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Miraz
February 23, 2008, 07:09 AM
The second day pitch wasn't anything different than a typical Dhaka pitch except that occasionally it stayed low.

According to curator, the wicket will start to break from 3rd day afternoon. Now it's extremely important for Bangladesh batsman to occupy the crease as much as possible. Doesn't matter even runs are not coming. Staying on for 10 minutes should count as 1 run as that will force South Africans to bat on a more difficult surface.

And we all know if we can stay on for some time, runs will automatically come. I am looking forward to see BD batsmen scoring at 2 runs per over and score at least another 100 runs. That means another 50 over batting.

Those 50 overs will be the key, by that time wicket will loose its firmness and it will be more difficult to score runs.

I hope the team management will be able to transmit this message effectively to our boys.

MohammedC
February 23, 2008, 07:12 AM
Play till lunch without loosing any wicket will take the game away from Saffers. Run will come during the afternoon session

Omio
February 23, 2008, 07:14 AM
We got one more recognise batsman left (Sakib). So every thing depends on this three batsman.
Aftab and Junayed will hav to play well of 1st ten overs.

bossman111
February 23, 2008, 07:22 AM
Mushy is more than capable with the bat.

I think South Africa will have learnt some lessons from their 1st Inns. Kallis will be the big wicket. He won't play another irresponsible shot like the one in the 1st inns again.

They wont get knocked over quite so easily as in the 1st inns. Need to get the target over 250 for sure

Protic
February 23, 2008, 07:24 AM
I hope they get atleast 60 more runs in this partnership..and maybe another 60/50 from shakib n whoever is not out ..junaed/aftab.. then ..20 with mushy..and some quickfire from mash n rafique.. sounds easy.. but will be hard.. Lets see..

pilot fan
February 23, 2008, 07:25 AM
think we nned to bat the first hour with loosing maxmum of one wicket

i think we need 270+ to challange south africa but we can get those runs

Xavier
February 23, 2008, 07:51 AM
After this partnership there are still Saqib, Rahim, Mortaza and Rafique to bat... we can expect 20+ runs from each of them... so let us be confident. :)

zainab
February 23, 2008, 07:59 AM
Mushy is more than capable with the bat.

I think South Africa will have learnt some lessons from their 1st Inns. Kallis will be the big wicket. He won't play another irresponsible shot like the one in the 1st inns again.

They wont get knocked over quite so easily as in the 1st inns. Need to get the target over 250 for sure


You are so right. I have seen them come back effectively against Pakistan and West Indies. They will not make the same mistake twice.

Ashraful once again, did not do much with the bat. If Zunaid and Aftab can salvage something here, then Sakib contributing, they should reach 250 runs.
Zunaid is turning out to be very competitive and dependable. Here is one young guy who had to perform and fight his way into the ODI squad, then into the Test side and has determination and above all, a good cricketing brain.
BCB should adopt the attitude like Australia, once you are in, you have to perform to maintain your slot, or else there are many waiting to replace non performers.
Allah bless this young man and may he perform better each and every day.

zainab
February 23, 2008, 08:03 AM
After this partnership there are still Saqib, Rahim, Mortaza and Rafique to bat... we can expect 20+ runs from each of them... so let us be confident. :)

Rafique is capable of getting some runs, cant depend on Mash, Mushy and Shahadat.
If each fella try to stay at the wicket for a while, then thismatch can be take to the end of the fourth day.

When last has one seen a first innings lead by BD in the first innings of a Test match?

SS
February 23, 2008, 08:15 AM
I totally agree with you guys..."statying in the wicket is the key"
But how many BD batsmen can do that with SA level of bowling
SA will get us tommorrow for sure and I doubt we will be there till lunch we lost 4 of our specialist batsmen. Our top order should have waited more and remember to stay in the wicket longer. even if Aftab and Zunaid score 30 more runs. and rest others can contribute 100 runs (I doubt this tailenders and not those tailenders from four years back). we might have only 130 runs more maximum.

Ashraful, Tamim, Bashar and Nafees basically didn't know how to stay on the wicket and give something to the team and the country for the firt time.

