for a cheap first-innings failure with an innings of control. Tamim followed up his 53 with an unbeaten 72, leading the aggression with positive hooks and pulls and some stunning cuts against Daniel Vettori. The most impressive factor of their innings was that both rode the bounce from tall men like Jacob Oram and Kyle Mills, getting in line and punching the ball late into the gaps.

READ MORE (http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/nzvbdesh/content/current/story/329221.html)

Eshen
January 14, 2008, 10:12 PM
And here comes the assault on our test status -

Bangladesh not worth it : Ken Rutherford

Bangladesh is gone, and thank goodness for that.

All platitudes aside, why ICC continues to persist with Bangladesh as a Test playing nation is beyond me.

Clearly it has something to do with the cash that can be generated from the Asian region, because it has absolutely nothing to do with their cricketing ability.

And please spare me the 'potential' tag that has propped up the claims of some on Bangladesh cricket.

Since their first Test match v India in 2000, Bangladesh has one Test victory to its credit - against a bunch of schoolboys from Zimbabwe.

Progress is not being made and although the country has a high population and a love of the game, it is clear the infrastructure within the cricket environment is not producing the goods.

Until that is in place, then the ICC is doing no-one any favours by continuing to include Bangladesh.

Full Article (http://sportal.co.nz/Cricket-opinion-display/bangladesh-not-worth-it-41652)


** Rutherford is an ex NZ national cricketer.

Cricinfo Profile (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/38258.html)

cricket_king
January 14, 2008, 11:27 PM
Ishh....how depressing. South Africa should've written something similar to this when New Zealand played them. That would''ve been nice. Either way...the guy's right. Thank God the tour's over.

pocha
January 15, 2008, 12:42 AM
And here comes the assault on our test status -

Bangladesh not worth it : Ken Rutherford

Bangladesh is gone, and thank goodness for that.

All platitudes aside, why ICC continues to persist with Bangladesh as a Test playing nation is beyond me.

Clearly it has something to do with the cash that can be generated from the Asian region, because it has absolutely nothing to do with their cricketing ability.

And please spare me the 'potential' tag that has propped up the claims of some on Bangladesh cricket.

Since their first Test match v India in 2000, Bangladesh has one Test victory to its credit - against a bunch of schoolboys from Zimbabwe.

Progress is not being made and although the country has a high population and a love of the game, it is clear the infrastructure within the cricket environment is not producing the goods.

Until that is in place, then the ICC is doing no-one any favours by continuing to include Bangladesh.

Full Article (http://sportal.co.nz/Cricket-opinion-display/bangladesh-not-worth-it-41652)


** Rutherford is an ex NZ national cricketer.

Cricinfo Profile (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/38258.html)

Rutherford is an A$^%#^#%#%#

RazabQ
January 15, 2008, 12:51 AM
I'm actually compiling all these stories. In about 5-10 years, when we kick their bleeps in, I'll be bringing these out and emailing them to the respective authors

zainab
January 15, 2008, 07:06 AM
Rutherford is a jerk for saying this, I wished that the decent SA had written something like this about NZ when they were beaten up badly recently. The Windians have not done well in years, until they recently beat SA. England made 81 runs against SL recently.
I think that NZ holds the record for the lowest score in Test cricket. He should go back in time and talk about it.
The ICC will not take away BD Test status. It took NZ 26 yrs to win a test match, though they did draw a few matches.

PS. I hope the mods do not ban me for writing the word "jerk"

pocha
January 15, 2008, 01:06 PM
We must perform in the SA series. Only then these big mouths will stop speaking their utter nonsense about stripping our test status.

Shobha
January 15, 2008, 01:24 PM
i'm getitng very scared that icc might take our test status away. just imagine how shameful that would be. oh....i'll die!

akabir77
January 15, 2008, 01:52 PM
i'm getitng very scared that icc might take our test status away. just imagine how shameful that would be. oh....i'll die!


please don't talk this crap. no one gave that to us we earned it and no one can take it away...

look at their history(NZ) took 25 year to win one test. we took 5 years so... and even after so many years they can't fight against SA, AUS and struggle to make 400 with us...

RazabQ
January 15, 2008, 02:11 PM
Exactly - Mr. Rutherford's world beaters got dismissed by our no-hopes on both first innings. No wonder Saffers embarrassed them as badly as they in turn embarrassed us.

