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sonarbangla
January 11, 2008, 10:05 PM
Every time team plays shitz like today we blame on the player. But i think before we say something to our player. we should look at the team combination and some of the steps that been taken by our selectors. I think we need good selectors.

The reason why BD playing this bad i think the captaincy. Well am not saying ASH is a horrble captain. Maybe he is good. However, I think the minimum age of a captain should be 30.

We need a senior member of the team to lead the team. I wonder how many of our players really give value ASH as a captain .. When Bashar was captain, he was the parents of our team. ASH doesn't look like that sort of figure to me.

Few days back in an interview even Flaming from NZ claimed that captaincy is 50% how you lead the team on field and 50% how your relation with our team mates out side the field.

I think its time our big heads realize that we need some senior player to lead the team and not a 24 years old.

Also I think we shuold ask them questions like why rafiq was not included on the team? I am shocked seeing our test and ODI team combination..

For test we should have:

Shahariar Nafis
Zunaid
Ashraful
Tamim
Rajin
Mushfique
Habibul Bashar
Rafique
Abdul Razzak
Mashrafee
Shahadat


I don even get why sakib is on our test team! :|:confused:

djnaved
January 11, 2008, 11:38 PM
yeah, we got the worst selectors, but nothing to do. I think the selctors should be Minhajul abedin Nannu, Aminul Islam Bulbul, and Gazi Ashraf Hosen Lipu. I would pick them because they know what exactly to do. Naimur Rahman would never pick rafiq beacuse he don't like him since bd played the 1st test match. That's true.

We should cut all the middle order batsman, they are just bullshits. They need to go back to Bangladesh and admit into cricket coaching center in Bangladesh.

BCB needs to do these things:

1) Train under 13 and under 16 cricket team in top-class level
2) School Cricket should be in longer versions
3) NCL's pitch should be in favor of bowlers
4) 4 and 6 runs should be banned in NCL, Practice taking singles
5) Play as much cricket with ZImbabwe,Kenya, Ireland, WestIndies
6)Take 50% of match fee, if a player score 10 or less, or throwing wickets.

Ahmed_B
January 12, 2008, 12:34 AM
Perhaps a new Coach also for SA series?..

Sohel
January 12, 2008, 12:41 AM
A transparent and reasonable "selection process" is more important than the men involved at this point since such a process really doesn't exist now. That said, Raquibul, Nannu and Bulbul will be good selectors because they understand the importance of selecting players with a good grasp of what Coach Siddons calls "the fundamentals".

AsifTheManRahman
January 12, 2008, 12:46 AM
We don't need good selectors. We just need the players to apply what they are taught behind the curtains.

Rifat
January 12, 2008, 12:53 AM
We don't need good selectors. We just need the players to apply what they are taught behind the curtains.

spot on!!! a good coach would boost and encourage and guide that process though!

Navarene
January 12, 2008, 12:53 AM
I would dismiss this selection panel on the very first day they picked Javed for ODI. Even Boycott's mom knew that Javed's day was long numbered for the shorter version of cricket, let alone the current selectors who were well aware of this fact. It was a biased decision to say the least.

They should also have spitted out the personal issues they (read Durjoy) had with Rafiq off the field and picked him over Enamul Jr.

Sohel
January 12, 2008, 12:58 AM
Of course selection matters. As Coach Siddons said after sending Golla and Tushar back to Dhaka (I'm paraphrasing here), "one needs the ability to apply himself first". Sick and tired of bad footwork and playing across the line of delivery. Straight bat helps too.

Durjoy seems like a sentimentalist, AK too passive, and "Tiger mama" in need of a good optometrist. A reasonable and transparent selection process can give all of us a break. I say make Coach Siddons the primary selector now while the three musketeers take the backseat. If he is assisted by coaches such as Nannu and Bulbul who also know our players, we'll develop a good pool of players sooner rather than later. Coach Siddons has a plan and knows exactly what he's looking for in players in order to get where he wants to go with our cricket.

Note: Shaun Williams is not mentioned as a coach who knows our players. Nazmul, gimmie a break!

