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Mahmood
February 18, 2008, 11:39 AM
According to a rumor from Bangladesher Khela, the team will have 3 batsmen, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 2 spinners and 3 pacers.

I am guessing, the 2 spinners are Rafiq and Enamul, 2 all rounders are Aftab and Sakib. 3 Batsmen, then are tamim, Ashraful and Junaid! No room for Bashar or Nafis.

I hope this stays a rumor. We dont need 3 pacers, we need more batsmen.

My team...

Tamim
Junaid
Ashraful
Aftab
Bashar (or Nafis)
Sakib
Mushfiq
Rafiq
Masri
Shahadat
Enamul

pilot fan
February 18, 2008, 11:43 AM
i think we will play 3 pacers and two spinners one will be sakib

so i agree with ur team but rasel in for jr and think that nafees will play insted of basher

Rabz
February 18, 2008, 12:04 PM
So the selectors said they want 3 pacers, 2 spinners, 2 allrounder, 3batsman, 1Kepper for the first test--

3 Pacers- Mash, sahadat, Rasel
2 Spinners- Rafiq, junior
2 All rounder- Sakib (spin), ?
3 Batsman- Zunayed, Tammy. Ashraful
1 keeper - Mushy

Now who will be in place of '?' mark ?

is it all rounder like Aftab/Farhad ?
or
Genuine Batsman like Nafees/basher ?

very tough selection........

Is it the reason the selectors wana wait to finish the game ?
Specially they are monitoring player like Aftab and farhad.....

Any guess from anyone??

Quoting Tiger_army from some other thread...

I dont think we need three specialist pacers, esp against in a slow, low and turning pitch against SA who we all know arent a big players of spin.

Pacers: Mash + Rasel/Shahadat
Spinners: Rafiq + Enamul
Allrounder: Sakib (spin) + Farhad (medium-fast)

Wicket: Im more and more inclined to take Pilot, Mushy's form with the gloves havent been that great lately.

Batsmen: That leaves me with four specialist batsmen.

Junaed, Tamim, Ashraful, Aftab

So my preferable line up would be:

Junaed
Tamim
Ashraful
Sakib
Aftab
Farhad
Pilot
Rafiq
Mash
Enamul
Rasel/Shahadat

I really hate to leave SN out, but my final choice came between him and Aftab. I choose Aftab cuz it SN's bn a bit sloppy with his fielding, where else Aftab his far more better fielder than him.

Aftab can also be used for his occasional slow medium's if necessary.

mshakir56
February 18, 2008, 12:18 PM
2 pacers Mashrafee and Rasel & 2 spinners Rafique and Sakib and Farhad Reza could fill in the 5 bowlers space ! That should be it as far as bowling is concerned. The rest should be pure batsman. No Bashar + Enamul, please ! Pick Shahriar Nafees in place of Bashar ! Sakib in place of Enamul !

Fazal
February 18, 2008, 12:27 PM
If Tamim, JUnaid, Sakib and Farhad are there, I will be a very happy man. These are the four I think has the opportunity to grow and shine. For the rest, I think we have already seen their upper limit. Only thing that can happen to them (the rest) is either stay as it is or fade few shades.


SN and Rahim are the two other players that, we haven't seen the max yet. But they are off form and I don't expect much from them in this series.

akabir77
February 18, 2008, 12:28 PM
my team:
1.Zun
2.Nafees (TI injured else replace him)
3.Bashar (wish he was dropped and reza would come in his place but don't think thats going to happen)
4.Ash
5.Sakib
6.Mushfiq
7.shadatt
8.Mash
9.rafiq
10.Russell
11. Jr. (he took kalis twice and alma who dares to drop him???)

Ehsan
February 18, 2008, 12:29 PM
Rasel is not that resourceful after the ball is old. We should go with Masri and Shahadat as the strike bowlers. If we go with three pacers then Rasel, Sajjadul or Tapash can be included. I would go with Tapash if he is fit, but I don't think that will happen as he has not been playing for sometime.

I do not want 3 spinners! Either take Shakib and Rafique, or Enamul and Rafique.

Aftab should play regardless of him being included as an all-rounder or batsman.

djnaved
February 18, 2008, 12:34 PM
my team:

tamim
junayed
ashraful
S Nafees
Sakib
Musfique
Farhad
Rafique
Masrafee
Rasel
E-junior/shahdat hossein

djnaved
February 18, 2008, 12:36 PM
Rasel is not that resourceful after the ball is old.


ahem, u should watch the practice match between BCB CI and SA

read hasim amlas interview from bdnews24.com

Murad
February 18, 2008, 12:42 PM
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Junaid Siddique
3. Bashar(He will play no matter what)
4. Mohammad Ashraful
5. Mushfiqur Rahim (wish we had another option)
6. Aftab Ahmed
7. Saqibul Hasan/Farhad Reza
8. Mohammad Rafique
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10. Enamul Hoque Jr
11. Shahadat Hossan (Rasel is not good for the old ball)

We have to go with 2 pacers and 2 genuine spinners. 5th bolwer role can be played by Aftab, Ashraful, Sakib.

Habibul Bashar will be in the playing 11 no matter what. It doesn't matter if he is in form or not. He will play. He has the power.

Now I want to see Farhad Reza in the team. I love this guy. He's very hardworking. He always do well when he gets the chance. We need this sort of players in the team. Besides that he has the best FC average than most of the great batsmen in our team.

Dhakablues
February 18, 2008, 12:56 PM
I think at the end it will be:
Junaed
Shahrier
Ashraful
Sakib
Aftab
Mushfique
Rafique
Enamul
Farhad
Rasel
Mashrafee

The team should not risk Tamim. Bashar is injured and wont probably play. Of the team, off-course, we will need to see how Mushfiuqe performs tomorrow. But I think even if he scores few more ducks,, he is still in. I think banking solely on Rafique will be dangerous and wearing out Sakib wont be a good idea either. So we will need a second spinner and Rafique/Enam plays well with each other. I would feel bad for Shahadat if he is left out but he loses out to the vice-captain. I rather think Shahadat is a better option that Mashrafee actually...its a blashphamous comment but its time that Mashfeee also faces some challenge within the team..

Murad
February 18, 2008, 01:06 PM
Test squad to be named today

The Bangladesh squad for the two-match Test series against South Africa will be announced in Fatullah today.

The first Test that begins on February 22 will take place at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium and the second game will be played at the Chittagong Divisional Stadium.

All talks are still swirling around opener Tamim Iqbal and Habibul Bashar's appearance but after the two's respective net sessions yesterday, clouds over their fitness concern are clearing. It looks likely that the pair would be picked but the national selectors, led by Rafiqul Alam, are yet to make a final call.

Bashar skipped the three-day practice match for the Bangladesh Cricket Board Eleven due to a thumb injury. Tamim has been suffering the same injury, have returned to the nets in the last week.

However, veteran left-arm spinner Mohammad Rafique is almost certain to play the Test series against the African visitors. The 37-year-old southpaw has expressed his desire to retire after the upcoming series.

As for the third seamer's spot, all-rounder Forhad Reza is ahead of left-armers Syed Rasel and Sajidul Islam because of his batting abilities. The new-ball pairing of vice-captain Mashrafe Bin Mortaza and Shahadat Hossain is likely to be kept intact.

A surprise can also be expected in the form of a player who was not in the 17-member squad that have been practicing at the Mirpur venue in the last two weeks.

Daily Star (http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=23980)

I would love to see Farhad Reza in the team.

But I wonder who is the unexpected player to be named in the final 13? Any clues? I guess it will be Khaled Mashud Pilot.

