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bdchamp20
January 20, 2008, 07:06 AM
I have been reading people's squads for the South Africa series and was astounded that how so few of them had Syed Rasel:hairpull:..I know he is injured but very few people said 'I'll pick him if he's fit' or even mentioned him..now I for one believe Rasel is pivotal for Bangladesh:-D and he should be our opening bowler instead of Shahadat so this thread is for updates on Rasel's rehabilitation if anyone has info please post here.

zainab
January 20, 2008, 08:00 AM
I am sure that Rasel will be fully recovered for the SA series. This injury usually takes around 5 weeks for complete healing, then after that he has to do physio, then start to practice, so the tour has another 5 weeks to start, so I am pretty sure he will be OK. He was badly missed in NZ.

taklima_naj
January 20, 2008, 09:36 AM
I am sure that Rasel will be fully recovered for the SA series. This injury usually takes around 5 weeks for complete healing, then after that he has to do physio, then start to practice, so the tour has another 5 weeks to start, so I am pretty sure he will be OK. He was badly missed in NZ.

Agreed

bdchamp20
January 20, 2008, 09:53 AM
I am sure that Rasel will be fully recovered for the SA series. This injury usually takes around 5 weeks for complete healing, then after that he has to do physio, then start to practice, so the tour has another 5 weeks to start, so I am pretty sure he will be OK. He was badly missed in NZ.
thanx bro..u dont know how relieved I am

Nafi
January 20, 2008, 10:02 AM
regardless of fitness, shahadat would probably be a better choice for test.

Ehsan
January 20, 2008, 10:31 AM
I am pretty sure we will start SA series with three pacers. Rasel and Sajjadul Islam may both be in the squad. Masri and Shahadat will be definitely playing, I am guessing it will be a fight between Rasel and Sajjadul.

Shobha
January 20, 2008, 10:35 AM
Even If He Does Recover, What Are The Chances That They'll Put Him On??? Incase He Gets Injured Again

Nafi
January 20, 2008, 10:38 AM
I am guessing it will be a fight between Rasel and Sajjadul.

Not much contest, Sajid with more pace, but rasel with a much greater accuracy, and incredible use of swing and seam movement.

Ehsan
January 20, 2008, 10:43 AM
Sajid was actually pretty good in his debut. The last test didn't go well for him. May be it will just depend on their form and fitness.

bdchamp20
January 20, 2008, 11:02 AM
I would play 3 pacers in both tests and ODIs, Mashrafe, Rasel and Shahadat in ODIs and Mashrafe, Rasel and Sajedul in tests. Mashrafe and Rasel should open in both formats

Rabz
January 20, 2008, 11:54 AM
Even If He Does Recover, What Are The Chances That They'll Put Him On??? Incase He Gets Injured Again

My friend, " he might get injured again" is not a criteria to be left out/chosen.

If he is fit, i'm sure he'd make it to the ODI team as an automatic choice.

About test, if they play 2 pacers, it would be between him and Shahadat.

al Furqaan
January 20, 2008, 01:23 PM
I would play 3 pacers in both tests and ODIs, Mashrafe, Rasel and Shahadat in ODIs and Mashrafe, Rasel and Sajedul in tests. Mashrafe and Rasel should open in both formats

u got it wrong bro. shahadat has the all time best Test bowling strike rate for any BD player. if he bowls an economical spell, his average will be quite decent.

i would go with a 3-1 attack in tests (mash/rasel/rajib/enam) and 2-2 in ODIs (mash/rasel/razzak/sakib). of course rafique might replace enam.

zainab
January 20, 2008, 02:27 PM
Even if Rasel is not selected for the Tests, he will be fit for the ODIs. He was badly missed in NZ.

FagunerAgun
January 20, 2008, 03:55 PM
In tests, we need just Rasel and Shahadat, the rest of it will come from Aftab and Farhad Reza. If none of them selected, then we need Mash or Sajid.

One World
January 20, 2008, 05:17 PM
This is an old debate and there may be a bunch of similar thread.

