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al Furqaan
February 12, 2008, 09:46 PM
the aussies do not feel safe touring pakistan due to the security situation. normally, its usually a case of over-reacting from england/aus/nz whilst touring pak/zim/sl due to political violence. however, in recent months, pakistan's situation really has gone to hell so there is no question that it would be unsafe even for our team to go there.

so the question is: should bangladesh invite pakistan for a full tour (2,3 tests and ODIs). this makes up for the 2 tests we lose against aussies this year and also for the cancelled tri-series.

i think the BCB should at least float the idea to the PCB and see what they say.

kalpurush
February 12, 2008, 10:23 PM
I think tri-series idea is a good one.
Though, in CI, I read that the CB series is the last tri-series to be played! Don't know in detail why so...

tanim3960
February 12, 2008, 10:31 PM
that will be a great idea . or what bcb can do ask pakistan and aussies to play in our ground. that will be a neutral ground for both teams. and arrange a triseries between auusie, pakis and bangs in our home. india will not attend the tri series which is schedule in may, this is for sure. aussies can be a good replacement for india.
aussies have cancelled the two test against bangladesh, we can ask them to do the this alternative to make up the canclled test match........

sadi
February 12, 2008, 11:07 PM
Lots of money is involved here and I dun see how pak will agree to tour us instead. At best, they can invite us instead of aus but I doubt it.

tanim3960
February 12, 2008, 11:22 PM
auusies are not going to pakistan period.......
Srilanka already offer them but i was talking about tri series......
so why not Bangladesh? pakistan is always positive about our cricket and also we have a good relationship with PCB.

Tintin
February 12, 2008, 11:41 PM
or what bcb can do ask pakistan and aussies to play in our ground

There is a rumour that the real reason the Australian players don't want to make the tour is that they will the miss early part of the IPL (they will miss the latter part anyway because of the tour of West Indies). If there is any truth in it, Australia won't want to play any other matches during the time. Most of the Pakistani players have also signed up with IPL, so may want to take the same path.

RazabQ
February 13, 2008, 12:15 AM
plus test matches in the middle of a deshi summer is murder

Rabz
February 13, 2008, 12:47 AM
I dont think some of our "big players" wont want to play either.
Ash, Mash is signed up for the IPL and to be honest, without them, i wont even play Bermuda.

al-Sagar
February 13, 2008, 04:58 AM
why not ask australia to tour BD at that time ???

sadi
February 13, 2008, 09:05 AM
I dont think some of our "big players" wont want to play either.
Ash, Mash is signed up for the IPL and to be honest, without them, i wont even play Bermuda.

Without them? If Bangladesh has international commitment anytime, they must play for Bangladesh and leave IPL. It is in their contract and IPL also respect that.

al Furqaan
February 13, 2008, 09:22 AM
Without them? If Bangladesh has international commitment anytime, they must play for Bangladesh and leave IPL. It is in their contract and IPL also respect that.

if thats the case how come tri series is cancelled?

sadi
February 13, 2008, 09:27 AM
if thats the case how come tri series is cancelled?

Its because IPL has a direct relation with Indian cricket board and without Indian superstars, it will be dull.

If a cricket board opts out of a tournament or tour because of IPL or some other issues, then it is a different issue. But if a tour goes on, the contracted player must play.

Miraz
February 13, 2008, 09:28 AM
We have enough cricket this year, no need to add more burden to the young shoulders.

BCB and team management should concentrate on the matches already scheduled for 2008 and try to get the best possible results.

Tintin
February 13, 2008, 09:39 AM
and the Pak tour is getting less and less likely.


Players to boycott Pakistan


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<!-- // .module-subheader --> CRICKET AUSTRALIA would face a player revolt if it agreed to tour Pakistan next month.
While the tour remains extremely doubtful because of increasing security concerns, most of Australia's senior players have made it privately clear they would pull out of any visit to the strife-torn country should it proceed.


The Australian Cricketers Association and Cricket Australia both reacted cautiously to the player boycott claim yesterday.


CA and the ACA are preparing to be part of a security assessment which is due to visit Pakistan after postponed parliamentary elections, which are scheduled for Monday.


However, even the security inspection is in doubt because of the rising level of violence.



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23209330-5001505,00.html

Rabz
February 13, 2008, 12:49 PM
To be honest, i'd think twice before sending Bangladesh team as well.
The situation in pakistan is really not that bright.

al Furqaan
February 13, 2008, 02:40 PM
Its because IPL has a direct relation with Indian cricket board and without Indian superstars, it will be dull.