Eshen
February 18, 2008, 01:15 PM
According to a rumor from Bangladesher Khela, the team will have 3 batsmen, 2 all rounders, 1 wicket keeper, 2 spinners and 3 pacers.
Only 3 specialist batsmen ! That sounds ridiculous.

My team would be -

Zunaed
SN
Tamim
Ashraful
Rajin (I would keep him considering his record on home tracks)
Aftab/Farhad/Sakib (based on performances in the practice match)
Mushfiq
Mashrafe
Rafique
Enamul
Shahadat

Eshen
February 18, 2008, 01:23 PM
But I wonder who is the unexpected player to be named in the final 13? Any clues? I guess it will be Khaled Mashud Pilot.
Very possible, I imagine selectors are under pressure from many quarters to let Pilot have a chance to say his last hurrah.

Dhakablues
February 18, 2008, 01:27 PM
That would be odd.. who would be the player outside the 17 who can be in the squad? Pilot is the only player who comes to mind but then again,, how can Siddons sacrifice his golden duck?

Beamer
February 18, 2008, 01:33 PM
Bd khela and their 'reliable' source is as reliable as Biman maintaining flight schedule. Team is never gonna go into a test match with 3 specialist batsmen. What is the meaning off all-rounder anyway? Only Sakib and Farhad can be termed as all rounders by BD standards and it will be hard pressed to see both playing in a test match at home. Aftab, Mash etc are not all rounders, rather specialists in their respective field.

Rabz
February 18, 2008, 01:35 PM
If its Pilot for Mushy, Im all up for it.

KnightBD
February 18, 2008, 01:40 PM
Rumor is Rumor.

We need at least 4 genuine batsman. If we have 3 seamers (Mush, Shahdat, Russel), 2 spiners (Rafique, Saqib) that should be enough bowling. With 1 WK and 4 batsman, we still have one spot left. Can be all rounder Farhad or more spin from Enamul or Razzak.

So here is the lineup
1) Tamim
2) Junaid
3) Ash
4) Bashar/Nafees
5) Sakib
6) Mush
7) Farhad/Enamul/Razzak
8) Mash
9) Rafique
10) Russel
11) Shahdat

KnightBD
February 18, 2008, 01:54 PM
On a second thought, we can have 2 seamers and use Farhad as medium fast. That makes batting lineup stronger.

Updated lineup:
1) Tamim
2) Junaid
3) Ash
4) Bashar/Nafees
5) Sakib
6) Mush
7) Farhad
8) Mash
9) Enamul/Razzak
10) Rafique
11) Russel/Shahdat

cricman
February 18, 2008, 02:03 PM
DS hinted that Khaled Mashud might get the nod over Mushifiq ... or is it me reading into it too much?

Cricket

Test squad to be named today
Sports Reporter

The Bangladesh squad for the two-match Test series against South Africa will be announced in Fatullah today.

The first Test that begins on February 22 will take place at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium and the second game will be played at the Chittagong Divisional Stadium.

All talks are still swirling around opener Tamim Iqbal and Habibul Bashar's appearance but after the two's respective net sessions yesterday, clouds over their fitness concern are clearing. It looks likely that the pair would be picked but the national selectors, led by Rafiqul Alam, are yet to make a final call.

Bashar skipped the three-day practice match for the Bangladesh Cricket Board Eleven due to a thumb injury. Tamim has been suffering the same injury, have returned to the nets in the last week.

However, veteran left-arm spinner Mohammad Rafique is almost certain to play the Test series against the African visitors. The 37-year-old southpaw has expressed his desire to retire after the upcoming series.

As for the third seamer's spot, all-rounder Forhad Reza is ahead of left-armers Syed Rasel and Sajidul Islam because of his batting abilities. The new-ball pairing of vice-captain Mashrafe Bin Mortaza and Shahadat Hossain is likely to be kept intact.

A surprise can also be expected in the form of a player who was not in the 17-member squad that have been practicing at the Mirpur venue in the last two weeks.


http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=23980

bdchamp20
February 18, 2008, 02:06 PM
Junaid
Tamim
Mushfiq(wk)
Ashraful(C)
Shakib
Aftab
Rafique
Mashrafe
Rajjak
Shahadat
Rasel

With Junaid's 103 his place is confirmed and I think either Nafees or Tamim should be chosen in the final XI, If Tamim is chosen as opener I think Nafees shouldnt come in at 3 or 5..he is an opener let him open. I want 3 pacers: Mashrafe, Rasel and Rajib and three spinners: Rafique, Rajjak and Shakib. Rafique is more than capable to come in at no. 7 and play as an all-rounder. Pilot can play the second match as his last but for the 1st one Mushy's the man.

amra_korbo_joy
February 18, 2008, 02:07 PM
My Team:
1) Tamim
2) Junaid
3) Ashraful
4) Rakibul (Though he is not in the list, but he is a solid batsman)
5) Sakib (he is a useful spinner)
6) Mushfiqur
7) Mashrafee
8) Farhad Reza
9) Rafique
10) Shahdat
11) Rasel ( he is wicket taker)

Note: Bashar and Nafees are still out of form.

DotBall
February 18, 2008, 02:12 PM
My prefered team (not by batting order)

1. Ash
2. Zunaed
3. Mashrafi
4. Rafiq
5. Enamul
6. Sakib
7. S Nafis
8. Shahdat
9. Farhad Reza
10. Pilot
11. Mehrab Jr. or surprise player

bdchamp20
February 18, 2008, 02:17 PM
very interesting, a surprise player huh? well I know Baisya has been training with the national team but isnt in the list but I really hope its Alok Kapali but I have a strong feeling it will be someone like Tushar or Mehrab Jr.

hoodlum
February 18, 2008, 02:31 PM
Big Z
Tamim
Bashar
Ashraful
Sakib
Shahriar
Mushfiq
Rafique
Mashrafe
Shahadat
Enamul Jr.

*Rasel Might Be Good Than Shahadat with The New Ball but I wil Pick Shahadat Coz He Is Much Better With the Old Ball and That will be Vital In the 1st Test...

bdchamp20
February 18, 2008, 02:34 PM
Big Z
Tamim
Bashar
Ashraful
Sakib
Shahriar
Mushfiq
Rafique
Mashrafe
Shahadat
Enamul Jr.

*Rasel Might Be Good Than Shahadat with The New Ball but I wil Pick Shahadat Coz He Is Much Better With the Old Ball and That will be Vital In the 1st Test...
good point

One World
February 18, 2008, 02:36 PM
Daily Star (http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=23980)

I would love to see Farhad Reza in the team.

But I wonder who is the unexpected player to be named in the final 13? Any clues? I guess it will be Khaled Mashud Pilot.


YES. Pilot but if Mushy hits a fifty tomorrow then again BD team falls into that vicious circle :(.

bdchamp20
February 18, 2008, 02:38 PM
Mushfiq is always sent too late to bat

hoodlum
February 18, 2008, 02:39 PM
Rakibul (Though he is not in the list, but he is a solid batsman)

I Agree :clap: He is a good prospect for us and he may become our future middle order batsman.i hope he does well tomorrow!

Nafi
February 18, 2008, 02:40 PM
1) Tamim
2) Junaid
3) Nafees/ Bashar
4) Ash
5) Sakib
6) Mushfiq
7) Farhad/Enamul/Razzak (depends on wicket)
8) Mash
9) Rafique
10) Russel/ Enamul (depends on wicket)
11) Shahadat

Pilot has retired, hasnt he? If not then I would like to have him instead of mushfiq

bdchamp20
February 18, 2008, 02:42 PM
1) Tamim
2) Junaid
3) Nafees/ Bashar
4) Ash
5) Sakib
6) Mushfiq
7) Farhad/Enamul/Razzak (depends on wicket)
8) Mash
9) Rafique
10) Russel/ Enamul (depends on wicket)
11) Shahadat

Pilot has retired, hasnt he? If not then I would like to have him instead of mushfiq
Pilot wants one more match before he retires, I think it should be the second test

hoodlum
February 18, 2008, 02:45 PM
Mushfiq is always sent too late to bat

Yes,we can also try mushfiq up the order...

