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tiger_omar
January 10, 2008, 01:29 PM
Hey everyone, I just saw the score of the third Test match between South Africa and West Indies, and I must say I'm a little concerned about our series against South Africa.

West Indies are not in great form and they have a few injured players. But they were annihilated in day one of the match as they were bowled out for 139 in less than 35 overs. On top of that, South Africa added 213 runs in 43 overs for the loss of only one wicket.

Now I'm worried for the Test series because South Africa has some talented and intelligent pace bowlers who know how to bowl line and length and mix in the short balls with them as well. They also have some great batsmen as well.

I know the conditions in South Africa are different than the pitch conditions that will be in Bangladesh, but with a pace attack Steyn, Pollock, Ntini, Nel and Kallis, it may be very difficult to score against them. With many of our current Test batsmen struggling and South Africa taking their game to another level after their shock loss in the first Test match against the West Indies, our chances of succeeding in our Test series against South Africa seem bleak.

I'm still not losing hope, becaue if the pitch curator keeps a dead pitch for the fast bowlers, maybe we can bat first and put up a fight, but it will be tough. What do you guys think will happen in the Test series?

Beamer
January 10, 2008, 01:40 PM
Spin will happen to them. A lot of it. The dead nature of the pitch will do away at least some of the bite force applied by Steyn ( bowler of the year for me ) and one of Nel or Pollock won't play. I would take my chances against Harris. That said, I have no idea how we can get Kallis out below 100 in every innings!

Tigers_eye
January 10, 2008, 01:49 PM
As time pass we evolve. In 2007, I targeted one game and one game only. March 17, 2007. In 2008, I target the entire series against SA at home. The first game will be crucial. If we win that one, we will win both series. The rest, result wise I care little less.

This knowing what Kallis did to kaneria and co.

Moshin
January 10, 2008, 01:51 PM
Well, our spinners will demolish all thier batting lineup once in for all, the Afrikaans will be so shocked and horrified when they go on the pitch to face us, they will literally shiver, and thier nerves will shutter very fast when they see the likes of Razzak or Rafique or Enamul or even Mashrafe. Pollock and Ntini will cry when they face the likes of Tamim or Ashraful or someone who is playing good, Harris will run away back to SA hahahaha.....

Tiger Bhai
January 10, 2008, 01:53 PM
wil start throwing bricks in the mid game.. just like we did to shoaib akhter's head:head::doh:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20020125/ai_n9669775

akabir77
January 10, 2008, 01:59 PM
agey nz ey ki hoy dekhen tar por SA nea chinta kora jabey

tiger_omar
January 10, 2008, 02:04 PM
I agree with the spin option, as many of the South Africans struggle with quality spin. But the problem is Kallis, he's a world class Test batsman and he doesn't get out cheaply. If we can get Kallis out early along with Graeme Smith and Gibbs we have a chance to do well, if not, we're in fine trouble.

Mahmood
January 10, 2008, 02:09 PM
I think we will see Paul Adams again with his frog in a box bowling. That killed us last time.

Paul Kuddus, where are you!!!

akabir77
January 10, 2008, 02:31 PM
I agree with the spin option, as many of the South Africans struggle with quality spin. But the problem is Kallis, he's a world class Test batsman and he doesn't get out cheaply. If we can get Kallis out early along with Graeme Smith and Gibbs we have a chance to do well, if not, we're in fine trouble.

we have rassell for him. don't worry SA will lose at least one match.

ialbd
January 10, 2008, 02:33 PM
Syed Rasel to Graem Smith .... OUT... that was a super duper low slow in cutter by the bowler... graeme smith looks injured, probably waist/hip region cuz he had to bend that low....and Gibbs is giving instruction to the new batsman by gesturing him to lie on the pitch.....

Russell2k7
January 10, 2008, 02:34 PM
After we get out Grame Smith, Gibbs, and Khallis we have to worry about AB.

tiger_omar
January 10, 2008, 03:34 PM
Will Rasel be ready to go for the South Africa series? I thought his injury was supposed to keep him out for 2 months. But it's great news if he's healthy.