FagunerAgun
February 23, 2008, 08:20 AM
I am very optimistic, this partnership plus few good batsmen can bring some more runs given that they will be batting sensibly tomorrow. Then our bowlers will keep their rhythm and good fire work.
Even afraid and hesitant, but I have begun to dream of victory a bit.
:flag: Go BD GO :flag:

PoorFan
February 23, 2008, 08:24 AM
Yes as long as they can bat will bring the result in our favor ( win, draw, well fought ). And it all depends on Aftab primarily, if he can stay focused there is chance, and if he fall early tomorrow ... typical BD collapse we might see once again. Hope for the best, dont want to see our dream fade away before its got shape.

capslock
February 23, 2008, 09:12 AM
I have the disquieting feeling that we will get knocked out in about half a session tomorrow, let's hope I am wrong.

Ajfar
February 23, 2008, 09:15 AM
we hav to bat as long as we can tomm...runs will come eventually..

Roni_uk
February 23, 2008, 09:52 AM
we need another 150 at least to have any chance. Kallis/Prince/AB is not gonna let us go as easily as they did in the first innings. They will take their revenge by any means.

lamisa
February 23, 2008, 10:03 AM
this is getting scary.but look guys,on the other hand,it would be an old and tird pitch 2 bat on for the saffers once we r done.the ball will keep low and if the bowlers can maintain line and length,there r very sharp chances of lbws and say even bowled outs.

RezOne
February 23, 2008, 10:08 AM
We have a great chance here. Let's hope the boys don't let us down like they have so many other times. Just play hard and hope for the best.

Rubu
February 23, 2008, 11:34 AM
We need another 150 runs to have a competition. Lets see if we can hold on to our nerves.

irteja
February 23, 2008, 11:40 AM
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AsifTheManRahman
February 23, 2008, 11:45 AM
This might be very difficult, but a lead of anything less than 300 might make it tough for us to snatch a win. Understand that batsmen like Amla and Kallis don't fall cheaply everyday, unless Rafique mamu and Shahadat bhaigna have a few more tricks up their sleeves (Shahadat and Junaid say a target of 220/230 should be good, but I wouldn't be too comfortable against the current South African batting line up).

Nafis_BD
February 23, 2008, 11:52 AM
I have the disquieting feeling that we will get knocked out in about half a session tomorrow, let's hope I am wrong.

I got the same feeling too but I hope I am wrong and opur batsmen are not even close to this situation. The Saffers have a strong line up and can come back easily so we need atleast a score of 265+ to challenge them. But the main thing would be to lose no wickets and stay in the crease for as long as possible because the Saffers would get frustrated and runs will come easily. I hope our batsmen realize that if you stay in the crease, runs will automatically come and the longer you stay without getting out the more runs and advantage we will have!!

ammark
February 23, 2008, 11:52 AM
This might be very difficult, but a lead of anything less than 300 might make it tough for us to snatch a win. Understand that batsmen like Amla and Kallis don't fall cheaply everyday, unless Rafique mamu and Shahadat bhaigna have a few more tricks up their sleeves (Shahadat and Junaid say a target of 220/230 should be good, but I wouldn't be too comfortable against the current South African batting line up).

Well said. To add to that, lets keep in mind, we're only just onto the 3rd day. Thats 3 days of cricket left, of which SA will have have the luxury of 7-8 sessions to play through in total.

Miraz
February 23, 2008, 11:58 AM
250 run lead and batting up to tea should set the win for us.

I believe wicket will start to deteriorate from tomorrow lunch.

Kallis, Amla will find scoring difficult on a slow low and deteriorated wicket.

AsifTheManRahman
February 23, 2008, 12:00 PM
The last few overs last night were pretty tense, especially when the light started to go bad. Good thing we didn't lose one of Aftab or Junaid right before the end of the day.

I liked the way we built partnerships - a 50 partnership for the 4th wicket was followed not by a collapse but an unbeaten 40 partnership. There's definitely been a change in attitude - I guess we'll find out how long that lasts.

SS
February 23, 2008, 12:04 PM
Well said. To add to that, lets keep in mind, we're only just onto the 3rd day. Thats 3 days of cricket left, of which SA will have have the luxury of 7-8 sessions to play through in total.
I totally agree ...SA will win the match as they will have 7-8 sessions left, our top order should have stayed till 3rd day straight.
We never avail right opportunity when it is needed.

ialbd
February 23, 2008, 12:23 PM
the problem is there is so much time left in this test. If we bat all day tomorrow and set the 250-300 runs target with 2 days remaining...... SA wont feel the pressure....

now batting all day tomorrow..... hmm..... like that ever happened. Maybe if SA come to bat at the end of the day and we pick up couple of wicket.... that'll seal the game....