One World
February 18, 2008, 02:46 PM
Those who are saying Nafees is out of form must not really following the practice match. There is a big dilemma in choosing the pacers,

Mashrafe if fired up can do miracles in home condition. So no question about his inclusion.
The good thing about Rasel is he is proven marauder against the proteus and with new ball he can ensure a big dent which may or may not be achievable from Shahadat. Whereas Shahadat can bowl long spells and is a genuine test bowler.
Can trouble middle order and break partnerships.

While Rasel might be a risk, Shahadat can become mundane.

From the news it is clear that Tamim and Bahsar both are well fit. So lets sum up a team which most of you already want :).

Tamim, Zunaid, Ash, Aftab, SN, Mushfik, Shakib, Rafique, Mash, Enamul, Shahadat

The only replacement can be Farhad in place of Aftab. Other than this is the best team possible.

Nafi
February 18, 2008, 02:50 PM
If Rasel can come on and just take the wicket of Kallis, that would be worth it :lol:

al Furqaan
February 18, 2008, 03:35 PM
sometimes our media's rumors are right on, other times not. so i don't really worry about that too much.

the team as i think it should be:

1) Junaid
2) Tamim
3) SN
4) Ashraful
5) Rahim
6) Sakib/Farhad
7) Aftab
8) Rafique
9) Masri
10) Shahadat
11) Enamul/Rasel

the team as i think it will be:

1) Junaid
2) Tamim
3) Bashar (arghhhh!!!)
4) Ashraful
5) Rahim
6) Aftab
7) Sakib
8) Rafique
9) Masri
10) Shahadat
11) Enam

al Furqaan
February 18, 2008, 03:39 PM
Rasel is not that resourceful after the ball is old. We should go with Masri and Shahadat as the strike bowlers. If we go with three pacers then Rasel, Sajjadul or Tapash can be included. I would go with Tapash if he is fit, but I don't think that will happen as he has not been playing for sometime.

I do not want 3 spinners! Either take Shakib and Rafique, or Enamul and Rafique.

Aftab should play regardless of him being included as an all-rounder or batsman.

where does tapash come into the picture??? i'd venture out and say that even nazmul hossain has a better shot at playing the first test come friday. tapash has a bowling average of 60 at a strike rate of 90+...rasel (who many don't consider a "test" bowler) has the far better stats of a 45ish average and a strike rate of 70+.

Ehsan
February 18, 2008, 03:51 PM
I don't know how much of Tapash you've watched. Stats don't always speak for the performance, and provided how pathetic our fielding was earlier. Tapash is fast, can be faster than Masri and Shahadat at times. He has mastered the art of slow deliveries, and was at his top in his last tour of WI. He is a wicket taking bowler. He has experience, and more importantly served us well as our strike bowler when Masri was injured all these years. He gives his 100% every time he comes out to bowl. Masri and Tapash used to be a good combo. He is still amongst one of our top pacer in my book. He just needs a bit more guidance in line and lenght department, and you will see what a fine bowler he can turn out to be.

auntu
February 18, 2008, 03:53 PM
no point of 3 pacers. should go for Tamim, Jnd, Bash, Ash, Aftb, Skb, Mushi, Mash, rfq, Jr, shtd
9 batters, 3 spinrs, 2 pacers, 1 sl medium, 1 legi

arafath79
February 18, 2008, 03:59 PM
My best BD XI in the first test against SA:

1.Junaid
2.Tamim or Nafees
3.Bashar
4.Ashraful
5.Aftab
6.Sakib
7.Mushfique
8.Rafique
9.Shahadat
10.Mashrafe
11.Rasel/Enamul

nsd3
February 18, 2008, 04:39 PM
Tamim, Zunaed, Bashar, Ashraful, Shahriar, Farhad, Mushfiq, Mashrafi, Rafiq, Rajib, Enamul. Can any1 suggest who would be replaced by Shakib?

Dhakablues
February 18, 2008, 04:53 PM
I dont really tust DS these days,, they throw in a bone and later dont even admit their deliquencies..At the end, if Pilot is selected it would be a pleasent surprise a much needed one. And I hope that he does end his intl career on the high note. All in all, the team looks not too bad with their performances but all it takes is the tenacity of the Proteas and the impatience of the Bangalees to dive back into the 2.5 days affair.

Umar
February 18, 2008, 07:17 PM
I wouldn't Dare Not to pick RASEL...he Took SMITH's wicket Twice in succession now. Last was in the world cup! and Im sure None of us here wants to see smith hanging around in the crease.

So my team would be..

Zunaid(good for test)
Tamim(auto choice unless injured)
Nafees(I think he is finding his form..Deffinately not Bash)
Ash(captain)
Farhad/Aftab (depends on Farhad's batting but deffinately he is a better bowler than Aftab)
Sakib (Two in one..lefty)
Mushy /pilot (doesn't matter as none of them are good!)
Mashrafee(auto choice)
Rafiq/Enamul(if Rafiq plays then no need of Enamul vice versa)
Rassel(very good and clever with the new ball)
Shahadat(somewhat effective with the old ball)

Nocturnal
February 18, 2008, 08:12 PM
my team for first test-
Junaed
Tamim
Mushy(wk)
Ashraful(c)
SN
Sakib
Farhad
Mash
Shahadat
Rafiq
Enamul

Tigers_eye
February 18, 2008, 08:49 PM
Positive thinking. 20 wkts. Yeah! I am going for the kill. Chittagong will be a draw test. So now or never.

1) JS, 2) TI, 3) Ash, 4) SN, 5) Shakib, 6) Forhad/Aftab (has to bowl), 7) Mushi, 8) Mash, 9) Rafique, 10) Enam Jr. 11) Shahadat/Rasel. 12) Rajin (sub for Rafique when not bowling)

tanim3960
February 18, 2008, 08:57 PM
The best Line up u will ever see. here it is . i talk to Siddon yesterday. here it is ..........lol

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Junaeed Siddeque
3.Shahrier Nafees
4.Mohammad Ashraful
5.Sakib Al Hasan
6.Farhad Reza
7.Rafuque
8.Mashrafee
9.Enamul Haque
10.Sayed Rasel
11. Sahahdat Hussain

AsifTheManRahman
February 18, 2008, 09:10 PM
The best Line up u will ever see. here it is . i talk to Siddon yesterday. here it is ..........lol

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Junaeed Siddeque
3.Shahrier Nafees
4.Mohammad Ashraful
5.Sakib Al Hasan
6.Farhad Reza
7.Rafuque
8.Mashrafee
9.Enamul Haque
10.Sayed Rasel
11. Sahahdat Hussain

The guy doesn't like wicketkeepers then, does he? ;)

This would be my line up for the first test (in that order):

1. Tamim
2. Zunaed
3. Mushfiqur
4. Ashraful
5. Shakib
6. Farhad
7. Mashrafe
8. Rafique
9. Enamul
10. Rasel
11. Shahadat

6 batsmen, 3 spinners, 4 pacers (2 of whom are dead slow, which will definitely give the South African batsmen nightmares).

