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Omio
February 26, 2008, 06:22 PM
[বাংলা]আমাদের ব্যাটসম্যানরা তাদের উন্নতি দেখছেন দিন দিন, জাতির বিবেকের কাছে আমার প্রশ্ন উন্নতি বলতে এখনে কি বোঝাতে চায়?
থুক্কু জাতির বিবেক না Bc সদস্যদের বিবেকের কাছে আমার প্রশ্ন?[/বাংলা]

BD-Shardul
February 26, 2008, 07:29 PM
SSC-HSC level [বাংলা]এ একটা ভাব সম্প্রসারণ পড়েছিলাম, “জাতীয় জীবনে আকাঙক্ষা ও সন্তোষ-এ দুইয়ের মাত্রা বাড়িয়া গেলে বিনাশের কারণ হয়।“

আমাদের সমস্যা এখানে। আমরা যারা ফ্যান, তারা আমাদের সামর্থ্যের কথা চিন্তা না করে আকাশ কুসুম কল্পনা করি- দঃ আফ্রিকার বিরুদ্ধে আমরা টেস্ট জিতুম। আরে বাবা, মুখে মুখে তো রাজার ঝি ও বিয়ে করা যায়। এটা নাটকের প্রথম অঙ্ক। এই অঙ্কে ফ্যানদের আকাঙক্ষা হয় মাত্রাতিরিক্ত আর খেলোয়ারড়া বড়জোড় হয় আশাবাদী, উচ্চাকাঙক্ষী তো নয়ই । নাটকের দ্বিতীয় অঙ্কে বরাবরের মত থাকে পরাজয় ও কিছু পজিটিভ। ফ্যানরা তাদের মাত্রাতিরিক্ত আকাঙক্ষার কারণে স্বভাবতই ফলাফল দেখে বেদনায় দীর্ণ হন। মাত্রাতিরিক্ত আকাঙক্ষার পরিণাম তারা হারে হারে বুঝতে পারেন। আর যেহেতু অন্যপক্ষ, মানে যারা খেলোয়ার, খেলার পুর্বেই উচ্চাভিলাষী থাকেন না, তারা ম্যাচ শেষে খড়কুটোস্বরুপ পজিটিভকে আকাশের চাঁদ হাতে পেয়েছেন মনে করে এতই সন্তুষ্ট ও শিহরিত হন যে তারা ভেবে বসেন যে দিনকে দিন তারা উন্নতি করছেন। তারপর কোচ-অধিনায়ক-নির্বাচক তাদের চিরাচরিত কথা-বার্তার ফুলঝুরির পুনরাবৃত্তি করে হতাশ ফ্যানদের নতুন আশাবাদ শোনানোর মাধ্যমে নাটকের যবনিকাপাত ঘটান।

আকাশে ঈদের চাঁদ উঠলে অবশ্য নাটকের দ্বিতীয় অঙ্কে মাঝে মধ্যে আবার একটু ভিন্ন দৃশ্যেরও অবতারণা হয়ে থাকে। ঐশী প্রদত্ত শক্তিবলে আমারা যখন কদাচিৎ বিজয় লাভ করি, তখন খেলোয়াড়দের সাথে ফ্যানবৃন্দেরও আনন্দ উল্লাস তথা সন্তোষ এতই বৃদ্ধি পায় যে পরপর এর পরের দুই-দিন ম্যাচে আমাদের সোনার ছেলেদের আধোঃগতির চিত্র সুস্পষ্ট ভাবে ফুটে উঠলেও ঈদের চাঁদ এর ঝলকানির রেশ টেনে তা না দেখার ভান করি।

এখন ফ্যান-খেলোয়াড় কেউই যদি নাটকের স্ক্রিপ্ট নতুন করে লেখার চেষ্টা না করেন, উন্নতির কিভাবে আসবে? দুপক্ষই আন্তরিক প্রচেষ্টা চালান, সন্তোষ এবং আকাঙক্ষাকে সীমার ভেতর রাখুন, নতুবা উন্নতির সোনার হরিণ রয়ে যাবে চির অধরা।[/বাংলা]
(too much expectation + too much satisfaction= no improvement)

billah
February 26, 2008, 07:52 PM
Aftab played 165 deliveries to score 68 runs.