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PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1764 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/218813.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>21.3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>129</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>6.00</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Colombo (PSS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/59303.html)</TD><TD noWrap>20 Sep 2005</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1766 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/219612.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>18.0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4.16</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Chittagong (CDS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56658.html)</TD><TD noWrap>28 Feb 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1784 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238167.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>8.0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2.25</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Chittagong (CDS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56658.html)</TD><TD noWrap>28 Feb 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1784 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238167.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>20.0</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2.50</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Bogra (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56670.html)</TD><TD noWrap>8 Mar 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1786 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238168.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>5.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4.20</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Bogra (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56670.html)</TD><TD noWrap>8 Mar 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1786 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238168.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>23.4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>109</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4.60</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v India (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/6.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Dhaka (SBNS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/236761.html)</TD><TD noWrap>25 May 2007</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1833 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/282692.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>31.0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>104</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>3.35</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Kandy (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/59329.html)</TD><TD noWrap>11 Jul 2007</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1839 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/293480.html)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

It tells you probably why SR should concentrate on ODI as same goes for AR. Compare Shahadat's test career at home to it.

<TABLE class=engineTable><THEAD><TR class=headlinks><TH noWrap>Overs (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/player/56149.html?class=1;orderby=overs;template=results; type=bowling;view=innings)</TH><TH noWrap>Mdns (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/player/56149.html?class=1;orderby=maidens;template=result s;type=bowling;view=innings)</TH><TH noWrap>Runs (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/player/56149.html?class=1;orderby=conceded;template=resul ts;type=bowling;view=innings)</TH><TH noWrap>Wkts (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/player/56149.html?class=1;orderby=wickets;template=result s;type=bowling;view=innings)</TH><TH noWrap>Econ (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/player/56149.html?class=1;orderby=economy_rate;template=r esults;type=bowling;view=innings)</TH><TH noWrap>Pos (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/player/56149.html?class=1;orderby=bowling_position;templa te=results;type=bowling;view=innings)</TH><TH title="innings number in match" noWrap>Inns</TH><TH noWrap></TH><TH class=left title="opposition team name" noWrap>Opposition</TH><TH class=left title="ground played on" noWrap>Ground</TH><TH noWrap>Start Datehttp://stats.cricinfo.com/navigation/engine-nav/up.gif (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/player/56149.html?class=1;orderby=start;orderbyad=reverse ;template=results;type=bowling;view=innings)</TH><TH></TH></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR class=data1><TD>12.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>101</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>8.41</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v England (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/1.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Lord's (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/57129.html)</TD><TD noWrap>26 May 2005</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1751 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/209929.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>20.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3.75</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Colombo (RPS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/59306.html)</TD><TD noWrap>12 Sep 2005</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1764 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/218813.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>20.0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>108</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>5.40</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Colombo (PSS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/59303.html)</TD><TD noWrap>20 Sep 2005</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1766 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/219612.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>22.0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>3.77</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Chittagong (CDS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56658.html)</TD><TD noWrap>28 Feb 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1784 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238167.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>8.0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4.87</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Chittagong (CDS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56658.html)</TD><TD noWrap>28 Feb 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1784 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238167.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>21.3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>86</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>4.00</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Bogra (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56670.html)</TD><TD noWrap>8 Mar 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1786 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238168.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>8.0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>5.37</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Bogra (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56670.html)</TD><TD noWrap>8 Mar 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1786 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238168.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>14.0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3.42</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Australia (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/2.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Fatullah (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56667.html)</TD><TD noWrap>9 Apr 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1797 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238171.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>20.0</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3.35</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Australia (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/2.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Fatullah (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56667.html)</TD><TD noWrap>9 Apr 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1797 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238171.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>33.0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>143</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4.33</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Australia (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/2.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Chittagong (CDS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56658.html)</TD><TD noWrap>16 Apr 2006</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1799 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/238172.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>18.0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>4.22</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v India (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/6.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Chittagong (CDS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56658.html)</TD><TD noWrap>18 May 2007</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1832 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/282691.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>7.0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>4.28</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v India (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/6.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Chittagong (CDS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/56658.html)</TD><TD noWrap>18 May 2007</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1832 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/282691.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>18.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>102</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>5.66</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Colombo (SSC) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/59308.html)</TD><TD noWrap>25 Jun 2007</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1837 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/293478.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>21.0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3.85</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Colombo (PSS) (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/59303.html)</TD><TD noWrap>3 Jul 2007</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1838 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/293479.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>16.0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4.43</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v Sri Lanka (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/8.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Kandy (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/59329.html)</TD><TD noWrap>11 Jul 2007</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1839 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/293480.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>18.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>95</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>5.27</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v New Zealand (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/5.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Dunedin (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/58827.html)</TD><TD noWrap>4 Jan 2008</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1859 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/300429.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>1.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6.00</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v New Zealand (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/5.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Dunedin (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/58827.html)</TD><TD noWrap>4 Jan 2008</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1859 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/300429.html)</TD></TR><TR class=data1><TD>27.0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>3.07</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD class=left noWrap>v New Zealand (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/team/5.html)</TD><TD class=left noWrap>Wellington (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/content/ground/58895.html)</TD><TD noWrap>12 Jan 2008</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 3px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; PADDING-TOP: 1px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Test # 1861 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/300430.html)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


