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al Furqaan
May 20, 2008, 07:40 PM
of course the improvement of a team (or its lack) thereof is measure by the won-loss record. since bangladesh aren't there yet, we need another system. this can also evaluate if the players are doing well under Siddons' tutelage.

so for the Tri-series i propose the following benchmarks. a key thing to note, is that the indentity of the player does NOT matter, only if we have one or not. for example, suppose someone hits a 35 ball 50 to win us a match, it doesn't matter if that player is Javed Omar or Aftab.

Tri Series Benchmarks:

1) team crosses 250 whilst batting at least once (bonus point for each multiple occurence)
2) team restricts opposition to under 250 once (bonus point available)
3) at least one bowler concedes 35 or fewer runs in a complete 10 over spell
4) at least one bowler takes 3 wickets in an innings (bonus point available)
5) team takes 10 wickets (bonus point available)
6) 3 batsmen score 50s (bonus for each additional batter)
7) one batsman scores 70+ (bonus available)
8) a slip catch is taken off a pacer
9) game is still alive after 75 overs of play (bonus available for multiple occurences)

so i have a total of 9 benchmarks. suppose we achieve 2 of them, our score for the tri series would be 2/9 or 22.2%, however you want to put it. we can then construct a new list of benchmarks for the asia cup, keeping in mind all relevent factors (away series, length of series, etc) and score that to see if we improved from one series to another.

if anyone has any other reasonable benchmarks, please share. a benchmark of "4 batsmen score 100s" is an example of an unreasonable benchmark.

nsd3
May 20, 2008, 11:15 PM
1) Losing no more than 2 wickets in the 1st 20 overs (usually powerplay) could win some bonus point. This would show our score look like 70/2 in 20 overs losing Junaed, Aftab hehhee.

2) Losing no more than 2 wickets in overs 21 -35: bonus point. At this stage if either Ashraful or Tamim survives that would be fab.

3) Losing no more than 7 wickets in total before the start of 45th over : Bonus point. Advice: nothing counted on how many runs are scroed though.

4) No Wides & No 'No Ball' should have a bonus point per bowler. Minus point per bowler if wides/noballs given.

5) Direct throw making runout only if the throw is covered by another fielder.

6) Not sure if this is possible: IPL shows on TV that measures the reflex time by players after the bowler releases the ball. If there is a standard time needed for the batsmen to complete a run and if any batsmen can beat that time there should be a bonus point per each such occurrance.

kalpurush
May 21, 2008, 12:13 AM
As long as she is out of the Mirpur Stadium during our matches, I am happy!;)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/obayedh/kt_Donald-Duck-Snowboarding.jpg

BD-Shardul
May 21, 2008, 12:25 AM
As long as she is out of the Mirpur Stadium during our matches, I am happy!;)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/obayedh/kt_Donald-Duck-Snowboarding.jpg

She will not be out. Guaranteed. Our players like duck roast so much:(

Tigers_eye
May 21, 2008, 09:34 AM
As long as she is out of the Mirpur Stadium during our matches, I am happy!;)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/obayedh/kt_Donald-Duck-Snowboarding.jpg
1st ball'ei jodi player'ra tuila martey jai ta holey she will have a long day. coming and going.

Al,
Did you consider pitch condition? Wind movement? natural things you know (beyond our control). What if in the slow pitch opponent can only score 250? Then our expectation would be 200 or would still be at 250?

For our bowlers, it is a batting paradise.

For our batsmen, it is a mine field with demons assisting.

For our fielders, back to the childhood "taki mas" dhora days.

For the coaches, Not good enough, the rest don't understand cricket.

For the selectors, if you looking for an example of blind, mute bolod don't look anywhere else but "me".

For the management, let this series finish, commando training kakey bolay bujhai dibo.

For our capitano, "faster ball" or "fhasta ball (5ta ball)", I mean "fastaboll", top order kay bhalo kheltey hobey ebong team rule mantey hobey.

Rifat
May 21, 2008, 09:59 AM
As long as she is out of the Mirpur Stadium during our matches, I am happy!;)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/obayedh/kt_Donald-Duck-Snowboarding.jpg

you mean as long as she is in when INDIA the buffed up people from IPL BATS!!!

lamisa
May 21, 2008, 10:57 AM
you mean as long as she is in when INDIA the buffed up people from IPL BATS!!!

yo bro!!!letz bring on those ducks then!

crikfreak
May 22, 2008, 12:29 PM
5) team takes 10 wickets (bonus point available)


10 wickets in one match or both matches combined??

