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irteja
March 16, 2008, 09:17 AM
[বাংলা]ঢাকা, ১৬ মার্চ (বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম) --- মেজাজ হারিয়ে বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুল রোববার পিটিয়েছেন এক দর্শককে। প্রত্যক্ষদর্শীদে ভাষ্য অনুযায়ী, মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামের নয় নাম্বার গেট দিয়ে দুপুরে ইনডোরে যাওয়ার সময় দর্শকরা তার উপর গালিগালাজের বৃষ্টি ঝরাচ্ছিলেন। তাতেই মেজাজ হারিয়ে বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক চড়াও হন জালাল নামের এক গার্মেন্টস কর্মীর ওপর। তাকে গোটাতিনেক চড়-থাপ্পড় লাগানোর পর ফুঁসে ওঠা দর্শকদের নিয়ন্ত্রণে আনে পুলিশ।

মাঠে তখন প্রিমিয়ার লিগের টোয়েন্টি টোয়েন্টির ফাইনালে আবাহনীর সঙ্গে খেলছে সিটি ক্লাব। সেসময়েই প্র্যাকটিসের জন্য স্টেডিয়ামে আসা জাতীয় দলের সদস্যরা নয় নাম্বার গেট দিয়ে যাচ্ছিলেন ইনডোরে। আর ওই গেট দিয়েই রোববার গ্যালারিতে ঢোকার সুযোগ পেয়েছেন দর্শকরাও। ইনডোর আর তার আশপাশের জায়গাতেও দর্শকদের অবাধ বিচরণ। গত কিছুদিনে বাংলাদেশ দলের মাঠের খারাপ পারফরম্যান্সের প্রেক্ষিতে এসব বিষয় ক্রিকেটারদের নিরাপত্তা নিয়েও উদ্বেগ তৈরি করেছে।

যার চূড়ান্ত প্রকাশ ঘটেছে রোববার। এর আগে দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকার বিপক্ষে সিরিজের দ্বিতীয় ওয়ানডের আগেরদিনও ইনডোরের সামনে গালিগালাজ শুনে এক দর্শকের দিকে তেড়ে গিয়েছিলেন মাশরাফি বিন মর্তুজা। যদিও আইসিসির নিয়ম অনুযায়ী এটা ব্যাপক শাস্তিযোগ্য অপরাধ। তবু গত কিছুদিনে এসব মাত্রা ছাড়িয়ে যাচ্ছিল বলেই জানালেন বাংলাদেশ দলের সহ-অধিনায়ক, "সহ্যের তো একটা সীমা আছে নাকি! আমিও তো মানুষ। রাগ-ক্ষোভ আমারও আছে। মা-বাবা তুলে গালি দেওয়ার পর কী কারো পক্ষে সহ্য করা সম্ভব।"

মাশরাফি অসম্ভব বলে মনে করলেও এদিন মাঠে থাকা অনেক সাবেক ক্রিকেটারই বলেছেন, আশরাফুলের ওভাবে দর্শকের ওপর চড়াও হওয়াটা ঠিক হয়নি। বাংলাদেশের প্রথম টেস্ট অধিনায়ক এবং বর্তমানে নির্বাচক নাঈমুর রহমানের ভাষ্য, "এরচেয়েও অনেক বেশি গালিগালাজ আমরা শুনেছি। কিন্তু কখনো এভাবে প্রতিক্রিয়া প্রকাশ করেছি বলে মনে পড়ে না।" কেন? সেটার একটা ব্যাখ্যা দিয়েছেন আরেক সাবেক অধিনায়ক খালেদ মাসুদ, "আমাদের দেশের মানুষের আবেগটা খুব বেশি। ভালো খেললে এরাই আবার আপনাকে মাথায় তুলে নাচবে। আবার খারাপ খেললে এরাই গালি দেয়। কাজেই এদের সঙ্গে ঝামেলায় না যাওয়াটাই বুদ্ধিমানের কাজ।" আশরাফুল অবশ্য এই ঘটনা সম্পর্কে কোনো মন্তব্যই করতে রাজী হননি।

কিন্তু ক্রিকেট দলের ওপর দর্শক রোষ তো একেবারে অজানা নয় বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের (বিসিবি)। দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকার বিপক্ষে শেষ ওয়ানডের পরও মিরপুর স্টেডিয়ামে সামনে দর্শকরা আশরাফুলের পদত্যাগ দাবি করে ব্যানার নিয়ে দাঁড়িয়েছিলেন। সেখানে রোববার যে নয় নাম্বার গেটে ঘটনা, সে জায়গাটা একদমই অরক্ষিত। সেখানে যে কারো পক্ষেই ক্রিকেটারদের ওপর চড়াও হওয়া সম্ভব ছিল। ইদানীং মাঠেও অবাধে লোকজন ঢুকে পড়তে পারছেন। প্রোটিয়াদের বিপক্ষে দ্বিতীয় ওয়ানডের আগেরদিন সংবাদ মাধ্যমের মুখোমুখি আশরাফুলকে একের পর এক অপ্রাসঙ্গিক প্রশ্নে জর্জরিত করছিলেন সাংবাদিকদের কাছেও অচেনা একজন। পরের জেরার মুখে ওই ব্যক্তি স্বীকার করেন তিনি মিরপুরের একটি কলেজের ছাত্র। সুযোগ পেয়ে ঢুকে পড়েছেন মাঠে। এসব ব্যাপারে দৃষ্টি আকর্ষণ করা হলে মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামের ভেন্যু প্রশাসক কর্নেল একেএম জাকি (অব.) বলেন, "নিরাপত্তার বিষয়টা দেখে বিসিবির নিরাপত্তা কমিটি।" কিন্তু নিরাপত্তা কমিটির সদস্য সচিব মেজর (অব.) ইমরোজের সঙ্গে টেলিফোনে বারবার যোগাযোগের চেষ্টা করেও তাকে পাওয়া যায়নি।

জালাল নামের দর্শকটিকে ঘটনার পর পুলিশ আটক করলেও পরে ছেড়ে দিয়েছে।

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IN ENGLISH

Ashraful slaps spectator!

Dhaka, March 16 (bdnews24.com) – Mohammad Ashraful Sunday allegedly slapped a spectator for swearing at him during the Premier Cricket Twenty20 final match between Abahani and City Club at Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium (SBNS) in Mirpur.

Ashraful was on way to the Indoor Complex for practice from the SBNS gym when some 100 spectators, who were watching the final match, called the national team captain 'bhua' (rubbish).

A security guard, however, claimed that the spectators had verbally abused him from a close distance.

Ashraful reportedly lost his cool and slapped a boy named Jalal, a garment worker, on the gate that connects the SBNS with the Indoor Complex.

The spectators reacted angrily and demanded justice before the police intervened and pacified them.

Ashraful denied having slapped the spectator. "Nothing happened," was all he would say to the reporters on the alleged incident.

The spectators later cheered Aftab Ahmed, Shahadat Hossain and others on their way to the complex.

National pacer Mashrafee Bin Mortaza had reacted sharply to a spectator's comment in the practice on the eve of the second one-dayer against South Africa on March 12.

"Everyone has a limit to tolerate. It is not possible to keep yourself in check when you hear people abusing your parents," said Mashrafee Sunday about that incident.

The incident has also raised concerns over the security of the cricketers as the spectators get the chance to get alarmingly close to the national cricketers during the nets. Some of them even throw invectives at the players for lacklustre performance.

A few spectators with placards had also demanded resignation of Ashraful after the third and final one-dayer against South Africa on March 14 outside the Mirpur Stadium.

A college student even managed to enter the post-match briefing to query Ashraful harshly.

"The security committee of the Bangladesh Cricket Board looks after these things," said AKM Jaki, administrator of the stadium.

"From now cricketers will not be allowed to go anywhere without police protection and we have conveyed the message to the team management after the incident," vice chairman of the BCB security committee Imroz Ahmed told bdnews24.com by phone.
"We heard so many ruthless words but never reacted to the spectators," said former national captain-turned-selector Naimur Rahman Durjoy, who was also there in the stadium.

bdnews24.com/ar/bd/2011hours

Sohel
March 16, 2008, 09:21 AM
This is TOTALLY unbecoming of any professional athlete, let alone our national captain ! Unacceptable !!! ...

Rabz
March 16, 2008, 09:22 AM
Hmmmm...
the bengali emotions are coming out....

...Ash is loosin it

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 09:23 AM
েজাজ হারিয়ে দর্শকের গায়ে হাত তুললেন আশরাফুল



ঢাকা, ১৬ মার্চ (বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম) --- মেজাজ হারিয়ে বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুল রোববার পিটিয়েছেন এক দর্শককে। প্রত্যক্ষদর্শীদে ভাষ্য অনুযায়ী, মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামের নয় নাম্বার গেট দিয়ে দুপুরে ইনডোরে যাওয়ার সময় দর্শকরা তার উপর গালিগালাজের বৃষ্টি ঝরাচ্ছিলেন। তাতেই মেজাজ হারিয়ে বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক চড়াও হন জালাল নামের এক গার্মেন্টস কর্মীর ওপর। তাকে গোটাতিনেক চড়-থাপ্পড় লাগানোর পর ফুঁসে ওঠা দর্শকদের নিয়ন্ত্রণে আনে পুলিশ।

মাঠে তখন প্রিমিয়ার লিগের টোয়েন্টি টোয়েন্টির ফাইনালে আবাহনীর সঙ্গে খেলছে সিটি ক্লাব। সেসময়েই প্র্যাকটিসের জন্য স্টেডিয়ামে আসা জাতীয় দলের সদস্যরা নয় নাম্বার গেট দিয়ে যাচ্ছিলেন ইনডোরে। আর ওই গেট দিয়েই রোববার গ্যালারিতে ঢোকার সুযোগ পেয়েছেন দর্শকরাও। ইনডোর আর তার আশপাশের জায়গাতেও দর্শকদের অবাধ বিচরণ। গত কিছুদিনে বাংলাদেশ দলের মাঠের খারাপ পারফরম্যান্সের প্রেক্ষিতে এসব বিষয় ক্রিকেটারদের নিরাপত্তা নিয়েও উদ্বেগ তৈরি করেছে।

যার চূড়ান্ত প্রকাশ ঘটেছে রোববার। এর আগে দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকার বিপক্ষে সিরিজের দ্বিতীয় ওয়ানডের আগেরদিনও ইনডোরের সামনে গালিগালাজ শুনে এক দর্শকের দিকে তেড়ে গিয়েছিলেন মাশরাফি বিন মর্তুজা। যদিও আইসিসির নিয়ম অনুযায়ী এটা ব্যাপক শাস্তিযোগ্য অপরাধ। তবু গত কিছুদিনে এসব মাত্রা ছাড়িয়ে যাচ্ছিল বলেই জানালেন বাংলাদেশ দলের সহ-অধিনায়ক, "সহ্যের তো একটা সীমা আছে নাকি! আমিও তো মানুষ। রাগ-ক্ষোভ আমারও আছে। মা-বাবা তুলে গালি দেওয়ার পর কী কারো পক্ষে সহ্য করা সম্ভব।"

মাশরাফি অসম্ভব বলে মনে করলেও এদিন মাঠে থাকা অনেক সাবেক ক্রিকেটারই বলেছেন, আশরাফুলের ওভাবে দর্শকের ওপর চড়াও হওয়াটা ঠিক হয়নি। বাংলাদেশের প্রথম টেস্ট অধিনায়ক এবং বর্তমানে নির্বাচক নাঈমুর রহমানের ভাষ্য, "এরচেয়েও অনেক বেশি গালিগালাজ আমরা শুনেছি। কিন্তু কখনো এভাবে প্রতিক্রিয়া প্রকাশ করেছি বলে মনে পড়ে না।" কেন? সেটার একটা ব্যাখ্যা দিয়েছেন আরেক সাবেক অধিনায়ক খালেদ মাসুদ, "আমাদের দেশের মানুষের আবেগটা খুব বেশি। ভালো খেললে এরাই আবার আপনাকে মাথায় তুলে নাচবে। আবার খারাপ খেললে এরাই গালি দেয়। কাজেই এদের সঙ্গে ঝামেলায় না যাওয়াটাই বুদ্ধিমানের কাজ।" আশরাফুল অবশ্য এই ঘটনা সম্পর্কে কোনো মন্তব্যই করতে রাজী হননি।

কিন্তু ক্রিকেট দলের ওপর দর্শক রোষ তো একেবারে অজানা নয় বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের (বিসিবি)। দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকার বিপক্ষে শেষ ওয়ানডের পরও মিরপুর স্টেডিয়ামে সামনে দর্শকরা আশরাফুলের পদত্যাগ দাবি করে ব্যানার নিয়ে দাঁড়িয়েছিলেন। সেখানে রোববার যে নয় নাম্বার গেটে ঘটনা, সে জায়গাটা একদমই অরক্ষিত। সেখানে যে কারো পক্ষেই ক্রিকেটারদের ওপর চড়াও হওয়া সম্ভব ছিল। ইদানীং মাঠেও অবাধে লোকজন ঢুকে পড়তে পারছেন। প্রোটিয়াদের বিপক্ষে দ্বিতীয় ওয়ানডের আগেরদিন সংবাদ মাধ্যমের মুখোমুখি আশরাফুলকে একের পর এক অপ্রাসঙ্গিক প্রশ্নে জর্জরিত করছিলেন সাংবাদিকদের কাছেও অচেনা একজন। পরের জেরার মুখে ওই ব্যক্তি স্বীকার করেন তিনি মিরপুরের একটি কলেজের ছাত্র। সুযোগ পেয়ে ঢুকে পড়েছেন মাঠে। এসব ব্যাপারে দৃষ্টি আকর্ষণ করা হলে মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামের ভেন্যু প্রশাসক কর্নেল একেএম জাকি (অব.) বলেন, "নিরাপত্তার বিষয়টা দেখে বিসিবির নিরাপত্তা কমিটি।" কিন্তু নিরাপত্তা কমিটির সদস্য সচিব মেজর (অব.) ইমরোজের সঙ্গে টেলিফোনে বারবার যোগাযোগের চেষ্টা করেও তাকে পাওয়া যায়নি।

জালাল নামের দর্শকটিকে ঘটনার পর পুলিশ আটক করলেও পরে ছেড়ে দিয়েছে।

This is not good. This is totally a negative impact.:mad: He is not performing well, but why did he go against fans. Fans would be disappointed about his batting and can tell bad things to him. This is reality, you have to face it. Ash lost his reputation to the people.

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 09:32 AM
So do we need him anymore? A captain who can't control himself.. Even atleast our pagla mamu aka mash can control himself.