I am surprised to find Shahadat is yet to play a test in Dhaka and look how nicely he came back in the last test against NewZealand and Rasel's bowling against the Indians in Mirpur was barely blunt.

cricket_king
January 20, 2008, 10:27 PM
In tests, we need just Rasel and Shahadat, the rest of it will come from Aftab and Farhad Reza. If none of them selected, then we need Mash or Sajid.

Mortaza in as second choice? You alright buddy? Shahadat and Rasel would get slaughtered all over the park if they were the only pace bowlers.

ahaque
January 21, 2008, 12:20 AM
if rasel isnt healthy i say we give another shot to alok kapali. he's been great in the NCL and I think he is deserved of another chance.

Kabir
January 21, 2008, 12:25 AM
Mortaza in as second choice? You alright buddy? Shahadat and Rasel would get slaughtered all over the park if they were the only pace bowlers.

Mash hasn't shown anything recently that deserves a jaw-drop like this bro.

His recent performances tells me that even my para-protibeshi team er medium pacer can do better than him.

AsifTheManRahman
January 21, 2008, 12:34 AM
Well Shahadat does get the edge over Rasel in the test XI because of his ability to bowl long spells and bowl well with the old ball. In fact, he's surpassed Mashrafe with his performance in the longer version in recent times.

In the ODI's, however, Rasel is my first choice as far as the pace attack is concerned.

al Furqaan
January 21, 2008, 01:00 AM
Well Shahadat does get the edge over Rasel in the test XI because of his ability to bowl long spells and bowl well with the old ball. In fact, he's surpassed Mashrafe with his performance in the longer version in recent times.

In the ODI's, however, Rasel is my first choice as far as the pace attack is concerned.

spot effing on!

rajib >> rasel in tests...might even be better than mash

but rasel >> rajib in ODIs, again rasel might even be better than mash

cricket_king
January 21, 2008, 06:45 AM
Mash hasn't shown anything recently that deserves a jaw-drop like this bro.

His recent performances tells me that even my para-protibeshi team er medium pacer can do better than him.

Didn't he get a 4 wicket haul in the first test? I find it hard to believe that we fans have already dropped him from our bowling line-up.

akabir77
January 21, 2008, 11:23 AM
well I think i read it some where his old injury is giving him more discomfort then the new one. His ankle injury that he got in WC before the irland game. and that report( probably from prothom-alo) said he might not be available for SA series because of that injury not the new one...

Nafi
January 21, 2008, 01:58 PM
Didn't he get a 4 wicket haul in the first test? I find it hard to believe that we fans have already dropped him from our bowling line-up.