Snowman
January 12, 2008, 01:04 AM
Selectors do matter when it comes to picking players for the team. For instance, Habibul Bashar could have been replaced with Rajin Saleh today. But at the same time, if the players don't apply themselves to test cricket, we are going to keep seeing the same performance from the team.

nobody
January 12, 2008, 01:06 AM
A transparent and reasonable "selection process" is more important than the men involved at this point since such a process really doesn't exist now. That said, Raquibul, Nannu and Bulbul will be good selectors because they understand the importance of selecting players with a good grasp of what Coach Siddons calls "the fundamentals".

Is it? Raquibul promoted his son unashmedly for national spot. He was also the one who promoted for Sharif's inclusion in WC. Bulbul argued for Pilot during WC. Nannu is a jerk. A very good player but a jerk. Can not be a role model

Sohel
January 12, 2008, 01:10 AM
Is it? Raquibul promoted his son unashmedly for national spot. He was also the one who promoted for Sharif's inclusion in WC. Bulbul argued for Pilot during WC. Nannu is a jerk. A very good player but a jerk. Can not be a role model

You don't need to be a role model in order to be a good selector, just a clear understanding of what the coach wants, and the ability to see those specific qualities in players. A reasonable and transparent system of selection should take care the nepotism and whims we know all too well ... :)

Murad
January 12, 2008, 01:21 AM
I wasn't impressed with their first team selection at all. They've selected some players out of no where for the ODI series. (e.g. Nazmul Hossain, Javed Omar, Tushar Imran). They could've done better by selecting some other players who have potential to do better.

However, this was their first team selection so I guess we can give them the benifit of doubt. AS we are giving the Coach, Captain some time to settle down, we have to give the selectors some time as well to get settled (They also deserve it)

I think we will see a better team selection for the SA series as Coach will intervene with the selection. Selectors and the coach need to get some good understanding between them.

Thunder
January 12, 2008, 02:16 AM
It doesn't matter we have the good selectors or bad, what we need is a good technically correct batsman who will score cosistently and also inspire others to do the same. I dont understand why don't we improve the faults of our batsman. In every test we are selecting the same guys again and again and they are also doing the same mistake again and again. Its not taking us anywhere. Why dont our board take steps to teach those players how to bat in a tough condition and score as cosistently as possible. :ticking:

DotBall
January 12, 2008, 03:11 AM
Every time team plays shitz like today we blame on the player. But i think before we say something to our player. we should look at the team combination and some of the steps that been taken by our selectors. I think we need good selectors.

The reason why BD playing this bad i think the captaincy. Well am not saying ASH is a horrble captain. Maybe he is good. However, I think the minimum age of a captain should be 30.

We need a senior member of the team to lead the team. I wonder how many of our players really give value ASH as a captain .. When Bashar was captain, he was the parents of our team. ASH doesn't look like that sort of figure to me.

Few days back in an interview even Flaming from NZ claimed that captaincy is 50% how you lead the team on field and 50% how your relation with our team mates out side the field.

I think its time our big heads realize that we need some senior player to lead the team and not a 24 years old.

Also I think we shuold ask them questions like why rafiq was not included on the team? I am shocked seeing our test and ODI team combination..

Are we running out of excuses? Can you please explain our Test Cricket performance for last 7 years? If possible explain the following areas:

1. Players' skill level
2. Players' experience
3. Players' mental approach
4. Domestic Cricket
5. Coachs
6. Selectors
7. Intelligence

Add more categories if you wish.

damalChele
January 12, 2008, 04:02 AM
Are we running out of excuses? Can you please explain our Test Cricket performance for last 7 years? If possible explain the following areas:

1. Players' skill level
2. Players' experience
3. Players' mental approach
4. Domestic Cricket
5. Coachs
6. Selectors
7. Intelligence

Add more categories if you wish.

8. Financial reward

Now that's a huge factor. Not sure about the current system thats in place, whether it's performance based package on top of basic or something totally different.

Players in BD get paid peanuts. BCB should seriously do something about that. A 16 year old after leaving school would be more inclined towards chasing a career in other fields than being on the field getting paid what he loves. We have to give our young cubs more incentive to take criecketing career more seriously.