Nafi
January 10, 2008, 03:56 PM
Rasel has more than enough time to get fit before the SA series/

Nafi
January 10, 2008, 04:08 PM
THE QUESTION IS

NOT what will happen to us

BUT what will happen to them


Bangladesh 248/8 Mohammad Rafique 2* (4b) A Nel 9.1-1-42-5
5.4 Syed Rasel to Smith, OUT, That's the mistake they were waiting for. Smith backs away from his stumps, Rasel keeps it straight on off. Smith realises he has gone too far outside off and tries to glide it to third man but misses and loses his off stump. Rasel is ecstatic. This is a big one for Bangladesh and do they know it
GC Smith b Syed Rasel 12 (26m 24b 1x4 0x6) SR: 50.00

South Africa 18/1 AB de Villiers 5* (10b) Syed Rasel 2.4-0-7-1
15.4 Syed Rasel to Kallis, OUT, Big wicket. Kallis falls. Lands on a length, goes with the angle, on the off and middle stump line, Kallis tries to heave it away, over the bowler, ends up dragging it towards mid-on. A dolly of a catch and Bangladeshi fielders erupt in joy. Rasel pumps his fist, Rahim runs towards him. The tigers are beginning to roar.
JH Kallis c Tamim Iqbal b Syed Rasel 32 (41m 36b 5x4 0x6) SR: 88.88

South Africa 63/2 AB de Villiers 15* (34b 1x4) Syed Rasel 7.4-0-31-2
16.5 Abdur Razzak to de Villiers, OUT, Razzak strikes with a lovely change of pace delivery. Slow through the air, lands on a length on the middle stump line and goes on straight with the arm. de Villiers is beaten by the lack of pace, then tries to cut it to thirdman and is beaten by the arm-ball. The middle stump is pegged back. Razzaq is ecstatic, Rahim ... well.... is over the moon. All the fielders converge. Bangladesh are on top here. England and West Indies will be extremely interested in this one.
AB de Villiers b Abdur Razzak 15 (73m 39b 1x4 0x6) SR: 38.46

South Africa 64/3 JM Kemp 0* (2b) Abdur Razzak 2.5-0-7-1
19.5 Mohammad Rafique to Prince, OUT, Bangladesh tighten the screws further. They are climbing all over SA. Slow through the air, outside off stump, Prince tries to drive through the off side, is beaten in the flight, gets a inside-edge between mid-on and midwicket. Aftab swoops in from midwicket, throws the ball to Rafique who whips the bails off. Prince is short of the crease. They refer it upstairs. Out. Whatmore is delighted. He is seen clapping in the pavilion.
AG Prince run out 1 (11m 7b 0x4 0x6) SR: 14.28

South Africa 67/4 JM Kemp 2* (13b) Mohammad Rafique 1.5-1-1-0
26.4 Shakib Al Hasan to Boucher, OUT, but not this time! Boucher goes! Again he shimmies down the track, again the bowler smartly fires it a little wider, he's not to the pitch of it but goes through with an attempted chip over the infield, gets under it, and ends up scooping it tamely down long-off's throat! Bangladesh on fire!
MV Boucher c Syed Rasel b Shakib Al Hasan 12 (19m 26b 0x4 1x6) SR: 46.15

South Africa 87/5 JM Kemp 7* (28b) Shakib Al Hasan 2.4-0-11-1
26.5 Shakib Al Hasan to Kemp, OUT, gone! Saqibul! Wow! Fires it in on middle and leg, the ball doesnt come onto the bat at all, Kemp loosely drives back down the track, leaden-footed, and Saqibul moves quickly to his right and pouches it, getting into a tangle with Prince, running for Gibbs, at the other end, but he's got two in two! South Africa in dire straits! What a game, this cricket!
JM Kemp c & b Shakib Al Hasan 7 (40m 29b 0x4 0x6) SR: 24.13