Miraz
March 16, 2008, 09:34 AM
I hope this is not the beginning of his end. He deserves better and defnitely Bangladesh needs a more polished Ashraful.

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 09:35 AM
Ash again failed in another "Maturity Test". Thats why some of us were never comfortable when they announced Ash as a Caption. The statement that "Ash will do much better Bashar" never made me comfortable as that doesn't tell you much. Lot of player could have done batter than Bashar.

Thats why its risky to pick a captain, whose individual consistency was always a question Mark. Ash may be a match winner, but was never a consistent performer. basher was much more consistent player, and even then his problem (with the fans) started only after his form dipped down for a while.

But I liked Bashar's captaincy off the field, specially how he handled off the field incidents.

Thats again shows Ash's lack of maturity: in the field as well as off the field.

You cannot change people completely.

I don't know when we will realize that there are somethings you cannot convert.... its like trying to make silk purse out of a horse's rear.

Rabz
March 16, 2008, 09:45 AM
This is the last thing we needed before the Irish series, more controversy.

Our "immature" and "fragile" captain now have more pressure on him, to perform both on and off the field.

Much better was expected of Ash.

Time for some serious thinking.

Rabz
March 16, 2008, 09:48 AM
.....i'm forbidden to say it!
but its itching me.... :) .....

Aritro
March 16, 2008, 09:56 AM
Say it.

GuruTM
March 16, 2008, 09:59 AM
Guys, before we jump on Ashraful............

Any report on what the spectator said/gestured to Ashraful? Its just the one side of coin we are seeing right now. If the spectator used vulgar comments/language then there is not much i can say about the issue.

[বাংলা]মা বাপ তুলে গালি দিয়ে থাকলে এটা একরকম প্রাপ্যই। এক হাতে তালি বাজে না।[/বাংলা]

irteja
March 16, 2008, 10:01 AM
There is already a thread on the same issue.

Moderators Please Marge this thread to দর্শকের গায়ে হাত তুললেন আশরাফুল (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=26024)

CricTiger
March 16, 2008, 10:02 AM
So what we gonna do about this now ? Very Sad and Unprofessional behavior.Should be counted for his actions after all he is the captain .

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 10:03 AM
There is already a thread on the same issue.

Moderators Please Marge this thread to দর্শকের গায়ে হাত তুললেন আশরাফুল (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=26024)

i know right, i was late....

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 10:05 AM
There are some cases it doesn't matter. And this the perfect case to me where "It doesn't matter" what kind of vulgar comments/language the public used. Its not about defending that public.


Regardless whatever he said, this kind of reaction by a professional player (physically attacking) is not acceptable in any country, and it should be true for Bangladesh also. If a player react physically to verbal abuse (by fans), they always get banned, sometimes for extended time.

There is no other side of the story for this case. The only thing they can question is to validate if Ash really physically abused that guy or not.

CricTiger
March 16, 2008, 10:07 AM
[বাংলা]মা বাপ তুলে গালি দিয়ে থাকলে এটা একরকম প্রাপ্যই। এক হাতে তালি বাজে না।[/বাংলা]

I can not beleive that you said this.So how about the গালি in the field.You want him to slap other players too?We all know him and he is the captain -he should set the norm. No ....... :-/

gunda
March 16, 2008, 10:11 AM
why is everting in bengali? isn't der a english news in bangla? i can't read bangla.
can sum1 translate dis in english or give a site dat does bangla articles in english?

Omio
March 16, 2008, 10:13 AM
[বাংলা]ঐ বেটা জালাল ভাল লোক না, গারমেণ্টস কর্মি। ওদের সভাব হল গালি গালাজ, এর ত্থেকে ওদের কাছে বেশি কিছু আশা করা জাই না, ২/১ টা চড় থাপ্পর হল ওদের জন্য পান্তাভাত।
কিন্তু, আশরাফুল তো আমাদের দলের নেতা, এটা কোনভাবে গ্রহন করা যা্য না।
..........edited...........[/বাংলা]

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 10:16 AM
[বাংলা]ঐ বেটা জালাল ভাল লোক না, গারমেণ্টস কর্মি। ওদের সভাব হল গালি গালাজ, এর ত্থেকে ওদের কাছে বেশি কিছু আশা করা জাই না, ২/১ টা চড় থাপ্পর হল ওদের জন্য পান্তাভাত।
কিন্তু, আশরাফুল তো আমাদের দলের নেতা, এটা কনভাবে গ্রহন করা যাই না।
কুকুর কামর দিলে তো র আমরা কুকুর কে কামড়াতে পারিনা।[/বাংলা]

Now we got our scapegoat for Ireland series also ..... Jalil Betyee Choor.

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 10:18 AM
kothai ache ostader mair shesh raite
oi galigalazer jobab ashraful irelander shathe ekta century koira jobab dito
kintu ei pola shesh mair dewar agei flop korche..

ash ash ash
tumi shobaike koro bash bash
koiro na r vul
nahole tumi ekta fool

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 10:19 AM
[বাংলা]ঐ বেটা জালাল ভাল লোক না, গারমেণ্টস কর্মি। ওদের সভাব হল গালি গালাজ, এর ত্থেকে ওদের কাছে বেশি কিছু আশা করা জাই না, ২/১ টা চড় থাপ্পর হল ওদের জন্য পান্তাভাত।
কিন্তু, আশরাফুল তো আমাদের দলের নেতা, এটা কোনভাবে গ্রহন করা যা্য না।
কুকুর কা্মড় দিলে তো ার আমরা কুকুর কে কামড়াতে পারিনা।[/বাংলা]

Thats raise the question, Shouldn't he be nice with his own class?

What so good about 'ball-boy' and whats so bad about 'garments worker'? I am not saying either of them is bad... but if you say one is bad, whats soo good about the other one?

Omio
March 16, 2008, 10:20 AM
My vote for poll- [বাংলা]চড় থাপ্পড় মারাই ঠিক হয়েছে[/বাংলা]

irteja
March 16, 2008, 10:22 AM
[বাংলা]ঐ বেটা জালাল ভাল লোক না, গারমেণ্টস কর্মি। ওদের সভাব হল গালি গালাজ, এর ত্থেকে ওদের কাছে বেশি কিছু আশা করা জাই না, ২/১ টা চড় থাপ্পর হল ওদের জন্য পান্তাভাত।
কিন্তু, আশরাফুল তো আমাদের দলের নেতা, এটা কনভাবে গ্রহন করা যাই না।
কুকুর কামর দিলে তো র আমরা কুকুর কে কামড়াতে পারিনা।[/বাংলা]
[বাংলা]
এক জন নিজের রক্ত পানি করে খেটে খাওয়া শ্রমিক। সে ক্রিকেট প্রেমী দেখেই খেলা দেখতে গিয়েছে। গারমেণ্টস কর্মি দেখে তারা কি মানুষ না ? ওদের স্বভাব গালি গালাজ বলা সকল শ্রমিকদের প্রতি নির্মম আবিচার এবং হিংসাত্বক আচরন।

একজন গরীব শ্রমিককে কুকুরের সাথে তুলনা দেওয়ার তিব্র প্রতিবাদ জানাই।
[/বাংলা]

CricTiger
March 16, 2008, 10:27 AM
[বাংলা]ঐ বেটা জালাল ভাল লোক না, গারমেণ্টস কর্মি। ওদের সভাব হল গালি গালাজ, এর ত্থেকে ওদের কাছে বেশি কিছু আশা করা জাই না, ২/১ টা চড় থাপ্পর হল ওদের জন্য পান্তাভাত।
কিন্তু, আশরাফুল তো আমাদের দলের নেতা, এটা কোনভাবে গ্রহন করা যা্য না।
কুকুর কা্মড় দিলে তো ার আমরা কুকুর কে কামড়াতে পারিনা।[/বাংলা]

How do you know -জালাল ভাল লোক না, গারমেণ্টস কর্মি। ?/??And also you are comparing him with কুকুর কা্মড় দিলে তো ার আমরা কুকুর কে কামড়াতে পারিনা। Very low opinion and sad comments .Chill down ---

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 10:28 AM
First of all I don't like this 'Kukur' analogy.

If we really need to bring 'kukur' analogy in out discussion then I think the analogy of the garment worker as 'kukur' doesn't make sense. It we really want to comapre one side with 'Kukur' it should be other way around, For example...


Jodi Mamush Kay Gali than...Manus palta Gali Debey..
Jodi Kukur ki Gali than... Kukur Tere Kamrate ashbey..

Miraz
March 16, 2008, 10:28 AM
[বাংলা]ইরতেজার সাথে পূর্ণ সহমত । অমিও আশা করি ওর ভুল বুঝতে পারবে । এখানে কারো পেশা বিবেচ্য হওয়া উচিত নয় । সবার একটিই পরিচয় আর সেটি হলো বাংলাদেশ দলের সমর্থক । ওই গার্মেন্টস কর্মী বাংলাদেশ দলের একজন একনিষ্ঠ সমর্থক দেখেই প্রাকটিস দেখতে গিয়েছিলো । [/বাংলা]

lamisa
March 16, 2008, 10:29 AM
My vote for poll- [বাংলা]চড় থাপ্পড় মারাই ঠিক হয়েছে[/বাংলা]

same here!i mean come on gous mathe oh r choddo gushtir maan tuilla keu gaillay na.mathe ja howk bat diya ball pitano jay.r eikhane jokhon nijeder manushii amma abbare gaillay,howz he supposd to feel?:hairpull:

lamisa
March 16, 2008, 10:30 AM
rabz bhai boilla den na oi onno shutay ki bolte chaisilen?

samjad
March 16, 2008, 10:30 AM
[বাংলা]ঐ বেটা জালাল ভাল লোক না, গারমেণ্টস কর্মি। ওদের সভাব হল গালি গালাজ, এর ত্থেকে ওদের কাছে বেশি কিছু আশা করা জাই না, ২/১ টা চড় থাপ্পর হল ওদের জন্য পান্তাভাত।
কিন্তু, আশরাফুল তো আমাদের দলের নেতা, এটা কোনভাবে গ্রহন করা যা্য না।
কুকুর কা্মড় দিলে তো ার আমরা কুকুর কে কামড়াতে পারিনা।[/বাংলা]

Garments workers keeping our economy alive. So pay respect to them before you say anything. I would treat them better then our beloved cricketers.

Miraz
March 16, 2008, 10:31 AM
[বাংলা]ফজল এটিও খুব cheap shot হয়ে গেলো । আমরা কি আরেকটু উদার হতে পারিনা? এখানে যে কাউকেই কুকুর বলে সম্বোধন করা বা তুলনা করাটা রুচিকর লাগছেনা । [/বাংলা]

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 10:33 AM
,howz he supposd to feel?:hairpull:

If you ask me, I would say he should feel bad... really BAD... talk with the authority to remove that fan..... but that doesn't give him license to kill.... I mean license to assault.

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 10:36 AM
[বাংলা]ফজল এটিও খুব cheap shot হয়ে গেলো । আমরা কি আরেকটু উদার হতে পারিনা? এখানে যে কাউকেই কুকুর বলে সম্বোধন করা বা তুলনা করাটা রুচিকর লাগছেনা । [/বাংলা]

Well I am not the one who raised the 'kukur' analogy here in the first place. When someone bring it, its a fair game. This just to show the member that some times these kind of cheap shot cuts both way, so be careful before you bring it in the discussion.

I hope we all agree that bringing the 'kukur' analogy by Omio shouldn't brought in the first place. And its a cheap shot from both end. Sorry for that.

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 10:38 AM
same here!i mean come on gous mathe oh r choddo gushtir maan tuilla keu gaillay na.mathe ja howk bat diya ball pitano jay.r eikhane jokhon nijeder manushii amma abbare gaillay,howz he supposd to feel?:hairpull:

yah it feels bad, kintu akhon bangladesh team hoilo shobche kharap positionea, r ashraful thikmoto click korte parchena, fans ra khepbei plus dui tinta kharap gali dibe.. aro kintu kharap jinish hoite parto jemon playerder poster porano, eta akmatro india r pakistanei hoi.... dhoni team jokhon WC 07 e amader kache harchilo, tokhon ki taderke galigalaz korano + poster porano hoi nai? tokhon india team chup kore chilo, tara shotik shomoyer jonno wait korchilo... tara tader jobab shesh raite dekhaia diche australiar moto team ke beat kore...

gunda
March 16, 2008, 10:38 AM
sorry is this the only "bengali speaking thread" than i shud leave..

Miraz
March 16, 2008, 10:39 AM
[বাংলা]আমি মডারেটরদের কুকুর তুলনা বা রূপক হিসাবে ব্যবহার করা পোষ্টগুলি এডিট করার জন্য অনুরোধ করছি । [/বাংলা]

detroitpagla
March 16, 2008, 10:44 AM
hahaha u serious? ashFool slapped a man? no way? first captain....now a gunda? omg im gonna quit watching bd cricket

irteja
March 16, 2008, 10:47 AM
[বাংলা]ইরতেজার সাথে পূর্ণ সহমত । অমিও আশা করি ওর ভুল বুঝতে পারবে । এখানে কারো পেশা বিবেচ্য হওয়া উচিত নয় । সবার একটিই পরিচয় আর সেটি হলো বাংলাদেশ দলের সমর্থক । ওই গার্মেন্টস কর্মী বাংলাদেশ দলের একজন একনিষ্ঠ সমর্থক দেখেই প্রাকটিস দেখতে গিয়েছিলো । [/বাংলা]

[বাংলা]মিরাজ ভাইয়ের সাথে একমত একজন ক্রিকেট প্রেমী বলেই সে নিজের কষ্টের টাকা খরচ করে খেলা দেখতে গিয়েছে।

আজকে আসরাফুলদের অন্নের জোগান কিন্তু এই বাংলাদেশের মানুষেরাই ট্যাক্সের টাকা দিয়ে দেয়। একজন রিক্সাওয়ালা হোক আর গার্মেটস কর্মি হোক তারা নিজের সৎ ভাবে পরিশ্রম করে জীবন জাপন করে। গরীব বলে ওদের কি মান সম্মান নাই? তাদের জা খুসি করা যাবে? তাদের সবার সামনে থাপ্পর মারা যাবে? এটা কেমন কথা?

একজন শ্রমিককে এই ভাবে কুকুরের সাথে তুলনা দেওয়ায় ঘৃণা জানাই।
[/বাংলা]

Roni_uk
March 16, 2008, 10:53 AM
My vote for poll- [বাংলা]চড় থাপ্পড় মারাই ঠিক হয়েছে[/বাংলা]

me2. The thing is .. Bangali gaaali r kono ma bap nai. If someone swearing at my face about my mum and dad, I would have done the same. No matter who I am or what the situation is. Bangladeshi fans need education!!.. so what Ash/Mash not performing well... they don't deserve this from their own crowd. Remember, form is temporary but the class is permanent. They are both classy players, just going through bad times like everyone else.