The batting might be a bit inexperienced, but hey - the experienced ones haven't been scoring too many lately either.

al-Sagar
February 18, 2008, 09:23 PM
if we have 3 pacers and 2 spinners then we have 5 bowlers. why we need TWO more allrounders for additional bowlers ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????

al-Sagar
February 18, 2008, 09:29 PM
i am finding it very tough to predict because dont know how the pitch actually be.

also there ae some injury concerns.

anyway i give a go.

Junaid
tamim/nafees
mushfik
ashraful
aftab
sakib
rafiq
mashrafe
shahadat
enamul
rasel

FagunerAgun
February 18, 2008, 09:39 PM
I wouldn't Dare Not to pick RASEL...he Took SMITH's wicket Twice in succession now. Last was in the world cup! and Im sure None of us here wants to see smith hanging around in the crease.

So my team would be..

Zunaid(good for test)
Tamim(auto choice unless injured)
Nafees(I think he is finding his form..Deffinately not Bash)
Ash(captain)
Farhad/Aftab (depends on Farhad's batting but deffinately he is a better bowler than Aftab)
Sakib (Two in one..lefty)
Mushy /pilot (doesn't matter as none of them are good!)
Mashrafee(auto choice)
Rafiq/Enamul(if Rafiq plays then no need of Enamul vice versa)
Rassel(very good and clever with the new ball)
Shahadat(somewhat effective with the old ball)

I likr you team selection, and we do it every time we play against some one, but then comes the inevitable.

akkel
February 18, 2008, 10:36 PM
I would rather pick 4 batsman and two pacers.

Junaid
tamim/nafees(iff tamim is not fit)
Nafees/Bashar(iff tamim is not fit)
ashraful
aftab
sakib
Mushfiq
rafiq
mashrafe
shahadat
enamul

wiseshah
February 18, 2008, 10:52 PM
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Junaid Siddique
3. Bashar(He will play no matter what)
4. Mohammad Ashraful
5. Mushfiqur Rahim (wish we had another option)
6. Aftab Ahmed
7. Saqibul Hasan/Farhad Reza
8. Mohammad Rafique
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10. Enamul Hoque Jr
11. Shahadat Hossan (Rasel is not good for the old ball)

Besides that he has the best FC average than most of the great batsmen in our team.


then who will take early wicket? for the late order we have rafiq, sakib and enamul. so we need rasel, mash and farhad for first 40 overs

nsd3
February 18, 2008, 10:55 PM
Tamim
Zunaed
Ashraful
Shahriar
Shakib
Farhad
Pilot
Rafiq
Mashrafi
Rajib
Enamul
12th Man: Aftab

Chomok: Bashar out!
Pilot in!
Ashraful in Slot # 3.

Sohel
February 19, 2008, 01:05 AM
My XI, batting order (looking to get 20 wickets): -

1. Tamim
2. Zunaed
3. Ash
4. Abir
5. Moyna
6. Farhad
7. Pilot
8. Koushik
9. Rajib
10. Enam
11. Rafiq

THEIR X, possibly ... :( :-

1. Tamim
2. Zunaed
3. HaBa ... :hairpull:
4. Ash
5. Abir
6. Aftab
7. Moyna
8. GoBo
9. Koushik
10. Rafiq
11. Rajib

wiseshah
February 19, 2008, 01:06 AM
Tamim
Zunaed
Ashraful
Shahriar
Shakib
Farhad
Pilot
Rafiq
Mashrafi
Rajib
Enamul
12th Man: Aftab

Chomok: Bashar out!
Pilot in!
Ashraful in Slot # 3.

God bless u for ur wonderful team selection. 100% support from my side

Miraz
February 19, 2008, 06:11 AM
This is the playing XI in the Dhaka Test

Tamim Iqbal
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Aftab Ahmed
Shariar Nafees
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain

12th Man : Sajidul Islam

Please don't ask me the source. not a bad XI. I am just worried about the second spinner option.

reverse_swing
February 19, 2008, 07:09 AM
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nsd3
February 19, 2008, 07:36 AM
This is the playing XI in the Dhaka Test

Tamim Iqbal
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Aftab Ahmed
Shariar Nafees
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain

12th Man : Sajidul Islam

Please don't ask me the source. not a bad XI. I am just worried about the second spinner option.

Yes Razzak could have been played as a 2nd spinner.

It looks like Siddons has placed focus on Shakib more as a spinner than as a middle order batsman.

Liking for strokemakers might have prompted Siddons to present all 6 top batsmen from his arsenal at the same time.

Aftab and Ashraful will have to bear the burden of being the 5th bowler jointly. I guess Siddons is expecting SA batsmen to fall early in the Mirpur pitch (very different from Fatullah, I heard). If that happens Aftab/Ashraful might not have to work extra to bowl as support bowlers.

al-Sagar
February 19, 2008, 08:05 AM
now i know the 14. so this is the 11 i would select.

Tamim/nafees
junaid
bashar/rajin
ashraful
aftab
sakib
mushfik
mashrafe
rafik
razzak
shahadat

abu2abu
February 19, 2008, 08:13 AM
This is the playing XI in the Dhaka Test

Tamim Iqbal
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Aftab Ahmed
Shariar Nafees
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain

12th Man : Sajidul Islam



No surprises here, but I would have picked enamul. I can however understand why they've gone for shakib as he'll be very useful in the lower order....

tiger_army
February 19, 2008, 08:13 AM
This is the playing XI in the Dhaka Test

Tamim Iqbal
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Aftab Ahmed
Shariar Nafees
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain

12th Man : Sajidul Islam

Please don't ask me the source. not a bad XI. I am just worried about the second spinner option.
Very much defenssive team lack of bowler and full of batsman.......So if these Batsman failed again to score we might end up loosing by innings.....hmm Shud have take Razzak instead of Nafeees/Bashar.....Now it will be tough job for Rafiq bcoz i dont count Sakib as a strike bowler....and didnt we plan to kill Saf using our spin power....im just confused abt the selection..

abu2abu
February 19, 2008, 08:15 AM
If Haba fails again, I'd swap him for Shakib (batting at 3) and pick enamul for Chittagong...

abu2abu
February 19, 2008, 08:17 AM
Now it will be tough job for Rafiq bcoz i dont count Sakib as a strike bowler....and didnt we plan to kill Saf using our spin power....im just confused abt the selection..

Shakib might not be a frontline bowler but he's better than graeme smith or robyn peterson. Even without enamul, BD have a better spin contingent...

tiger_army
February 19, 2008, 08:25 AM
Shakib might not be a frontline bowler but he's better than graeme smith or robyn peterson. Even without enamul, BD have a better spin contingent...

No i understand he is better then Smith or Peterson, but they dont need to ply key role for Saf team bcoz pacers are their strength and they will hav at least 3 genuine pacers in the team. On the other hand spinners are our strength so we shud have at least Razzak in the team....

hoodlum
February 19, 2008, 08:49 AM
if we r looking for 20wickets..we should play another spinner..since enamul is not in the team..razzak should be taken in place of aftab/bashar...otherwise we will be in a big trouble !!!

Omio
February 19, 2008, 08:51 AM
This is the playing XI in the Dhaka Test

Tamim Iqbal
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Aftab Ahmed
Shariar Nafees
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain

12th Man : Sajidul Islam

Please don't ask me the source. not a bad XI. I am just worried about the second spinner option.
Perfect XI for 1st test.

abu2abu
February 19, 2008, 08:54 AM
A lot of people are saying razzak should be in the side. I don't agree, sure he's a fine ODI player, but in tests I think it's quite clear that enamul is better.

However, of course, neither are in this side!

