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hoodlum
March 4, 2008, 01:45 AM
14-Member Bangladesh Team Has Been Announced.Nazim,Dhiman,Rakib & Rubel In..Aftab,Rajin,Mushfiq,Bashar,Rafiq,Sajid Out.

1.Ashraful (C)
2.Tamim
3.Zunayed
4.Nafis
5.Sakib
6.Rakib
7.Nazim
8.Dhiman (WK)
9.Razzak
10.Rubel
11.Mashrafe
12.Shahadat
13.Rasel
14.Farhad

Source: RTV

Sohel
March 4, 2008, 01:49 AM
I hope the technically superior Nirala (Rokibul) gets the nod over the streaky Nazimuddin instead of Aftab in the final XI. I won't be surprised if he does, given Coach Siddons' attitude when it comes to poor, Tushar-esque footwork.

This would be my final XII.

1. Tamim
2. BiZu
3. Abir
4. Ash (C)
5. Nirala
6. Moyna (VC)
7. Farhad
8. Dhiman (WK)
9. Razzak
10. Rajib
11. Rasel

12th man: MaMu (maybe this damage to his ego will resurrect the Tigerheart) !

kalpurush
March 4, 2008, 02:01 AM
I hope the technically superior Nirala (Rokibul) gets the nod over the streaky, Tushr-esque Nazimuddin instead of Aftab in the final XI. I won't be surprised if he does, given Coach Siddons' attitude when it comes to poor, Tushar-esque footwork.

This would be my final XII.

1. Tamim
2. BiZu
3. Abir
4. Ash (C)
5. Nirala
6. Moyna (VC)
7. Farhad
8. Dhiman (WK)
9. Razzak
10. Rajib
11. Rasel

12th man: MaMu (maybe this damage to his ego will resurrect the Tigerheart) !
[বাংলা]একি! আমার পেটের কথা সোহেল ভাই জানলো কেমনে?!!;):D[/বাংলা]

MarufH
March 4, 2008, 02:07 AM
I hope the technically superior Nirala (Rokibul) gets the nod over the streaky Nazimuddin instead of Aftab in the final XI. I won't be surprised if he does, given Coach Siddons' attitude when it comes to poor, Tushar-esque footwork.

This would be my final XII.

1. Tamim
2. BiZu
3. Abir
4. Ash (C)
5. Nirala
6. Moyna (VC)
7. Farhad
8. Dhiman (WK)
9. Razzak
10. Rajib
11. Rasel

12th man: MaMu (maybe this damage to his ego will resurrect the Tigerheart) !


looks very strong Odi team.. perhaps the best.

MarufH
March 4, 2008, 02:09 AM
14-Member Bangladesh Team Has Been Announced.Nazim,Dhiman,Rakib & Rubel In..Aftab,Rajin,Mushfiq,Bashar,Rafiq,Sajid Out.

1.Ashraful (C)
2.Tamim
3.Zunayed
4.Nafis
5.Sakib
6.Rakib
7.Nazim
8.Dhiman (WK)
9.Razzak
10.Rubel
11.Mashrafe
12.Shahadat
13.Rasel
14.Farhad

Source: RTV

Suhel bhai... Rubel shomporke apnar motamot ki? can u please shed some light on yet another left armer?


Or in that matter anyone else has much ideas about him?

crickwizard
March 4, 2008, 02:09 AM
does anyone know if Aftab was left out due to his injury or his performance?

Antora
March 4, 2008, 02:13 AM
Not a bad selection.
Can some one please shed some light on this rakib :-|

hoodlum
March 4, 2008, 02:14 AM
does anyone know if Aftab was left out due to his injury or his performance?

due to his injury

hoodlum
March 4, 2008, 02:17 AM
Not a bad selection.
Can some one please shed some light on this rakib :-|

rakib is technically a solid batsman...he played well in the warm-up match against south africa..lets hope he does well in the odis

Gowza
March 4, 2008, 02:20 AM
i'm happy with this selection, will be interesting to see how some of the new players go.

Miraz
March 4, 2008, 02:20 AM
Mohammad Rafique interview is published

“Playing for Bangladesh is the best thing happened to my life” : An interview with Mohammad Rafique (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=25806)

মোহাম্মদ রফিকের সাক্ষাৎকার (বাংলায়) (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=25807)

Sohel
March 4, 2008, 02:25 AM
Suhel bhai... Rubel shomporke apnar motamot ki? can u please shed some light on yet another left armer?


Or in that matter anyone else has much ideas about him?

We have too many SLAs in the kitchen bro, including Razzak, IMHO one of the best in the shorter versions of International cricket. Moyna is also pretty much essential to our ODI sides at this point on account of his bowling economy and unclean, but often (comparatively) effective batting giving us 15-20 runs.

So, I'd rather have the consistently improving player like Farhad provide the much needed variety in our attack than go with another SLA. Farhad is also a much cleaner batsman technically with significantly greater ability to play strokes. Rubel certainly has certainly displayed better temperament with bat at the domestic level, but Farhad too plays more sensibly in the NCL.

I've seen a lot of Rubel live in the NCL this year and wasn't that impressed despite the impressive numbers he posted. He's a scrappy player who depends on other people's mistakes for his success. I like Abul Bashar better when it comes to this type of useful player.

Unless Moyna fails miserably or GOD forbid, gets injured, I don't see how Rubel can get into the final XI.

wrong `un
March 4, 2008, 02:30 AM
Rafique seems quite impressed by Mosharaf's ability as a spinner and i guess he knows more about spin bowling than anyone here at BC.