Dhakablues
March 16, 2008, 10:54 AM
Now they are requiring police protection for every move. Good move by the Chameli board. This is the fist time in Bangladesh that this happned that even cricketers need police protection like the "gunman" protection by the BNP government for the Dhaka commissioners. My question is who is in the national team? The pooled players or every players from the Under 17+19+"Sensational team"Because our list of national players grows by the dozen every year...

Ashraful couldnt take the pressure anymore... and he snapped. As a human being, I dont blame him but as a national team captain and a professional player, its unacceptable. BCB should have reprimanded him and asked to toughen up. But then again,, we have a Chompa-Chameli Board who has expeirence running swimming/Kabadi comittees than a professional body.

zainab
March 16, 2008, 10:54 AM
I dont believe this! There are 2 sides to a coin, maybe the truth should be out before everyone asks for Ash's head.

By the way, everyone writing in Bangla,seems that you do not want your English speaking fans to know what you are saying. If that be the case, then maybe this is not the forum for non BD supporters.

Omio
March 16, 2008, 10:56 AM
[বাংলা]ইরতেজার সাথে পূর্ণ সহমত । অমিও আশা করি ওর ভুল বুঝতে পারবে । এখানে কারো পেশা বিবেচ্য হওয়া উচিত নয় । সবার একটিই পরিচয় আর সেটি হলো বাংলাদেশ দলের সমর্থক । ওই গার্মেন্টস কর্মী বাংলাদেশ দলের একজন একনিষ্ঠ সমর্থক দেখেই
প্রাকটিস দেখতে গিয়েছিলো । [/বাংলা]
[বাংলা]
প্রাকটিস দেখতে যাবে সেটা তো অতি মহৎ কাজ, কিন্তু মা কে নিয়ে কেন গালি দিবে,
আমাদের প্লেয়াররা এম্নিতে চাপে আছে, এই সময় আমাদের ওদের পাশে থাকা,
আর আমরা তা না করে উলতা গালি দিই। ওরাও তো মানুষ।
[/বাংলা]

zainab
March 16, 2008, 10:59 AM
There is always two sides to a coin, before everyone jumps to his own conclusions, one should find out the truth. Ash must have been insulted very badly by this fan.

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 11:06 AM
[বাংলা]
প্রাকটিস দেখতে যাবে সেতা তউ অতি মহৎ কাজ, কিন্তু মা কে নিয়ে কেন গালি দিবে,
আমাদের প্লেয়াররা এম্নিতে চাপে আছে, এই সময় আমাদের ওদের পাশে থাকা,
আর আমরা তা না করে উলতা গালি দিই। ওরাও তো মানুষ।
[/বাংলা]

amader ash je peroform kortache, fans ra kharap gali dibe etai shavabik....apnei dekhen ash eker por ek faul kotha bole jachhe, fansder to etai kharap lagtei pare.. r cheye aro ekta kharap gotche last odi te... ash jokhon to speech dite jabe, tokhon stadiumer shob dorshok bollo " vua vua" eiber guess koren ken bolchilo?

r ashraful irelander shathe ekta century maira jobabta dito, ekjon shikkhito player ontoto ei jinishta bujto.

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 11:06 AM
I think the spectator deserved it. Nobody has the right to swear by mom or dad. Leave professionalism and all that aside, if I was Ash then I would have done the same or even more. He is not playing well, alright, but it does NOT give you the right to get so personal and get down to the level of swearing.

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 11:08 AM
amader ash je peroform kortache, fans ra gali dibe etai shavabik....

r ashraful irelander shathe ekta century maira jobabta dito, ekjon shikkhito player ontoto ei mentality ta bujto.

Let me ask you one simple question: What would you've done if you were Ash? Could you've swallowed it?

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 11:12 AM
Let me ask you one simple question: What would you've done if you were Ash? Could you've swallowed it?

for god sake, If I was Ash, i would do nothing to that guy. Defense is the best offense. I will try to score a century against ireland and prove myself that i'm not finished.

gunda
March 16, 2008, 11:14 AM
so Everybody typing in bangla.. we minority "can't read bangla fans" can't even read this important and amusing article..no one willing to translate or give this article in english ..so ere it is to my english speaking ppl "who can't read bangla"


Dhaka, March 16 – Mohammad Ashraful Sunday allegedly slapped a spectator for swearing at him during the Premier Cricket Twenty20 final match between Abahani and City Club at Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium (SBNS) in Mirpur.

Ashraful was on way to the Indoor Complex for practice from the SBNS gym when some 100 spectators, who were watching the final match, called the national team captain 'bhua' (rubbish).

A security guard, however, claimed that the spectators had verbally abused him from a close distance.

Ashraful reportedly lost his cool and slapped a boy named Jalal, a garment worker, on the gate that connects the SBNS with the Indoor Complex.

The spectators reacted angrily and demanded justice before the police intervened and pacified them.

Ashraful denied having slapped the spectator. "Nothing happened," was all he would say to the reporters on the alleged incident.

The spectators later cheered Aftab Ahmed, Shahadat Hossain and others on their way to the complex.

National pacer Mashrafee Bin Mortaza had reacted sharply to a spectator's comment in the practice on the eve of the second one-dayer against South Africa on March 12.

"Everyone has a limit to tolerate. It is not possible to keep yourself in check when you hear people abusing your parents," said Mashrafee Sunday about that incident.

The incident has also raised concerns over the security of the cricketers as the spectators get the chance to get alarmingly close to the national cricketers during the nets. Some of them even throw invectives at the players for lacklustre performance.

A few spectators with placards had also demanded resignation of Ashraful after the third and final one-dayer against South Africa on March 14 outside the Mirpur Stadium.

A college student even managed to enter the post-match briefing to query Ashraful harshly.

"The security committee of the Bangladesh Cricket Board looks after these things," said AKM Jaki, administrator of the stadium.

"We heard so many ruthless words but never reacted to the spectators," said former national captain-turned-selector Naimur Rahman Durjoy, who was also there in the stadium. :flag:

irteja
March 16, 2008, 11:15 AM
for god sake, If I was Ash, i would do nothing to that guy. Defense is the best offense. I will try to score a century against ireland and prove myself that i'm not finished.

SPOT ON BROTHER. exactly my answer. :big_hug:

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 11:15 AM
Easier said than done. Good for you. djnaved for national captain!

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 11:21 AM
Good for you. djnaved for national captain!

thankush:-D

Shobha
March 16, 2008, 11:22 AM
bloody hell would someone translate this story already. i can read bangla but i dont hav that software installed so all i can see is lots of squares.
could someone please please state what happened??????????

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 11:22 AM
This 'garment worker' may have used crude language
swearing Ash's mom and dad using native language that Ash understand. In sledging they also do it in a sophisticated and indirect way. In both cases the message is the same.

So what Ash will do next time if someone sledge him, try to hit the opponent player during the game? of course the assumption is: he understand the meaning what they are saying in the sledging....

May be that is saving us from a greater disaster (not understating what they are saying)....

Rifat
March 16, 2008, 11:23 AM
ai abosthay amra "Ireland" ke harate chai... SHAME!!! i can see that people will seriously "beat the hell out of our players" when we lose to them 3-0(i wouldn't be surprised if we do... since ever since whatmore left, this team only picked up a 20/20 win and practice match victories, nothing else)) i advise Ashraful to quit Bangladesh Cricket for about a year...take a break or something, because it is going too far... he has enough money, he should get married and enjoy family life for a couple of years...


SERIOUSLY, IT IS GOING QUITE FAR... THIS SPORT IS TURNING INTO MADNESS in Bangladesh


about Mashrafee... it is one thing when you insult the player face to face, but when you insult their parents.... SHAME!! so i sort of support him reacting... but not totally! criticizing players or giving him advice is the best way to self improvement but calling someone "bhua/fake" doesn't do anything!


to Bangladesh National Bound Cricket Players: we know what you are going through... this love that filled the air about 340 days ago or so is now turned into rage, hatred and anger, simply because we have underperformed. do not concentrate on the negative fans or comments... visit
BanglaCricket.com and see how thousands of people type day and night just to keep the spirits up... because in this site there exists many, many true Fans of Bangladesh Cricket...

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 11:24 AM
bloody hell would someone translate this story already. i can read bangla but i dont hav that software installed so all i can see is lots of squares.
could someone please please state what happened??????????

Just look few posts above, gunda posted a translation.

And please refrain from typing in all bold.

Ehsan
- Mod

rattlehead
March 16, 2008, 11:25 AM
so Everybody typing in bangla.. we minority "can't read bangla fans" can't even read this important and amusing article..no one willing to translate or give this article in english ..so ere it is to my english speaking ppl "who can't read bangla"




thanks gunda for considering us minorities..:)
and for those saying it was ok to loose his cool because the abuse involved his parents, u need to understand that this man is *supposed* to be a professional and needs to act that way. the way he is performing even he should know this was coming his way one way or another

Shobha
March 16, 2008, 11:25 AM
thanks gunda!

Rifat
March 16, 2008, 11:25 AM
Ashraful is still in excellent form! but, he is going through a series of dismissals where it's not in his control.... he will inshallah get back to superb form soon :bighug:

Rabz
March 16, 2008, 11:27 AM
.....i'm forbidden to say it!
but its itching me.... :) .....

rabz bhai boilla den na oi onno shutay ki bolte chaisilen?

Say it.

There is already a thread on the same issue.

Moderators Please Marge this thread to দর্শকের গায়ে হাত তুললেন আশরাফুল (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=26024)

Sorry to burst your bubbles Lamisa and Aritro.:-p

Irteja said it for me.:-D

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 11:28 AM
Ashraful is still in excellent form! but, he is going through a series of dismissals where it's not in his control.... he will inshallah get back to superb form soon :bighug:

Whose control is it then?

This excuse can be used for any players... for example Bashar, Gullu, Pilot, Alok, Tushar... no?

Shobha
March 16, 2008, 11:29 AM
i apologise in advance if i offend anybody, but some of these fans are just a bunch of crazy pathetic loosers. they want ash to resign???? yeah that's really gonna take BD cricket far in life.
in other thoughts...resign from what? captincy or cricket itself. not very clear.

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 11:32 AM
This excuse can be used for any players... for example Bashar, Gullu, Pilot, Alok, Tushar... no?

yah, i agree

gullu, pilot and rajin are in excellent form, they are having healthy run average.But why they are not in team? Because they don't have talents? They are too old?

Electrequiem
March 16, 2008, 11:33 AM
blatant idiocy from Ashraful...can't imagine HaBa doing something like that EVER.

Maybe the salary cut is getting to him.

Dhakablues
March 16, 2008, 11:34 AM
Ashrafool is in Excellent form? Really? Is that relative to cricket runs or chor-thappor run?

Protic
March 16, 2008, 11:39 AM
Heh.. You know what.. there is a LEVEL OF PEOPLE who just go to stadiums to pick fights.. Garment worker..said it all.. Im sure he verbally abused ashraful..and I wud have done the same.. And about Ashraful..these kinda nonsense happened with lots of FAMOUS cricketers..for example INZI.. Ashraful will recover..and come back strongly in the Ireland series..

ialbd
March 16, 2008, 11:42 AM
haire.... we are falling apart here.......

germany
March 16, 2008, 11:43 AM
[বাংলা]ঐ বেটা জালাল ভাল লোক না, গারমেণ্টস কর্মি। ওদের সভাব হল গালি গালাজ, এর ত্থেকে ওদের কাছে বেশি কিছু আশা করা জাই না, ২/১ টা চড় থাপ্পর হল ওদের জন্য পান্তাভাত।
কিন্তু, আশরাফুল তো আমাদের দলের নেতা, এটা কোনভাবে গ্রহন করা যা্য না।
..........edited...........[/বাংলা]

this Omio guy must be a bangla cinema'r BOROLOK.
tai unar kotha barta orokom
oishob Omiora bangladesher 80% lokke deny kore

colonial attitude!

gunda
March 16, 2008, 11:44 AM
i fink that both the spectator and ash have a point..
although it's alleged not clear if it did happen?
ASH: if he did slap the spectator than his right cuz that guy shudn't be nowhere near ash in the first place let alone abuse him..i mean come on theres limit to everyfing.. if sumone abused your mum or made a personal attack on you ofcourse you gona react,thats human nature.So i fink if you look at it from ash view his right.

SPECTATOR: if the spectator abused ash than his got certain amount of right to do so, come on put yourself in his place,theres so much a fan can take..humilation after humilation whitewash after whitewash on the home ground aswel, sumfing had to give, guess he just pissed off like most of we are of the phatetic performence,so since he was there he thought he'll make his feelings heard and i don't blame him for that.

Electrequiem
March 16, 2008, 11:45 AM
I do not understand these cheap shots being taken at "garment workers." I thought most of you were intellectual enough to see beyond petty class differences...apparently not. Just because they are "garment workers" their personalities are relegated to vulgarity and bawdiness? I strongly protest.

sadhat
March 16, 2008, 11:47 AM
I think it's okay to react like this. Look at India. They become giant after kicking their butt during world cup. Their houses were burned and ruined. They got what the deserved. After winning in Australia they got 2M dollar rewards. We should do it too. Smash their houses. At least they will perform worrying about assets.

AsifTheManRahman
March 16, 2008, 11:49 AM
This is a serious accusation. I'd rather wait and see how things play out before jumping to any conclusions. Key-word "alleged".

Now a couple of points. We all know that our people - especially cricket fans - are no saints, and if the incident is indeed true, the abuse must have been bad enough for Ash to react like that. This does not justify his actions, but it does show the sad state that we are in as a nation/group of people. Simply put, we are not civilized.

Coming back to Ash's reaction, if this is indeed true, he deserves to sit out during the Ireland tour. Either that, or - in case this turns out to be detrimental to the performance/spirit of the team - he needs to be fined or penalized heavily in some other way. He is a professional, and it doesn't matter what some of you here might have done in a similar situation. He is the leader of eleven men who represent the nation, and he gets paid a hefty amount to do it. There are other ways to retaliate - you can obviously demand more security. When you're Mohammad Ashraful, the board will do what you want, especially when it comes to your well-being when on duty.

Our players seem to be losing it. This can in no way be good for the team, especially ahead of a difficult tour. It's high time that the board takes the right steps towards ensuring that the cricketers get the kind of environment that they need on and off the field.

AsifTheManRahman
March 16, 2008, 11:54 AM
haire.... we are falling apart here.......