Miraz
February 19, 2008, 08:58 AM
IMO, this might look a defensive team, but perfect approach by Siddons. We need to score as much runs as possible to even create a sense of competitiveness which is always absent in Tests involving Bangladesh.

If batsmen can score some runs, a bowling attack containing Mashrafe, Rafiq, Shahadat, Shakib, Aftab/Ashraful should be enough to trouble the South Africans.

The other option could be to drop SN in favor of Razzak, but I am not so sure about Razzak in Test match.

FHossain
February 19, 2008, 09:33 AM
It will be pointless playing an extra batsman rather than another bowler if that batsman is bashar. We are getting bit carried away with thinking SA can't play spin. Rafique and Shaqib is enough. You can't play three spinners in a test and expect to post 300+ with a batsman short. However, I think we will regret not having an extra seamer. two pace bowlers in a test match rarely happens and raely works. Wouldnt this be more balanced:

Shariar
Zunaed
Ashraful
Shaqib
Saleh
Aftab
Rahim
Rafique
Mortaza
Shahadat
Islam

We are expecting Tamim to be great just cos of NZ tour. He hasnt played since then, and he's still recovering from injury. I wouldnt have sajidul in a test team but since they dropped rasel he's the only seamer left as a 3rd seamer. Bashar would end up makin a 5 or 12. Same as sajidul maybe, so this way is better I think?

amra_korbo_joy
February 19, 2008, 09:49 AM
Bangladesh squad: Mohammad Ashraful (capt), Mashrafe Mortaza, Abdur Razzak, Aftab Ahmed, Habibul Bashar, Junaid Siddique, Mohammad Rafique, Mushfiqur Rahim (wk), Rajin Saleh, Sajidul Islam, Shahadat Hossain, Shahriar Nafees, Shakib Al Hasan, Tamim Iqbal

http://content-www.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/story/337837.html


why slecting Sajidul and dropping Rasel
why selecting out of form Bashar and Nafees and dropping Rakibul (though he was not in the 17, but he is a test batsman)

Tigers_eye
February 19, 2008, 10:09 AM
Great, they are treating Shakib as a bowler I see. How many overs he will bowl? 20?

Alright, Shakib 20, Shahadat 20, Mash 15, Rafique 25. That is 80. May be Ash can have 5, Aftab the other 5 overs. Early wicket is a must. Come on Mash-Shahadat.

FHossain
February 19, 2008, 10:17 AM
Early wickets are key! Your right. Would have felt more confident if Mash-Rasel took new ball with shahdat 3rd seamer. Two seamers not enough. we'l pay for it if we dont go with three. Only Two pacers + bashar= defeat!!!!!

Kabir
February 19, 2008, 10:24 AM
I don't want Aftab to bowl at all. He's been too expensive lately. May be he lost his touch, and cannot be used as a part-time bowler anymore.

Although he batted well so far, but he needs to do better. He's a senior player, and has the potential to score big. He just needs to cool down and try a little harder.

KnightBD
February 19, 2008, 10:29 AM
IMO, this might look a defensive team, but perfect approach by Siddons. We need to score as much runs as possible to even create a sense of competitiveness which is always absent in Tests involving Bangladesh.

If batsmen can score some runs, a bowling attack containing Mashrafe, Rafiq, Shahadat, Shakib, Aftab/Ashraful should be enough to trouble the South Africans.

The other option could be to drop SN in favor of Razzak, but I am not so sure about Razzak in Test match.

:up: ditto.
Fans, who are thinking we should have another bowler, remember in all test matches we lose within our first innings as we do not post a reasonable total. I support Sidons approach of looking for a draw, and presenting a defensive team. When we are able to draw frequently, we can go for offensive teams to try to win matches.

I forgot when was the last time we draw with a good test team (did we ever?). So those of you are on for a offensive team, should consider the reality of our test matches.

Kabir
February 19, 2008, 10:35 AM
why slecting Sajidul and dropping Rasel

Is Rasel fit to play in Test matches already? I doubt it really!

akabir77
February 19, 2008, 10:40 AM
:up: ditto.
...
I forgot when was the last time we draw with a good test team (did we ever?). So those of you are on for a offensive team, should consider the reality of our test matches.

Yes we drew as close as last dec with india...

and the draws that we had by playing all 5 days were against WI in WI and ZIM in BD...

akabir77
February 19, 2008, 10:43 AM
why slecting Sajidul and dropping Rasel
why selecting out of form Bashar and Nafees and dropping Rakibul (though he was not in the 17, but he is a test batsman)
They r saying rasel is not full fit so take that into consideration. you know they r watching the game from the field...

And you want to debu another batsman? please... if he is that good let him play A team and academy team and then come to NTL. Those days of playing a good innings of 40+ and getting anNTL call is over...

Eshen
February 19, 2008, 10:45 AM
This is the playing XI in the Dhaka Test

Tamim Iqbal
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Aftab Ahmed
Shariar Nafees
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain

12th Man : Sajidul Islam
This is basically the same team that played in the last test (against NZ) except for Rafique in place of Sajid. Chopping and changing players for every match got us nowhere in the past, so I am willing to wait and see how this conservative team selection policy works for us (provided Miraz got the right info).

akabir77
February 19, 2008, 10:45 AM
cant believe they dropped Jr. May be they noticed something that we can't. hope razzak bowls well... but i am not sure he is a test material or not... why do they always test these stuff in ntl matches? couldn't they just played both razzak and jr. in the practice match and see who is bowling better?

Ajfar
February 19, 2008, 10:48 AM
dropping rasel ain't so badd..but Jr.???? i dn't get itt...

Fazal
February 19, 2008, 10:59 AM
This is the playing XI in the Dhaka Test

Please don't ask me the source. not a bad XI. I am just worried about the second spinner option.

Why should we? We already know the source. Don't we?

wiseshah
February 19, 2008, 11:01 AM
God forbid, but if someone get injured among the bowlers, who will complete the bowling quota?

if we have only 4 bowlers in the team
rafiq
mashrafe (very much injury prone)
shahadat (same)
sakib (he is more of a batsman)

so actually 3 bowlers. definitely we need razzaq/ enam jr. dont u think so?

Fazal
February 19, 2008, 11:10 AM
What bowling quota in TEST match?

If regular bowlers get injured, let Bashar/Ash/Aftab earn their money one way or another. i.e either stay in the wicket so that it will reduce the time for BD to field, or if they fail in batting let them do the dirty job and bowl for a while. Shobaikeyee Khaite Khaitey Hobe...

abu2abu
February 19, 2008, 11:16 AM
perhaps we are all forgetting that rafique is quite a batsman and can bowl long, controlling spells. Didn't rafique open in an ODI once?

As I've said before Bashar should be dropped if he doesn't perform and I'm not entirely convinced with Shahriar nafees at no5, he's really occupying Rajin's place in the side at present...

al Furqaan
February 19, 2008, 11:31 AM
Just a little bit discomfited to see Bashar's name here otherwise not a bad troop!


not at all...we bat all the way down to sakib or rafiq at 8 or 9...and depending on situation mash too. we have 8 specialist batsmen, cuz one of them bashar is not going to do anything.

akabir77
February 19, 2008, 11:55 AM
perhaps we are all forgetting that rafique is quite a batsman and can bowl long, controlling spells. Didn't rafique open in an ODI once?

...