I consider this "[বাংলা]উন্নতি[/বাংলা]"

He is trying. If he keeps this up, he will improve more in the next match. He is the most prolific hitter we have. If he can modify his innate instinct to improve his batting, the others can also.

SN is also just one good innings away from making a return to form, I believe.

al Furqaan
February 26, 2008, 08:00 PM
Aftab played 165 deliveries to score 68 runs.

I consider this "[বাংলা]উন্নতি[/বাংলা]"

He is trying. If he keeps this up, he will improve more in the next match. He is the most prolific hitter we have. If he can modify his innate instinct to improve his batting, the others can also.

SN is also just one good innings away from making a return to form, I believe.

i concur

most suprisingly, aftab has hit just 3 boundaries, meaning that 56 of his 68 have come from running between the wicket.

skhondoker
February 26, 2008, 08:20 PM
saw an interview with Jamie Siddons on NTV. He said, he likes the batting of Ash and Aftab. He said that they both are extremely talented and we should see more of them in Bangladesh innings. He said there was a clear improvement in them as far as getting consistent on the 30s and 40s and improvements is on the card.

djnaved
February 26, 2008, 09:48 PM
20,000$ paid coach got local coach's mind...:D

Murad
February 26, 2008, 09:50 PM
20,000$ paid coach got local coach's mind...:D

care to explain, how?

kalpurush
February 27, 2008, 03:15 AM
20,000$ paid coach got local coach's mind...:D
[বাংলা]আমার তো ঠিক বিপরিত টা মনে হছে...[/বাংলা]!:saint:

tiger_army
February 27, 2008, 03:22 AM
20,000$ paid coach got local coach's mind...:D

Mate wats wrong with you, It seems like you are after J Siddons. i saw few of your other posts. r u planning to become Bangladesh Cricket coach?:waiting:

irteja
February 27, 2008, 05:43 AM
20,000$ paid coach got local coach's mind...:D

[বাংলা]ভাই ক্যান মনে হইল ?[/বাংলা]

Tigers_eye
February 27, 2008, 09:42 AM
Some improve and some don't.
Those who work hard they improve. To get from 30s and 40's to 60s and 70's they need to work harder. To get from 2/3 wickets to 5/6 wickets regularly the working harder is a must. Get new tricks in the bag to fool the batsmen.

Tamim: improved a lot. Leaps and bound. (example: see Indian series and NZ series. You will notice the difference)
Ash: improved but not to a satisfactory level.
Aftab: See Tamim. (example: any previous series and SA series)
Shahadat: Do I have to even mention?
Junaid: To early to tell. He already has two fifty in 3 tests. I can't recall any other BD opener (except Tamim) achieving that. still improving.

Not improving:
1) HB. last 16 innings averaging 10+. no fifties.
2) Mash. I feel so sorry for the best bowler of Bangladesh. The workhorse needs a break from cricket.
3) Mushi. single digit scores means not improving.

Team:
1) We couldn't get the opponents all out in first innings. Now we have done that 3 times in a row. Definite improvement.
2) Slip catching is improving.
3) Captaincy: improved by miles. Trust me on this. You don't want to go back to that era again.


Not improving:
We use to score 200+ at home soil regularly. Could not cross that in last couple of innings.

sadi
February 27, 2008, 09:50 AM
Question is if four of our top order batsmen is in improvement list, how come the scores don't improve? Before, we used to score 220, now we score 180. Lower order batting is an issue. Pilot used to score few runs often, Mushi forgot how to bat. But still unless our top order batsmen score big, I see no hope. True, the approach is changing and the result will come eventually. Kintu ar koto opekka korbo?

Rabz
February 27, 2008, 10:05 AM
All this improvements ( and some not), we are still find it hard to score 200 runs, let alone scoring that consistently.

Jaha lau tahai kodu.

lamisa
February 27, 2008, 10:10 AM
hoye jabe Inshallah,Allah bhorosha!
bolen Amin.

auntu
February 27, 2008, 04:23 PM
hoye jabe Inshallah,Allah bhorosha!
bolen Amin.