Totally. I'm not sure if these guys are strong enough, mentally, to keep doing what they have to do and go on to beat Ireland in a couple of days.

germany
March 16, 2008, 11:56 AM
its not about fans or players, we still live in the middle age
to take the law in our hands is our everyday practice
let fans swear me however they want
if i am matured and propefessional ...
eishob gaali ami ek kan diye dhukiye ar ek kan diye ber kortam

ash is an idiot, thats all

mshakir56
March 16, 2008, 11:59 AM
our spectators are slowly becoming like indian spectators! great going, keep it up guys !

thebest
March 16, 2008, 12:02 PM
those who are defending Ash on the pretext that what you would do if you are in his position is actually missing the point or do not know what a professional player to endure to perform. During heyday of Abahoni- Mohamoddan spectators actually verbally raped player's wife and mother. I could not remember one instant when a player reacted. I remember in one match Urine was thrown to the opponent's team GK. If a player performed very badly, you just can not realize how much abuse he met in Abahoni maat by Abahoni supporter or in BUET field by Mohamoddon supporters. There is still nothing between player and spectator. But not a single word exchanged between player and supporter.
Somebody should tell, this spectator pay his bill but before that Ash should be sacked from national team and suspended from any competitive match till investigation regarding this completed.
Fazal actually initiated a very good question. How would he react if somebody sledge him and he understood that it is about his wife or parent. For example this . Marsh to Botham: Hi How is your wife and my children?
Th

Electrequiem
March 16, 2008, 12:03 PM
This just in:

This "Jalal" was actually Irish Captain Trent Johnston in disguise. He wanted to lower Ashraful's morale and public image before the ODIs against the Irish.

sigh...

Shobha
March 16, 2008, 12:05 PM
dhoni was the next big thing to the indians fans, almost the god of cricket. then came 1 match. yes, that famous 17th march. and within moments his life became a nightmare because of these fans. his house got robbed, his effigies were burnt to name a few. :(BUT that didnt crush dhoni, instead he put his head down and gave these bunch of morons something to dance about - captained the indian team to victory over pakistan in the first ever 20/20 final and became champions. now his back to being god again:)

my point, ash should learn from this experince and outsmart every single person that doubted him.:flag:

sandpiper
March 16, 2008, 12:07 PM
Just read the news. What the hell is going on? :(

germany
March 16, 2008, 12:11 PM
just seen the ashfool incident clip on channel i

even news reader wonders why a professional captain should react in this way

Rabz
March 16, 2008, 12:11 PM
Im totally with Irteja, Miraz bhai, Germany et all.

The undermining tone towards "garments" worker was not appreciated by me.
Remember, this 2.2 Million "modern-day-slaves-of-globalisation" are the backbone of our economy and are the integral part of the biggest industry of our country.

May be they are not just privileged enough like some of us to go overseas to pursue higher studies and so forth....

Regarding the incident, Ash needs to grow some thick skin. Being the Captain of the biggest sport of the country is not an easy job. There will be ups and down and you'd have to fight thru it and be matured enough the handle all sorts to situations to come victorious on the other side.

Im sure whatever "gali" was uttered, it was not anything Ash has never heard before or havent used himself before, even though in a different context.

But he cant cop it on the chin while the time is bad, he should think of career change.

Public spotlight comes with a price. Not everybody in this country earns 30+ Lacks a year with the adoration of the whole nation.

Ash should have known better.

Rabz
March 16, 2008, 12:16 PM
The only good thing i see:

The whole incident could fire up Ash and he might score three consecutive centuries against the Irish to clinch the series 3-0.

I'd only hope so.

Electrequiem
March 16, 2008, 12:21 PM
What scares me is that SEVEN of us here have agreed that Ash was right in slapping the spectator...

BD Tigers
March 16, 2008, 12:21 PM
no matter what the guy said, ash as most cud/shud only say something back but in no way he shud assault somebody. ICC can take action about this. Remember Inzi??? He got banned for a match or 2 for incident like that.

germany
March 16, 2008, 12:22 PM
ash shd be dropped for this attitude

BD-Shardul
March 16, 2008, 12:24 PM
Boro Bhaiyera,

[বাংলা]আমার মনে হচ্ছে কুকুরের উদাহরণটা নিয়ে misunderstanding হচ্ছে। আমাদের পড়াশোনায় একটা সারাংশ নাকি সারমর্ম ছিল সে কথাটি-কুকুরের কাজ কুকুর করিয়াছে, কামড় দিয়াছেয় পায়, তাই বলে মানুষের কি কুকুরকে কামড়ানো শোভা পায়? বস্তুত কথাটির উপজীব্য কিন্তু কাঊকে কুকুর তুলনা না। বরং এর মানে হল কেউ যদি আপনাকে গালি দেয়, তাহলে প্রতিদানে আপনি তাকে গালি-গালাজ বা প্রহার করবেন না। যদি করেন, তাহলে আপনি তো তার মত অভদ্রই হলেন।[/বাংলা]

So, there is nothing wrong with Omio bhai's analogy. And Fazal Mamu's reply was no cheap shot.

I didn't like at all the way Ashraful reacted. What's the use of his willow then? But then again, I have some sympathy for our captain too. [বাংলা]গার্মেন্ট শ্রমিকদের মুখ যে কত খারাপ হতে পারে, তা আপনারা চিন্তা করতে পারবেন না। তাছাড়া তাদের স্বভাব চরিত্রও এত খারাপ ও আসভ্য ধরণের হয়ে থাকে মানবেতর জীবন-যাপন করলেও গার্মেন্ট শ্রমিকদের প্রতি আমার কোন সমবেদনা নেই।[/বাংলা]

pocha
March 16, 2008, 12:24 PM
I think the spectator deserved it. Nobody has the right to swear by mom or dad. Leave professionalism and all that aside, if I was Ash then I would have done the same or even more. He is not playing well, alright, but it does NOT give you the right to get so personal and get down to the level of swearing.

Are you sure? I mean you are the captain of the side, you are the national hero of our country and this is how you would like to lead by example? You would thrash every person in the gallery who swears at you. No doubt you are setting a great example to your other colleagues and fellow countrymen - the whole world is watching you and probably :o at you.

detroitpagla
March 16, 2008, 12:26 PM
hahaha i would slap lil ashraf back he talks tooo much
chutto mukke borro borro lamba lamba kotha

arafath79
March 16, 2008, 12:27 PM
I would say bhua batsman to Ashraful as well if I was there. Aftar that if Ashraful attempted to slap me I would slap him back twice and if that was not enough for him then i would pull him down on the ground and .......

It was totally Ashrfaul's or Ashrafool's fault, no doubt about it.

thebest
March 16, 2008, 12:29 PM
my point, ash should learn from this experince and outsmart every single person that doubted him.:flag:
after playing six years he did not learn how to bat sensibly. Do you think he would learn. If he is playing in other country (bar sub-continent) he would have been suspended by now.
He is not Dhoni. From a hit-miss player at the moment Dhoni became the best accumulator in One Day cricket.

Miraz
March 16, 2008, 12:32 PM
[বাংলা]আমার মনে হয় বিলাস বহুল ও সুবিধাপূর্ণ জীবন যাপনে অভ্যস্ত আমরা অনেকেই সভ্যতার সাধারণ সীমা অতিক্রম করছি । গার্মেন্টস শ্রমিকদের জেনারালাইজ ভাবে খারাপ ও অসভ্য বলাটা আমাদের নিজেদের ক্ষুদ্রতাকেই নির্দেশ করে । পেশা বা সামাজিক অবস্থান কোন মানুষকে বিচারের মানদন্ড হওয়া উচিত নয় । সেটি কেবলমাত্র গার্মেন্টস শ্রমিকরা তাদের কঠোর পরিশ্রমের মাধ্যমে দেশের অর্থনীতিকে টিকিয়ে রাখছে বলেই নয়, মানুষ হিসাবেও তারা আরো অনেক বেশী সম্মান deserve করে । [/বাংলা]

akabir77
March 16, 2008, 12:33 PM
He(ash) needs to go to a school. I have said this, he is acting like a rastar polpain. And thats why he plays like one too. no in depth. I feel more shame to have a captain like him then a loosing team...

germany
March 16, 2008, 12:34 PM
after playing six years he did not learn how to bat sensibly. Do you think he would learn. If he is playing in other country (bar sub-continent) he would have been suspended by now.
He is not Dhoni. From a hit-miss player at the moment Dhoni is become the best accumulator in One Day cricket.

we never learn - we dont have it our culture - we rather take a nap during the practice

look at the poll, 8 says we should live in the middle age and take law in our hands

SCARY!

germany
March 16, 2008, 12:37 PM
[বাংলা]আমার মনে হয় বিলাস বহুল ও সুবিধাপূর্ণ জীবন যাপনে অভ্যস্ত আমরা অনেকেই সভ্যতার সাধারণ সীমা অতিক্রম করছি । গার্মেন্টস শ্রমিকদের জেনারালাইজ ভাবে খারাপ ও অসভ্য বলাটা আমাদের নিজেদের ক্ষুদ্রতাকেই নির্দেশ করে । পেশা বা সামাজিক অবস্থান কোন মানুষকে বিচারের মানদন্ড হওয়া উচিত নয় । সেটি কেবলমাত্র গার্মেন্টস শ্রমিকরা তাদের কঠোর পরিশ্রমের মাধ্যমে দেশের অর্থনীতিকে টিকিয়ে রাখছে বলেই নয়, মানুষ হিসাবেও তারা আরো অনেক বেশী সম্মান deserve করে । [/বাংলা]

yes we the idiot city minority class
have the bangla cinema'r 'BOROLOK' attitude

without garments people it would never have been a free Bangladesh 1971
wrong education - the result of killing Mujib in 1975
we have to pay the price for another 50 years for it!

cricket_pagol
March 16, 2008, 12:40 PM
Ashrafool is repeatedly proving himself to be very immature... He will have to be stripped of his captaincy sooner or later.

thebest
March 16, 2008, 12:40 PM
[বাংলা]আমার মনে হয় বিলাস বহুল ও সুবিধাপূর্ণ জীবন যাপনে অভ্যস্ত আমরা অনেকেই সভ্যতার সাধারণ সীমা অতিক্রম করছি । গার্মেন্টস শ্রমিকদের জেনারালাইজ ভাবে খারাপ ও অসভ্য বলাটা আমাদের নিজেদের ক্ষুদ্রতাকেই নির্দেশ করে । পেশা বা সামাজিক অবস্থান কোন মানুষকে বিচারের মানদন্ড হওয়া উচিত নয় । সেটি কেবলমাত্র গার্মেন্টস শ্রমিকরা তাদের কঠোর পরিশ্রমের মাধ্যমে দেশের অর্থনীতিকে টিকিয়ে রাখছে বলেই নয়, মানুষ হিসাবেও তারা আরো অনেক বেশী সম্মান deserve করে । [/বাংলা]
Thanks Miraz. I could not said it better. Just remember most of your tution and all of your parents tuition fee is paid by this garments workers and farmers sweat and blood. they contribute for you to become educated; but a good number of you became literate. I think you should understand the difference between educated and literate.
I Demand BCB to suspend Ashraful till investigation on this issue is completed. Similar action should be also taken against Mash if he did it before as someone mentioned.

cricket_pagol
March 16, 2008, 12:44 PM
The only good thing i see:

The whole incident could fire up Ash and he might score three consecutive centuries against the Irish to clinch the series 3-0.

I'd only hope so.

I would like to see ashrafool disciplined for his action (get dropped for a couple of matches)... nothing justifies a physical assault on spectators.

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 12:45 PM
Are you sure? I mean you are the captain of the side, you are the national hero of our country and this is how you would like to lead by example? You would thrash every person in the gallery who swears at you. No doubt you are setting a great example to your other colleagues and fellow countrymen - the whole world is watching you and probably :o at you.

I have said it before, its easier said than done. Here in BC, we can all rant and analyse on what should have been done, what could have been done, etc. We are not facing the heat. Don't misjudge me as supporting Ash's action or Ash himself, but I am just trying to inject some reality.

Ash probably would not have slapped every person in the gallery, nor would I have. But when someone is just saying it after you on your face, more like golay pore boltese...then its not so easy to avoid or refrain yourself from reacting. We can talk all your talks about moral, leadership, shonar chan of nation, leading by example. But sometimes its just not the reality, you would not figure it out until you put yourself in others' situation and try to feel the heat. Its not easy.

When it comes to sledging its different, you know people will try to play mind games with you. Tamim's smile back to Andre Nel was an example. Ash was on his way to practise, after being so demoralized with everything during and after SA series, I don't think he or anybody would be ready to face some gaye poira abusing fan. It must have been very difficult for him to not react. It would have been probably best to not react, but may be that was not possible or realistic in that situation. Wishful thought?

May be we are just not civil or sympathetic enough. We never think what our players must be going through, we fail to show our support for players during their bad times. If we don't get what we want, we just come down to destruction. That's pretty usual in BD I would guess. Our fans are turning out to be no different than Indian or Pak fans.

Navarene
March 16, 2008, 12:54 PM
Sorry to say, but both Ashraful's unprofessional act and Omio's comment are unacceptable. Omio should better edit his comment.

thebest
March 16, 2008, 12:55 PM
i wish our so called golden boys could play in the good old Abahoni-Mohamadon rivelery era. Then they would have learned what is pressure of expectation and level of abuse a player suffer from supporters

akabir77
March 16, 2008, 12:57 PM
Ehsan Bro what i understood from Bdkhea report that the guy who got slapped said Ashraful Bhua. they didn't mention anything about gala gali about his parents. While mash said about the calling his parents name during his incidents not this one.

But pro gets called many things all around the world but u don't see the players attacking the supports quit often. even though its not right to attack the supporters and thats why you see who ever crosses the line gets punished be a cricket player or basket ball. so even though i don't support the supporters behavior but thats not unexpected what unexpected is our captain losing his temper so easily.

akabir77
March 16, 2008, 12:59 PM
i wish our so called golden boys could play in the good old Abahoni-Mohamadon rivelery era. Then they would have learned what is pressure of expectation and level of abuse a player suffer from supporters

thats the problem. they never played in heated situation so they don't know how to act inside or off the filed.

Omio
March 16, 2008, 01:08 PM
Boro Bhaiyera,

[বাংলা]আমার মনে হচ্ছে কুকুরের উদাহরণটা নিয়ে misunderstanding হচ্ছে। আমাদের পড়াশোনায় একটা সারাংশ নাকি সারমর্ম ছিল সে কথাটি-কুকুরের কাজ কুকুর করিয়াছে, কামড় দিয়াছেয় পায়, তাই বলে মানুষের কি কুকুরকে কামড়ানো শোভা পায়? বস্তুত কথাটির উপজীব্য কিন্তু কাঊকে কুকুর তুলনা না। বরং এর মানে হল কেউ যদি আপনাকে গালি দেয়, তাহলে প্রতিদানে আপনি তাকে গালি-গালাজ বা প্রহার করবেন না। যদি করেন, তাহলে আপনি তো তার মত অভদ্রই হলেন।[/বাংলা]

So, there is nothing wrong with Omio bhai's analogy. And Fazal Mamu's reply was no cheap shot.

