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October 20, 2003, 11:59 AM
The top rumor website of Bangladesh, "Bangladesher Khela", informs the final 11 has been selected, but not announce. Aftab and Tapos will sit out. Musfiq will open bowling with Masri.

So we will go in with 3 pacers (really one, Sujon and Mushfiq is barely effective) and 2 spinners (Rafiq and Enamul).

The team:

[Edited on 20-10-2003 by Rajputro]

October 20, 2003, 12:28 PM
When I read that report, I thought that its a pretty strong batting line up, but where are the bowlers? (even though we are going into the team with 3 seamers - Mashrafee, Mahmud and Mushfique).

Mashrafee is going to be in-effective in the sub-continent, we know that both Sujon and Mushfique are similar type of slow-medium ineffective bowlers and so the majority of the bowling will be dependent on Rafique and Enamul Junior.

I hope too much bowling doesn't have bad effects on the youngster (Enamul) or rather the youngsters (Mashrafee and Enamul)

Lastly, I never thought that we'll get a 3 Ms (Mashrafee, Mahmud and Mushfique) in our bowling line up when we have TMTM in our bowling line up perfectly ready for us - Mashrafee, Tapash, Monju, Talha.

Better yet, why not include Aftab in the team as well and keep Mashrafee out? It will be even a stronger batting line up then.

On a serious note, if Mushfique is in the side to strengthen our lower-order batting, then why not teach our specialist bowlers how to bat patiently?

October 20, 2003, 12:30 PM
1. Hannan
2. Javed
3. Bashar
4. Rajin
5. Alok
6. Mahmud
7. Mashud
8. Rafique
9. Mashrafee
10. Tapash
11. Enamul Jr.

October 20, 2003, 12:55 PM
Taposh is so much better as a bowler than Mushfiq and not that much worse in batting.

October 20, 2003, 01:08 PM
Andrew Miller's 11 makes a lot of sense. We get two front-line seamers, two specialist spinners, plus Sujon. If we are too bowl England out, this will give us the best opportunity.

As for the batting, it is weaker than if we had had a sixth specialist batsman, but like I said, Mahmud will have to pull his weight in the team and contribute 30-40 runs, which isn't asking for a whole lot. Mashud, Mashrafe and Rafiq will have to score some runs as well.

[Edited on 21-10-2003 by Sham]

October 20, 2003, 01:26 PM
If I remember correctly, Bangladesh A team captain Rajin said something like this "Five specialist batsmen are better then six because the batsmen play with more caution"; I hope Andrew Miller is correct rather than Bangladesh-er khela.

October 20, 2003, 01:42 PM
Ittefaq also predicted th same team as Andrew Miller

October 20, 2003, 01:49 PM
The thing that Bangladesh is even thinking of going into a test-match with five bowlers shows how much they grew in confidence. I hope this won't backfire

October 20, 2003, 03:02 PM
Alas, the glory days of MMTT (Manju, Mashrafee, Tapash, Talha) seem to be gone before they young guns even got started as a unit. Heralded on this Board as our explosive future pace quartet just 12 months ago, the core of this group seems have been dismantled without sufficient cause.

First to go was Manjurul Islam, who ironically introduced himself in the World Cup video introductions as our left-arm "opening bowler". Known for his ability to contain in an era when taking wickets was just a dream, Manju has recently been branded a dinosaur - unable to take wickets, and accused of negative bowling outside the offstump. Instead of taking the still-young pacer and teaching him new tricks, the braintrust decided his experience was expendable.

Next to go was Talha Jubair. Jettisoned from the national squad after teenage nerves redcued him to spells of wayward wides in the World Cup, Talha was sent off to the age group squads to work his way back. What better stage to make a comeback than the U-19 World Cup at home this winter? Yet, without warning, the U-19 selectors left Talha out of the team to tour Pakistan, casting a huge question mark over their plans to use him at all in the World Cup, and Talha's future in general.