5-61 L-) :flag::flag:

zainab
January 24, 2008, 10:41 AM
Does anyone has any news about Rasel's progress with his injury? Have heard that his ankle is giving him problems now. i hope that he at least recovers for the ODIs, because he might not be chosen for the Test matches.

lamisa
January 24, 2008, 11:46 AM
Mortaza in as second choice? You alright buddy? Shahadat and Rasel would get slaughtered all over the park if they were the only pace bowlers.

yea exactly!

zia
January 24, 2008, 07:14 PM
Even If He Does Recover, What Are The Chances That They'll Put Him On??? Incase He Gets Injured Again

Tahole ki Rasel khela chere dibe!!!!:floor:

reyme
January 24, 2008, 07:35 PM
জাহিদুস, রাসেল আবার কি সমস্যা করল? দেখতে একটু খারাপ, এই তো?

reyme
January 24, 2008, 07:37 PM
Jahidus said:

i cant beleave that sayed rasel in our test team . in his carrier he did not have any good test match . aginst india he bowled 20 overs and give 113 runs thats really very expensive . i am really never understand why he select for our test team.

reyme
January 24, 2008, 07:38 PM
Some people dont want Rasel in the team:

you dont understand nothing about test cricket . you man in the test cricket everybody need fast bowelr like who can ball atlist 85 to 90 mile , this bowl can make unsettle the batsman . but sayed rasel bowl 74 mile in his every delivery thats can face batsman very easily . he does not have no swin at all . before you say somethingh to me maksure that makes commnsense dude.

FagunerAgun
January 25, 2008, 03:53 PM
Mortaza in as second choice? You alright buddy? Shahadat and Rasel would get slaughtered all over the park if they were the only pace bowlers.

Are you alright, or smoking something that helps you dream his past performance, not the present. Think before you post.

AsifTheManRahman
January 25, 2008, 06:02 PM
rajib >> rasel in tests...might even be better than mash

but rasel >> rajib in ODIs, again rasel might even be better than mash

Interestingly, what that does is it ensures that Mash gets a place in both line ups.

cricket_king
January 25, 2008, 09:31 PM
Are you alright, or smoking something that helps you dream his past performance, not the present. Think before you post.

Well according to your selection criteria, Ashraful shouldn't be in the team either since he hasn't done anything in this New Zealand tour either. Splendid team you've got in mind. With the captain and vice-captain both gone we'll destroy the opposition. I can see you think things through before posting. Absolute genius. :notworthy:

FagunerAgun
January 26, 2008, 06:44 PM
Well according to your selection criteria, Ashraful shouldn't be in the team either since he hasn't done anything in this New Zealand tour either. Splendid team you've got in mind. With the captain and vice-captain both gone we'll destroy the opposition. I can see you think things through before posting. Absolute genius. :notworthy:

Yap, you must be smoking something, because we were talking about pacers, weren't we?

Mash's problem is his physical fitness, watch his recent bowling action, he gained weight in his upper body which retards him from bowling in good length and line with his usual pace.

Benching a key player for one or two tests can increaese a pressure on him to perform better, it does not mean he is dropped from the team for ever. It happens most of the time in the NHL and other professional games. Still I like him.

Different people have different minds. Fans come here with different opinions that you may not agree or you may think that is not reasonable, but be respectful kid, you have a long way to go. Just keep in mind, to give an opinion, one has not be a genius. Hope this helps.

cricket_king
January 26, 2008, 11:03 PM
Yap, you must be smoking something, because we were talking about pacers, weren't we?

Mash's problem is his physical fitness, watch his recent bowling action, he gained weight in his upper body which retards him from bowling in good length and line with his usual pace.

Benching a key player for one or two tests can increaese a pressure on him to perform better, it does not mean he is dropped from the team for ever. It happens most of the time in the NHL and other professional games. Still I like him.

Different people have different minds. Fans come here with different opinions that you may not agree or you may think that is not reasonable, but be respectful kid, you have a long way to go. Just keep in mind, to give an opinion, one has not be a genius. Hope this helps.
Firstly, I was referring to your selection criteria, not just some random player.

Anyway, Mashrafe probably has more upper body strength than anyone else in the team. He has gained a bit of weight recently, but regular exercise should fix that problem. Either way, he has got a decent bit of meat which any player Bangladeshi desperately needs. Just to remind you, he did take a 4-wicket haul against New Zealand during the recently concluded series.