I didn't like at all the way Ashraful reacted. What's the use of his willow then? But then again, I have some sympathy for our captain too. [বাংলা]গার্মেন্ট শ্রমিকদের মুখ যে কত খারাপ হতে পারে, তা আপনারা চিন্তা করতে পারবেন না। তাছাড়া তাদের স্বভাব চরিত্রও এত খারাপ ও আসভ্য ধরণের হয়ে থাকে মানবেতর জীবন-যাপন করলেও গার্মেন্ট শ্রমিকদের প্রতি আমার কোন সমবেদনা নেই।[/বাংলা]
[বাংলা]ভাই, সবার যদি সেই মাথা থাকতো তাহলে প্রথমেই সেটা বুঝতে পারত। আমি বলতে চেয়েছি কি, আর সবাই বুঝল কি,
আফসোস...[/বাংলা];)

pocha
March 16, 2008, 01:09 PM
Ehsan, you can no way justify the actions of Ash to a common street fighter. Is he not the captain of the side? Question of morality, maturity and common sense are bound to arise when you are leading the side.Remember, he is equally been rewarded with tremedous appreciation and applause by the same fans when he was at the helm of affairs. Now if he cant digest a few abusive comments when he is not performing, he does nt deserve to be the captain and would serve better to be a street fighter. Such fights happen every day in every corner of the street but I dont want our captain to be involved in such fiasco. Yes its a diffiult job, its not a easy thing, its better said than done but thats why he is the captain, he has to lead by example, he is not a commoner.

DJ Sahastra
March 16, 2008, 01:10 PM
Udjaan Bomaar Bishforone Shobai Cricket'er Gordhabder Okal Mrittu. :D

FagunerAgun
March 16, 2008, 01:14 PM
A typical captain...loses his temper on and off the field. What is wrong with him? What he will do if fans burn his effigy as Indian fans did in India for some Indian players?
He needs to learn to cool off in the event of public intimidation.

Dhruvo
March 16, 2008, 01:14 PM
What is wrong with ashraful,okay i understand that the guy abused him but that doesnt mean that he will slap him,this is unacceptable,a captain sowing such bad sportsmanship.

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 01:16 PM
Ehsan Bro what i understood from Bdkhea report that the guy who got slapped said Ashraful Bhua. they didn't mention anything about gala gali about his parents. While mash said about the calling his parents name during his incidents not this one.

I don't think he would lose his cool if somebody calls him "Ashraful Bhua". There is some inconsistency in the report, but judge for yourself.

Bangla version:
[বাংলা] প্রত্যক্ষদর্শীদে � � ভাষ্য অনুযায়ী, মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামের নয় নাম্বার গেট দিয়ে দুপুরে ইনডোরে যাওয়ার সময় দর্শকরা তার উপর গালিগালাজের বৃষ্টি ঝরাচ্ছিলেন। তাতেই মেজাজ হারিয়ে বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক চড়াও হন জালাল নামের এক গার্মেন্টস কর্মীর ওপর। [/বাংলা]

English Version:
Ashraful was on way to the Indoor Complex for practice from the SBNS gym when some 100 spectators, who were watching the final match, called the national team captain 'bhua' (rubbish).

A security guard, however, claimed that the spectators had verbally abused him from a close distance.

But pro gets called many things all around the world but u don't see the players attacking the supports quit often. even though its not right to attack the supporters and thats why you see who ever crosses the line gets punished be a cricket player or basket ball. so even though i don't support the supporters behavior but thats not unexpected what unexpected is our captain losing his temper so easily.

Yes, pros do get called many things. Avoiding his temper would have been ideal. But it was not possible since the spectator was too close to him and harshly* abusing him. That's all my take on this.

* I said harsly because I don't believe calling someone Bhua would provoke them to get to slapping.

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 01:20 PM
Ehsan, you can no way justify the actions of Ash to a common street fighter. Is he not the captain of the side? Question of morality, maturity and common sense are bound to arise when you are leading the side.

I am not justifying his actions. I am just trying to inject some sense of reality in our fans here in BC.

Murad
March 16, 2008, 01:25 PM
Seems like none of us have the patience anymore. Nor the fans nor the players. We are all behaving the same.

Not so long ago we used to criticize the Indian fans for abusing their players, burning effigies, etc. But I think now we have to eat our own words. Very sad indeed.

Rabz
March 16, 2008, 01:30 PM
To be honest, im really hurt to see some of the comments here.
As mentioned by "Thebest", there is a difference between educated and literate.

germany
March 16, 2008, 01:30 PM
I am not justifying his actions. I am just trying to inject some sense of reality in our fans here in BC.

i just saw the whole thing on channel i's camera ...

someone said somethin from the gallery
ash was walking through this passage to the dressing room
he came back at the gellery to slap the man

too cheap - no justification needed
unless you're a fanatic fan of ash

Murad
March 16, 2008, 01:34 PM
One thing I don't understand in this thread.

Did Ashraful say the spectator was a Garment worker thats why he slapped him? I didn't find anything related to this in any of the articles today.

I think we fans have issues as well. We make something out of nothing.

Most of the people here are well educated. And this things are not expected from them, IMO.

If Ash didn't say anything about this or none of the news reported this, howcome we are bringing his ballboy background in this issue?

All I see is they found out later that the boy was a garment worker.

I think this doesn't go with the images of educated people. We have to provide proofs before we talk this low.

Bancan
March 16, 2008, 01:34 PM
Pathetic actions from Ash.
There is video of the incident? Can anyone upload it?

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 01:35 PM
i just saw the whole thing on channel i's camera ...

Did you hear what was exchanged between them? We are too quick to judge and reach a concusion.

What Ash has done is wrong, but what I am saying is that it may not have been possible for him to refrain from reacting. However, but if it was something as simple as "Ashraful Bhua" then I would start using words like "pathetic, stupid, idiotic, cheap, etc. action from Ash"

I will quote murad on this, I think he has summarized it all for us.

Seems like none of us have the patience anymore. Nor the fans nor the players. We are all behaving the same.

Not so long ago we used to criticize the Indian fans for abusing their players, burning effigies, etc. But I think now we have to eat our own words. Very sad indeed.

WarWolf
March 16, 2008, 01:40 PM
Ash needs to be banned for 5 ODIs.

germany
March 16, 2008, 01:43 PM
[QUOTE=Ehsan;650377]Did you hear what was exchanged between them? We are too quick to judge and reach a concusion.

no need to hear anything at all
regardless what a stranger tells you in the gallery
as long as he does not physically attacks you
you should just simply walk away from the spot
cos you are not the captain of our boxing or kung-fu team
you are the captain of our cricket team

pocha
March 16, 2008, 01:47 PM
Ashraful blows his top

Bangladesh cricket team plunged into more trouble on Sunday when captain Mohammad Ashraful reportedly got involved in a scuffle during practice.

On his way to the indoor facilities of the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium, Ashraful had to go through Gallery No 9 on the opposite side of the grand stand and during that long walk, a small group of fans booed the Bangladesh skipper who has been the prime subject of fan-wrath due to the Tigers' poor show in the just-concluded home series against South Africa.

As he entered the walkway of the gallery, two men abused him and out of frustration, the 23-year-old slapped him. A punch-up ensued and by the time the security personnel intervened, the situation turned into the latest sour episode connected with the national side that saw vice-captain Mashrafe Bin Mortaza and two other national players facing punishment following their French leave on Saturday.

......Full Report in daily star: http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=28071

But it is apparent that Ashraful's batting slump and captaincy troubles have spilled on to his off-field demeanour and although upsetting, it doesn't surprise many.

He has been struggling for runs and his captaincy woes are a by-product of that, but this latest episode only confirms that Ashraful, one of the most popular faces in Bangladesh, is under tremendous pressure.

Besides his latest act supported the growing concern that the little right-hander is just not strong enough to tackle the intricacies of a post that requires a cool head.

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Just confirms my thoughts on this. This post requires a cool and matured head not the high handedness shown by Ash.

Murad
March 16, 2008, 01:50 PM
No security for the players.

What the hell the BCB doing? They are just waiting for the money and results but providing no securities for the players.

Anyways.

If Ashraful is proven guilty, he should be punished heavily.

dash
March 16, 2008, 01:50 PM
unfortunate from our skipper.
sometime it happens. we r all human.
we all had fights.
i for once ended up beating up a guy in A GAME ND I HD PAY FOR IT.

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 01:52 PM
no need to hear anything at all
regardless what a stranger tells you in the gallery
as long as he does not physically attacks you
you should just simply walk away from the spot
cos are not the captain of our boxing or kung-fu team
you are the captain of our cricket team

If that's the case then you've a point and Ash should be punished for this. However, the reports kept mentioning from "close distance" which is a bit inconsistent than what you've mentioned. Reading the reports made me feel the fan was probably infront of Ash. Did the video show the full incident? I thought the gallery is protected by grills. How possibly did Ash got this hands throgh the grills to slap him 3-4 times? However, if that's what happened then Ash deserves a severe punishment.

germany
March 16, 2008, 02:01 PM
If that's the case then you've a point and Ash should be punished for this. However, the reports kept mentioning from "close distance" which is a bit inconsistent than what you've mentioned. Reading the reports made me feel the fan was probably infront of Ash. Did the video show the full incident? I thought the gallery is protected by grills. How possibly did Ash got this hands throgh the grills to slap him 3-4 times? However, if that's what happened then Ash deserves a severe punishment.

lets put it in this way ...
not a single newspaper in BD supported ash's act
www.bangladesh.net

ash is simply frustrated and out of his mind
never learnt to admit his own fault
we cannot tolarate this and ruin our cricket
we cannot afford silly experments by our selectors and captain anymore

make JS coach & selector
and Aftab/JO/Razzak as captain
and bring back rafiq

Murad
March 16, 2008, 02:03 PM
make JS coach & selector
and Aftab/JO/Razzak as captain
and bring back rafiq

Like it will solve all the problems we are having now?

germany
March 16, 2008, 02:04 PM
Like it will solve all the problems we are having now?

it will, trust me

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 02:09 PM
here is the story:

িকেকটারেদর েমজাজ হারােনার ঘটনা কমশই বাড়েছ কিদন আেগ পাকিটেস এক দশেকর বঁাকা কথার জবােব সহঅিধনায়ক মাশরািফ িবন মতুজা পিতিকয়া েদিখেয়িছেলন েসই কািহনী েবিশদূর গড়ায়িন তেব কাল অিধনায়ক েমাহামদ আশরাফুলও এক দশেকর সে েখেল েফলেলন অেনক লা এক পিতিকয়াশীল ইিনংস! তারই েজর িহেসেব গালািরেত লািঠ উঁিচেয় দশকেক তাড়ােত পুিলশেক অাকশেন নামেত হয় গালাির েথেক েথেম েথেম অিধনায়েকর নােম েহাাও উেঠ িকে ঝেড়বক িবাপন

কট মােঠ েখলেত েনেম ইদানীং পায়ই ধয হারােছন আশরাফুল আউট হেয় িফের আসেছন চটজলিদ মােঠর বাইেরও অিধনায়ক ধয হািরেয় বসেছন েয!
ঘটনার শুরু কাল দুপুের, িমরপুেরর েহাম অব িকেকেট েডিসংরুম েথেক িকেকট বাগ িনেয় ইনেডাের যােছন আশরাফুল পূবিদেকর েারেবােডর পাশ িদেয় ইনেডাের যাওয়ার েয পথ েসটা পার হিছেলন আশরাফুল আশরাফুলেক আসেত েদেখ গালািরেত কাল আবাহনী-িসিট কােবর টুেয়িট-টুেয়িটর ফাইনাল েদখেত আসা পূবিদেকর গালািরর একটা অংশ চল হেয় ওেঠ ইনেডাের যাওয়ার েয গিল েসখােন দশেকর িভড় বােড় েসসে আশপাশ েথেক উেড় আেস আেজবােজ মব েরিলংেয়র এেকবাের পােশ দঁাড়ােনা এক দশক দিণ আিফকার িবরুে বাংলােদশ দেলর বােজ িকেকট েখলা িনেয় একটু েবিশ বােজ মব কের বেসন েসসে গাল ফুিলেয় বার বার ভুয়া, ভুয়া-িচকাের আশরাফুলেক েিপেয় েতালার েচা কেরন তার েসই েচা েমােটও িবফেল যায়িন িকু অিধনায়ক হঠা কের এমন পিতিকয়া েদিখেয় বসেবন েসজন জালাল নােমর েসই দশক েমােটও পুত িছেলন না শুধু জালাল েকন, েকউ এমন ঘটনার জন পুত িছেলন না আশরাফুল বার বার বােজ মব শুেন িনেজেক আর িহর রাখেত পােরনিন গরম েচােখ তািকেয় যখন কাজ হিছল না তখন েমজাজ পুেরাপুির হািরেয় বেসন িতিন েদৗেড় িগেয় েসই দশেকর (জালাল) কলার েচেপ তার গােল কেয়কটা থাড় কিষেয় েদন িনেজর রাগ ঝােড়ন হঠা আশরাফুল এমন আকমণাতক হেয় উঠেবন-এমন ঘটনার জন গালাির েমােটও পুত িছল না গালািরেত পিতেশাধ েনয়ার পিতিকয়া শুরু হেত েবিশ সময় লােগিন চারপাশ েথেক েদৗেড় েসই িসঁিড়র সামেন ছুেট আেসন দশকরা ঘটনা বােজ িদেক গড়ােছ েদেখ পুিলশও অাকশেন নােম মােঠর একেকানায় থাকা িমিডয়া কিমিটর েচয়ারমান আহেমদ সাাদুল আলম বিব ঘটনাহেল েদৗেড় যান পুিলেশর পাহারায় আশরাফুল ইনেডাের অনুশীলেন যান বিবর সে িবিসিবর কেয়কজন কমকতা দশকেদর শা করার েচা কেরন ি দশকরা ঘটনার িবচার দািব কের পুিলেশর ঊধতন কমকতারা এেস দশকেদর েবাঝােনার েচা চালান এরই মেধ অিত উসাহী এক িসহাপী আশরাফুেলর হােত থাড় খাওয়া দশক জালালেক আটক করার পঁায়তারা শুরু কের এ ঘটনা দশকেদর মেধ আেরা েবিশ পিতিকয়া তির কের েশষেমশ জালালেক েছেড় েদয় পুিলশ খািনকবােদ জালােলর এক অিভভাবক গালািরেত এেস স ঘটনার জন দুঃখ পকাশ কেরন অপমািনত জালালও পুেরা ঘটনার জন অনুতাপ জানায় িনেজর েাভ পকােশর এই ঘটনা এতদূর গিড়েয় যােব-এটা িছল তার ধারণারও বাইের
িমিনট িবেশেকর মেধ ঘটনা িমটমাট হেয় েগেলও আশরাফুল িকু িঠকই িভেলন হেয় রইেলন
সাফল েপেল িকেকটারেদর মাথায় তুেল নােচন দশকরা আবার িকেকটাররা খারাপ পারফরেম করেল তােদর মত বদেল েফলেত েবিশ সময় লােগ না আজািতক িকেকেট বাংলােদেশর এখন বােজ সময় যােছ মােঠর বােজ পারফরেমের জন মােঠর বাইের িকেকটারেদর িবিভ ধরেনর বােজ পিতিকয়া শুনেত হেছ তেব েসই সমােলাচনা, েহাা, েাগান-িকেকটারেদর হজম করার সহ শিও থাকেত হেব
সব সমােলাচনার জবাব িদেত হেব মােঠ ভােলা েখেল মােঠর বাইের মারামাির কের নয়-আশরাফুল শুনেছন?
ভািগস আশরাফুল কালেকর এই কাটা েকােনা আজািতক মােচ ঘটানিন আইিসিস িকেকট মােঠ সহনশীলতার বাপাের ভীষণ কিঠন আজািতক িকেকট চলাকােল েকােনা িকেকটােরর হােত দশক এমনভােব অপমািনত হেল-েসই িকেকটােরর জন কিঠন শাির ববহাপ তির কের েরেখেছ আইিসিস
অিধনায়ক িনচয়ই জােনন আইনটা?

hope you can read it

One World
March 16, 2008, 02:09 PM
I am reading much milder report than those showing on the thread. Anyway as soon ASH will lead the team to a victory, the same fan would like to hug him for a moment.

kaisermatin
March 16, 2008, 02:11 PM
i feel for ash. emotionally charged heads are not for cricket. haba is the best captain we had.

germany
March 16, 2008, 02:16 PM
i feel for ash. emotionally charged heads are not for cricket. haba is the best captain we had.

yes haba was the best unformed captain we ever had
i say this, cos i am a fanatic fan

Murad
March 16, 2008, 02:29 PM
Guys read this news from SHamokal.