BangladeshFan
January 15, 2008, 03:52 PM
who is ken rutherford? that mediocre Nz batsman who cant hurt a fly.

zainab
January 16, 2008, 10:16 AM
I was lookong at the highlights of the 2nd Test Match and the NZ commentator mentioned that one of the reason that BD failed so badly was that they did not play any 3 or 4 day matches on any of the pitches for batsmen to get used to it They should also have played the Tests first after playing a couple of 4 day matches against local teams, then play the ODIs.
This tour was planned very poorly both by the BCB and NZ cricket board, and the BD players have suffered because of this.
This commentator told this to Athar Ali Khan who agreed wholeheartedly that it was poorly planned and the players are reaping the results. Commentator felt that if they had played a couple of first class matches first, then they had a better chance to get used to local conditions, before being thrown into the Test match arena.This commentator was very sympathetic towards the players. He also mentioned that this ground is NZ National team's stomping ground, they know the pitch very well, have won many of their matches here and BD is at a great disadvantage.
In future, BCB should correct this and arrange it with the host country that the players play a couple of 4 day matches first. They should have 4 day practice match first, then play Test matches, then ODIs.

akabir77
January 16, 2008, 10:51 AM
yeah i heard that too. i think the commentator was NZ wkt keeper. And i agree with their comment. A team like BD needs more time to switch from ODI format to TEST.

zainab
January 16, 2008, 01:26 PM
I think because of the 20/20 charity game, they dropped the 4 day match.
When England toured SL, they played 2 four day warm up games. I still think that the boys failed so badly was because of this poorly planned tour. NZ wickets are bouncier, not flat like BD, and they were confused as to how to play. It was not Jamie in the middle, but them and they could not handle the bounce,
I hope when they visit Australia, they play a couple of 4 day games before the Test matches, I hope BCB arrange it this way.

zainab
January 17, 2008, 07:36 AM
i'm getitng very scared that icc might take our test status away. just imagine how shameful that would be. oh....i'll die!

Dont worry, ICC has no intention of taking away BD Test status. Zimbabwe is trying to re enter Test cricket at the moment, and the ICC might accept them, after all, they were a very good team at one time.

Rifat
January 17, 2008, 03:10 PM
Dont worry, ICC has no intention of taking away BD Test status. Zimbabwe is trying to re enter Test cricket at the moment, and the ICC might accept them, after all, they were a very good team at one time.

they are currently a good fighting ODI unit :), hmmm... for argument's sake let's say that we played a series against Zimbabwe instead of South Africa in this upcoming february, oh boy that would be awesome to watch not from a bangladeshi fan perspective but also from an international cricket perspective.

zainab
January 18, 2008, 03:08 PM
Stephen Fleming has mentioned that playing Bangladesh was not a waste of time in his opinion. They got much needed batting practice.

I am sure that England will thrash them.

Eshen
July 27, 2009, 05:18 PM
We can always argue how much the Test series against WI second string team (a WI fan even claimed it's their fourth string - weaker than full strength T&T, Jamaica, and Guyana teams) means to us in terms of progress, but it sure has changed image of Bangladesh team. So much so that Ken Rutherford, an ex-NZ Test player, is singing in a very different tune nowadays!

This is what Rutherford wrote a year and half ago-
And here comes the assault on our test status -

Bangladesh not worth it : Ken Rutherford

Bangladesh is gone, and thank goodness for that.

All platitudes aside, why ICC continues to persist with Bangladesh as a Test playing nation is beyond me.

Full Article (http://sportal.co.nz/Cricket-opinion-display/bangladesh-not-worth-it-41652)

And this is his latest remark how much importance NZ players should give to Bangladesh -

Players need to remember respect

But Vettori rather let the cat out of the bag when suggesting if it was Bangladesh and not Australia as New Zealand's opponents during the IPL window in 2010, that the decision for some may have been different.

If the players were so loyal to their country and enthusiastic about remaining a Black Cap, why should the quality of the opposition matter?

Indeed, in terms of our recent Test form, it could be suggested that a date with the Bangladeshis was just what New Zealand needs to regain some ability and respect in the five-day game.

Actually respect is the word here – Vettori, probably unwittingly, showed Bangladesh cricket absolutely no respect with his statement.

Full Article (http://sportal.co.nz/Cricket-opinion-display/players-need-to-remember-respect-74795)