Fazal
May 22, 2008, 12:51 PM
Series by Series Improvement Watch?

If we can add one additional Bolod after each series then I am happy.

al Furqaan
May 22, 2008, 01:20 PM
1st ball'ei jodi player'ra tuila martey jai ta holey she will have a long day. coming and going.

Al,
Did you consider pitch condition? Wind movement? natural things you know (beyond our control). What if in the slow pitch opponent can only score 250? Then our expectation would be 200 or would still be at 250?

For our bowlers, it is a batting paradise.

For our batsmen, it is a mine field with demons assisting.

For our fielders, back to the childhood "taki mas" dhora days.

For the coaches, Not good enough, the rest don't understand cricket.

For the selectors, if you looking for an example of blind, mute bolod don't look anywhere else but "me".

For the management, let this series finish, commando training kakey bolay bujhai dibo.

For our capitano, "faster ball" or "fhasta ball (5ta ball)", I mean "fastaboll", top order kay bhalo kheltey hobey ebong team rule mantey hobey.

no pitch conditions taken into consideration, since a team can score 350 on us on a minefield. :-p:-p

Kabir
May 22, 2008, 02:44 PM
I wanted to view the pic that Obayed bhai posted, but somehow my work's firewall considered that as a pornographic pic? :eek:

How come? Eishob ki Obayed bhai? ;)

Tigers_eye
May 22, 2008, 03:04 PM
I wanted to view the pic that Obayed bhai posted, but somehow my work's firewall considered that as a pornographic pic? :eek:

How come? Eishob ki Obayed bhai? ;)
Looking closely the Duck is truely naked. chi chi chi!!

Fazal
May 22, 2008, 03:09 PM
I wanted to view the pic that Obayed bhai posted, but somehow my work's firewall considered that as a pornographic pic? :eek:

How come? Eishob ki Obayed bhai? ;)

Bhaigna,

Dont't worry. Its a false alarm.

Your comapnay's filter is most likely equiped with artificial intellegence as it sees and learns from user's trends and past history.

The only remedy is go and contact your IT secuirty folks and admit your past behaviour and ask for their forgiveness and ask for a fresh new start by deleting your past history from the filter program.

al Furqaan
June 9, 2008, 01:08 PM
so far only one of the benchmarks has been achieved - razzak took 3 wickets (alok gets the bonus point).

so far 2/9, with one match to go.

Rifat
June 9, 2008, 02:29 PM
Tri Series Benchmarks:

1) team crosses 250 whilst batting at least once (bonus point for each multiple occurence)
2) team restricts opposition to under 250 once (bonus point available)
3) at least one bowler concedes 35 or fewer runs in a complete 10 over spell
4) at least one bowler takes 3 wickets in an innings (bonus point available)
5) team takes 10 wickets (bonus point available)
6) 3 batsmen score 50s (bonus for each additional batter)
7) one batsman scores 70+ (bonus available)
8) a slip catch is taken off a pacer
9) game is still alive after 75 overs of play (bonus available for multiple occurences)



benchmarks achieved thus far:

# 2, # 4+bonus # 5, #9

4/9

44.44% THUS FAR!!!


in order for 100% the following needs to happen:

we need to bat first in india match and post 250+(with that assumuing at least two batsmen will score 50s OR 1 batsmen gets at least 70+)(if both happens the final 50over score should be 283/3 Tamim 95, Ashraful 55, Rahim 51 etc...)

when bowling we need "Raasellike bowler" to restrict opponent scoring in a 10over spell less than 35 runs to give

some pacer needs to bowl at the appropriate height so they can "poke it" and the bowl will get to slip fielder

Kabir
June 9, 2008, 02:36 PM
2) team restricts opposition to under 250 once (bonus point available)

#2 hasn't been reached. Pak played 40 overs, and scored 230+. If they played 50 overs, they would've scored 350.

Tigers_eye
June 9, 2008, 02:41 PM
#2 hasn't been reached. Pak played 40 overs, and scored 230+. If they played 50 overs, they would've scored 350.
lol, how could that be possible? Asoka would bat for them? I thought they lost all 10 wickets. :)

al Furqaan
June 9, 2008, 03:00 PM
2/9 not 4/9.

and it should be 1/9 since alok isn't a bowler, but since he got rid of 2 key batsmen (more than razzak actually who just mopped up the tail) i gave him a bonus point.

at the rate we're going at, we'll finish the series with 4/9 whereas, a top tier team would prolly finish with a min of 15/9 or more.