They've written exactly what happened.

http://www.shamokal.com/details.php?nid=92554

dash
March 16, 2008, 02:33 PM
yes haba was the best unformed captain we ever had
i say this, cos i am a fanatic fan

look dont act likeash
u cant deny record wise he was the best skipper.
u cant deny he alway not in form

Sovik
March 16, 2008, 02:34 PM
i don't really know what to say. its just shocking.

Murad
March 16, 2008, 02:40 PM
DJNAVED,

Could you give us the link to the article please? I can't read whats written there from your post. Bangla gulo kemon messy hoye ache..

Thanks

germany
March 16, 2008, 02:41 PM
look dont act likeash
u cant deny record wise he was the best skipper.
u cant deny he alway not in form

yes i cant deny his zimb kenya record
and shomman jonok porajoys over top teams
loser mentality didnt take us above #9, did it?

gunda
March 16, 2008, 02:42 PM
any1 got the news clip of this incident?

WarWolf
March 16, 2008, 02:47 PM
it will, trust me
Trust to shobai rei korlam. Player der, selector der lav ki holo? No trust from right now.....

germany
March 16, 2008, 02:48 PM
Trust to shobai rei korlam. Player der, selector der lav ki holo? No trust from right now.....

agree
this will do too

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 02:52 PM
DJNAVED,

Could you give us the link to the article please? I can't read whats written there from your post. Bangla gulo kemon messy hoye ache..

Thanks

amardeshbd.com


different newspapers say different things, but most newspapers are blaming ash

DJ Sahastra
March 16, 2008, 02:57 PM
The passionate fans who hugs you, weep for you, roll on the ground to let you walk over them when you bring gory to their team have ALL THE RIGHT to abuse you when you bring in disgrace.

Anyone who diesn't deserve their retribution doesn't deserve their adulation either and must srictly refuse any aulation coming their way.

mali007
March 16, 2008, 03:17 PM
With this type of UNSPORTING BEHAVIOR , Ash. pronounced himself as an '' OBNOXIOUS
WEED''

HereWeGo
March 16, 2008, 03:18 PM
The passionate fans who hugs you, weep for you, roll on the ground to let you walk over them when you bring gory to their team have ALL THE RIGHT to abuse you when you bring in disgrace.

Anyone who diesn't deserve their retribution doesn't deserve their adulation either and must srictly refuse any aulation coming their way.

N0 the fans dont have the right to abuse the players. Irrespective of how they are performing the cricketers are trying their best and always giving their all for their country. It is just unfair.

If Bangladesher khela is a good sourse than Ashraful actually decided against playing at ICL for 6 crore TK just so that he can play for BD. Would you have done that???

Show respect where due

Gowza
March 16, 2008, 03:22 PM
fans shouldn't abuse players but players shouldn't abuse fans either. unless the fan was trying to deck ashraful i see no reason for him to have been physically violent towards them.

HereWeGo
March 16, 2008, 03:26 PM
fans shouldn't abuse players but players shouldn't abuse fans either. unless the fan was trying to deck ashraful i see no reason for him to have been physically violent towards them.


Than again, If someone comes infront of you and curses your family wat do u do?
In other words u support Zidane's action in the WC finals? Yes or No.

I do not entirely support Ashrafuls action but I am totally opposed to Fans being uncivilised.

Gowza
March 16, 2008, 03:32 PM
i don't think anyone should be physically violent unless they need to defend themselves from someone being physically violent to them. words are just words.

HereWeGo
March 16, 2008, 03:35 PM
i don't think anyone should be physically violent unless they need to defend themselves from someone being physically violent to them. words are just words.

Agree

irteja
March 16, 2008, 03:52 PM
[বাংলা]আমার মনে হয় বিলাস বহুল ও সুবিধাপূর্ণ জীবন যাপনে অভ্যস্ত আমরা অনেকেই সভ্যতার সাধারণ সীমা অতিক্রম করছি । গার্মেন্টস শ্রমিকদের জেনারালাইজ ভাবে খারাপ ও অসভ্য বলাটা আমাদের নিজেদের ক্ষুদ্রতাকেই নির্দেশ করে । পেশা বা সামাজিক অবস্থান কোন মানুষকে বিচারের মানদন্ড হওয়া উচিত নয় । সেটি কেবলমাত্র গার্মেন্টস শ্রমিকরা তাদের কঠোর পরিশ্রমের মাধ্যমে দেশের অর্থনীতিকে টিকিয়ে রাখছে বলেই নয়, মানুষ হিসাবেও তারা আরো অনেক বেশী সম্মান deserve করে । [/বাংলা]
:up:

cricket_pagol
March 16, 2008, 04:14 PM
i don't think anyone should be physically violent unless they need to defend themselves from someone being physically violent to them. words are just words.

Agree with you 100% ... Ashraful's physical attack on the spectator cannot be justified under any circumstances. It was not OK for Zidane to do it... it was not OK for Inzamam to hit a spectator with a bat and it is not Ok for ashraful to attacka spectator.

I am really worried that the board is not taking any action about this... Ashraful needs to get some form of punishment... otherwise, I worry that our players will think it is OK to attack spectators or bystanders when they are really frustrated.

pocha
March 16, 2008, 04:20 PM
Agree with you 100% ... Ashraful's physical attack on the spectator cannot be justified under any circumstances. It was not OK for Zidane to do it... it was not OK for Inzamam to hit a spectator with a bat and it is not Ok for ashraful to attacka spectator.

I am really worried that the board is not taking any action about this... Ashraful needs to get some form of punishment... otherwise, I worry that our players will think it is OK to attack spectators or bystanders when they are really frustrated.

Our board is incapable and and dont have a brain just like Ashdafool. I am sure they will try to dhamachapa the matter and no action will be taken. Bad precedent.

Murad
March 16, 2008, 04:34 PM
Look at this news from prothom alo.

They asked some spectators about the situation.

One boy said: They boy was calling ASh bhua in his ears thats why he slapped him.

Another boy said: No No. That boy was pulling his jersery and stopped him. And then put his hand on ASh's shoulder and calling him "bhua bhua". Then ash slapped him.

Then another Old guy came in and slapped Jamal for touching AShraful. That guy was Jamal's relative. " Do you know Who AShraful is? He's the captain of Bangladesh TEam. How dare you touch him" That was the reaction from the old man after slapping him.

http://www.prothom-alo.com/mcat.news.details.php?nid=ODkwODc=&mid=OA==

Sohel
March 16, 2008, 04:48 PM
The lack of stadium security was obviously pretty hairy and needs to be addressed, but the way Mr. Jamal behaved and the way Ash responded were equally hairy and unacceptable, period. The matter needs to be investigated and all parties brought within the letter and spirit of ICC/ACC/BCB Codes of Conduct.

A part of being a national icon is listening to those better voices inside yourself, both on and off the pitch. This IS cricket after all.

bulbul_fan
March 16, 2008, 04:55 PM
what da hell that big mouth owner ash thinks of himself..............he sjould be dropped completely unless he gains some basic knowledge about cricket and go to school (primary) to learn to respect others.........................
its like u spit on me , I vomite on you!

dash
March 16, 2008, 05:00 PM
yes i cant deny his zimb kenya record
and shomman jonok porajoys over top teams
loser mentality didnt take us above #9, did it?

well it was better than ever.
we did beat india, aus, sri,sa.
ran aus for their mone.

before that we use to strugle to beat kenya.
start giving ppl the respect they deserve

dash
March 16, 2008, 05:03 PM
ash should have behaved properly.
sometime ppl loose control.
inzi beat up a guy if i remember,
symo recently clobered a streaker

al Furqaan
March 16, 2008, 05:03 PM
There are some cases it doesn't matter. And this the perfect case to me where "It doesn't matter" what kind of vulgar comments/language the public used. Its not about defending that public.


Regardless whatever he said, this kind of reaction by a professional player (physically attacking) is not acceptable in any country, and it should be true for Bangladesh also. If a player react physically to verbal abuse (by fans), they always get banned, sometimes for extended time.

There is no other side of the story for this case. The only thing they can question is to validate if Ash really physically abused that guy or not.

amra eto bhodro jati kobe holam? amake to ey memo pathano hoi nai...na hole amio khub bhodro bhabe behave kortam. :-p

Zobair
March 16, 2008, 05:05 PM
hmm...if there was NO "physical" provocation i.e. touching/poking/leaning/shouting obscenities 6 inches from his face then Ash would be completely in the wrong. In my book, hecklers are welcome to vent their feelings as much as they want as long they respect someone's "personal space" (case in point the spectator calling Inzimam an "aloo" from the stands and nearly getting his face based in by the big man - the big man was wrong to rush into the stands). If there was some form of "physical" provocation then I am afraid that is a mitigating circumstance.

Not withstanding this episode, I hope Ash pulls himself together and focuses on his cricket.

Murad
March 16, 2008, 05:11 PM
Ash er shirt pull kora then ghaare hhaat diye galagali kora.. ki physical attack na?

dash
March 16, 2008, 05:12 PM
Look at this news from prothom alo.

They asked some spectators about the situation.

One boy said: They boy was calling ASh bhua in his ears thats why he slapped him.

Another boy said: No No. That boy was pulling his jersery and stopped him. And then put his hand on ASh's shoulder and calling him "bhua bhua". Then ash slapped him.

Then another Old guy came in and slapped Jamal for touching AShraful. That guy was Jamal's relative. " Do you know Who AShraful is? He's the captain of Bangladesh TEam. How dare you touch him" That was the reaction from the old man after slapping him.



http://www.prothom-alo.com/mcat.news.details.php?nid=ODkwODc=&mid=OA==

look if prothom alos versions is true.
he has clearly done it in self defence, every one has that rite.
nd i had done it before while i was harased in a game nd put a hole on the bloody ...... face. nd i wld do the same if situation arises.
symo clobered a streaker recently.

worrying thing is how media nd the fans have gone against the team.
the team needs support when they r down not they r winning.
bd fans will back plyers in their wins but not on their bad days when the support counts most.

look at anfield, old traford, san siro. y it is so difficult to visit these places. coz of their fans who lifts their team. but for bd plying in home is getting more difficult than playing away

Dawah
March 16, 2008, 05:16 PM
It is the fault of the selectors to keep such an immature player like Ashrafool as the BD captain. Saqibul Hasan or Sahriah Nafees would be a MUCH better choice.

al Furqaan
March 16, 2008, 05:17 PM
I think the spectator deserved it. Nobody has the right to swear by mom or dad. Leave professionalism and all that aside, if I was Ash then I would have done the same or even more. He is not playing well, alright, but it does NOT give you the right to get so personal and get down to the level of swearing.

if i was the fan, i would have indeed called ashraful 'bhua' cuz he epitomized that in the SA series.

if i was ash, i woulda smacked the man.

conclusion: ash is definitely immature, his batting proves that, will he mature is question? i don't doubt that ash (and the rest of the boys) are classy individuals at heart, so lets forget about this as we forgot about tamim punching talha.

al Furqaan
March 16, 2008, 05:19 PM
The passionate fans who hugs you, weep for you, roll on the ground to let you walk over them when you bring gory to their team have ALL THE RIGHT to abuse you when you bring in disgrace.

Anyone who diesn't deserve their retribution doesn't deserve their adulation either and must srictly refuse any aulation coming their way.

spot on!

Ehsan
March 16, 2008, 05:22 PM
if i was the fan, i would have indeed called ashraful 'bhua' cuz he epitomized that in the SA series.


I called him bhua in a match thread, that is acceptable. But getting personal and swearing is not.

I will refrain from commenting further on this thread, as I think a lot more digging needs to be done about what actually happened. No point just speculating, as a result of which this page has reached 4 pages. BCB needs to do an investigation.

dash
March 16, 2008, 05:23 PM
guyz read palo,

they hv a different story
as the best selling bd nwz paper i wld believe them

dash
March 16, 2008, 05:24 PM
bcb is responsible for not hving enuff security

Sohel
March 16, 2008, 05:30 PM
Here's the Daily New Age report.

Ashraful lashes out!
Staff Correspondent

For better or worse, the fans have always stood by the national cricketers. But it seems even they have reached their breaking-point especially as the performance of the Tigers during the South Africa series hit new lows every time they took to the field.

Their frustration however boiled over on Sunday and caused beleaguered Bangladesh captain Mohammad Ashraful, who was on the receiving end during the Test and ODI whitewash against the Proteas, to finally snap and he lashed out at a fan at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium after he was jeered.

Witnesses said, fans, who were watching the Premier Twenty20 Cricket final in the gallery, started booing when they saw Ashraful walking past them through a narrow gate inside the stadium on his way to the adjacent indoor complex for net practice.

