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israr
December 31, 2007, 01:36 PM
Pillorying the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/ /><st1:country-region w:st=<st1:place w:st="on">Bangladesh</st1:place></st1:country-region> team as a bunch of underachievers won’t reap any better results. Candidly speaking, this calibre of performance was imminent, considering how novice the current team is. Besides Ashraful and Aftab, our batting line-up is almost non-existent in terms of experience. I think we’re all aware of the amazing talent some of our youngsters are bestowed with. The most important factor missing in these promising players is the ‘experience of playing quality matches’, which as a result, is hampering their individual performances and their consistency in international arena. At the moment, it seems Ashraful is the only one who is contributing to the team on a regular basis. We believed in him and had faith in his abilities even after his repetitive failures, and now, after gaining an experience of over 100+ matches in ODIs, he is responding quite well, albeit not to our desired expectations yet, but still better than his other teammates.
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The fact is: how much ever an excruciating journey it is, persisting with a group of our ‘exceptional youngsters’ in the future will surely be worth the wait, as results will speak for itself along with the elapsing of time.<o:p></o:p>
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Rifat
December 31, 2007, 03:23 PM
i like this thread! :)

zainab
December 31, 2007, 04:16 PM
I feel that some players should consistently perform well in the domestic level to gain form and confidence.
these players are pushed into the international arena too young and too much burden is placed upon their young shoulders.
I am sure that Siddons will choose about 25 players and work with them very diligently and i am sure that in one year these core players will be performing much better.
It is Ok for them to play international cricket, they need to play against better teams, but they also need to play better and put up a good fight, even if they lose.
I hope that he can incorporate as many ideas of the Australian set up as quickly as possible. I am so happy that BD did not give up on Ashraful, I feel that he is the only dedicated cricketer BD has at the moment.

Sovik
December 31, 2007, 08:40 PM
well said bro.

shujan
December 31, 2007, 09:20 PM
Israr your post has very sensible arguments.
Question is who has it in him to prove that he got what it takes to be among the best?

istiak
December 31, 2007, 09:58 PM
But dropping JO from test side is not a good sign of persistence.

wiseshah
December 31, 2007, 10:09 PM
But dropping JO from test side is not a good sign of persistence.


agree totally. he is one of he best fielder too

Foozy
January 1, 2008, 02:26 AM
I just want them to start making proper bouncy tracks in bd! If needed, bring stuff from outside bd. Do anything, but make those darn pitches F-A-S-T !!!!!!!!
It is extremely depressing and pathetic whatever happened, and does happen every now and again with us, it needs to be stopped!

Haha I know that was off topic, but ya I think its fine that players get selected and then kicked out when they are not performing, as it makes more people think of a cricketing career and there is more competition... but of course we need to persist with the best players, but not by making them automatic choices, but by making them work hard for their spots!

BD-Shardul
January 1, 2008, 03:24 AM
We have to persist with certain players, like we did with Ashraful

I agree. But for some reasons, I am becoming intolerable with Shakib's batting performance.

Foozy
January 1, 2008, 05:13 AM
I agree. But for some reasons, I am becoming intolerable with Shakib's batting performance.

haha very true, and the same with Mushfiq and Aftab. And that's basically three of your specialist batsmen who... well its the same as not being there at all, along side one or two tries in every match.
So count your batsmen in every match! We actually have just a few, as its a handicapped team.

There were days when I had so much hope when one person, even ash got out and Sakib got in. And then I'd think "oh, mushy is still there too..." But wow, they are just not playing.

israr
January 1, 2008, 07:59 AM
But dropping JO from test side is not a good sign of persistence.

I was talking about persisting with talented players, not 'talent-less' players.
If you read my post carefully, I said we had to first recognise or identify the better players, and then persist with them, not persist with the whole team. I completely support the selection(though I am little bit sceptical about Bashar's) and exclusion done for the test team, and according to my observations, I think Jamie is thinking my way, which augurs well for the future.

mhn
January 1, 2008, 09:06 AM
i completely agree with u...just look at zimbabwe..3years ago they had a completely new team..they were thrashed by everyone..their test status was taken away..but wat they did was they sticked with almost the same team for these 3 years..and as a result look at them now..they r performing way better than us...not like wat they used to do...but atleast better than us...nd i think they didnt have dat many talented player..it's the determination of da players which helped them to perform well...and look at us..we have got so many talented players yet we havent improved a bit..i think now it's da perfect time to start thinking about this matter..we have to stick with certain players for atleast one year.nd if anyone continuosly fails in this one year...thn we will pick da most consistant player from da national league..not da talented one..we all know talent is not our prob ,it's the consistancy we are worried of..once dis structure is set up,thn the player will also start to perform well..nd another important thing the cricket board should invest more money in da national leagues..

lamisa
January 1, 2008, 10:36 AM
nice thread israr.atleast ppl wid brainz r posting sensible thrdz.

Sohel
January 1, 2008, 12:22 PM
Good thread Israr and I obviously agree with the gist of what you're saying. Given the discrepancy between our domestic cricket and the International level and perhaps also our slightly premature entry at this level, we must allow our "talented" and "technically sound" young cricketers the opportunity to learn on the job. After all, what is the alternative? We fans will do well to harness our passion, use what we harness constructively by being patient, and learn to bite the bullet when necessary.

That said, it becomes imperative that the powers that be inside BCB develop reasonable and transparent standards to recognize talent and assess its potential to learn and apply itself in the middle. I'm sure Coach Siddons will help us with that once he has a good look at most of our players, being as proactive as he has been.

The players must also never take the "persistence" for granted and continue to perform, not only in International matches but also especially in the NCL. One must be consistently too good for domestic cricket to be considered for such a privilege.

WarWolf
January 1, 2008, 12:26 PM
Only Bangladesh dolei dudher bachcha der dia boro der kaj koria manush korar chesta kora hoi. E ar notun ki?

habfreak
January 1, 2008, 12:46 PM
But dropping JO from test side is not a good sign of persistence.
but it will be a sign of persistence if he is never recalled to any form of cricket. but if he's back next series...i'll seriously doubt dropping him from the team this tme!

Lidcombe
January 1, 2008, 09:02 PM
very good point... i hope all sensible supporter think like you and wait another few monthes to see the outcome....

But i dont like the way our Media is approching the latest results..... Look like they are already not happy with Siddons dicision about team selection specially getting rid of JO...

Aaron
January 2, 2008, 12:18 AM
but it will be a sign of persistence if he is never recalled to any form of cricket. but if he's back next series...i'll seriously doubt dropping him from the team this tme!

Nice point.