Not just once but many times. and he was the MOM of Bd's first ever ODI win while opening with bat (made 77 hence his jersey number 77)...

he also have a century against WI in WI while batting at number 9.

bdchamp20
February 19, 2008, 01:00 PM
My final XI:
JUNAID SIDDIQUE
TAMIM IQBAL KHAN(if not fit SHAHRIAR NAFEES AHMED)
MUSHFIQUR RAHIM(WK)
MOHAMMAD ASHRAFUL(C)
SHAKIB AL HASAN
QAZI HABIBUL BASHAR
MOHAMMAD RAFIQUE
MASHRAFE-BIN- MORTAZA
ABDUR RAJJAK
KAZI SHAHADAT HOSSAIN
SAJEDUL ISLAM

dissapointed not to have Rasel

bdpride04
February 19, 2008, 01:04 PM
it seems like we gonna do well against South Africa. btw hello everyone new here

Fazal
February 19, 2008, 01:15 PM
Hello !!!!! Can you hear me?

Murad
February 19, 2008, 01:18 PM
Hello !!!!! Can you hear me?

I can'tttt

apni ki ektu jhore bolben.. plzz?

tiger_omar
February 19, 2008, 01:58 PM
I am very disapointed that Rasel, Enamul jr. and Reza didn't make the squad.

But maybe the selectors and Jamie Siddons discussed the starting 11 for the first test and none of them were going to make that team (God knows why, especially Rasel and Enamul), so therefore they decided to not even take them in the squand of 14.

Tigers_eye
February 19, 2008, 02:02 PM
it seems like we gonna do well against South Africa. btw hello everyone new here
Hello bdpride04,
Welcome to BanglaCricket. Hope you enjoy your stay. Yes, I hope so too. SA will get a rude awakening.

Dhurr
February 19, 2008, 02:05 PM
Hello !!!!! Can you hear me?

Fazal mamu, restaurant thread update korsen? Bhabtasi deshe jaiya ghuira ashum.

Murad
February 19, 2008, 02:10 PM
Fazal mamu, restaurant thread update korsen? Bhabtasi deshe jaiya ghuira ashum.

Deshe giye uni restrooms thekei ber hote pareni aaar aapni onake restaurant thread update er kotha jigaitechen..

bodhna niye kul paini....becharaa......:-p

Dhakablues
February 19, 2008, 02:22 PM
You know,, I think what this type of ugly subjective selection does to the player,, none thought about that part. If a performing player sees that he is not getting chance in the team because the coach or selectors have other ideas than performance/talent.. why would a player be motivated to do better? The frustrating experience will lead to think that there are other things goes on in the team selection. It will create a distrust and grouping within the squad. At the end, none knows exactly what it takes to get into the national team other than having the "good relationship" with the selectors because, Experience wont do it, Talent wont cut it, Performance is irrevant.. so what does it take to get into the team? I fear that if this goes on,, our team will soon become a team like Pakistan/Zimbabwe. And its really frustrating for performing players.

Dhurr
February 19, 2008, 02:23 PM
Deshe giye uni restrooms thekei ber hote pareni aaar aapni onake restaurant thread update er kotha jigaitechen..

bodhna niye kul pani....becharaa......:-p

Ai hai! Kon ki mamu? Taile amare restaurant er bepare tips dibo keda?

Dhurr
February 19, 2008, 02:26 PM
This is the playing XI in the Dhaka Test

Tamim Iqbal
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Aftab Ahmed
Shariar Nafees
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain

12th Man : Sajidul Islam

Please don't ask me the source. not a bad XI. I am just worried about the second spinner option.


Naujubillah. Eita ki? Bashar run korbo na, kom beshi guaranteed. Ashraful khelle maybe 1 ta innings khelbo. Aftab Ahmed er average thakbo 25. Mushfiqur Rahim hoilo Dabba. So we are going against South Africa with new batsman Zunayed, new batsman Tamim and two slightly more experienced SN and Shaqib. Khobor ase amader.

Fazal
February 19, 2008, 03:15 PM
muradnyc[/B] ]
Deshe giye uni restrooms thekei ber hote pareni aaar aapni onake restaurant thread update er kotha jigaitechen..

bodhna niye kul pani....becharaa......:-p

Ai hai! Kon ki mamu? Taile amare restaurant er bepare tips dibo keda?

Mamu Re neye Fazlami? Here it is (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=14951&page=3)

RazabQ
February 19, 2008, 08:21 PM
The selection of Shakib makes it evident that Siddons is looking to choke the Saffers out. Sakib's biggest takeaway from the practice much was that his skiddy round-arm SLAs were tough to score from. So he'll have to do a hogs share of bowling with Rafique coming in play as the ball gets older. Mash & Shahadat will presumably be used in short spells and told to go all out. This also means that the onus is on the batters for a big first innnings total. 400+ at a minimum. Saffers will be keen to dominate and we'll have to play on their impatience. Getting Kallis and Prince for cheap will be key as those two are the most patient batters/grafters in the side.

Mahir
February 19, 2008, 09:32 PM
Saffers will be keen to dominate and we'll have to play on their impatience. Getting Kallis and Prince for cheap will be key as those two are the most patient batters/grafters in the side.

That_is_the pivotal point of this series, I figure. All the results will depend on how well we apply this formula.

roaring tigerz
February 19, 2008, 11:58 PM
Where the heck is the 2nd spinner. We say our main weapon is spin, we prepare a slow, low pitch, and then take only 1 specialist spinner. Ai selection ar matha mundu bujhtesi na!

Dhakablues
February 20, 2008, 01:00 AM
We said enough about how dumb our selectors are,, now I have to question how dumbest dumbo Ashraful is to select his final eleven for a test without even 4 specialist bowler,, Playing defensive is one thing but playing 8 batsman or only 3 specialist bowler in a test team is a record that should be noted in the history books. This is unprecedented and will question whether we have the cricketing skills at all to play for test cricket. I mean WTF is this, joke at the expense of our pride?

Murad
February 20, 2008, 01:05 AM
We said enough about how dumb our selectors are,, now I have to question how dumbest dumbo Ashraful is to select his final eleven for a test without even 4 specialist bowler,, Playing defensive is one thing but playing 8 batsman or only 3 specialist bowler in a test team is a record that should be noted in the history books. This is unprecedented and will question whether we have the cricketing skills at all to play for test cricket. I mean WTF is this, joke at the expense of our pride?

I don't think Siddons will let AShraful select the final 11.

Final 11 will be selected by the coach thats for sure.

Dhakablues
February 20, 2008, 01:15 AM
I think thats where we draw the line,,, Ashraful will need to act up like a captain than an obidient student. After all, he is the captain of the national team and not the desciple of Jamie Siddons. I am unsure who makes the final 11 but it should be the captain indeed. If Siddons is making every decision of the team including the final 11,, I have to say that we must not let that happen at the expense of our national pride. He has a job to train/prepare the team but its upto the captain to feild the team that he thinks best can execute his strategy. All this is academic offcourse,, if Ashraful is please to be the Abdul of Jamai Siddons

yaseer
February 20, 2008, 02:14 AM
IMO, this might look a defensive team, but perfect approach by Siddons. We need to score as much runs as possible to even create a sense of competitiveness which is always absent in Tests involving Bangladesh.

If batsmen can score some runs, a bowling attack containing Mashrafe, Rafiq, Shahadat, Shakib, Aftab/Ashraful should be enough to trouble the South Africans.

The other option could be to drop SN in favor of Razzak, but I am not so sure about Razzak in Test match.