And you're right...I was being a rude little kid. Sorry mate. My sincerest apologies. I was just following the examples set by some of our older members. Being older and wiser than I, you should be aware that saying something like "you're smoking something" will set an immature infant like me off. Please be more careful in the future. Thank you.

bdchamp20
January 27, 2008, 04:34 AM
In ODIs, I think we should play three pacers: Mashrafe,Rasel(if fit,if not Sajedul) and Shahadat. but I think Bangladesh must open with Mashrafe-Rasel and then Shahadat should come in, after that we can play two spinners Rajjak-Shakib/Mosharof and if a bowler is not performing then we can bring in someone like Kapali or Ashraful

Nafi
January 27, 2008, 04:47 AM
Mashrafee is in very good form, 5-61 are brilliant figures. It could of been easily been 7-61, if luck went his way

Gowza
January 27, 2008, 04:48 AM
mortaza, rasel and shahadat should be the main pacers with sajidul the next in option but bowlers like rubel hossain, dolar and roy might take some of these spots within a couple of years. atm though rasel is an important part of BD's attack, imo it wouldn't be a bad idea to try rasel and shahadat as an opening pair with mortaza as first change. i think rasel should always open because at his pace he needs all the help he can get with the moving ball (plus he does a good job as opener) but as for his partner it could just come down to who is bowling the best at that time.

bdchamp20
January 29, 2008, 12:49 PM
mortaza, rasel and shahadat should be the main pacers with sajidul the next in option but bowlers like rubel hossain, dolar and roy might take some of these spots within a couple of years. atm though rasel is an important part of BD's attack, imo it wouldn't be a bad idea to try rasel and shahadat as an opening pair with mortaza as first change. i think rasel should always open because at his pace he needs all the help he can get with the moving ball (plus he does a good job as opener) but as for his partner it could just come down to who is bowling the best at that time.
I agree with Rasel-Rajib opening bowlers, I think that might be a good idea and we could give that a try.And I think youngsters live Dolar,Shubhasish and Rubel will make it into the team in due course but there are other pacers who I'd put ahead of them like:Mahbubul Alam Robin,Ziaur Rahman and a few other guys

ialbd
January 29, 2008, 02:41 PM
sajed has a long way to go and will definitely be permanent in the team if he keeps up his pace (and develops on it). Rasel is an easy pick between Rasel vs Sajedul. The way Rajib has been bowling lately, sajid will have to wait for his turn.

inshAllah Rasel will recover very soon, but I am worried abt his match fitness. Time will tell...

jahidus200
January 29, 2008, 03:15 PM
whatever it is , their is no dout that masraffie and shaddat is our main fast bowler in the test match and sayed rasel could be a third bowler . but i never gonna pick sajidul for south africa tour , he dont have no swim and no pace . we have batting problem so we should go with one batsman who can bowl spin too like sakib or rafiq .

al Furqaan
January 29, 2008, 07:28 PM
whatever it is , their is no dout that masraffie and shaddat is our main fast bowler in the test match and sayed rasel could be a third bowler . but i never gonna pick sajidul for south africa tour , he dont have no swim and no pace . we have batting problem so we should go with one batsman who can bowl spin too like sakib or rafiq .

sajid's average pace is quite a bit more than rasel's. rasel averages 115-120, occaisionally touching 125. sajid averages 125-132, and can hit 136 k.

thats faster than even mash was bowling a year ago. pace is not sajid's problem. his problem is his line and length. and i think he can be a pretty good bowler. at least for the 4th spot.

bdchamp20
February 3, 2008, 11:08 AM
Rasel is included in the BCB tri-series but hasnt played a match yet so I'm guessing he is recovering but still not fully fit

Gowza
February 3, 2008, 06:41 PM
sajidul is probably the best pick for the 4th pace option for the south africa series. he's a decent wicket taker, just got to work on his economy rate. however i'd expect players like dolar, rubel hossain and subashis roy to really push for spots in the national team within a couple of years so unless sajidul improves his game i think he'll struggle to hold down the 4th pacer option long term. though it would be nice to have a reasonable sized group all competing for the national team so i'm hoping everyone will raise their game.

mshakir56
February 4, 2008, 12:23 AM
How long do we have to wait to get a genuine fast bowler who can bowl 90 mph on a regular basis. Currently Mashrafee and Shahadat only bowling around 85 mph. and the less said about Rasel the better, as far as speed is concerned.

Murad
February 4, 2008, 01:17 PM
Good news guys. Syed Rasel, Tamim and Tapash are FIT now.