Sohel
March 4, 2008, 02:32 AM
Rafique seems quite impressed by Mosharaf's ability as a spinner and i guess he knows more about spin bowling than anyone here at BC.

Very true.

BANFAN
March 4, 2008, 02:54 AM
I think this should be the final 11

1.Ashraful (C)
2.Tamim
3.Zunayed
4.Nafis
5.Sakib
6.Nazim
7.Dhiman (WK)
8.Razzak
9.Mashrafe
10.Shahadat
11.Farhad

---------------

12. Rasel

Gowza
March 4, 2008, 02:59 AM
my final XI would probably be like this:

1. tamim
2. junaid
3. SN
4. ashraful
5. raqibul/nazimuddin
6. shakib
7. reza
8. dhiman
9. razzak
10. shahadat
11. rasel

12th man: mortaza/rubel (i don't see him being picked ahead of shakib or reza atm)

tiger_army
March 4, 2008, 03:58 AM
I prefer Rasel instead of sahadat in ODI. sahadat is very xpenssive in ODI

abu2abu
March 4, 2008, 04:04 AM
Well at least we may finally get the opportunity to see how nazimuddin fares in a full 50 over game. I suspect he's rubbish...

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/story/340969.html

bdpride04
March 4, 2008, 04:04 AM
i think ash should give up his captancy to sakib, to me ask is in under pressure and thatz why he couldn't do well and seems like sakib WILL be the next captain....... skipping all the warm up matches and doing good as well

Nabil-Jpn
March 4, 2008, 04:05 AM
my XI :
1. tamim
2. junaid
3. SN
4. ashraful
5. nazimuddin
6. shakib
7. dhiman
8.Rubel
9. razzak
10.Mashrafe
11. rasel

Gowza
March 4, 2008, 04:08 AM
I prefer Rasel instead of sahadat in ODI. sahadat is very xpenssive in ODI

i think it's a toss up between mash and shahadat for the 2nd pacer spot (assuming they don't go with 3 specialist pacers), no doubt rasel should be in the ODI team, he's the best new ball bowler Bangladesh has. shahadat is most dangerous with an old ball and in ODIs with the new rule of changing the ball in the 34th(?) over there is no guarantee the ball will reverse. neither of mash or shahadat have taken many one-day wickets in their most recent ODIs. the reason i'd put shahadat in over mash is simply because he should be high on confidence from his performance in the test series whereas mash would be low on confidence.

Sohel
March 4, 2008, 04:13 AM
Leaving Rasel out of our ODI squad is dumb, almost verging on the criminally moronic.

Rajib has been consistently accurate of late while MaMu has been an eyesore with his accuracy save a few deliveries here and there.

In a fair world which the world of BCB isn't, it should be a no brainer: Rasel and Rajib should spearhead our seam attack, supported by Razzak, Farhad, Moyna and Ash if necessary.

abu2abu
March 4, 2008, 04:37 AM
[QUOTE=Sohel NR;638503]Leaving Rasel out our ODI squad is dumb, almost verging on the criminally moronic.
[QUOTE]

I thought rasel was in the squad?..

Sohel
March 4, 2008, 04:39 AM
I thought rasel was in the squad?..

He is, I was referring to something else ... :)

tiger_army
March 4, 2008, 04:45 AM
We must pick Rasel in ODI bcoz he is in top form now, if our dumb selecters drop him from final XI he will be another lost case.....To our selecters plz pick him, dont make him another Rafiq

bdchamp20
March 4, 2008, 05:16 AM
Although I am disappointed not to see players like Kapali and Riyad in the squad I think this is by far the best squad named by this bunch of selectors, my final XI:
SHAHRIAR
JUNAID
RAQUIBUL
ASHRAFUL
SHAKIB
DHIMAN(WK)
MOSHAROF
RAZZAK
MASHRAFE
SHAHADAT
RASEL

12TH MAN: TAMIM

man, although I am feeling great that the selectors have picked Dhiman, I am kinda sad for Mushy..I hope he comes back stronger than ever

roaring tigerz
March 4, 2008, 05:26 AM
About time Ashraful starts coming in at number 3. Siddons talked about taking responsibility and sent Ash at one down during the ODIs in New Zealand. I hope that policy continues.

Aftab is an integral part of the team. His absence would be a blow to the team, but will give us a chance to try out a new middle order batsmen. The number 5-6 position has for long been our archilles heel. Look forward to Raqib/Nazim step up and play a couple of good knocks. Dhiman's inclusion should give our late order some much needed firepower.
I think its a no brainer that Shahadat should start playing in the ODIs. Rasel has for long been our best ODI pace bowler, and is a definite starter. Razzak's inclusion is also guaranteed. That leaves the 4th bowler slot open. Rubel or Farhad? Throw Mashrafee into the mix, and its a pretty difficult decision. Haven't seen Rubel, but will go with Farhad due to his proven ability and recent resurgence as a bowler. Mashrafe needs a rest and a gentle reminder to get his act together. Leaving him out of a couple of ODis might send him the right message.My team for 1st ODI would be:

Tamim
Zuaned
Ashraful
Nafees
Rakib
Sakib
Dhiman
Farhad
Razzak
Shahadat
Rasel

Aritro
March 4, 2008, 05:52 AM
No complaints about any of those selections. Mushfiq is my favourite player, and I think quite a few people will be forced to eat significant amounts of humble pie when he clicks into gear, whenever that may be, but his recent performances have been embarrassing and he deserved to be dropped. Delighted to see that Javed Omar continues to be kept in exile, and that sanity has prevailed in the selection of Dhiman over Pilot.