At the end of the day money always do the talking. Every man is for himself. If you were a 14/15 year boy in BD, regardless of how gifted you are with your bat and/or ball, you'd probably think of another career path unless of course you knew that you could secure your stand quite comfortably for many years by playing for your country.

It's because of that lack of financial reward and security in the long run, every year you filter out, from all corners of BD, hundreds and thousands of kids who could potentially be the future stars of BD cricket. Out of 150 million of population we can't even produce a decent set of players. We have to select from the set of players who wanted to play cricket regardless or for some other silly reasons. Selecting 11 or 15 players from , say, 100 will always leave you with an unsatisfied taste as opposed to, selecting from a greater range. The more we encourage our youngsters to play cricket the better it is for our future cricket.

We are comparatively quite poor nation. Once our economy is much healthier, fingers crossed, we might see some improvements which will of course take some time. But until then we WILL continue to fail miserably.

Shobha
January 12, 2008, 08:37 AM
can someone tell me who selects the selectors?

Ejaj
January 12, 2008, 08:47 AM
I never liked Durjo to be even a player. Forgive me if that hurts someone's sentiment. He was too much a politician than a player. People like him should never come into decision making. In my other posts, I always mentioned that leaving out Rafiq is a big big mistake and BD team is paying now for that. Test Team selection is fine except, Idint like the idea of droping Enamul Jr. Just after first test. If the selectors want a replacement for Rafiq, Jr. Should have been into the team for next few tests atleast. He is a quality bowler and only lacks the experience at top level.

I still feel that last selectors were better than this. I have the full confidance over Ash.

Rabz
January 12, 2008, 01:00 PM
We need good selectors.
We need good players.
We need good captain.
We need good pitches.
We need good admins.
We need good coach.

Everything is rubbish...

I want a 1/11 style coup in our cricket.

Something new.

djnaved
January 12, 2008, 01:28 PM
Durjoy awami league kore tai BNP playerder dekhte pare na...

Murad
January 12, 2008, 02:01 PM
Durjoy awami league kore tai BNP playerder dekhte pare na...

KHub valo bolesen DJ NAVED bhai...


ashen apnake ekta chummmii dei.....:mad:

gunda
January 13, 2008, 12:40 PM
We need good selectors.
We need good players.
We need good captain.
We need good pitches.
We need good admins.
We need good coach.

Everything is rubbish...

I want a 1/11 style coup in our cricket.

Something new.

AGREE wiv you 100%:)

sadi
January 13, 2008, 12:50 PM
There is no point blaming the selectors. Yeah one or two player could've been added. One or two players could've been dropped. But they are all playing s**t anyways. Jei lau, shei kodu. It wouldn't make any difference really. Unless the players grasp what the coach wants from them, play the way they are supposed to play and have a little fire inside their belly, the situation won't change. They seriously need to look at themselves and other international players and realize they have a long way to go. Lets not get happy after one century partnership or after picking up 2-3 wkts. This is your job. You are expected to do this on a regular basis. Not once in a blue moon.

cricket_pagol
January 13, 2008, 01:03 PM
I think the selector deserve only a part of the blame as the selection of one or two players could have been different.... the process of selection is more important and I don't think they are being terribly inconsistent.

If our star performers don't perform well, we cannot blame the selectors...

djnaved
January 13, 2008, 04:54 PM
KHub valo bolesen DJ NAVED bhai...


ashen apnake ekta chummmii dei.....:mad:


bro, don't be mad.. i said the right thing. I played club cricket 5 years ago.. I know who's got what type of attitude.......during his era, he didn't let rafique to play, but rafique was a damn good spinner that time. By the way, how come durjoy got the captaincy in 1st tes?. Truely, Durjoy wasn't in form that time, plus, it was Awami League era...