South Africa 87/6 HH Gibbs 0* (0b) Shakib Al Hasan 2.5-0-11-2
35.5 Mashrafe Mortaza to Pollock, OUT, Nailed 'em. Driven to mid-off and takes off for a single. And there he is ... Tamim Iqbal swoops down on the ball, picks up in one motion and lets rip a cracker of a direct hit. Pollock struggles to make his ground and is just short of his crease. It's referred upstairs and he's a goner. This appeared to be a promising partnership developing but one direct hit can change it all. Bangladesh, Bangladesh ... the chants go around the stadium
SM Pollock run out 17 (32m 23b 0x4 0x6) SR: 73.91

South Africa 132/7 HH Gibbs 28* (31b 1x4 1x6) Mashrafe Mortaza 7.5-0-30-0
37.3 Mohammad Rafique to Nel, OUT, Classical left-arm spinner dismissal that. Flight and loop, unlike the quicker ones that preceeded it. Nel tries to push it back again but is beaten by the flight and only manages to tamely pop it back to the bowler. Rafique is waiting and plucks off a good low catch, throws the ball up in celebration and is mobbed by his team-mates. Rafique da, that old warhorse, knows a thing or two about this game, it seems
A Nel c & b Mohammad Rafique 1 (4m 5b 0x4 0x6) SR: 20.00

South Africa 137/8 HH Gibbs 32* (36b 1x4 1x6) Mohammad Rafique 7.3-1-17-1
46.1 Abdur Razzak to Langeveldt, OUT, And then they were one. Plumb. Landed on the middle stump line, went straight on, the bat came outside the line and the ball thudded into the back pad. In front of middle. Bangladesh inch closer to a famous win.
CK Langeveldt lbw b Abdur Razzak 9 (28m 32b 0x4 0x6) SR: 28.12

South Africa 162/9 HH Gibbs 48* (56b 1x4 1x6) Abdur Razzak 8.1-1-17-2
48.4 Abdur Razzak to Ntini, OUT, Another famous win for Bangladesh. The players hug each other. This is definitely bigger than the win against India. SA were ranked no 1. No longer though. Now they slip to the second position. Tossed-up on the stumps, Ntini tries to flick it to the on side, gets a leading edge which balloons over cover. Mortaza runs back and takes it. The players mob each other. Stumps are grabbed as souvenirs. The show has just begun for Bangladesh. The celebrations will go long in the night in Dhaka and other parts of Bangladesh. They have a devoted contigent who live outside the country. This will be a special moment to all of them.

This is Sriram Veera, signing off for Cricinfo. Good bye and good luck.
M Ntini c Mashrafe Mortaza b Abdur Razzak 8 (10m 11b 1x4 0x6) SR: 72.72

DJ Sahastra
January 10, 2008, 04:39 PM
The past ODI wina nd its result wouldn't matter. Facing SA in SA is a big task really. It is like facing Australia in Australia. No one expects anything less than a tough tour but i hope players are up for it. Self-belief would be the key. Or else, to quote some members "Allah Bachaisey".

Nafi
January 10, 2008, 04:43 PM
The past ODI wina nd its result wouldn't matter. Facing SA in SA is a big task really. It is like facing Australia in Australia. No one expects anything less than a tough tour but i hope players are up for it. Self-belief would be the key. Or else, to quote some members "Allah Bachaisey".

This is a Home series, thats why I brought up the past ODI up.

DJ Sahastra
January 10, 2008, 04:48 PM
Nafi,

My bad. I assumed it's an away series in SA

tiger_omar
January 10, 2008, 04:48 PM
The past ODI wina nd its result wouldn't matter. Facing SA in SA is a big task really. It is like facing Australia in Australia. No one expects anything less than a tough tour but i hope players are up for it. Self-belief would be the key. Or else, to quote some members "Allah Bachaisey".

:timeout: But we're not facing South Afrira in SA, we're facing them in Bangladesh.

BD-Shardul
January 10, 2008, 05:01 PM
BD bowlers are yet get Kallis OUT in tests! Lets see if that happens this time.