Syed Rasel will play in the match tomorrow. He could bowl only 5 overs though.

National team physio Daryl Lifson informed yesterday that injured seamer Syed Rasel will be given five overs to bowl in today's match. The South African added that opening batsman Tamim Iqbal and paceman Tapash Baisya have also made good recovery from injury.

Daily Star

Nafi
February 4, 2008, 02:39 PM
How long do we have to wait to get a genuine fast bowler who can bowl 90 mph on a regular basis.

3-4 years

zainab
February 4, 2008, 04:45 PM
I read that the physio said that Tamim is still not fit to play for a little while more, so I dont think that he will play in any of the warm up matches.

reyme
February 13, 2008, 06:13 PM
whatever it is , their is no dout that masraffie and shaddat is our main fast bowler in the test match and sayed rasel could be a third bowler . but i never gonna pick sajidul for south africa tour , he dont have no swim and no pace . we have batting problem so we should go with one batsman who can bowl spin too like sakib or rafiq .

Jahidus, whats the status of Rasel?

Ishtylish cricketer
February 13, 2008, 08:29 PM
Yeah if Rasel doesn't play, Bd's got almost no chance. Other bowlers dish up too many half volleys and slow short stuff.

Game On
February 13, 2008, 10:40 PM
How many medium fast bowlers you want in the test match on a spinning wickets ?

It's only gonna be 2 ;

Mashrafe & Shahdat ;

Kabir
February 14, 2008, 12:14 AM
3-4 years

Magic numbers? :)

mshakir56
February 14, 2008, 01:39 AM
3-4 years

did you spot somebody in the U-19 or U-16 team already ?

Rifat
February 14, 2008, 02:36 AM
it is highly advisable to let Rasel practice some warm-up matches so he can get back to his excellent touch before prime time, another words, do not put him on the national team out of nowhere... that will end up hurting his career and we should have reached a stage where we do not destroy player's career anymore.

let him warmup really well before taking on South Africa/Ireland given his injury status.

al-Sagar
February 14, 2008, 02:48 AM
he would be fit for ODI's

not sure about tests.

abu2abu
February 14, 2008, 06:04 AM
... another words, do not put him on the national team out of nowhere... that will end up hurting his career and we should have reached a stage where we do not destroy player's career anymore.


Dude, I hate to be pedantic, but the term is "in other words" not "another words"...

zainab
February 14, 2008, 07:56 AM
he would be fit for ODI's

not sure about tests.

Even if he was fit, I dont think that he would be included in the final Test 11 for the wicket favours spinners more thn pacers, so it is good that that the Tests are played first, gives his shoulder a better chance to heal properly. Remember, Ireland is after the 3 ODIs, so Rasel has to be fit.
To besides, Test bowling involves long spells, and I am sure the physio is aware of that.

Nafi
February 14, 2008, 02:19 PM
did you spot somebody in the U-19 or U-16 team already ?

yes somebody very close.....

Ishtylish cricketer
February 14, 2008, 06:36 PM
I am expecting a maiden double from Kallis in tests. Rasel must play in ODIs and even in, he's not a bad option. He doesn't concede many runs so others can pick up wicket from the other end, if he doesn't do so himself. Same cannot be said about too many other bowlers of Bd.

Ishtylish cricketer
February 14, 2008, 06:53 PM
How many medium fast bowlers you want in the test match on a spinning wickets ?

It's only gonna be 2 ;

Mashrafe & Shahdat ;

I was talking about ODIs...but even for tests he's not bad...at least he will keep the ball where it's supposed to be and not dish out caferia bowling. Shahdat in a flat pitch won't be very successful but he's quick through the air and his yorkers will be valuable. The dilema is in bowling selection. Should Bd play 5 or 4 bowlers? How many spinners and how many pacers? The bowlers that I think will play are Mash, Rasel and Raffique. The selection of the other bowler or bowlers will depend on the nature of the pitches which in all likelihood are going to be slow and low. Bd isn't going to try to win any of the test matches and go for it all by playing 5 bowlers and trusting the batters to do the job. The selectors will try to ensure we at least make 350 and a get draw out of the series. Can't blame anyone for that becaues our batting even in dead pitches is horrendous, so they may pick 7 batters and only 4 bowlers. I am assuming Sakib will get picked so that leaves a place for one more bowler. Most likely another spinner. Enamul Haq, Razzak???