Kabir
June 9, 2008, 04:16 PM
lol, how could that be possible? Asoka would bat for them? I thought they lost all 10 wickets. :)

Bhaijan...bujhen nai ki koitasi.

Fall of wickets1-75 (Kamran Akmal, 11.6 ov), 2-75 (Younis Khan, 12.1 ov), 3-140 (Salman Butt, 24.6 ov), 4-179 (Shahid Afridi, 30.2 ov), 5-180 (Mohammad Yousuf, 30.6 ov), 6-227 (Shoaib Malik, 37.1 ov), 7-229 (Misbah-ul-Haq, 38.1 ov), 8-232 (Fawad Alam, 38.6 ov), 9-233 (Sohail Tanvir, 39.2 ov), 10-233 (Wahab Riaz, 39.3 ov)

In the 30th over, their late-innings slogging started. And that's when you saw Yousuf fall. After that, the wickets went at 227, 229, 232, 233, and 233.

Do you think that this is how it would have turned out if it was a 50 overs match?

We can give our bowlers all the "benefit of doubt" we want...but the reality is that, they got smacked in the beginning, and may have been smacked in the end too. It's just that for slogging, Pak lost their wickets. I seriously hope that these wickets were earned, and not given away.

al Furqaan
June 9, 2008, 05:56 PM
we may have gotten them out in 50 overs, may not have. its 50-50. but unless we do, i don't see why we should award them a point which they might have earned.

Foozy
June 9, 2008, 07:56 PM
Although it was a totally "faltu" game, quite a few bench marks have surely been knocked down.
Lets hope that Pak beats India, and then we beat India. Somehow our confidence level goes up when we play India in an ODI. Lets hope that makes a difference...
Lastly... Go Tamim! ... lets unleash him for this match... lol

nahaz
June 9, 2008, 10:32 PM
How about if Mashrafee can make someone bleed with a Bouncer that a bonus?

If we only lose 2 wickets in the first 25 overs, that's one too. Usually we lose 5.

Finally, if the fans don't have unrealistic expectations, that's one too.

nahaz
June 9, 2008, 10:34 PM
Btw I like the above benchmarks in this thread

Ishtylish cricketer
June 9, 2008, 11:52 PM
of course the improvement of a team (or its lack) thereof is measure by the won-loss record. since bangladesh aren't there yet, we need another system. this can also evaluate if the players are doing well under Siddons' tutelage.

so for the Tri-series i propose the following benchmarks. a key thing to note, is that the indentity of the player does NOT matter, only if we have one or not. for example, suppose someone hits a 35 ball 50 to win us a match, it doesn't matter if that player is Javed Omar or Aftab.

Tri Series Benchmarks:

1) team crosses 250 whilst batting at least once (bonus point for each multiple occurence)
2) team restricts opposition to under 250 once (bonus point available)
3) at least one bowler concedes 35 or fewer runs in a complete 10 over spell
4) at least one bowler takes 3 wickets in an innings (bonus point available)
5) team takes 10 wickets (bonus point available)
6) 3 batsmen score 50s (bonus for each additional batter)
7) one batsman scores 70+ (bonus available)
8) a slip catch is taken off a pacer
9) game is still alive after 75 overs of play (bonus available for multiple occurences)

so i have a total of 9 benchmarks. suppose we achieve 2 of them, our score for the tri series would be 2/9 or 22.2%, however you want to put it. we can then construct a new list of benchmarks for the asia cup, keeping in mind all relevent factors (away series, length of series, etc) and score that to see if we improved from one series to another.

if anyone has any other reasonable benchmarks, please share. a benchmark of "4 batsmen score 100s" is an example of an unreasonable benchmark.

Al-Faruqaan bhai, where's your football logo? I love this post of yours. Your "watch or check list" reminds of the NFL 2006's end game's bonus points. You should have tried becoming a programmer or game developper.

BANFAN
June 10, 2008, 12:21 AM
Al Furqaan

The benchmarks takes us 4/5 years back, if not more. These are associates benchmarks to achieve shommanjonok porajoy. Lets first know what is your expectation from the team, Shommanjonok porajoy or Nothing short of Joy.

If it's a joy ? Bench marking in each dept. should be done in a way, if achieved, should lead us to victory.

zainab
June 10, 2008, 01:54 AM
As long as she is out of the Mirpur Stadium during our matches, I am happy!;)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/obayedh/kt_Donald-Duck-Snowboarding.jpg


Dont be so happy. WE had 3 of them against pakistan.