AsifTheManRahman
February 23, 2008, 12:25 PM
Say we DO bat all day tomorrow, or most of it. The fact that there will still be two days of play left shouldn't be too hard as long as we can build up a healthy lead, because if the Africans can't bat on this pitch on the second day, they will pee their undies on the fourth.

jisaan
February 23, 2008, 12:33 PM
The second day pitch wasn't anything different than a typical Dhaka pitch except that occasionally it stayed low.

According to curator, the wicket will start to break from 3rd day afternoon. Now it's extremely important for Bangladesh batsman to occupy the crease as much as possible. Doesn't matter even runs are not coming. Staying on for 10 minutes should count as 1 run as that will force South Africans to bat on a more difficult surface.

And we all know if we can stay on for some time, runs will automatically come. I am looking forward to see BD batsmen scoring at 2 runs per over and score at least another 100 runs. That means another 50 over batting.

Those 50 overs will be the key, by that time wicket will loose its firmness and it will be more difficult to score runs.

I hope the team management will be able to transmit this message effectively to our boys.
that summarizes everything...

jisaan
February 23, 2008, 12:42 PM
Say we DO bat all day tomorrow, or most of it. The fact that there will still be two days of play left shouldn't be too hard as long as we can build up a healthy lead, because if the Africans can't bat on this pitch on the second day, they will pee their undies on the fourth.
:lol::lol::lol:

Tokai
February 23, 2008, 01:15 PM
We need to get 300+ lead, and it does not matter when we get them. Even if we get that in the first session, it will still be enough. And if we get below 250 lead, even if its the fifth day, they will overcome it.

Navarene
February 23, 2008, 01:20 PM
We need another odd 150 by hook or crook to bag the win. I dont care how long our batsmen gonna bat to set a chasing target of 300. The lead anything above 300 is bonus. As long as it is crystal clear after day 2 that a win or lose result is on the making, our game plan should be to set a first inning lead target irrespective to how long our batters should stay at the crease.

Navarene
February 23, 2008, 01:22 PM
We need to get 300+ lead, and it does not matter when we get them. Even if we get that in the first session, it will still be enough. And if we get below 250 lead, even if its the fifth day, they will overcome it.
ekkere amar moner kotha ta koilen!

Miraz
February 23, 2008, 01:31 PM
We need to get 300+ lead, and it does not matter when we get them. Even if we get that in the first session, it will still be enough. And if we get below 250 lead, even if its the fifth day, they will overcome it.

Nope!!

Time matters in Test cricket, particularly in sub-continent wickets.

Chasing 250 on 5th day is lot more difficult than chasing 350 on 3rd day.

Electrequiem
February 23, 2008, 01:31 PM
Putting together 150 runs with 6 wkts in hand does not seem entirely impossible...

But mind you, it is BD we are talking about. At times they are absolutely indomitable, and at times hopelessly fragile...a LOT depends on what side of the bed the boys wake up tomorrow morning.

taklima_naj
February 23, 2008, 02:10 PM
I will just say, good luck to the tigers.
Tiger bahini egiye chlo amra achi umar shathe

Mridul
February 23, 2008, 05:55 PM
Since last year Bangladesh have played 7 test matches and following are the 2nd innings collapse of Bangladeshi batsmen

205/3
254/10

98/1
176/10

269/5
299/10

227/3
254/10

and tomorrow...

125/4
170/10 ???

I hope the batsmen prove me wrong

sadi
February 23, 2008, 06:21 PM
In this game, draw is not an option. So, scoring runs is crucial. However, more we play, it gets harder for SA batsmen since the pitch gets worse. Just like many poster said, anything less than 300 will be hard to defend. If Smith, Kallis or De Villers click, they can take it away from us very quickly.

Nafi
February 23, 2008, 06:28 PM
We need to make sure the game is taken into the 4th day, by the 4th day our spinners will deadliness will be trebled.

Mridul
February 24, 2008, 01:34 AM
Since last year Bangladesh have played 7 test matches and following are the 2nd innings collapse of Bangladeshi batsmen

205/3
254/10

98/1
176/10

269/5
299/10

227/3
254/10

and tomorrow...

125/4
170/10 ???

I hope the batsmen prove me wrong

148/4...then 182/10

I was close...and the batsmen could not prove me wrong once again