RazabQ
February 14, 2008, 08:32 PM
Mash & Shahadat will be the only pacers. Rafique will play for sure. Two slots likely to be a toss up between Farhad, Enam, Sakib, Rajin and Aftab.

Batting wise we know that Tamim, Big Z, SN, Ash, Bash will play as will Musy.

Gowza
February 14, 2008, 08:53 PM
i think they should go with mortaza, rasel, shahadat, rafique, razzak/enamul and shakib on the bowling front. shakib is good enough with the bat to be regarded a specialist batsman and is good enough with the ball to be regarded as a specialist bowler (he was played as a specialist bowler in the 2nd NZ test). having 6 frontline bowlers also means the bowlers don't have to bowl long spells which is a good option to have because it can be an advantage.

but obviously if a 3rd pacer isn't needed then don't play him because you could add a batsman. but tbh rasel took a fair few wickets on home soil in the NCL season so it would be tough to leave him out and shahadat did pretty well in NZ so leaving him out would be tough as well. obviously mortaza isn't going to be left out because he's the leader of the attack.

Murad
February 14, 2008, 09:51 PM
I don't think we will go with 5 bowlers.

I think Mash, Rajib, Rafique and Enamul will be our main bowlers. Sakib and others might bowl few overs as well.

I don't think the new coach will give Rasel any chance to play in the Test matches. He will say he's too slow. But he will be in the ODI matches, thats for sure. Rajib has to be the benchwarmer in ODI series.

Kabir
February 14, 2008, 11:49 PM
In BD pitches, Sakib can be considered as an all-rounder. So, you're really talking about 5 bowlers, Murad bhai.

Murad
February 14, 2008, 11:55 PM
Yes Kabir bhai, you are right.

But I was talking about the specialist bowlers. BD will play only 4 specialst bowlers, 2 pacers and 2 spinners. Sakib will bowl only few overs, may be 15-20 overs in whole innings.

SO yeah, it will be 5 bowlers as Aftab might bowl a few overs too.. :)

Ishtylish cricketer
February 17, 2008, 08:29 PM
But I was talking about the specialist bowlers. BD will play only 4 specialst bowlers, 2 pacers and 2 spinners. Sakib will bowl only few overs, may be 15-20 overs in whole innings.

SO yeah, it will be 5 bowlers as Aftab might bowl a few overs too.. :)

I think also out of batting necessity Bd won't play 5 bowlers. We can't play 5 bowlers if we played on concrete.:lol: Our batters would still find ways to get out.

bdchamp20
February 18, 2008, 02:37 PM
Syed Rasel must be picked, he is a much better option to open bowling than both Mashrafe and Shahadat..I think he will destroy the SA batting line-up if picked

arafath79
February 18, 2008, 03:55 PM
Syed rasel will be better choice than Sajedul Islam. BD is making wickets which will support the spinners to turn the ball and Rasel can enjoy his bowling on that surface with his decent line, lenght and swing.

cricket_pagol
February 18, 2008, 05:43 PM
Reading todya's newspaper, i think they are considering farhad as the 3rd seamer for his batting ability...

akabir77
February 18, 2008, 06:05 PM
Reading todya's newspaper, i think they are considering farhad as the 3rd seamer for his batting ability...

thats not going to be a good choice. we need early wickets and rassell always delivered that...

If we can't get the early wickets we will be doomed...

bdchamp20
February 19, 2008, 12:06 PM
This is bullcrap!! This bunch of selectors are our worst ever! How can they leave out Rasel for Sajedul, The BCB XI is a much better team than this squad

akabir77
February 19, 2008, 02:21 PM
This is bullcrap!! This bunch of selectors are our worst ever! How can they leave out Rasel for Sajedul, The BCB XI is a much better team than this squad


Bhai didn't you read the reports? the selectors said that rassel is not fully fit. he didn't bowl very well in his 2nd and 3rd time with the old ball.

Dhurr
February 19, 2008, 02:31 PM
If he is injured, it is good to give him some rest.