Don't take it as a political comment.. AL and BNP both are same.

dash
January 13, 2008, 05:46 PM
makes no sense going gaga over selectors
if players dont play.
dont be synical guys
we have a pathetic team
dont be pathetic fans

dash
January 13, 2008, 05:50 PM
rafiq long has attitude problems
this time around he refused to play the away games at ncl
thats why he is not in the team
he picks up a fight on every time he goes
would have been kicked out long before if he didnt perform

opening_batsman
January 13, 2008, 07:57 PM
The selectors, whoever they maybe need to differentiate between ODI cricket and Tests when picking the players. To many times they confuse the two picking ODI players in Test matches. I was suprised to see no, Omar, Saleh and Mashud in the test side against NZ. Why play ODI specialists in test matches. The selectors need to answer these questions, they should me made accountable to every decision they make. Sack the lot of them for this NZ debacle. I'm sick of Athar Ali defending the BD team when he is commentating, always goes on about a young boys and improving, when will they grow up to be men????We should just give up test status, in 7 years we have no improvement in test matches, just that are young and learning. ICC should put us all out of our misery.

u_know_who
January 13, 2008, 08:31 PM
BD needs good players too

FHossain
January 14, 2008, 12:25 PM
The time has come to change the selectors to people with expert cricket knowledge, rather than having selectors that are bias towards deciding team members. On what grounds is Akram Khan a selector? he would never fit the criteria to be a club team selector let alone international. He was part of the team in 2001 and thats why. So does that mean that Bashar in a few years should be a selector? We have an aussie coach but the team is picked by a selection panel of corupt people with political ideas and biases. Otherwise explain why Bashar played in NZ. He was allowed to play because he wanted 3000 test runs. Aftab? Rahim? how are these test players. Compared to Saleh and Mashud who have test qualities. Fellow fans we have to take notice of this, as this is what is going on on the inside! The team has weaknesses and we have to look hard within the 6 domestic divisional teams to find a group that can even start to compete at test level, however, it is alot more difficult when the team is controlled and being chosen by bias people for bias reasons. Below, I have given my possible test squad for SA:

Tamim, Omar, Ashraful, shakib, Saleh, Mashud, Reza, Rafique, Mortaza, Shahadat, Rasel. Subs: Zunaeed, Mahmudullah, Kapali

Tigers_eye
January 14, 2008, 12:42 PM
The selectors are fine. They are bowing down to the coach and giving the coach what he wants. That is the way how it should be for a young cricketing nation like us. We don't have the luxury of having a good domestic setup and generate players who are accustomed with playing the longer version of the game.

Omar chachu'r din shesh.

FHossain
January 14, 2008, 01:25 PM
Do you honestly believe that the selectors are not bias? I can bet you that if the selectors were sacked today and three new selectors from neutral countries such as England, India and New Zealand were employed then the best eleven from our domestic setup would play and those eleven would respond to siddons too. Why do you think players like Mashud and Saleh did not play? Rafique? AND why do you think Bashar played?

FHossain
January 17, 2008, 08:16 AM
Naimur Rahman
Never made a 50! AVG: 15 RUNS. Why and how on earth can he be fit to be selector??
Bangladesh

Player profile

Full name Naimur Rahman
Born September 19, 1974, Manikganj, Dhaka
Current age 33 years 120 days
Major teams Bangladesh, Dhaka Division, Dhaka Metropolis
Also known as Durjoy
Batting style Right-hand bat
Bowling style Right-arm offbreak

Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
Tests 8 15 1 210 48 15.00 458 45.85 0 0 31 0 4 0
ODIs 29 27 2 488 47 19.52 771 63.29 0 0 42 5 7 0
First-class 34 61 4 1151 106 20.19 1 2 20 0
List A 60 56 3 1045 86 19.71 0 5 17 0

Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests 8 10 1321 718 12 6/132 6/154 59.83 3.26 110.0 0 1 0
ODIs 29 24 1094 904 10 2/51 2/51 90.40 4.95 109.4 0 0 0
First-class 34 6715 3222 103 6/132 31.28 2.87 65.1 4 0
List A 60 2314 1734 47 5/35 5/35 36.89 4.49 49.2 1 1 0

and the next selector:
Akram Khan
higest score of 44??? Again, I dont understand how these people can be eligible to pick test and ODI squads. They have unbelievable low stats, our tail-enders are higher. We must take note of this. We pick a coach with reputation and ability, then how are these two incharge of picking our team??? Unbelievable.
Bangladesh