If a cricket board opts out of a tournament or tour because of IPL or some other issues, then it is a different issue. But if a tour goes on, the contracted player must play.

gotcha.

yea i guess miraz bhai is right. we have quite a bit of cricket. 6-8 tests remaining this year and 23+ ODIs. we need to up our quality.

hopefully we can get 3 tests against SL when they come touring in december-jan.

brockley
February 13, 2008, 05:29 PM
IPL nothing to do with aussies pulling out of pakistan.
Pakistan is in anarchy and alquaeda is killing people left,right and centre.

Kabir
February 14, 2008, 12:09 AM
The situation in Pakistan may not be right for any touring team at the moment. If Aussies aren't touring Pak, then we should rather invite them to BD if anything at all.

I do think that we're getting enough matches this year. However, we could have an opportunity to play a couple of Test matches...that will be great.

mshakir56
February 14, 2008, 01:55 AM
I don't think neither pakistan nor australia will come to bd right now, mostly because of IPL.

Game On
February 14, 2008, 02:16 AM
What's that gonna do for Bangladesh ;

Put this in the International Cricket ;

sadi
February 15, 2008, 12:08 PM
Looks like Pakistan is trying to have a ODI series with India if Aus series get cancelled. India's schedule is really packed though and I don't think it will be possible. Bangladesh should definitely step in now.

Pakistan mull ODIs with India if Australia pull out (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakvaus/content/current/story/337363.html)

FagunerAgun
February 15, 2008, 12:54 PM
Well, Pakistan can come to BD and then play as situation in Pakistan is not improving positively.

al Furqaan
February 15, 2008, 01:09 PM
if india is free and pakistan is now free...why not have the tri series as was already scheduled and agreed upon?

lets see if the selfish BCCI and PCB can "do the right thing" for once.

sadi
February 15, 2008, 01:16 PM
Well India is not free. India has the South Africa series from late March.

akabir77
February 15, 2008, 01:22 PM
lets play Pakistan then...

btw r we free?

Mahir
February 15, 2008, 02:31 PM
BCCI wont agree with PCB's plan of substituting Australia with India. The Men in Blue will be exhausted after this Australia tour and then they got the South Africans at home. Then there's the Asia Cup in June.

We are free after the Ireland series in March. That gives us April-May without any scheduled tour/series until the end of June. Will PCB look at us after getting rejected by both Australia and India ? All the other teams have already scheduled tours (South Africa in India, West Indies play Sri Lanka, and England/New Zealand have a home-n-home series during this period)

sadi
February 15, 2008, 03:48 PM
No disrespect to Pakistan but we can give them a good run for their money. Remember Multan?

cricman
February 15, 2008, 04:33 PM
PCB are talking with the BCB about this ... lets see if our board can get this done

Mahir
February 15, 2008, 05:02 PM
PCB are talking with the BCB about this ... lets see if our board can get this done

They're already in talks ? Source ? I thought it was only us discussing the possibilities here at BC!

cricman
February 15, 2008, 05:10 PM
They're already in talks ? Source ? I thought it was only us discussing the possibilities here at BC!

India is the 1st choice, but i don't think they'll do it. There Schedule it to ectic ... PCB talking with SLC and BCB about Pakistans gaps in the FTP

There have been informal discussions with the BCCI but nothing has been firmed up. Things will become clearer in a day or so," the source said. "The first priority is still to get Australia to come over but if they don't come, options have to be and are being examined."

Two PCB officials, including the chief operating officer Shafqat Naghmi are currently touring India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh for bilateral board talks regarding scheduling ahead of an ICC meeting to devise the Future Tours Programme (FTP) till 2013. The ostensible purpose of the mission is to fill the gaps in Pakistan's schedule in the current FTP.


http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakvaus/content/current/story/337363.html

Mahir
February 15, 2008, 05:16 PM
Thanks, read the article on CI but missed the PCB officials touring Bangladesh and SL part.