Leaving Rasel out of our ODI squad is dumb, almost verging on the criminally moronic.

Rajib has been consistently accurate of late while MaMu has been an eyesore with his accuracy save a few deliveries here and there.

In a fair world which the world of BCB isn't, it should be a no brainer: Rasel and Rajib should spearhead our seam attack, supported by Razzak, Farhad, Moyna and Ash if necessary.

All correct.

As far as I'm concerned, after having completely re-modelled his action and sacrificed no small amount of pace, Rajib should now be expected to be consistently accurate (which he has been, as you said).

It's time to stop typecasting him as a test specialist.

It's also time to give Mortaza a well earned kick up the arse.

abu2abu
March 4, 2008, 05:59 AM
Some good observations by aritro. The only small qualm I have is with mosharraff. I think Mahmudullah might have been a better pick. Still, I wish him well...

Sohel
March 4, 2008, 06:10 AM
Some good observations by aritro. The only small qualm I have is with mosharraff. I think Mahmudullah might have been a better pick. Still, I wish him well...

Dude, Riyad wasn't considered good enough bowl in Dhaka's FC and List A matches on several key occasions for a reason. Rubel is a much better bowler and has better numbers with the bat also.

Looks aren't everything ... ;)

Aritro
March 4, 2008, 06:11 AM
Really?

He looked OK in the Twenty20 rubbish

abu2abu
March 4, 2008, 06:19 AM
Dude, Riyad wasn't considered good enough bowl in Dhaka's List A matches for a reason. Rubel is a much better bowler and has better numbers with the bat also.

Looks aren't everything ... ;)

I said talha was quite good looking, I only meant that in an objective way, of course I prefer girls.

As for mahmudullah, apparently he was considered:

"[Rafiqul Alam said] We also considered Mahmudullah Riyad as an allrounder but Mosharraf Hossain got in through the sheer weight of his performance in the domestic, A Team and Academy matches."

Sohel
March 4, 2008, 06:24 AM
I said talha was quite good looking, I only meant that in an objective way, of course I prefer girls.

As for mahmudullah, apparently he was considered:

"[Rafiqul Alam said] We also considered Mahmudullah Riyad as an allrounder but Mosharraf Hossain got in through the sheer weight of his performance in the domestic, A Team and Academy matches."

Exactly (but what A-Team and Academy matches, Tiger mama continues to show everyone how to put his foot in his mouth) ? !

Just pulling your leg on the looks issue bro, NOI ... :)

abu2abu
March 4, 2008, 06:30 AM
Exactly (but what A-Team and Academy matches, Tiger mama continues to show everyone how to put his foot in his mouth) ? !

Just pulling your leg on the looks issue bro, NOI ... :)

I know you were kidding dude. I agree with you, Rubel has apparently performed very well in domestic cricket. But like aritro, i just thought riyad looked good in the T20...

Sohel
March 4, 2008, 06:34 AM
I know you were kidding dude. I agree with you, Rubel has apparently performed very well in domestic cricket. But like aritro, i just thought riyad looked good in the T20...

He IS good looking BTW ... not a gayish statement hopefully !

abu2abu
March 4, 2008, 06:47 AM
He IS good looking BTW ... not a gayish statement hopefully !

His face probably didn't look so pretty when Tamim punched him in an NCL match earlier this season! Wouldn't it be funny if the both of them played together for BD soon...

Sohel
March 4, 2008, 06:49 AM
His face probably didn't look so pretty when Tamim punched him in an NCL match earlier this season! Wouldn't it be funny if the both of them played together for BD soon...

Tamim punched Talha, I was takling about Riyad.

Talha and Tamim should play for BD soon IMHO. I wanted Dollar or Talha instead of Sajid in the team.

fwullah
March 4, 2008, 06:54 AM
I thought Mushfique was the next best wicket-keeper after Pilot? Now Dhiman suddenly comes in as Mushfique is not performing, irrespective of the fact that Dhiman is performing in the domestic cricket?

Omio
March 4, 2008, 07:00 AM
I have a high hope for Nazim, If he can score 20+, he will able to make it a big innings.

nsd3
March 4, 2008, 08:49 AM
Tamim, Zunaed, SN, Ashraful, Nazim, Shakib, Farhad, Dhiman, Razzak, Mashrafi, Rasel.

12th Man: Rajib.

Mosharraf, Roqibul could be tested in later ODIs.

Ehsan
March 4, 2008, 08:52 AM
Whatever the team may be, I would like to rest Masri from the ODI series. He needs to go back and find himself.

I am not in the favour of too many changes, I pretty much agree with the nsd3's team except that Masri has to go.

bulbul_fan
March 4, 2008, 08:57 AM
Although I am disappointed not to see players like Kapali and Riyad in the squad I think this is by far the best squad named by this bunch of selectors, my final XI:
SHAHRIAR
JUNAID
RAQUIBUL
ASHRAFUL
SHAKIB
DHIMAN(WK)
MOSHAROF
RAZZAK
MASHRAFE
SHAHADAT
RASEL

12TH MAN: TAMIM

man, although I am feeling great that the selectors have picked Dhiman, I am kinda sad for Mushy..I hope he comes back stronger than ever


this is the best team

sadi
March 4, 2008, 09:17 AM
Quite happy with the selection this time. I want Raqibul and Rubel to be in the mix but not play just yet. Let them enjoy being in the squad and learn as much as possible. I have to agree with most of the members here about Mash. He needs some time off.