Player profile

Full name Mohammad Akram Hussain Khan
Born November 1, 1968, Chittagong
Current age 39 years 77 days
Major teams Bangladesh, Chittagong Division
Batting style Right-hand bat
Bowling style Right-arm medium
Relations Nephew - Nafees Iqbal, Nephew - Tamim Iqbal

Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
Tests 8 16 0 259 44 16.18 686 37.75 0 0 29 3 3 0
ODIs 44 44 2 976 65 23.23 1721 56.71 0 5 8 0
First-class 43 77 4 2117 129* 29.00 2 10 24 0
List A 94 88 9 2192 82 27.74 0 12 18 0

Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests 8 - - - - - - - - - - - -
ODIs 44 6 117 138 0 - - - 7.07 - 0 0 0
First-class 43 51 23 1 1/7 23.00 2.70 51.0 0 0
List A 94 202 228 0 - - - 6.77 - 0 0 0

Tigers_eye
January 17, 2008, 08:55 AM
Selectors matters very little if any. No matter who we put in, your favorites, my favorites, they can not score 200+ consistantly in away series. That is the truth and live with it. Selection has nothing to with it. One or two player would not boost the total from 137, 113, 147 to 230+.

The main problem is in the infra structure. Pitches, facilities, # of games, quality of players-coaches, diet of players, picnic mode, politics are some examples where we are lacking big time.

By the way, the criteria for being a selector is you must be a test player. I think both fills that rolls. Ata didn't.

Fazal
January 17, 2008, 09:02 AM
The main problem is in the infra structure. Pitches, facilities, # of games, quality of players-coaches, diet of players, picnic mode, politics are some examples where we are lacking big time.


I knew it the moment coach banned polau and biriany from the eid celebration menu, that they are going to flunk.... and see what happended ...he should have never done that..... don't under estimate our forefather's wisdom when they stated
'bhatey mache bangali".... without bhat how can we keep our identity.... thats why players were all confused.

sadi
January 17, 2008, 09:13 AM
Hey Fahad, stat doesn't tell you the whole story. Akram is one of the finest batsmen of his generation. He was a good captain and knows his cricket well. Captained Bangladesh side for quite a few years. Durjoy was a product of BKSP and he was one of the sharpest cricketer around, I must say. I know his career ended prematurely and he got involved in politics but he knows his cricket as well. Please do a little bit of research before opening a thread.

FHossain
January 17, 2008, 09:17 AM
I take your point, however, I disagree with the little importance you are giving to selectors. Selection is everything, A university has a selection criteria and thats why the best, ie, Harvard, Oxford etc remain top, could you imagine the selectors at universities just having a BA or BSc? No, they require to have phd's.Jobs have selectors to pick the best employees and ofcourse it matters whose selecting the employees as they need to be better or atleast equal to those they are choosing from. Yes we are limited as the pool from which we are able to pick from may not be A grade performers, but from the players we do have one or two can make a huge impact. Example, look at england without flintoff, imagine India without Tendulkar and Dravid, WI without Lara, and now take chanderpaul, Sri Lnka without Murali. Players need to picked on merit and not politics. Saleh and Rafique Could have made a big difference in NZ. The selector's might as well be me and you then if you think their credentials are not important. Simple Question: Could you ever see those two or anyone with their credentials as selectors of India, England or australia? They wouldnt pick people with that shocking C.V.

Tigers_eye
January 17, 2008, 09:24 AM
Reality check FHossain. There is no Flintoff, Dravid, Tendulkar, Lara even Chandurpaul in Bangladesh. Unless you make yourself available.

Harvard, Oxford has the infrastructure cemented like the other nations. That is why they can produce Nobel prize winners. Fix the real problem first. Get the infra structure going.

With current pool of players even Steve Waugh, Border and Gavaskar (if they are to select BD national team) can not change these results. Hope you understand. Saleh, Mashud, Rafique could not even take the tests to the forth day. You don't have to agree cause this is a free virtual world.

FHossain
January 17, 2008, 09:27 AM
Your reasons don't give ground for them to be selectors. Thats like me saying, history, personal sentiment and attachments are strong for those ex players so therefore lets make them selectors. I have researched and still assert my point. Infact you are proving my arguement by showing that on emotional past factors linked with those players, u think they should be selectors, thats too bias and political rather than objective and purely cricket minded. Its bias attitudes to certain favourites whether ex players or current players that need to be changed for bangladesh cricket to ever progress. Views like yours is what the selectors are doing in essence through keeping bashar, purely as he has been a great servent etc good captain etc, but now his cricket is poor and still they pick him.