Sovik
January 10, 2008, 05:09 PM
we can't do any worse than loosing 10 wickets for 90 or letting them win with 44 overs to spare

akabir77
January 10, 2008, 05:35 PM
Nafi,

My bad. I assumed it's an away series in SA

we are playing at home and the word is Gayana is lending us their pitch for a month or two...

BanCricFan
January 10, 2008, 05:59 PM
Play two spinners plus Alok. SA as good as dead meat.

Rifat
January 10, 2008, 06:28 PM
Play two spinners plus Alok. SA as good as dead meat.

Kapali will be an excellent pick for the next series :), hopefully this time he stays...for good!

Murad
January 10, 2008, 06:42 PM
dont worry....we gonna whitewash them...

tiger_omar
January 10, 2008, 11:46 PM
All these positive messages has got me feeling better and excited about the series already. Now let's hope that our players won't dissapoint, and I'm not holding my breath on it.

lamisa
January 11, 2008, 12:31 AM
no worries!!!!!!spin will do it 4 us!razzak,enam nd rafique will finish them off!!!!!

Sohel
January 11, 2008, 01:00 AM
Q: What will happen to us???

A: At least one ODI win from the Tigers should be expected by us all. Any one of five things per test match: -

1. We'll find ourselves at the wrong end of a comprehensive @$$-whoopin'.
2. We'll make them bat twice and lose.
3. We'll play all 5 days and force a draw.
4. Weird weather assisted draws are always a possibility, and they'll make our numbers look a bit better, or not as bad as they would otherwise.
5. Siddons' boys will surprise us all with our second test victory against another Southern African side, our first against a good one.

I'll always go with #s 5 and 3 in that order. SEMPER FEI baby ... :flag:

One World
January 11, 2008, 01:11 AM
What will happen to us?

You do not even want to predict. This is the same SA which just whooped mighty Pakis in their own backyard. Then they resized Vettori's NZ and came back strong against the WI. Add the stats of Pollock and Ntini's bowling in Asian soil with latest Warwickshire giant Dale Steyn. BD batsmen always struggled against SP and MN in test in BD. Whether we might be able to script a win (or tie - SA is famous for that :lol:) in ODI's, aside from some individual spark I do not see much of a prospect making a draw in tests unless mother nature sprays some heavenly juice to discard few sessions in one.

Number 5 from Sohel's list but Number 1 based on probability 101.

Nafi
January 11, 2008, 11:07 AM
Pollock has retired frm test!!!

FagunerAgun
January 11, 2008, 11:15 AM
Will Rasel be ready to go for the South Africa series? I thought his injury was supposed to keep him out for 2 months. But it's great news if he's healthy.

His injury is not that much serious. He will be ready for SA to make a havoc for them.

Spitfire_x86
January 11, 2008, 11:52 AM
Pollock has retired frm test!!!
He could've been the first player to get 4000 runs and 400 wickets in test. A record like that would probably remain intact for a long time. HaBa should learn from this.

Spitfire_x86
January 11, 2008, 11:54 AM
On the topic:

Whitewash in both Test and ODI series. 2 crushing defeats in ODI, and innings defeat in both Tests.

AsifTheManRahman
January 11, 2008, 11:57 AM
Spin and slow bowling will do it for us. Hoping Rasel will be fit to play. Tarpor oder batsmander nachanachi dekhbo.

As for Paul Kuddus, too bad guys like him never evolve.

Edit: Actually, they do evolve (e.g. Ashraful), but they'll have to do so more often.

nasimul
January 11, 2008, 12:04 PM
ki aar hobe 3 dine test sesh hobe....eto bhabar ki ashe.....

Murad
January 11, 2008, 12:55 PM
Don't worry!

As Shaun Pollok won't play in any International cricket after the current series, SA will be short of an Allrounder in the ODI matches. They will struggle in ODI thats for sure as Pollok saved them in most of the ODI matches with both his bowling and batting.