India is the 1st choice, but i don't think they'll do it. There Schedule it to ectic ... PCB talking with SLC and BCB about Pakistans gaps in the FTP

Sri Lanka has a series booked with West Indies in April, as I mentioned in my previous post (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showpost.php?p=620702&postcount=26). That leaves us as the only choice, unless they want to play Zimbabwe again!

al Furqaan
February 15, 2008, 08:51 PM
from my understanding the PCB is talking to the BCB about gaps in the FTP quite a bit in the future (around 2011-2013). it would be great if they talk about gaps occuring in 2008 or 2009. 09 is a particularily important one since we have a bunch of scheduled series against zimbabwe, IIRC.

at the moment, i would not want BCB to accept a tour to pakistan in near future. their country is in utter shambles with a suicide bombing every other day.

cricman
February 15, 2008, 10:06 PM
Apprehending Australia may pull out of the forthcoming tour of Pakistan on security grounds, the Cricket Board is thinking of arranging a short-term one-day series with India in the free period.

A Pakistan Cricket Board source said talks had been initiated with some boards whose teams had free time in March-April.

"Yes, there have been some discussions with the Indian board to arrange a three or five match one-day series before they host South Africa at home. But nothing is concrete as yet," the source said.

He said informal talks had also been held with Bangladesh who are free during that period.
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/PCB-mulls-ODI-series-vs-India-if-Aussies-pull-out/273353/

Murad
February 15, 2008, 10:30 PM
I don't think BCB will agree. They are bunch of losers. They care about what the Local Clubs says. If BCB agree then the national crickets will not be able to take any part in the premier league.

Because of the requests from the clubs, BCB cancelled the two 4 day matches against the Ireland team, which was supposed to be played after the 3 ODI series. Some of the boys would have benifitted from these 2 matches. Ireland have some good bowlers.

Our losers care too much about club crickets and do whatever they say. And some of the officials are from different clubs as well.

I hope they agree and play with the Pakistan team. I think we could win some of the matches against this new team.

sandpiper
February 15, 2008, 10:39 PM
we can go, but Pakistan have to ensure invincible security :umm:

One World
February 17, 2008, 01:43 PM
Australia dont want to tour Pak cos they will not be able to play the dispirited sport they are playing in their own backyard against India and Srilanka. PAK is trying to get India in a series. If that happens that would be fun for Sub-continent fans.

Murad
February 17, 2008, 11:54 PM
Pakistan wants to play with Srilanka.

Although Cricket Australia are due to inspect the situation in Pakistan only after the polls, a three-member PCB delegation has already visited Colombo to discuss matters, AFP quoted a report from the Nation. The report stated that Sri Lanka has been asked to play either a five-match ODI series or three Tests. Sri Lankans, presently playing the CB Series in Australia, are slated to visit the West Indies in March-April.

Cricinfo (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakvaus/content/current/story/337640.html)

Nafi
February 18, 2008, 04:07 AM
God why dont they do the right thing, and get the tri-series back on

zainab
February 18, 2008, 08:48 AM
I dont think that Sri lanka is physically able to play any matches after the CB series in Australia, they go home for a few weeks rest and training, then they re off to West Indies.
Bangladesh should not dream of touring Pakistan, not in that volatile situation. Anyhow, the national players will be playing for their respective clubs until the Asia Cup, and trying to improve their overall cricketing skills to play Australia.

Gowza
February 19, 2008, 08:57 PM
i just read on cricinfo that the tour has been shortened and will be pushed back a month or so. looks like it might happen, but the players don't want to go anyway so i think it's still up in the air. there's talk they might have to send a 2nd string team, but what's to say the players selected for the 2nd string team will want to go anyway?
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/pakvaus/content/current/story/337887.html

CHABAN
February 27, 2008, 08:25 AM
Update

Bangladesh set for PCB invite
2 hours ago

The Pakistan Cricket Board are hoping to invite Bangladesh to the country for a short one-day series next month after India turned down a similar offer.

The PCB are looking to fill the void left in their calendar after Cricket Australia delayed their team's tour to Pakistan for security reasons, and the PCB's chief operating officer Shafqat Naghmi is now set to approach the Bangladesh Cricket Board with the offer of a one-day series next month.

Naghmi told the News: "The problem is that almost all the Test-playing nations are already too busy at the moment. But there is a possibility that Bangladesh could be available. We can explore that option."

Bangladesh are currently hosting South Africa in a two-match Test series followed by three one-day internationals, with the last ODI scheduled for March 14.

Dhakablues
February 27, 2008, 11:14 AM
Why would PCB spend money to lose more money? Man,, they are really dumb, arent they?

Rabz
February 27, 2008, 12:36 PM
Why would PCB spend money to lose more money? Man,, they are really dumb, arent they?

They are desperate.
We are an easy bait.