Hoitei hobe, e chara upai ki? :-/
Amin

djnaved
February 27, 2008, 04:45 PM
Mate wats wrong with you, It seems like you are after J Siddons. i saw few of your other posts. r u planning to become Bangladesh Cricket coach?:waiting:

Ya i should be the cricket coach of bd, first of all, i like siddons coaching technique, but he selects such crappy players. second, he didn't look carefully to our domestic cricket. You know, he observed the practice match before SA tour. He observbed all the three wicketkeepers, but he says to media that i don't know who is pilot. plus, he didn't know much information about rafique, but after taking 4 wickets, siddons is begging rafique not to retire. Siddons also says the because of media, mushy's in out of form. My question is who the hell is he to tell this? If a player is out of form, media should write something about him, that's reality. if mushy is in out of form, he should play domestic cricket for few months.

R apni na jene eishob boltachen, siddonser 1st test match review valo moto poren abar, emon shob kotha bolche jegula ottonto hassokor...apni koyekber pore dekhen... agree hole hon nahole na hon

siddons should take a look at our domestic cricket

djnaved
February 27, 2008, 05:02 PM
also i must say siddons got good cricketing knowledge, but as far as i see he still remains with haba and mushy..and tells to media some unneccecery things,then what would i say?:-|

auntu
February 27, 2008, 05:30 PM
sobor e mewar laddu mile...

Fazal
February 27, 2008, 05:33 PM
Kintu Aunty,

Dehlli ka laddu shohojey mele na... Kosto korey Delhi jete hoi.

auntu
February 27, 2008, 06:19 PM
Kintu Aunty,

Dehlli ka laddu shohojey mele na... Kosto korey Delhi jete hoi.

kintu koto shohoje gender change kora jai:-|

Fazal
February 27, 2008, 06:24 PM
kintu koto shohoje gender change kora jai:-|

ohhh thukku Auntu...... typo.:D

SS
February 27, 2008, 10:35 PM
Improvement how...when we last played five days of domestic cricket. Most of longer version games last three to four days max. We really need to create academy, A team, and national team and play several matches (test like matches not picnic cricket).

tiger_army
February 28, 2008, 03:08 AM
siddons should take a look at our domestic cricket

Well i watched his interview to NTV in Youtube.. He was telling tht he is been here for few monthes and already they are playing two big series. He also mentioned He havent got enough chance to look at the domestic cricket. Hereally wants to have close look of it, he will analyze and pick few players from there which will be a back up of current natonal team. i think then he will have idea about our cricket player resource. And from there he will make these changes, what we are screaming now.Also He knew that our domestic league is not a strong league at all. we fan have to remember that as well. It is very much true that our domestic league is lack of quality players specially lack of quality fast bowlers.I wonder if anyone can bowl around 150 km/h...So he wants to make a plan to solve these problem. Anyway i think he is very much straight forward so far....He is not making things up or hiding anything like the past coaches...I think we shud wait more times before criticise his work or his speech...

tiger_army
February 28, 2008, 03:23 AM
also i must say siddons got good cricketing knowledge, but as far as i see he still remains with haba and mushy..and tells to media some unneccecery things,then what would i say?:-|

Yes and that is why he does not want to pick up Mr Abul instead of Mushy and Mr Karim instead of Haba....He repeatedly said that he havent got enogh time to have a look our cricketers outside of the current national team and he doesnt want to act like a blind and pick up some one in their place.... He has a very simple formula. The current National Team contains the best cricketers of the country. When he came here this team was presented to him. so why blame him, blame our selectors. the primary roll of a coach is not team selection but to improve players techniques and cricket structures. Our team is doing good so far. I think our stupid media(as always) shudnt ask him any question abt team selection..

auntu
February 28, 2008, 04:37 AM
djnave should b happy haba is not in d team anymore. JS is a very chokon buddhiman person...

nsd3
February 28, 2008, 05:23 AM
20,000$ paid coach got local coach's mind...:D
You've answered one other question than the one which was asked by many in this thread: What did you mean by the above comment of yours?