Miraz Bhai i understand your point, but my concern is....Mirpur wicket is very much different, This is a kind of pitch, where a drawn test match is impossible. So, if you don't want to loose, then you have only one option, win it! With this bowling line-up (3 specialist) can we take 20 wickets? 275-325 will be good score in Mirpur, I dont think BD can score more than that in Mirpur even we play 11 batsmen. So, what we need to do to compete is get SA all-out below 300. So, my choice is to go for 4 specialist bowler. Play the match in a conventional way to win it!!!

nsd3
February 20, 2008, 04:00 AM
Miraz Bhai i understand your point, but my concern is....Mirpur wicket is very much different, This is a kind of pitch, where a drawn test match is impossible. So, if you don't want to loose, then you have only one option, win it! With this bowling line-up (3 specialist) can we take 20 wickets? 275-325 will be good score in Mirpur, I dont think BD can score more than that in Mirpur even we play 11 batsmen. So, what we need to do to compete is get SA all-out below 300. So, my choice is to go for 4 specialist bowler. Play the match in a conventional way to win it!!!
I think having 8 batsmen is not bad. As mirpur is not an ideal batting wicket bowlers (who have already shown good performance for BD in tests) would be finding it a bit easier than the batsmen to play on. Hence all the strokemakers (TI, ZI, HB, AH, SN, AftH, SH, meybe MR) might line up for the battle. Also 250 score even would not be bad on this wicket, I heard. This 250 even would be hard - very hard for BD batsmen to score, I guess. We can't take 11 batsmen as some specialist bowlers should be there to bowl. So the highest limit might be 8 - something we never tried before. Ofcourse we have to wait and see who makes up the final 11.

auntu
February 20, 2008, 05:04 AM
still can't agree with the exclusion of Jr. ......... may b siddon plays a role here. i ave full trust on him for choosing player. Junaed n Tamim r for example..

nsd3
February 20, 2008, 05:41 AM
still can't agree with the disclusion of Jr. ......... may b siddon plays a role here. i ave full trust on him for choosing player. Junaed n Tamim r for example..
Just curious - did u mean exclusion?

auntu
February 20, 2008, 06:13 AM
thanx nsd3 im very bad in spelling.

RazabQ
February 20, 2008, 01:40 PM
I posted this on the match thread but it's relevant to this discussion as well:

http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showpost.php?p=623470&postcount=44

Fazal
February 20, 2008, 02:00 PM
I think its not that we haven't improved. Its more that the rest improved more than we did, and thereby we have more to climb.

AsifTheManRahman
February 20, 2008, 02:02 PM
I posted this on the match thread but it's relevant to this discussion as well:

http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showpost.php?p=623470&postcount=44

There clearly has been an improvement in ability, but the improvement in performance hasn't been as visible as it probably should have been. Then again, this is due to several factors, and I believe things will even out over time.

Dhakablues
February 20, 2008, 06:15 PM
We have improved many folds.. but we also have digressed in one area. Consistency. We are very inconsistent today than we were back in the Raqibul days. Raqibul and Gong,, used to always score 170-180 runs. Today we can range from 100-270 runs, lose to Zimbabwe but win against South Africa, Blast Muthial Murlidharan but cave in to Monty Panesar...

RazabQ
February 20, 2008, 07:40 PM
Youth = inconsistency.

Miraz
February 20, 2008, 07:45 PM
Youth = inconsistency.

Except U-19 boys.

Murad
February 20, 2008, 07:56 PM
Except U-19 boys.

But they play against other youth team.

Our National team(with full of kids) play against the old men..

al Furqaan
February 20, 2008, 08:20 PM
There clearly has been an improvement in ability, but the improvement in performance hasn't been as visible as it probably should have been. Then again, this is due to several factors, and I believe things will even out over time.

yea, actual stats wise and results wise we haven't improved much, if any at all. however on potential, we are manifold better than even 2-3 years ago.

there are ashraful, aftab, tamim, and junaid who appear skilled enough to take any bowling attack to the cleaners and back. then there is mushy who i believe will become a poor man's rahul dravid in due time. add in farhad and sakib who define "limited yet scrappy" to the max, and you have a group of average age around 22 (including age cheating) with a minimum of 10 years of solid cricket ahead of them.

on the bowling front, you have mashrafee who is, at his worst, toothless yet indomitable and at his best can be a methodical sniper. shahadat hasn't played a poor test match since his debut nearly 3 years ago, and on his day he will rip through batting orders like a shark tearing up veal. rasel has control, swing, and variation. he will surprise us all before before his career is over. the baby-faced sajid has the tools rasel has, the pace he doesn't but lacks his control. control can be learned, but the extra 2 yards of pace he has over rasel cannot. very much an exciting prospect.

razzak is as solid a limited overs spinner you'll find. and enamul i feel is the bowling version of alok or tushar: the stop-start method of selecting/unselecting him is not helping. but a phenom he could be.

and we're not even talking about any of the U19ers we seem to grow on trees.

when you have 22 year olds playing a game its taken nations of grown men decades or even centuries to master, you will have tough times. but our boys have the immense potential to succeed in the end.

Tokai
February 20, 2008, 08:38 PM
It does not make any difference who plays, they all sucks. Because of pitch, we'll have a better show but it will be limited to avoiding innings defeat at most.

bdchamp20
February 21, 2008, 09:04 AM
This is the playing XI in the Dhaka Test

Tamim Iqbal
Zunaed Siddique
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Aftab Ahmed
Shariar Nafees
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossain

12th Man : Sajidul Islam

Please don't ask me the source. not a bad XI. I am just worried about the second spinner option.
hmmm, so who r we going to bowl with: Mash, Rajib, Rafique, Shakib and Ash..shouldve picked Sajed or Rajjak and left out either Aftab or SN

bdchamp20
February 21, 2008, 09:05 AM
We must ensure we bat first

Miraz
February 21, 2008, 09:27 AM
hmmm, so who r we going to bowl with: Mash, Rajib, Rafique, Shakib and Ash..shouldve picked Sajed or Rajjak and left out either Aftab or SN

Actually that might happen in the last minute. SN may face the axe to accommodate Razzak.

Sohel
February 21, 2008, 09:29 AM
Aftab's 109ers can be quite potent and don't forget HaBa's googlies ... ;)

mahbubH
February 21, 2008, 09:31 AM
They left out Rajin and Sajedul from the 14. That means if Tamim does not pass the fitness test we will have Razzak in the 11! I don't understand Siddons this decision at least.

abu2abu
February 21, 2008, 10:53 AM
They left out Rajin and Sajedul from the 14. That means if Tamim does not pass the fitness test we will have Razzak in the 11! I don't understand Siddons this decision at least.

Maybe they are confident Tamim will pass the fitness test?..

exotic
February 21, 2008, 11:11 AM
They left out Rajin and Sajedul from the 14. That means if Tamim does not pass the fitness test we will have Razzak in the 11! I don't understand Siddons this decision at least.


I actually hope good sense prevail, and they select Razzak (since he is in the sqaud) in the playing XI. Otherwise it will be too tough a ask for Rafique (in his late 30's), Mash (susceptible to injury) and Sakib (i don't think he even bowl 20+ over a day in the domestic cricket, here we are talking about TEST) to bowl through out the day. Or else Ashraful has to bowl quite a bit, which I think will help realesing the pressure on the SA.

And as many of the cricket pundits say, if your top six batsmen can't produce run then the extra one (read the seventh one) not gonna make any difference. We have to have keep faith on our top batsmen (no one actually selected them for us, its us..... our selectors who have selected them), if they fail then let it be. We have to start the match on a positive mind-set. No way we can start a TEST with 3.5 bowlers (no disrespect to Sakib). I am really looking forward to this series.

Dhakablues
February 21, 2008, 11:15 AM
So at the end, Razzaq and Rafique both will play. And thats the releif. Rumors that we play 3 specialist bowlers was not true and thats great. At the end, what we have is an okay team.
Final Team seems:
Zunaed, Shahrier, Bashar, Ashraful, Sakib, Aftab, Mushfique, Razzaque, Rafique, Shahadat, Mashrafee.

mshakir56
February 21, 2008, 11:59 AM
couldn't they select Rjin instead of Bashar, I mean atleast Rajin could hold one end up, and not try to hit pull shots that top edges for six !