Russell2k7
January 11, 2008, 01:49 PM
This is what will happen to us: AB de Villiers 103(109)* SR = 94.5. By the way, thats "Ash version 3.0," a much tweaked version.

tiger_omar
January 11, 2008, 02:10 PM
This is what will happen to us: AB de Villiers 103(109)* SR = 94.5. By the way, thats "Ash version 3.0," a much tweaked version.

Or this will happen...

16.5 Abdur Razzak to de Villiers, OUT, Razzak strikes with a lovely change of pace delivery. Slow through the air, lands on a length on the middle stump line and goes on straight with the arm. de Villiers is beaten by the lack of pace, then tries to cut it to thirdman and is beaten by the arm-ball. The middle stump is pegged back. Razzaq is ecstatic, Rahim ... well.... is over the moon. All the fielders converge. Bangladesh are on top here. England and West Indies will be extremely interested in this one.
AB de Villiers b Abdur Razzak 15 (73m 39b 1x4 0x6) SR: 38.46
;)

sandpiper
January 11, 2008, 02:14 PM
Take the first step in faith. You don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step.
- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Russell2k7
January 12, 2008, 10:01 AM
OMG I was watching little bit of Steyn. This guy is too good. Not only does he bowl quiet accurately but also has good pace. Aaltu Faaltu batsman such as Musfiq and Shakib would be lucky to survive one ball.

Rabz
January 12, 2008, 12:44 PM
dont worry....we gonna whitewash them...

thiki bolesen bhai..

khaboi jokhon... korma polao khai....

tiger_omar
January 12, 2008, 12:59 PM
The way we've been batting recently, we would be lucky to score past 200 against them even on a dead pitch.

It's not like the South African bowling would get us out, it's that our fragile minded batsmen will play loose shots and get themselves out.

And beware of Steyn, he is on fire right now and is one of the best test bowlers in the world at the moment.

One World
January 13, 2008, 12:10 PM
Playing South Africa will be tough. Remember how Zahir Khan ran through our top order on first day afternoon of Dhaka test - dead pitch, flat and dry. Even those bowlers does not need to put any extra effort like Shahadat. Just pitching it outside off-stump, very basic bowling format and Bangladesh is something/5 on first day.

gunda
January 13, 2008, 12:25 PM
Hey everyone, I just saw the score of the third Test match between South Africa and West Indies, and I must say I'm a little concerned about our series against South Africa.

West Indies are not in great form and they have a few injured players. But they were annihilated in day one of the match as they were bowled out for 139 in less than 35 overs. On top of that, South Africa added 213 runs in 43 overs for the loss of only one wicket.

Now I'm worried for the Test series because South Africa has some talented and intelligent pace bowlers who know how to bowl line and length and mix in the short balls with them as well. They also have some great batsmen as well.

I know the conditions in South Africa are different than the pitch conditions that will be in Bangladesh, but with a pace attack Steyn, Pollock, Ntini, Nel and Kallis, it may be very difficult to score against them. With many of our current Test batsmen struggling and South Africa taking their game to another level after their shock loss in the first Test match against the West Indies, our chances of succeeding in our Test series against South Africa seem bleak.

I'm still not losing hope, becaue if the pitch curator keeps a dead pitch for the fast bowlers, maybe we can bat first and put up a fight, but it will be tough. What do you guys think will happen in the Test series?

Relax omar khanda khandi khoriya kichu oytho nai.. :-D

gunda
January 13, 2008, 12:27 PM
we need razzak for south africa he's the 2nd best spin bowler after gunda rafique

u_know_who
January 13, 2008, 07:36 PM
nothing can help us....repeat after me: BD IS THE WORST TEAM IN TEST CRICKET BY FAR!!!!!!
i have forgotten when we last won a proper match!!!! BD sucks

cricket_king
January 13, 2008, 08:35 PM
nothing can help us....repeat after me: BD IS THE WORST TEAM IN TEST CRICKET BY FAR!!!!!!
i have forgotten when we last won a proper match!!!! BD sucks

Freakn hell! Will you shut up? Go have a cry somewhere else! If you're going to continually diss Bangladesh, this forum isn't for you. Kindly Piss off.

u_know_who
January 13, 2008, 08:40 PM
Freakn hell! Will you shut up? Go have a cry somewhere else! If you're going to continually diss Bangladesh, this forum isn't for you. Kindly Piss off.

umm ok..sorry for letting the truth out. so what now :

mirror mirror on the wall,
whos the greatest cricketing nation of them all,
Bangladesh has no peer,
6 innings defeat in row, did we hear ?