The Bangladesh captain kept put his gears on the stairs before jumping into the gallery and grabbing the fan by the scruff of the neck and slapped the poor fellow before anyone realised anything had happened. The fan was later identified as Jalal, a garments worker in Mirpur.

Police and the officials of the Bangladesh Cricket Board quickly intervened and took Ashraful away from the agitated fans. But it did not calm the situation as they started chanting slogans and demanded an unconditional apology from Ashraful.

Police immediately nabbed Jalal but were forced to release him to pacify the mob, who continued to agitate. Police however kept Jalal’s identity card. A guardian of Jalal rushed to the stadium hearing the news and apologised to Ashraful on his behalf. Jalal also said sorry later and promised not to boo the cricketer in future.

Ashraful particularly came under the wrath of the fans after scoring just 17 runs in three-match one-day series against South Africa that ended on February 14. Ashraful declined to comment on the incident.

Last week, vice-captain Mashrafee bin Murtaza was also involved in an altercation with a fan who had been watching him from the other side of the fence when he was bowling in the nets.

DNA LINK (http://www.newagebd.com/spt.html)

irteja
March 16, 2008, 05:43 PM
ঘটনা নিয়ে আরেকটি ইন্টারেস্টিং রিপোর্ট বাংলাদেশের খেলা ওয়েব সাইটে
সুত্র (http://www.bangladesherkhela.info/index.php?newsID=5618&pageTitle=details&editionID=300)

Sohel
March 16, 2008, 05:53 PM
Wo' ! Fix your post Irteja. We're looking at Greek !

An opinion on the DNA report. That paper was founded by my late step-dad, Enayetullah Khan, and is proudly biased towards the disenfranchised. That said, my cousin Almer runs the paper and he's more than fair in the way his reporters gather and report the news.

I believe the report is authentic at this stage ... :)

Spitfire_x86
March 16, 2008, 05:54 PM
Prothom Alo's version of the incident

http://www.prothom-alo.com/mcat.news.details.php?nid=ODkwODc=&mid=OA==

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/106/ashfh0.png

Sohel
March 16, 2008, 06:01 PM
Here's THE ITTEFAQ (http://www.ittefaq.com/content/2008/03/17/news0632.htm) report. Seems consistent with every report - including from the DS (http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=28071) - other than PA's, and to a lesser extent, Shaumokal's.

I don't think cricket reporting in PA has ever been fair, thanks to guys like US, and I've never been a fan of Shaumokal either. Then again, they could be right this time.

My bet's on DS, DNA and Ittefaq. I think it was the sort of insane rush of blood we've seen all too often in the middle.

akabir77
March 16, 2008, 06:02 PM
after reading prothom-alo, shamokal i am kinda changing my position. If some one puts their hand on any part of my body then i have the rite to defend my self. it thats the case here i think Ash did the right thing... Though i think he should have avoided the whole thing by calling police or something.

One thing for sure BD supporters r becoming more and more like u know who. Most of them r like our team no in depth knowledge or love for cricket but follows cause thats the only thing they r some what good at compare to intl level...

habfreak
March 16, 2008, 06:33 PM
this is what happens when u rush players into roles they are not ready for.
In a perfect world Ashraful should have made the team when he was 22, not 17. He should have been made the captain at 28 not 23, in a perfect world he should have just walked past the fans or make a witty comment, not go after them!
But this is not a perfect world..the harsh reality is that we can't afford to wait thsoe extra 5 years...or maybe we could...only if we were more patient...the selectors, the players and the Fans too.

nahaz
March 16, 2008, 06:36 PM
I find it hard to believe Ash would slap someone just because he got called "Bhua". I mean, that just defies logic. The guy must have touched him physically or said sth else really bad. If the guy really did pull his jersey and say sth, he had the right to hit him in retaliation.I would have, no matter who he is- a garments worker or dhonir chele. I don't think there was any tag on him saying " I am a garments worker".

If the guy just abused him verbally,however, I think the reply should be verbal too. maybe he just got too intimidated by the crowd. It would not justify a slap though.
Remember how Symonds once shoved some guy with a bat when he was coming back to the dressing room after scoring a test century? The guy just wanted to slap him on the back to congrautlate him. Symonds did not get into trouble. Security did, however.

My question is- what the heck were the security guys doing? And it's just idiotic to abuse players coz of bad performance.. Mash should have slapped that guy who talked about his parents. He showed maturity by not doing so.
If Bangladesh lose now, I'll put it down to pressure from the fans. This is going way too far -the abuse. Even in this forum.

akabir77
March 16, 2008, 07:06 PM
hope this will finally fire up Ash

Ajfar
March 16, 2008, 07:11 PM
hope this will finally fire up Ash

we been hoping for that all this time...u think it will happen now???

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 07:51 PM
I'm kinda confused. Some newspapers said that that spectator said only one word and that's " bhua" Other newspapers said that that spectator said some bad languages and physically touched ash's jersey.

Now that spectator says that, " i only said Vua Vua.. Ash vai was close to me. But why did he slap me?"


:confused:

pocha
March 16, 2008, 08:12 PM
Cricinfo staff

March 16, 2008

Mohammad Ashraful, Bangladesh's captain, was embroiled in a row when he was accused of scuffling with two men during the team's practice session at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium.

Reports say that Ashraful, who is under pressure following some poor results, got into an altercation with two men after returning from a practice session - he had already been booed by some spectators - which ended up with security guards having to intervene. As a result, security was increased for all players.

The news came shortly after it was announced that Mashrafe Mortaza, the vice captain, and two other members of the national squad were facing disciplinary action after going absent on Saturday to play in a match.

"We have to get the reports from team management to know what actually happened regarding these players," Sajjadul Alam Bobby, chairman of the BCB media committee, told reporters. "That's why we have asked our team manager to submit a report within a short time. We will definitely take action if they are found guilty."

© Cricinfo

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/bdeshvireland/content/story/342766.html

abdulmukit
March 16, 2008, 08:43 PM
!!!i wouldve be happy if ash couldve do the same to de selectors!!!
mybe he will after de ireland seriese

Beamer
March 16, 2008, 09:27 PM
According to PA, Mr.Jalal also got a beating by the murubbi for slapping the Captain. Chalak attio! Saved him from police arrest by managing the situation himself. towba porjonto koraise.

Nocturnal
March 16, 2008, 09:36 PM
Picture source- bangladesher khela

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/0259b4cd88.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

djnaved
March 16, 2008, 09:48 PM
According to PA, Mr.Jalal also got a beating by the murubbi for slapping the Captain. Chalak attio! Saved him from police arrest by managing the situation himself. towba porjonto koraise.

Mr. Jalal didn't slap the captain, the captain slapped that guy...

Fazal
March 16, 2008, 09:54 PM
Who Slapped whom?
And who is sleeping with whom?
And why Ash is smiling in the picture. I thought he was mad.

Too confusing....

btw another version of the story by newAgeBD


Witnesses said, fans, who were watching the Premier Twenty20 Cricket final in the gallery, started booing when they saw Ashraful walking past them through a narrow gate inside the stadium on his way to the adjacent indoor complex for net practice.
The Bangladesh captain kept put his gears on the stairs before jumping into the gallery and grabbing the fan by the scruff of the neck and slapped the poor fellow before anyone realised anything had happened. The fan was later identified as Jalal, a garments worker in Mirpur.
Police and the officials of the Bangladesh Cricket Board quickly intervened and took Ashraful away from the agitated fans. But it did not calm the situation as they started chanting slogans and demanded an unconditional apology from Ashraful.
Police immediately nabbed Jalal but were forced to release him to pacify the mob, who continued to agitate. Police however kept Jalal’s identity card. A guardian of Jalal rushed to the stadium hearing the news and apologised to Ashraful on his behalf. Jalal also said sorry later and promised not to boo the cricketer in future.

Nocturnal
March 16, 2008, 10:02 PM
dailystar photo -
THAT WATER SHOULD BE COLD: Bangladesh captain Mohammad Ashraful walks into the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium from the indoors under police protection, half-an-hour after he was involved in a fracas with a fan yesterday. Photo: STAR
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/6d626c7e87.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

nobody
March 16, 2008, 10:23 PM
I do not care who provoked whom. I want BCB to sack ash the fool as a capatin of national team and suspend him from all kind BCB sponsor cricket tournament. If he want to play ICL - let him go there. The most overrated player in cricket history.

Kabir
March 16, 2008, 11:28 PM
Haire kopal...ei khobor shunar jonno BC te login korsi naki?

I'm planning to take a leave from BD cricket...and rightly so I guess!

cricket_king
March 17, 2008, 12:05 AM
I don't believe this. Mashrafe should've pummelled the guy who talked about his parents! Poor Ashraful will be under a lot of stress already. Why do these idiotic spectators even watch cricket?

wiseshah
March 17, 2008, 12:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT7ttTy29KQ

wath ash's new ad.

wiseshah
March 17, 2008, 12:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzzUkwF5d0Q


watch ash and beautiful tinni

BANFAN
March 17, 2008, 01:24 AM
If it was a comment from a distance/Gallary/behind a fence, that was acceptable. But how can some one tollerate even 'bhooa' when some one tells it on his face? Then he definitely demands a reply. It woldn't be nice for Ash to be in quarrel with that fan or be beaten by the fans. Ash had to make a reaction to disengage from that situation and i think he has done the right thing. More over it says that it was a dark passage, Fans shouting all around him 'bhoa' and approaching towards him, just like any one else, he might have been scared and hit him too.

If that guy have touched him, Ash has many justified reasons to react the way he did. I don't believe some people in BC are demanding his removal. Crazy

--------------

His psyche is "He tries to hit sixes when he is scared of the bowling and can't read it well." :-) That ofcourse is not ok, probably he needs to change that.

Rabz
March 17, 2008, 01:38 AM
You cant make a man out of a boy.

nahaz
March 17, 2008, 01:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzzUkwF5d0Q


watch ash and beautiful tinni

Man, that show is soo BAD! Now I remember why I never (almost) watched TV in Bd..
Ash really is very shorol. U can tell...simple character. Maybe Humayun Ahmed should make him a character. Hope he doesn't get married soon. His wife would make all his decisions.

Antora
March 17, 2008, 02:10 AM
:floor::floor: ok ok I know i shouldn't be laughing... but ... i can't help it.

on a serious note..... this is totally unexceptable especially being a captain. a lot of youngsters look up to Ash ( including my brother:hairpull:) isn't he being such a great role model? But then again... fans these days!:mad:

I just can't belive Ash did this....he is the one who is shy of girls ( haha chance 50/50)
seems like a very quite person and now this!!!!! wow!!! very shocking!

AND WHY IS ASH SMILING IN THAT PIC?:mad::-/

Nocturnal
March 17, 2008, 03:08 AM
Here we go- Ashrafool made an apology today for yestarday's unwanted incident in the press conf. today before the BD-Ireland series starts (didn't find any eng news source as of now):

[বাংলা]ক্ষমা চাইলেন আশরাফুল
ঢাকা, ১৭ মার্চ (বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম) --- মেজাজ হারিয়ে এক দর্শকের গায়ে হাত তোলার ঘটনায় ক্ষমা চেয়েছেন মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুল। সোমবার আয়ারল্যান্ডের বিপক্ষে প্রথম ওয়ানডে উপলক্ষে আয়োজিত সংবাদ সম্মেলনের আগে সাংবাদিকদের তিনি বলেন, " গতকাল (রোববার) প্র্যাকটিস শুরুর আগে যে ঘটনাটা ঘটেছে তা ছিল অনিচ্ছাকৃত একটা ঘটনা। সবার প্রতি অনুরোধ, এটা আপনারা ক্ষমাসুন্দর দৃষ্টিতে দেখবেন। আমি ক্ষমা চাচ্ছি। আশা করি, এমন ঘটনা আর কখনো ঘটবে না। আসলে সমর্থক আর আমরা তো চাচ্ছি ক্রিকেটকে এগিয়ে নিতে। আমি চাই সে চেষ্টাটা অব্যাহত থাকুক।"

প্রত্যক্ষদর্শীদে মতে, রোববার দুপুরে মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামের নয় নাম্বার গেট দিয়ে ইনডোরে যাওয়ার সময় দর্শকরা আশরাফুলের উদ্দেশ্যে কটুক্তি করতে থাকেন। তাতে মেজাজ হারিয়ে বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক চড়াও হন জালাল নামের এক গার্মেন্টস কর্মীর ওপর। তাকে গোটাতিনেক চড়-থাপ্পড় মারেন আশরাফুল। দর্শকরা এতে ফুঁসে উঠলে পুলিশ তাদের নিয়ন্ত্রণে আনে। [/বাংলা]

desirocker
March 17, 2008, 03:22 AM
Ashraful has destroyed the reputation of the cricket. We don't want him as your captain.

mahbubH
March 17, 2008, 04:14 AM
Ashraful is now a very mature cricketer, he knows what he is doing. Within few days he will be our hero again after hitting few 40+ scores against mighty Ireland!

Actullay I am not surprised at all at the Ashraful's behaviour.

WarWolf
March 17, 2008, 04:15 AM
Haire kopal...ei khobor shunar jonno BC te login korsi naki?

I'm planning to take a leave from BD cricket...and rightly so I guess!
I bet you won't be able to...

Lavauk
March 17, 2008, 04:33 AM
Fazal bhai Kind Request PLEASE change your AVTAR its looks terrible more like kick in the face what kind of avtar is that everytime i see your foot avtar its very annoying bro,
thanks for listening

Lavauk
March 17, 2008, 04:44 AM
Ashraful has destroyed the reputation of the cricket. We don't want him as your captain.
We bengalis are very sentimental why angry with ash he has acted wrongly BCB should punish him but we public stay calm ash having terrible time in cricket also in private life as far as i know him,pls give this guy a break if you were captain what will you do?
think before you make further comments,iam waiting for ireland results if we win and ash
make good scores then we all have to eat our word thats for sure,wait and seeeeee

Sohel
March 17, 2008, 04:56 AM
Here we go- Ashrafool made an apology today for yestarday's unwanted incident in the press conf. today before the BD-Ireland series starts (didn't find any eng news source as of now):

[বাংলা]ক্ষমা চাইলেন আশরাফুল
ঢাকা, ১৭ মার্চ (বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম) --- মেজাজ হারিয়ে এক দর্শকের গায়ে হাত তোলার ঘটনায় ক্ষমা চেয়েছেন মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুল। সোমবার আয়ারল্যান্ডের বিপক্ষে প্রথম ওয়ানডে উপলক্ষে আয়োজিত সংবাদ সম্মেলনের আগে সাংবাদিকদের তিনি বলেন, " গতকাল (রোববার) প্র্যাকটিস শুরুর আগে যে ঘটনাটা ঘটেছে তা ছিল অনিচ্ছাকৃত একটা ঘটনা। সবার প্রতি অনুরোধ, এটা আপনারা ক্ষমাসুন্দর দৃষ্টিতে দেখবেন। আমি ক্ষমা চাচ্ছি। আশা করি, এমন ঘটনা আর কখনো ঘটবে না। আসলে সমর্থক আর আমরা তো চাচ্ছি ক্রিকেটকে এগিয়ে নিতে। আমি চাই সে চেষ্টাটা অব্যাহত থাকুক।"

প্রত্যক্ষদর্শীদে মতে, রোববার দুপুরে মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামের নয় নাম্বার গেট দিয়ে ইনডোরে যাওয়ার সময় দর্শকরা আশরাফুলের উদ্দেশ্যে কটুক্তি করতে থাকেন। তাতে মেজাজ হারিয়ে বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক চড়াও হন জালাল নামের এক গার্মেন্টস কর্মীর ওপর। তাকে গোটাতিনেক চড়-থাপ্পড় মারেন আশরাফুল। দর্শকরা এতে ফুঁসে উঠলে পুলিশ তাদের নিয়ন্ত্রণে আনে। [/বাংলা]

Thanks Noc.