So here is my XI:

Tamim, Zunaed, Ash, Nafees, Nazim, Sakib, Forhad, Dhiman, Razzak, Shahadat, Rasel.

zainab
March 4, 2008, 09:38 AM
I cannot imagine an ODI team without Aftab. Anyhow, his health is more important. Hoe that he will be fit for the Ireland ODIS. BD has to win this series.

Tigers_eye
March 4, 2008, 09:44 AM
I am surprized not to see, Riyad. That catch miss in the practice match costed his position? I can't believe it. Siddons was critical on him I read somewhere. I think we need to keep him in the mix cause he can bat as well.

Mash needs to be in. And his quota (7/8 overs) needs to be fulfilled before 40 overs. Rasel's 10 in the trot, Shahadat opening and closing.

So I would have picked,
1. Tamim
2. Zunaid
3. SN
4. Ash
5. Nazimuddin
6. Shakib
7. Dhiman
8. Abdur Razzak
9. Mash
10. Shahadat
11. Rasel

Ash needs as much bowling options as he can get.

MarufH
March 4, 2008, 09:45 AM
We have too many SLAs in the kitchen bro, including Razzak, IMHO one of the best in the shorter versions of International cricket. Moyna is also pretty much essential to our ODI sides at this point on account of his bowling economy and unclean, but often (comparatively) effective batting giving us 15-20 runs.

So, I'd rather have the consistently improving player like Farhad provide the much needed variety in our attack than go with another SLA. Farhad is also a much cleaner batsman technically with significantly greater ability to play strokes. Rubel certainly has certainly displayed better temperament with bat at the domestic level, but Farhad too plays more sensibly in the NCL.

I've seen a lot of Rubel live in the NCL this year and wasn't that impressed despite the impressive numbers he posted. He's a scrappy player who depends on other people's mistakes for his success. I like Abul Bashar better when it comes to this type of useful player.

Unless Moyna fails miserably or GOD forbid, gets injured, I don't see how Rubel can get into the final XI.


Thank you, I think it has more to do with Rafique's reference than his own ability.

SS
March 4, 2008, 10:27 AM
four uncapped players but how many of them will play. I am foreseeing more heated debate in this thread in three more days. Controversial selection might end all the speculation but I still think non performers should accept their fate or even step out for any personal reasons.

Aritro
March 4, 2008, 10:30 AM
At any rate, I think we ought to keep in mind how uncomfortable the South Africans looked trying to score runs against our spinners during that World Cup match.

I think at some stage we should definitely try playing three of them.

mahbubH
March 4, 2008, 10:34 AM
I think it is too early to bring Rakibul in the national team.. another Shakib?

lamisa
March 4, 2008, 10:34 AM
btw ppl,i m confused about who moyna and mamu are.could u please help me out?:-/

Ishtylish cricketer
March 4, 2008, 10:37 AM
The much talked about Dhiman Ghose is in, we will see what this guy is made up of. Hopefully, he can hold onto catches first and foremost and provide some runs in the lower middle. Heard good things about Rakib as well. Hopefully he will produce the goods with the bat.

sadi
March 4, 2008, 11:23 AM
Mamu is Mashrafee. Moyna is Sakib.

jisaan
March 4, 2008, 11:44 AM
We have too many SLAs in the kitchen bro, including Razzak, IMHO one of the best in the shorter versions of International cricket. Moyna is also pretty much essential to our ODI sides at this point on account of his bowling economy and unclean, but often (comparatively) effective batting giving us 15-20 runs.

So, I'd rather have the consistently improving player like Farhad provide the much needed variety in our attack than go with another SLA. Farhad is also a much cleaner batsman technically with significantly greater ability to play strokes. Rubel certainly has certainly displayed better temperament with bat at the domestic level, but Farhad too plays more sensibly in the NCL.

I've seen a lot of Rubel live in the NCL this year and wasn't that impressed despite the impressive numbers he posted. He's a scrappy player who depends on other people's mistakes for his success. I like Abul Bashar better when it comes to this type of useful player.

Unless Moyna fails miserably or GOD forbid, gets injured, I don't see how Rubel can get into the final XI.

Bowling:
i have seen him playing in the NCL as well. he seems to be bowler who can bowl at a stingy spot continuously. and thus he would compel batsmen to commit mistakes. isn't that a great virtue for any bowler?
my point is whether he would be able to do the same in int'l cricket because that would require concrete confidence on one's own abilities. don't think that would be easy for a debutant. that too agt an opponent who has just trounced bd in a series!

i would rather rely on rafique's admiration for this lad.
Batting:
he has been performing wonderfully with the bat. when some one bats consistently at no.3 for his ncl & pr. league side, that speaks of his ability itself. he has amassed some good numbers agt his name as well. he definitely looks a better bet than razzak.
i would like to send him at no. 7 for bd team.

jisaan
March 4, 2008, 11:49 AM
Tamim punched Talha, I was takling about Riyad.