Ishtylish cricketer
January 13, 2008, 09:20 PM
My Prediction is Kallis will get his maiden double against BD. The probability of that happening is more likely than BD winning a single day in the test series.

tonoy
January 13, 2008, 09:30 PM
umm ok..sorry for letting the truth out. so what now :

mirror mirror on the wall,
whos the greatest cricketing nation of them all,
Bangladesh has no peer,
6 innings defeat in row, did we hear ?

:floor:

Russell2k7
January 13, 2008, 09:46 PM
umm ok..sorry for letting the truth out. so what now :

mirror mirror on the wall,
whos the greatest cricketing nation of them all,
Bangladesh has no peer,
6 innings defeat in row, did we hear ?

Haha, Brilliant!!!

zahid
January 14, 2008, 05:16 AM
It's going to be another Whitewash, IMO.

cricket_king
January 14, 2008, 07:32 AM
umm ok..sorry for letting the truth out. so what now :

mirror mirror on the wall,
whos the greatest cricketing nation of them all,
Bangladesh has no peer,
6 innings defeat in row, did we hear ?

Ahh fabulous rhyming. I poet I see. Perhaps this (http://www.thepoetsanctuary.net/) forum would be more to suited to your brilliant literary skills.

Rather than having a cry here, express your feelings there. :)

tiger_omar
February 21, 2008, 03:23 AM
After the pretty good showing in the warm up match, I am feeling a little better. If our players can keep their cool, and execute at the right moment, we have a good chance to succeed IMO.

Sohel
February 21, 2008, 03:29 AM
If the South African bowlers, especially Steyn, get any sort of extra bounce, then we're royally screwed. The moisture in the air and windy conditions are conducive to swing bowling and I expect both Steyn and Ntini to swing the ball well and trouble our batsmen by accurately bowling to the field set for them.

tiger_omar
February 21, 2008, 03:34 AM
If the South African bowlers, especially Steyn, get any sort of extra bounce, then we're royally screwed. The moisture in the air and windy conditions are conducive to swing bowling and I expect both Steyn and Ntini to swing the ball well and trouble our batsmen by accurately bowling to the field set for them.

If the conditions are as you described, then would it be wise to maybe bowl first if Bangladesh wins the toss tomorrow?

Sohel
February 21, 2008, 03:40 AM
If the conditions are as you described, then would it be wise to maybe bowl first if Bangladesh wins the toss tomorrow?

Definitely. The wicket has no grass from what I hear but the mornings here in Dhaka have been positively 'English' of late. If it rains tonight, then there's the additional chance of a bit of bounce in the morning because the clay underneath the pitch will stay soft until lunch.

tanim3960
February 21, 2008, 08:07 AM
Watch the video here when Ban boys defeted SA in WC@2007. have othe cricke tvodeo's too.
here
http://amadervideo.com/loadvideo.php?id=377

Protic
February 21, 2008, 08:20 AM
Man I REALLY got emotional reading Nafi's post..( All the SA wkt falling.. ) What a feeling..
I really hope for something similar..and if its in a test.. Beyond imagination!

zainab
February 21, 2008, 08:23 AM
Bd will wish that they can play against SA the way they beat them inthe World cup, but it has to be luck and local conditions on that day. Batting first, they put up a good score and pounced upon the opponent from the beginning giving no chances. If they can play like that again, I am sure that they can win at least one ODI.
In test matches, they have to get Amla and Kallis early in the innings like what WI did, they are the danger in SA batting line up.

allknown
February 21, 2008, 08:27 AM
wateva happens, happens.