FHossain
January 17, 2008, 09:35 AM
would be interesting to see if people like border and gavaskar and waugh would pick bashar rahim and aftab in a test squad over more test minded players such as those ive mentioned.

sadi
January 17, 2008, 09:56 AM
Since you have a problem with their career, why don't you give us three names who you think should be the selectors?

Selectors more or less select the same team. One or two players may differ but the core is always the same. It wouldn't really make any difference unless our core players like Ash, Mash, Aftab, SN start performing.

DJ Sahastra
January 17, 2008, 11:10 AM
I knew it the moment coach banned polau and biriany from the eid celebration menu, that they are going to flunk.... and see what happended ...he should have never done that..... don't under estimate our forefather's wisdom when they stated
'bhatey mache bangali".... without bhat how can we keep our identity.... thats why players were all confused.

Fazal Mamu is still stuck in the "Biryani" loop. Seems all he can think of these days is Pulao and Biryani. Shame on you, Sohel NR for not letting him have his "Haji'r Biryani".

DJ Sahastra
January 17, 2008, 11:12 AM
Good selectors need not be good cricketers or even cricketers. They need to be people with vision and definite ideas about what to do to accomplish them.

wiseshah
January 17, 2008, 11:29 AM
Reality check FHossain. There is no Flintoff, Dravid, Tendulkar, Lara even Chandurpaul in Bangladesh. Unless you make yourself available.

there is no need to attack personally......

Harvard, Oxford has the infrastructure cemented like the other nations. That is why they can produce Nobel prize winners. Fix the real problem first. Get the infra structure going.

With current pool of players even Steve Waugh, Border and Gavaskar (if they are to select BD national team) can not change these results. Hope you understand. Saleh, Mashud, Rafique could not even take the tests to the forth day. You don't have to agree cause this is a free virtual world.

how do u know they cant take it to 4th day. i think they could have taken it to 5th day. It happened before. they were well examined player for test.

al Furqaan
January 17, 2008, 12:59 PM
i dont think it matters what the selector's stats are. how is that important. being a selector is akin to being the general manager of a sports franchise.

they need to understand where the players stand, technically speaking. which batsmen and bowlers are best suited for which format of the game, or which type of wicket. they need to be consistent in their selections. i.e not playing "musical chairs" with the XV. they need to follow Siddon's wishes to the T, so long as Siddons can explain why he wants what he wants.

whether akram averaged 44 or his top score was 44 is completely irrelevent in those decisions.

Ahmed_B
January 17, 2008, 01:11 PM
I disagree with the little importance you are giving to selectors.
FHossain,
Just to notify you about the fact that this was your second attempt to create a whole new thread on a topic that is already being discussed in an existing thread. Like your previous one.. I am merging this one again to the existing thread on 'new selectors'. Go easy with your new-thread-opening spree.. will you please?

-Mod

FHossain
January 17, 2008, 01:30 PM
Thankyou Wiseshah! although im sure tiger eye didnt mean no harm. But incase he did I just wana point out that When I wrote my fav player was me It was a joke!!! Humour tiger eye? but one thing I find interesting is why so many people are so defensive over our selectors! It is touch strange. Am I the only one who sees we need siddons standard selectors and not biased ones?

Tigers_eye
January 17, 2008, 02:22 PM
No i didnot mean to harm anyones feelings. Sorry FHossain and wiseshah!!

As for biased selectors, all selectors are biased. BD, India, Australia everyone of them. Biased to their philosophy. We are defensive on the newly appointed selectors because we know our selectors are not the primary cause of our failures and they have just stared their job (too early to ask them to step down). Their job is to select the 15. That is all. By the way, they did have Rajin the 15 and did send him right after tushar got injured. The best 11 is selected by the Coach, captain and the team manager. Selectors don't select the final 11. If you think we need siddons standard selectors why wasn't Rajin included unless majority of those three decided not to include him. You can make a case for K mashud. May be he could face 50 more balls with 10 runs more that is not enough to get the match to forth day. Rafique couldn't perform in SL and BD pitches. What makes you think he would perform in NZ pitches. The result would not have changed and humiliation would be the same.