Talha and Tamim should play for BD soon IMHO. I wanted Dollar or Talha instead of Sajid in the team.

right call. sajid's one-day performance has been less than impressive in ncl

Eshen
March 4, 2008, 12:05 PM
My team -

Tamim
Zunaed
SN
Ashraful
Nazimuddin
Shakib
Farhad
Dhiman
Razzak
Shahadat
Rasel

12th man: Raqibul (I heard he is an excellent fielder)

MaMu and Rubel should watch the series from sideline.

detroitpagla
March 4, 2008, 12:10 PM
really bad idea to bring more young kids into the international level. Four new players? that's bad idea........

jisaan
March 4, 2008, 12:11 PM
i can see a few ppl getting excitet about the inclusion of rakib. i'd go with the opinion that he got it a bit too early. but again, he is the best available option at present. surely, we don't wanna see TUSHAR again. for me, i would've given KAPALI (although i'm not too fond of him of late) another LAST CHANCE!
a few facts about rakib:

1) he's the only bd batsman to score a triple hundred in 1st class matches.
2) pak academy coach Aquib Javed was so impressed with his 'CORRECT BATTING' for bd academy team that he prescibed him for our nat'l team.
3) he was 'boo'ed by fans at fatullah in an u-19 match in the triangular series prior to 2006 u-19 wc. reason? SLOW BATTING!

hence, i would request rakib fans to be a little conservative abt his prospects in ODIs.

SS
March 4, 2008, 12:15 PM
MaMu and Rubel should watch the series from sideline.

Captain and VC are both watching games like us instead of playing.

Rabz
March 4, 2008, 12:16 PM
Too Much Ado Aabout Noting.

We leave some, recruite some new, shuffle the batting order, weave some new hope.

End result?

Another series whitewash.

jisaan
March 4, 2008, 12:27 PM
RUBEL HOSSAIN is climbing the ladder!

the selectors somehow read my mind! Rubel hossain has been selected for the BCB-11 for the warm-u match.
it is an obvious win for this fast-bowling talent over assumed front-runners like dollar & talha.
hope his RAW PACE would earn him lot more recognition in coming days

jisaan
March 4, 2008, 12:30 PM
team for the warm-up odi:

http://www.bangladesherkhela.com/index.php?newsID=5321&pageTitle=details&editionID=288

bulbul_fan
March 4, 2008, 12:45 PM
ya raqibul is slow...may be another mehrab jnr????????????????:(:( I just hate that batsman...............if raqibul is ofmehrabs standard..pls dont let him in the team!

sislam2
March 4, 2008, 12:55 PM
1. Tamim (due to his decent form in ODI against NZ)
2. SN (More experienced and got some runs in test)
3. Ashraful
4. Sakib (batting allrounder)
5. Raqibul/Nazimuddin (At this point anyone will do instead of Aftab)
6. dhiman
7. Reza (third medium pacer and a bolwing allrounder)
8. Rubel (third option for a spinner and a bowling allrounder)
9. Razzak
10. Shahadat/Mortaza
11. Rasel (by far the best with the new ball in ODI for Bangladesh right now)
12. Junaid (don't see why we need three specialist opener, since SN and Tamim are there; Junaid needs more exposure to be considered before both of them)

Now the team have six specialist batsman, and with three medium pacers and two specialist spinner (inluding Sakib whos is batting allrounder) and one newbie (rubel). Also two bowling allrounders who are capable of quick runs at the end.

AsifTheManRahman
March 4, 2008, 12:57 PM
I'm not too comfortable with so many new players in the squad. I hope the playing XI doesn't include too many.

Murad
March 4, 2008, 01:02 PM
hmm too many new players.

i was hoping to see them against ireland not south africa

well now they are selected. so lets hope for the best.

i would have liked to see mahmudullah in the team. he would have been better than rubel. i dont to see any more of left arm spinners

riyad can bowl offspin well. amader bowling e ekta variation add hoto.. but now again our spin bowling will be one-dimentional.

jisaan
March 4, 2008, 01:04 PM
How about this team?

tamim
junaid
shahriar
ashraful
sakib
reza
dhiman
rubel
razzak
shahadat
rasel

Eshen
March 4, 2008, 01:06 PM
His phone finally rang
Mohammad Isam

http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=26214

While the Peninsula Hotel in Chittagong was abuzz yesterday with the announcement of three new Tigers, Rokibul Hassan was getting prepared to attend the Zohr prayers along with some of his National Cricket Academy teammates at the Academy house in Dhanmondi.

His cell phone rang and the news he received was most pleasing to his ears.

The young man, who hails from Jamalpur, is among the three new faces who have been selected in the Bangladesh squad for the forthcoming one-day series against South Africa.

The 21-year-old Rokibul tried to keep himself oblivious to the happenings of Chittagong till that phone call came as he had a feeling that this was his time but still didn't want to expect anything.

"Someone from the cricket board called me and when I heard that I was selected, I was over the moon," said an animated Rokibul later in the evening.

But his call-up was not entirely unexpected. Ever since he smashed a triple century in the National Cricket League in 2006-07, he was earmarked as one for the future.

He was drafted into the National Cricket Academy this year where his work ethic was received with approval. The ride for this lad from the backwaters of Bangladesh cricket has now met a great destination.

"I began from school cricket and then during those days, I used to play district leagues around Jamalpur. Then I was selected for the regional under-17s from where I was picked for the under-19 World Cup team in 2006," informed Rokibul, known for his big smile.

"Nobody ever told me that I would play for Bangladesh until I played that three-day warm-up against South Africa (in Fatullah). Since then, I have heard that I was close to get a call.

"All I wanted to do since then was working harder on my game," said Rokibul.