The boy apologized and that's a good move. I hope this will teach him to keep his ego and mood swings under a tighter leash, both on and off the field. Anyway, BCB should still look into it and do what they must as per the CoC.

On a positive note, is this the much awaited turning point ? ... :D

PS: Looks like the DNA and DS reports were right after all, while PA and Shaumokal over-emphasized the words of just one witness who questionably made the claim of Mr. Jalal making physical contact before Ash lost his temper. Apparently, Mr. Jalal just said bhua (rubbish, useless, fraud) and that, alongside whatever it is that played inside Ash's mind at the time, was enough for him to be singled out and be at the recieving end of the Captain's wrath.

simon
March 17, 2008, 05:30 AM
I think it's not right to blame Ash without knowing the truth.
It can be the supporter who touched him with some bad words & Ash slapped him.:-/
Or it can be the supporter who slapped Ash according to the news article when the
guardian blaims Jamal.
And it's the supprtrs who took the first wrong step. If we keep on blaiming the crktrs instead of the spprtrs then they will create violence like in India after WC2007.
And the reputation BD had with their spprtrs will be gone.:-P
For the moment we can blaim the security.:flag:

abu2abu
March 17, 2008, 05:35 AM
I think we are getting a bit carried away here. The headline "captain slaps spectator" sounds pretty bad, but when you look at the detail, the reality is quite different. Ash apparently slapped a young "garment worker". BD (like most of south asia) is a patriarchal and hierarchical society and it's not uncommon for an older man to hit a youngster (perhaps from a humble background) for being insolent. I've seen it many times, not just in the grams but in the cities too.

I'm not saying it's right, but I think when you learn the detail it's not fair to be too harsh on Ash. He's obviously under a lot of pressure (most of which he's brought upon himself by accepting the captaincy and then underperforming) and he needs to control his temper. But we should look at both sides. For example, we don't exactly know what the boy said to ash.

The boy/fan's behaviour should be examined too. If I got as close as that to ash, I would consider myself lucky and would ask for batting tips, thoughts on selection etc rather than giving him abuse. Regardless of how badly BD are performing it is unacceptable to use coarse and offensive language.

zainab
March 17, 2008, 07:17 AM
All two sided stories. Does anyone know the real truth? Anyhow, very glad that Ash ate humble pie and apologised. he is under a great deal of pressure. He is frusrated with himself, know that he is a good batsman, but out of form, has let his team and the country down, his self confidence is at its lowest ebb, he has always been popular, now he is being booed and hassled and I believe that he cracked up. After all, he is a human being, not made out of stone.
I feel everyone should be forgiven for a mistake. Ash has devoted his young life to cricket, not for his own glory but for Bangladesh. If everyone asks for his head, he might just get fed up, and tell BD to go to hell, I will play for the ICL, but knowing the person he is, he will not do that, he will just stomach this and carry on.
His self esteem is at its lowest at the moment, as if he is asking himself" What am I worth?" to myself and to anyone.

Ajfar
March 17, 2008, 09:00 AM
he apologised...i saw it in the morning news..but i had to leave for class...if i can i'll record it for u guys tonight..

gunda
March 17, 2008, 09:12 AM
Hahah all this fiasco is more entertaining than watching bd play cricket..

Ishtylish cricketer
March 17, 2008, 09:21 AM
Ashraful can't bat, can't bowl, can't field, can't captain, can't even take harsh words from crowd. It begs the most obvious question: "why is he the skipper of BD?".

Aritro
March 17, 2008, 09:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzzUkwF5d0Q


watch ash and beautiful tinni

Hahaha.

zainab
March 17, 2008, 09:52 AM
Ashraful can't bat, can't bowl, can't field, can't captain, can't even take harsh words from crowd. It begs the most obvious question: "why is he the skipper of BD?".


Why dont you ask the BCB? they may give you the answers.

Fazal
March 17, 2008, 10:15 AM
Fazal bhai Kind Request PLEASE change your AVTAR its looks terrible more like kick in the face what kind of avtar is that everytime i see your foot avtar its very annoying bro,
thanks for listening


Why? whats wrong with the feet? This is also one of the important and god gifted body part of Human.

Plus why you think the avatr looks like kicking someone? Actually its opposite, after hard work those legs are resting and enjoying a good break. To me they look pretty innocent to me.

Why discriminate against legs? Ora kee manusher gurutto Purno aungo na? If you still don't see the benifit of legs, then ask a lengra or a khora, they will tell you how important body part it is.

Fazal
March 17, 2008, 11:14 AM
Why will some one ask for forgiveness unless he have done some mistake?

Its good to see that atleast Ash sees his fault where some of his fans sees "no evil" and still agruing for the sake of it and trying to creat smoke screen.

Kudos to Ash for admiting his fault. Thats the first step. Only then he can go further to recover his lost dignity.

Baundule
March 17, 2008, 12:58 PM
Unfortunately, it's our system that does not allow a player to be professional.
Too much politics is involved everywhere, the selection of players are biased, the officials are misplaced, the coaches take the easier route of satisfying their employers than doing the actual job.

From such a system, we can not expect creating a professional cricketer. Ashraful is no exception.

RezOne
March 17, 2008, 02:07 PM
Ashraful should be suspended. No question about it. There's no room for behavior like that no matter what a fan says. It's part of being a professional and letting things go. Perhaps Ashraful was frustrated about his recent performance and his team's performance. Anyway, Ashraful should be suspended for a few game and his salary should be docked for those games.

Beamer
March 17, 2008, 02:32 PM
Time to move on. He has apologized unconditionally. Matches against the Irish couldn't have come any sooner. They need to re focus on the task at hand. These Irish are no pushovers. They will battle hard every game. Its a common trait in every Irish sporting team.

Nocturnal
March 17, 2008, 02:38 PM
Very matured move by Ash this time. He has apologized unconditionally. Now concentrate on Cricket plz. He will do good in this series....IMO. He got his much needed turning point- time to prove again, this is very common with Ash-remember that double hundred in NCL while he was dropped from the side!!

Imtiaz
March 17, 2008, 05:12 PM
If this was any other country, the police would have made enquiries by now. With our "classist" attitude [ Ashraful, of course, has now gone up the ladder ! ], slapping a "common" man will be safely ignored. I cannot imagine if Vaughan or Ponting slapped an onlooker no matter how much they were provoked !

pocha
March 17, 2008, 05:39 PM
Ashrafool should apologize to the person he slapped not to public in general. This is BD so he will get away anyway.

AsifTheManRahman
March 17, 2008, 06:01 PM
If this was any other country, the police would have made enquiries by now. With our "classist" attitude [ Ashraful, of course, has now gone up the ladder ! ], slapping a "common" man will be safely ignored. I cannot imagine if Vaughan or Ponting slapped an onlooker no matter how much they were provoked !

Let's see if the BCB does take any action against him. With so many different versions of the story in the media, they are the only ones who can really get to the bottom of this and do justice to both parties.

zainab
March 17, 2008, 06:21 PM
Ashraful should be suspended. No question about it. There's no room for behavior like that no matter what a fan says. It's part of being a professional and letting things go. Perhaps Ashraful was frustrated about his recent performance and his team's performance. Anyway, Ashraful should be suspended for a few game and his salary should be docked for those games.

Really! there are 2 sides to a coin always.

LateCut
March 17, 2008, 06:26 PM
He is just a baby. He should be forgiven. A "retro-active immunity" law should be inacted if BCB does not have legal means to let it slide. How can we punish the prince of cricket. I would also sit him out the Ireland series. Would not be nice to make him watch the game from the stand without police protection.

irteja
March 18, 2008, 12:11 PM
চুপ থাকা উচিত ছিল 72.73%

Miraz
March 18, 2008, 12:18 PM
Now, who wants to be the next Jalal? When are we facing another big gun at home??

Jalal in fact mistimed the incident... a similar incident before the South Africa series would have been better.. ;)

Fazal
March 18, 2008, 12:24 PM
Jalal in fact mistimed the incident... a similar incident before the South Africa series would have been better.. ;)

As the end result would have been the same with SA, Jalal would only replace Belal as the culprit for the failure.

Miraz
March 18, 2008, 12:28 PM
As the end result would have been the same with SA, Jalal would only replace Belal as the culprit for the failure.

Nope!! ei lal sei lal na.... Jaa...lal... moner vitore jalano porano ekta anuvuti.. and Ashraful back with a bang!!

Be...lal.... kono lal nai ....be (nai) lal jar => belal... mone kono jala nai porao nai... and Ashraful went to the cold.

:)

Sohel
March 18, 2008, 12:31 PM
I pray THIS is the turning-point we've all been looking for.

Thanks Mr. J.

irteja
March 18, 2008, 12:47 PM
Nope!! ei lal sei lal na.... Jaa...lal... moner vitore jalano porano ekta anuvuti.. and Ashraful back with a bang!!

Be...lal.... kono lal nai ....be (nai) lal jar => belal... mone kono jala nai porao nai... and Ashraful went to the cold.


:)
:-D:-D

auntu
March 18, 2008, 01:22 PM
as per prothom alo that boy not only 'gala gali' him but also jama dhore did tanatani also

(how is the banglish?)

Dawah
March 18, 2008, 03:56 PM
as per prothom alo that boy not only 'gala gali' him but also jama dhore did tanatani also

(how is the banglish?)

:-D perfect hoiche

Tigers_eye
March 18, 2008, 04:09 PM
As this seems an unconditional apology I think he is not over this matter yet. Ash can't move forward.
For beamer, check this out from Daily star:
http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=28392
The 23-year old Ashraful was not only reluctant to acknowledge the crowds after making fifty as he raised his bat towards the dressing room to give an unsporting impression about his character but also defended his position during the post-match briefing.

"I am playing for my team and myself. It is my personal matter whether I will raise the bat or not," said Ashraful.

The comment however saddened everybody.
Basically he cares less what fans think of him and deep inside he is still justfying his position somewhat. (Lack of politiking ability but shows a pure heart) :)

Murad
March 18, 2008, 04:12 PM
Mizan bhai.

This is what Ash said in the match presentation:

আপনারা আবার আসবেন খেলা দেখতে।

আমি আপনাদেরকে আনুরোধ করছি, বড় দল গুলোর সাথে যখন খেলতে নামি, তখন একটু বুঝতে চেষ্ঠা করবেন। আমরা চেষ্ঠা করি জয়ের জন্য। হ্য়ত পারি না।

http://www.shamokal.com/details.php?nid=92769

Tigers_eye
March 18, 2008, 04:25 PM
Mizan bhai.

This is what Ash said in the match presentation:

[বাংলা]
আপনারা আবার আসবেন খেলা দেখতে।

আমি আপনাদেরকে আনুরোধ করছি, বড় দল গুলোর সাথে যখন খেলতে নামি, তখন একটু বুঝতে চেষ্ঠা করবেন। আমরা চেষ্ঠা করি জয়ের জন্য। হ্য়ত পারি না।
[/বাংলা]

http://www.shamokal.com/details.php?nid=92769
I guess I was wrong. Daily Star didn't give details on why Ash didn't raise the bat towards the fans. Good to see him giving a cap to Jalal and inviting him in the game.

Beamer
March 18, 2008, 04:35 PM
As this seems an unconditional apology I think he is not over this matter yet. Ash can't move forward.
For beamer, check this out from Daily star:
http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=28392

Basically he cares less what fans think of him and deep inside he is still justfying his position somewhat. (Lack of politiking ability but shows a pure heart) :)

Like I mentioned in another thread, its irrelevant to me whether he acknowledges any cheer with a raised bat, as long he gives something to acknowledge. Sometimes an angry player produces a lot more than a settled player who has something to prove. That applies to every sport. He should stay mad if that gives us runs. I care about runs from him, not a raised bat, or how he does a sejhdah after a ton.

DS is crap these days. Learning from their guru PA about sentimental garbage.

Fazal
March 18, 2008, 04:44 PM
Like I mentioned in another thread, its irrelevant to me whether he acknowledges any cheer with a raised bat, as long he gives something to acknowledge. Sometimes an angry player produces a lot more than a settled player who has something to prove. That applies to every sport. He should stay mad if that gives us runs. I care about runs from him, not a raised bat, or how he does a sejhdah after a ton.


I agree, production is what most fans wants. Most fans like me would rather have Kaan mola with $100 bokshish rather than misti kotha with khali haat.

Plus in future raising bat while chasing fans may be more dangerous than slapping with plain hands.

Beamer
March 18, 2008, 10:35 PM
Not a fan of kan mola's. Will take the bokshish only.

Well..he was instructed by Siddons not to play any shots in air which he followed immaculately. Thus, no raising bats at any point. Good student that Ash..

Frost
March 18, 2008, 11:08 PM
I hope Ashraful reads these comments and rectify him accordingly. I agree with most of you - he should not have done this.

GuruTM
March 18, 2008, 11:32 PM
Nope!! ei lal sei lal na.... Jaa...lal... moner vitore jalano porano ekta anuvuti.. and Ashraful back with a bang!!

Be...lal.... kono lal nai ....be (nai) lal jar => belal... mone kono jala nai porao nai... and Ashraful went to the cold.


:)

If i am not wrong.

Its JaMal.

[বাংলা]এই মাল সেই মাল না। এইটা আসল মাল।[/বাংলা]

1983ak
March 19, 2008, 12:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPjgQxriYHs

AsifTheManRahman
March 19, 2008, 04:58 AM
Meh, I couldn't care less whether he raises the bat or not. The media's doing what it does best - til ke taal kora. If I were watching the game, it wouldn't even occur to me that he wasn't acknowledging the crowd's cheers.