The coach, captain and the team manager thought they had the best 11. That should tell you where Rajin stands. As for politics and Durjoy, I never liked him and his antics. But seeing his work I have yet to disagree on any of his moves. (and I do not support AL)

Fazal
January 17, 2008, 02:28 PM
Is siddons Jamat Supporter ? Or Ershad Party?

Just wondering....

Tigers_eye
January 17, 2008, 02:30 PM
Between Jashod and Workers party. Muslim league tried to get him but he refused.

Moshin
January 17, 2008, 02:53 PM
Here's a good selector...

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0701/borat_lebanon0109.jpg
..... Borat! for Bangladesh, he looks confident!

wiseshah
January 17, 2008, 11:28 PM
i am not happy with selectors at all.

in NZ tour
1. javed omar and mehrab jr played t20/20, then flew back to BD. seems like they are born for 20/20 match
2. They brought rajin in an emergency basis. seems like with out him, BD is in deep trouble. then he didnt get any chance to play in any matches
3. out of no where najmul was selected, dropped and send back to BD. seems like vini bidi bisi. no one knows why?
4. again tushar and again flop. I think he will be good for test match.
5. aftab is test match

2.

FHossain
January 18, 2008, 06:53 AM
I don't like the way the selectors repeat their mistakes. Seriously what the hell do they think when they keep picking tushar imran most useless batsman iv seen. How is aftab a test player, bashar should never be selected purely on cricket form, Rajin's avge in test is higher than ash, It is 27.10!!!! Why would selectors not pick him??? Mashud has a better test avge than tushar and aftab and he doesnt get picked. Now thats why we need to realise and understand what is going on behind the scenes when batting disgraces such as tushar get repeated chances with an avge of 8!!!!!!! Surely there is something strange behind their decisions. Coruption and political biases!!! If we had neutral selectors, i.e from australia england and sri lanka, then the best 15 would get selected from our country and not individuals have done good things in past etc, or picking players through coruption and political influences. Its obvious this is happening yet no one likes to admit this.

BanCricFan
January 18, 2008, 08:53 AM
Great idea!



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lamisa
January 18, 2008, 11:10 AM
how cum naim iz such a so-called-good player wen hez got such crappy stats?:confused:

FHossain
January 18, 2008, 11:40 AM
Mainly because of sentiment reasons, e.g. he and akram khan were the first members of the first test team against india in 2007 etc. Politics, sentiment, and little to do with cricket. Much the reason why our cricket fails to progress. By the way, cricinfo: bangladesh players and officials is were i found the stats. I think It is very strange to think Naimur and Akram Khan can select players for different conditions, test/ODI when they have little if any exp. apart from playing mainly club cricket. Now, people today even scrutinise our NCL and so we don't have to be einstein to guess what type of matches were being played in the late 80's and 90's when Akram Khan and Naimur were playing. Unbelievable that they pick our team now!!! We need foreign selectors atleast until we have a group of former classy test players in 10 years when say for example, Ashraful and Mortaza are retired and then maybe they could be our home grown selectors as they would have experience, knowledge and excellence at the highest level.

taklima_naj
January 18, 2008, 02:12 PM
I don't like the way the selectors repeat their mistakes. Seriously what the hell do they think when they keep picking tushar imran most useless batsman iv seen. How is aftab a test player, bashar should never be selected purely on cricket form, Rajin's avge in test is higher than ash, It is 27.10!!!! Why would selectors not pick him??? Mashud has a better test avge than tushar and aftab and he doesnt get picked. Now thats why we need to realise and understand what is going on behind the scenes when batting disgraces such as tushar get repeated chances with an avge of 8!!!!!!! Surely there is something strange behind their decisions. Coruption and political biases!!! If we had neutral selectors, i.e from australia england and sri lanka, then the best 15 would get selected from our country and not individuals have done good things in past etc, or picking players through coruption and political influences. Its obvious this is happening yet no one likes to admit this.

u said it bro.