Murad
March 4, 2008, 01:20 PM
http://www.thedailystar.net/photos/2008-03-05__sports01.jpg
Rubel ====Dhiman ==== Raqibul

Dhiman looking cute :)

BANFAN
March 4, 2008, 01:20 PM
i think ash should give up his captancy to sakib, to me ask is in under pressure and thatz why he couldn't do well and seems like sakib WILL be the next captain....... skipping all the warm up matches and doing good as well

I hope he becomes the captain some day. But for that he has to perform much much better than what he has done so far. On his recent performances, I am scared how long he will be in the team, let alone being captain.

KnightBD
March 4, 2008, 01:57 PM
I am happy with the ODI team. BD needs to win at least one game! I don't remember any win with ASH as captain (did we?). I assume his morale inside is down. That might be reason for his bad performances too. He is thinking too much about team and forgetting about himself. Hope they will be able to stop the recent loosing streak !!! :fanflag:

shovon13
March 4, 2008, 02:01 PM
i believe we are one or two spots away from finalizing a team for the world cup in 2011. we need a find a core of 14 players for the tournament at home. this is what the coach talked about, stating the value of giving enough experience to these young players. the national cricket league and international cricket are levels apart, which is why one needs at least a year to adjust to such a competitive arena.

seeing how experience is extremely valuable for our team, we are indeed pretty close to a core team that we can count to come good with necessary playing time. the openers look set in tamim and junaed. I have seen their batting in nz series and in the two tests against south africa. while they are lacking in temparament, they have both played meritorious innings against top teams to prove their worth. i believe ashraful is the future cornerstone of our batting. i understand we expected him to be there about two years ago, that said we cannot give up on such a huge investment. nafees is another one of those that can bring solidity to our batting order. his run of poor form seems to be over, which is really good news. as long as our batting is concerned, aftab has to be the fifth batsman - except he just got injured.

the rest of the positions are all up in the air, including all the spots for our bowlers. razzak is the most experienced spinner we have - and likely to retain his spot until the world cup unless we come up on a leggie or an offie who is better than him. I would highly recommend against another slow left armer. Rasel is probably the best choice for a pacer for the odi team, unless sajedul upstages him. We probably would stick with the four we have in mashrafe, shahadat, rasel, and sajedul for the world cup. I dont see rubel or talha getting into this squad barring any injuries.

mushfiq or dhiman? this series will answer a lot of questions. whoever it is, we need to give him two years of international experience before the world cup so that he is not lacking in playing time against the world's bests.

bdpride04
March 4, 2008, 03:05 PM
I hope he becomes the captain some day. But for that he has to perform much much better than what he has done so far. On his recent performances, I am scared how long he will be in the team, let alone being captain.

have you seen that three day warm up match he skipped he batted very good and when JS was trainning bd players and made 3 teams and in one of them he was captain i believe he beat ash's team. lets see what he does in that warm up match, seems like he does well when he is the captain

Foozy
March 4, 2008, 03:23 PM
About time Ashraful starts coming in at number 3. Siddons talked about taking responsibility and sent Ash at one down during the ODIs in New Zealand. I hope that policy continues.


I actually don't want Ash to come in at 3! At an earlier time, I would have said the exact same thing, but rite now since SN is in form and doing well at no.3, I think its good that Ash is coming in at no.4. He himself feels more secure there, and well one can always argue that SN might also be considered for the post of "our best batsman":). I think the top 4 slots are pretty secure in bd cricket. These players just need a little bit more time, but are pretty well rooted in there. I'm very very happy about that.
So my team would be the same as yours, except the Nafees and Ash part...

Tamim
BigZ
Nafees
Ashraful
Rakib/Nazimuddin
Sakib
Dhiman
Farhad
Razzak
Shahadat
Rasel

.... and ofcourse I agree just like the majority here that MR Mashrafee has earned himself a break, whilst Shahadat is perfectly capable of bowling non expensive overs. He surely has improved by miles from his old self

Lastly I would like to congratulate the selectors this time on getting things pretty good this time around :)

Fazal
March 4, 2008, 03:27 PM
As long as Farhad is playing, I am happy. I hope they stick with him for 3 ODI.

I am waiting to see at the end of the series, who have rge highest average? Razzak, Farhad or Shahadat?

DJ Sahastra
March 4, 2008, 04:23 PM
What? No Alok? :-p

HereWeGo
March 4, 2008, 05:01 PM
If only we could have had aftab in the team than we may have had a most positive Bangladesh ODI 11 ever.

I mean beside Shakib all hte other batsmen are positive and Attacking. Even Shakib is an attacking batsmen however he lacks in ability to play quality PACE bowling.

Watever the combination we will be playing with almost 8 genuine batsmen.

Ashraful, Aftab, Nazim, Dhiman and Farhad can make a very attacking middle order. It than puts less pressure on the shoulders of Ashraful and Aftab. I really believe that if we can stick with this team than we will produce constant good results in ODIs in 2 years time.

Shahriar Nafees and Junaid siddiqui (either or) can take the role of anchorman if necessary, the best thing is that they both are also capable of scoring at abrisk pace if situation demands . Unlike JO or HaBa they can shift gears.

The only bad part is we hardly have any matches this year.
But ireland will now get a huge thrashing from us.

One World
March 4, 2008, 09:50 PM
I think there is a big conspiracy going on since 2004 not to play senior, experienced, dependable players in Test. For ODI's I still see similar trend taking place. Is it because the selectors themselves were players and did not get much opportunity to shine in the international level? Are they jealous to their co-players who are still in form and full of fuel? I believe not. Then what authority put them in a position to make suicidal decisions one after the other.

Why ruining the future crop before harvesting season is over? It may sound senile right now as the performance of the team yet to be tested but even if these four guys help to notch up a ODI win how much it will negotiate BD's chronic depleting cricket structure.

Everybody needs to seriously think about the point made by chief selector about choosing the youth and neglecting the elderly matured players. He was at least able to put me in dwindle when he used the exact opposite logic about not choosing Rajin (I am not patronizing Rajin's inclusion though).

This is getting ridiculous day by day. When a top team's captain mentions about the under aged team's incapability to handle a gentleman's game we are putting the whole future into the hands of a group of youth who may bear the prospect, talent and enthusiasm of a teen but about to fail miserably due to lack of sensibility, responsibility and tenacity of a man.

If we go back to Tiger's Eyes NCL Statistical Analysis thread it becomes clear that there is a sharper background story of choosing all these players which was honestly and bravely echoed by our legendary spinner.

ialbd
March 4, 2008, 10:03 PM
shahadat vs rasel..... its hard to pick.....

farhad genuinely deserves to play all 3 ODIs.....

wiseshah
March 4, 2008, 10:32 PM
finally our selectors have done a great job. no unpleasant surprise this time. excellent team selection and timely.

now i just wish, they give mashrafe rest in the first match. so my team will be

Junaed
Shahriar nafees
ashraful
sakib
nazimuddin
Dhiman
farhad reza
mosharraf rubel
razzaq
shahadat
rasel

12th man: rakibul

tamim and mashrafe should be rested for the 1st match.

Eshen
March 4, 2008, 11:10 PM
I just realized this is the first time we have selected a team (not counting the twenty20 team) without any ICC trophy era player (JO manged to sneak up into the ODI team on last few occasions). Glad to see we have finally left that nostalgia behind.

Also, after a long time, we have picked an over 26 years old newbie (Mosharraf Hossain) for the national team. According to official ages (although probably not according to unofficial ages), Mosharraf is now the murubbi in the ODI team :)

djnaved
March 4, 2008, 11:17 PM
SN
Tamim
Ashraful
Nazimuddin
Sakib
Farhad
Dhiman
Rajjak
Mosharrof
Rasel
Shahdat

I would give rest mashrafee and Junayed for the first odi.. let's see how this team can perform... we should depend on bowling and fielding side, enough with batting

Megh
March 5, 2008, 02:16 AM
I hope the technically superior Nirala (Rokibul) gets the nod over the streaky Nazimuddin instead of Aftab in the final XI. I won't be surprised if he does, given Coach Siddons' attitude when it comes to poor, Tushar-esque footwork.

This would be my final XII.

1. Tamim
2. BiZu
3. Abir
4. Ash (C)
5. Nirala
6. Moyna (VC)
7. Farhad
8. Dhiman (WK)
9. Razzak
10. Rajib
11. Rasel

12th man: MaMu (maybe this damage to his ego will resurrect the Tigerheart) !

i like this team. but my team would be bit different(Cause, BCB not gonna go with this team. SELECTOR IDIOTS)

My team would be:

1. Tamim
2. Zuni/Nazz(Nazz could get 1 match. Deserves another chance.)
3. Shahriar
4. Ash
5. Rocky(Rokibul)
6. Saki
7. Dhiman(So happy to see him.)
8. Mash(Coz, he is the VC. So, won't be outta team.Give him another chance in 1st ODI.If failed then Farhad is ON.)/Farhad
9. Razz
10.Shahdat
11.Rasel

*** Sorry for AFTAB. we are gonna miss him in ODIs. wish he was in 14 man squad and if he felt okey then he could get one match. I thought he is gonna be rested for 5 days. Has he injured really really bad? Is it that serious? i knew he has 2 stitches.

Megh
March 5, 2008, 02:22 AM
SN
Tamim
Ashraful
Nazimuddin
Sakib
Farhad
Dhiman
Rajjak
Mosharrof
Rasel
Shahdat

I would give rest mashrafee and Junayed for the first odi.. let's see how this team can perform... we should depend on bowling and fielding side, enough with batting

i think now we have a fair chance to make a perfect bowling combination with 3 fast/mid-fast bowlers. i think Farhad is better choice than Mosharraf. he could get a chance if razzak failed in 1st 2 ODIs. and SN shouldn't be openning the innings. coz, he is getting runs in no.3 position. otherwise your team is Good.

Fortuner
March 5, 2008, 03:08 AM
i wonder why some ppl dnt want Zunaed in the 1st odi team.come on guys,we need him in the opening slot along with tamim.some of u r talking about takin nazim,i m afraid of that as he is not experienced enough for opening.i mean comapred to zunaed who has more confidence and experience n main thing zunaed is not in thta bad form either.

so,this is my team

Zunaed
Tamim
Shahriar Nafees
Ashraful
Rokibul (we shld see him live now, we saw nazim uddin and we saw hw he is,pathetic.contd failure in the t20)
Shakib
Dhiman
Razzak
Mosharraf
Shahadat
Rasel

Inshallah we will win 1 odi atleast...lets pray and hope our boys outplay the southafricans in evry department!!!

irteja
March 6, 2008, 11:00 AM
MY TEAM

Tamim Iqbal (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56194.html)
Junaid Siddique (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/55946.html)
Shahriar Nafees (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56153.html)
Mohammad Ashraful (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/55988.html) (c)
Shakib Al Hasan (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56143.html)
Nazimuddin (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56059.html)
Dhiman Ghosh (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56208.html) (wk)
Mashrafe Mortaza (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56007.html) (vc)
Abdur Razzak (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56283.html)
Shahadat Hossain (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56149.html)
Syed Rasel (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56160.html)

Spitfire_x86
March 6, 2008, 12:37 PM
Tamim
Junaed
Ashraful
SN
Nazim
Sakib
Dhiman
Farhad / Rubel
Razzak
Rasel
Shahadat

Tigers_eye
March 6, 2008, 12:51 PM
i wonder why some ppl dnt want Zunaed in the 1st odi team.come on guys,we need him in the opening slot along with tamim.some of u r talking about takin nazim,i m afraid of that as he is not experienced enough for opening.i mean comapred to zunaed who has more confidence and experience n main thing zunaed is not in thta bad form either.

so,this is my team

Zunaed
Tamim
Shahriar Nafees
Ashraful
Rokibul (we shld see him live now, we saw nazim uddin and we saw hw he is,pathetic.contd failure in the t20)
Shakib
Dhiman
Razzak
Mosharraf
Shahadat
Rasel

Inshallah we will win 1 odi atleast...lets pray and hope our boys outplay the southafricans in evry department!!!
I have no issue with your team but the comments you made on Nazim. Do you khow his average? Do you know Ash's average in T20? What about Tamim's?

To justify ones inclusion it is not good to dish out another without knowing the facts.

Except Aftab who didn't have "Contd failure" in t20 with the bat?

bdchamp20
March 6, 2008, 01:11 PM
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHO PERFORMS BETTER IN THE PRACTICE MATCH, Roquib or Nazim(although I'm pretty sure it'll be Roquib) and then I'll make a final XI

jisaan
March 6, 2008, 01:38 PM
nazim surely was PATHETIC IN T20

i call t20 as James Bond cricket! where every batsman has the license to go for kill! who would have the time to worry abt his average, total or opponent... but
the way nazim got out in all the matches, it'd be very difficult to retain any support for this otherwise talented guy

Tigers_eye
March 6, 2008, 01:51 PM
nazim surely was PATHETIC IN T20
...
Then Ash, Rahim, tamim, Alok all were pathetic to the power 3.

Murad
March 6, 2008, 01:53 PM
nazim surely was PATHETIC IN T20

i call t20 as James Bond cricket! where every batsman has the license to go for kill! who would have the time to worry abt his average, total or opponent... but
the way nazim got out in all the matches, it'd be very difficult to retain any support for this otherwise talented guy

But the pathetic still holds the highest score by a Bangladeshi in 20/20 cricket. That was against the Asif, Shoaib and co.

jisaan
March 6, 2008, 01:56 PM
I have no issue with your team but the comments you made on Nazim. Do you khow his average? Do you know Ash's average in T20? What about Tamim's?

To justify ones inclusion it is not good to dish out another without knowing the facts.

Except Aftab who didn't have "Contd failure" in t20 with the bat?
ash had re-written the record for fastest 50 in t20 matches (afterwards it went to yuvraj, we all know). still he holds the record for the 2nd fastest 50 (along with yuvraj)
he engineered that fantastic win agt w.indies.
as far as i understand, t20 is more abt winning matches by hook or by crook.
now only you'd know how'd you rate ash in t20?

jisaan
March 6, 2008, 02:05 PM
Then Ash, Rahim, tamim, Alok all were pathetic to the power 3.

ash was at his devastating best in the earlier matches. He destroyed the west indians. took the like of s. pollock to sword. if that means PATHETIC.... well, the meaning might have changed till i last knew it.

hats off to you for rectifying my error!!!

al Furqaan
March 6, 2008, 02:05 PM
MY TEAM

Tamim Iqbal (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56194.html)
Junaid Siddique (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/55946.html)
Shahriar Nafees (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56153.html)
Mohammad Ashraful (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/55988.html) (c)
Shakib Al Hasan (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56143.html)
Nazimuddin (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56059.html)
Dhiman Ghosh (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56208.html) (wk)
Mashrafe Mortaza (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56007.html) (vc)
Abdur Razzak (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56283.html)
Shahadat Hossain (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56149.html)
Syed Rasel (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/bdeshvrsa/content/player/56160.html)

fantastic team, but i'd take nazim out and put in nirala.

Tigers_eye
March 6, 2008, 02:06 PM
ash had re-written the record for fastest 50 in t20 matches (afterwards it went to yuvraj, we all know). still he holds the record for the 2nd fastest 50 (along with yuvraj)
he engineered that fantastic win agt w.indies.
as far as i understand, t20 is more abt winning matches by hook or by crook.
now only you'd know how'd you rate ash in t20?
As far as continued failure is concerned (in you guys rating meter) I rate him pathetic to the power three.

See post #90.

jisaan
March 6, 2008, 02:09 PM
But the pathetic still holds the highest score by a Bangladeshi in 20/20 cricket. That was against the Asif, Shoaib and co.

i would rather take a match-winning 30/40/50 rather than have an 80-odd from an individual and still end up in the losing side

hoodlum
March 6, 2008, 02:21 PM
The way ash plays in T20...it can be threatening for any bowlers in the world...yes he might be down with the average but he has shown dat he can kill any attack by beating the hell out of the west indians!