Now, amidst a swirl of new interest in U-19 players Aftab Ahmed, Enamul Haque and Nafees Iqbal, it seems that a third member of MMTT will also lose his place on the squad. If rumours are indeed true, then Tapash Baisya will lose his place to spinner Enamul Haque, but in reality it will have been to accomodate a paceless and useless cricketer from Bangladesh's questionable past, Mushfiq Rahman Babu. Tapash had just returned from a successful tour of Pakistan, taking wickets in both one day and test matches. That Mushfiq-for-Tapash can even be considered shows that the clueless selection process in Bangladesh cricket is very much still alive.

And lastly, there is Mashrafee. The Great Bangladeshi Hope, "Masri", as he is called on this board, is unlikely to make major impact on the dead South Asian tracks. One wonders if he will be selectively chosen based on the wicket after one or two more subpar performances.

The fact is MMTT never played as one unit in any game for Bangladesh. Fans were just dreaming up the probablity of our own version of one of cricket's most glamorous combinations - 4 lethal pacers operating in tandem. In reality, with our improving spin resources, 4 pacers at one time is highly unlikely on even the fastest wickets. But that these 4 would not even be on a Bangladesh 15 man squad before 2003 ended was unthinkable at the beginning of this year.

That members of MMTT would be replaced by the likes of Mushfiq Babu, if that is indeed the case, is just criminal. All young cricketers in Bangladesh should be handled with care - not just the 11 who can play at any given time.

[Edited on 20-10-2003 by rafiq]

October 20, 2003, 04:11 PM
rafiq bhai! nice article...

just got me thinking...the next world cup is in the West Indies...shouldn't we be looking to groom our future pacers and prepare our team for what will be a potential heaven (going by the home team's strength) for the pacers in just over a couple of years time?!?!
And when will our board realise that making sporting wickets is the only way our team can be competitive outside sub-continent.

October 20, 2003, 04:14 PM
Ditto - Nice article.

October 20, 2003, 04:21 PM
Inqilab reports, they still have not made any decisions. They will wait till they see the pitch before the game. They quoted Sujan, "The main 9 are selected. 2 from the other 4 (Mushfiq, Taposh, Aftab, Enamul) will be decided before the match depending on how flat the wicket is and how much grass on it."

October 20, 2003, 04:32 PM
Thats what they are officially saying. But, reading between their lines you can infer that Aftab is out Mushfiq is in. Why else did they make Mushfiq have so much extra proctice.
They already know what the pitch is going to be like tomorrow morning.

October 20, 2003, 05:29 PM
Prothom-alo saying Mushfiq is in, tapash is out.

This is just crazy. Mushfiq sucks. He will open bowling with Masri! I wonder whats in our selectors brain:mad: I just hope Dav knows what he is doing, probably he does. All will be seen in few more hours.


October 20, 2003, 05:36 PM
actually that was just a reply to this thread after fahmida mentioned MMTT (or MTMT) - had a few minutes to spare and in my haste had many typos - sorry

October 20, 2003, 05:44 PM
I guess they will have to make a fool out of themselves and learn the hard way.


October 20, 2003, 07:42 PM
Captain Mahmud is unhappy about the pitch, according to one of the daily news. He rather prefer a sporting(bouncy) pitch over a placid one.

BD batsmen never did better on the desi flat wicket as far as batting is concern. According to the captain Mahmud, we've done better on bouncy pitch abroad consistently.

So, spinner will be the decesion maker here. Masri & Mushfiq Babu don't matter much here......Hmmmm

October 20, 2003, 07:45 PM
Hmmmm...........lost all my stars & Status since Test Status.com.........

"K start all over again .....Tehsin:(

October 20, 2003, 09:36 PM
what about start the game with the spinners :D


October 21, 2003, 09:09 PM
Your's will be a rise from a street cricketer to a Test cricketer. Aren't you excited ? :)

Are you back for good or what ?