Sohel
February 21, 2008, 12:16 PM
Our openers.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/fed902dac0.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Beamer
February 21, 2008, 12:35 PM
I actually hope good sense prevail, and they select Razzak (since he is in the sqaud) in the playing XI. Otherwise it will be too tough a ask for Rafique (in his late 30's), Mash (susceptible to injury) and Sakib (i don't think he even bowl 20+ over a day in the domestic cricket, here we are talking about TEST) to bowl through out the day. Or else Ashraful has to bowl quite a bit, which I think will help realesing the pressure on the SA.

And as many of the cricket pundits say, if your top six batsmen can't produce run then the extra one (read the seventh one) not gonna make any difference. We have to have keep faith on our top batsmen (no one actually selected them for us, its us..... our selectors who have selected them), if they fail then let it be. We have to start the match on a positive mind-set. No way we can start a TEST with 3.5 bowlers (no disrespect to Sakib). I am really looking forward to this series.

I agree.

Actually, I feel its nothing but lunacy to contemplate the idea of dropping SN or Aftab to include Raj. I also think Raj must play, but, not at the expense if either SN or Aftab. Dropping Bashar is the only solution now provided Tamim is fit and ready to go. I suspect he is ready, otherwise, they wouldn't have waited till game time. I don't see why Sakib can't bat at no.6? He should be ok for home pitches. You drop Bashar and take Raj. That will not weaken batting one bit, but will strengthen bowling by many folds. You just can't go into a test match with 3.5 bowlers ( like you said ) and expect to get 20 wkts, specially where the pitch indicates it will stay low and favor spinners. JS talked about courage and conviction. Now show the way by playing this team :

1 Tamim 2 Junaid 3 Aftab 4 Ash 5 SN 6 Sakib 7 Gold 8 Rafiq 9 Mash 10 Raj 11 Rajib.

reyme
February 21, 2008, 01:32 PM
Very nicely put by Beamer, perfect analysis! Now wake up Aleem and Bucknor and dont screw us up.

Murad
February 21, 2008, 01:33 PM
howcome ebar playing 11 choose korte eto late korche ora???

shob shomoi to aager din e thik korto.. ebar dekhi dui dol e chintai ache... hmmm

reyme
February 21, 2008, 01:48 PM
This is a golden opportunity to get some respect back for test cricket. I hope our players play with utmost sincerity and professionalism.

If I was the bowler, I would try to take wicket in every ball, and as a batsman feel like every single ball I face earns me a million dollar. Since money is a non factor for our players they might consider every ball they face, earns them a plate of biriyani or new car or new house or a supermodel girl friend or (okay lets not go there).

Ehsan
February 21, 2008, 01:51 PM
Our openers.


Sohel bhai, pichon theke je uki martese...oita ke? Ashraful? Aftab?

SS
February 21, 2008, 01:55 PM
Zunaed, Shahrier, Bashar, Ashraful, Sakib, Aftab, Mushfique, Razzaque, Rafique, Shahadat, Mashrafee.
or
Tamim, Junaid, Aftab, Ash, SN, Sakib, Mushfique, Rafiq,Mash, Raj, Rajib.

Aftab, Ash, Bashar and SN seriously need to take responsibility of BD batting. Otherwise we will always have problem going with four specialist bowlers. They should be mature by now as they are playing for now.

Murad
February 21, 2008, 02:02 PM
Tamim is not playing.

according to HabaGuba in another thread.

zainab
February 21, 2008, 03:22 PM
Whilst fielding practice, Tamim had a bandage on his thumb, I think that they are right not to play him. another week's layoff will be better for him, then he can play in the second test match.

Mahmood
February 21, 2008, 03:35 PM
The shortlist has been announced, Sajid and Rajin is out.

The 12 men squad...

Ashraful
Masri
Bashar
Tamim
Nafis
Junaid
Sakib
Mushfiq
Rajib
Razzak
Rafiq
Aftab.

12th man: depends on who is injured and who is fit between Tamim and Bashar.

Source: http://www.dailynayadiganta.com/fullnews.asp?News_ID=68437&sec=7

tonoy
February 21, 2008, 03:38 PM
that means habaguba is right. Bashar is indeed playing then.

Tigers_eye
February 21, 2008, 03:39 PM
Great Abdur Razzak and Rafiq will bowl in Tandom!! That means less pressure on Shakib and Mash. Now can someone get Tamim recover fast. Where is the magic spray?

SS
February 21, 2008, 03:46 PM
Ineptitute of our batters will make this test a mess. If a batsmen do not realize how to play test and leave the balls according, you can expect a good showing from him.

I am so amazed that after playing so many tests Ashraful and Aftab are making same mistakes again and again.

Tigers_eye
February 21, 2008, 03:53 PM
As it seems more likely that HB will be playing I hope he fulfills his promise.

"I just need a big score and I believe it will happen in this match. I have been working on my batting and in some technical points," he informed. - From Daily Star.
http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=24390

Dhakablues
February 21, 2008, 03:55 PM
There are chances that Bashar/Mushfique/Aftab might fail. Though Aftab is trying hard but the rest is just there. And I think the management team has pretty much fixed the playing XI to include these players from now on irrespective of their failures/off-form. The only change that will happen for the next test would be,, when Tamim comes back, Shahrier will lose his place unless he scores big. We said enough about Mushfique/Bashar. Lets see how far our patience can go..

Ehsan
February 21, 2008, 04:17 PM
From the 12 men squad, it appears more to me that Razzak will be left out. I don't think we will play 3 spinners. So, again it looks like Tamim may play.

The shortlist has been announced, Sajid and Rajin is out.

The 12 men squad...

Ashraful
Masri
Bashar
Tamim
Nafis
Junaid
Sakib
Mushfiq
Rajib
Razzak
Rafiq
Aftab.

12th man: depends on who is injured and who is fit between Tamim and Bashar.

Source: http://www.dailynayadiganta.com/fullnews.asp?News_ID=68437&sec=7

MarufH
February 21, 2008, 04:34 PM
I think the selectors didnt wanna have to chose between Rassel and Shahadat and thats why they didnt pick him for 14 members... kinda make sense. Anyways, my eys will be all over Rafique... "make us proud bro"

akabir77
February 21, 2008, 05:12 PM
so ai chele khela with rajin ki bondho hobey na cholbey?

selector will pick him for 14 member team
and
coach will not pick him for the final 11...

MarufH
February 21, 2008, 05:14 PM
I think coach made it clear that he wants talented players.. whether they perform or not.... (by picking TI & JS in NZ tour)

Fazal
February 21, 2008, 05:19 PM
Atleast with Rajin's case, I am with the coach.

Becharar batting dekhte bohut kosto hoi, mayaoo lagey bohut.

Sohel
February 21, 2008, 05:23 PM
Sohel bhai, pichon theke je uki martese...oita ke? Ashraful? Aftab?

GoBoy.

MarufH
February 21, 2008, 05:29 PM
Atleast with Rajin's case, I am with the coach.

Becharar batting dekhte bohut kosto hoi, mayaoo lagey bohut.


hehehhee...lol

tipu_09
February 21, 2008, 08:23 PM
"go with talent is the best move"
what do you think?

Ajfar
February 21, 2008, 09:05 PM
delete

One World
February 21, 2008, 09:45 PM
I think coach made it clear that he wants talented players.. whether they perform or not.... (by picking TI & JS in NZ tour)

And HB :confused: