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djnaved
May 24, 2008, 03:38 PM
http://www.prothom-alo.com/fcat.news.details.php?issuedate=2008-05-25&nid=MjQ2MjI=&fid=Ng==

Kabir
May 24, 2008, 05:41 PM
The first line of the article tells you everything.

Sohel
May 24, 2008, 09:06 PM
The first line of the article tells you everything.

Spot on.

BANFAN
May 25, 2008, 02:24 AM
He had a good logic on payment of the players. Infact the performance based payment system should be introduced at every level, to make all the players understand that there is no alternative to performance, where ever you play.

Nannu has rightly identified the problem of our current players.

Rabz
May 25, 2008, 11:43 AM
Gone those days when we had Bulbul,Akram,Nannu cemented thier place in the middle order. For a long long time in BD national team, it was unthinkable to have anybody else in that middle order.
And havent they served us good?

I think thats where it made the difference. Even though our team of the 90's era didnot win many matches or was not up to the task, they played with thier abilities and serves to the best of thier mark.

What the current team badly lacks is a leadership role. Someone to look upto.
Unfortunately for us, we have none.

A bunch of early 20 something themselves, they have no one to turn to when it matters the most.

Back in the days...they had plenty.

bujhee kom
May 25, 2008, 01:29 PM
very much agree with you banfan!

BANFAN
May 25, 2008, 02:08 PM
Gone those days when we had Bulbul,Akram,Nannu cemented thier place in the middle order. For a long long time in BD national team, it was unthinkable to have anybody else in that middle order.
And havent they served us good?

Not a shade of doubt, we are in the test map today, primarily because of them.

I think thats where it made the difference. Even though our team of the 90's era didnot win many matches or was not up to the task, they played with thier abilities and serves to the best of thier mark.

It's true that they had limited abilities, but their commitment, produced much better output than they were capable of. They really over performed.

What the current team badly lacks is a leadership role. Someone to look upto.
Unfortunately for us, we have none.

A bunch of early 20 something themselves, they have no one to turn to when it matters the most.

Back in the days...they had plenty.

May be we needed a senior player in the leadership role. Like Ranatunga in the relatively young Sri team, while they won the world cup. Unfortunately we don't have even one like him. Bashar was in a position to take that role, but his performance graph was so consistantly low, that it could affect the team adversely, if all these irresponsibility have not increased at his last leg. it's beyond comprehension, how can all players of an era, be so irresponsible that we even don't have a choice of leadership, be it young or old.

jeesh
May 25, 2008, 11:03 PM
And when you come to think of it, the finger is pointed to our policy makers. We are the ones who axed the likes of Mehrab Hossain, Al Shahriar, Shahriah Hossain. When players performed below their expectation we just gave them the axe whereas they should have been given a Specialist Coach to work with to correct their mistakes. Similarly we wiped out the next generation as well sacking Ehsanul Haque, Saleh, Kapali etc.

Sri Lanka doesnt have the luxury of a large player pool to choose from. But they have stuck to their principle. They dont bring in any player until they prove themselves in domestic cricket and A team consistently. And they ensure the national team has a good blend of youth and experience. Just look at their newcomer Malinda Warnapura- this guy is 29 with loads of First Class experience!

cricman
May 25, 2008, 11:47 PM
I'm Tired of these old grumpy LOSERS speaking there mind, writing articles about what is Wrong in Bangladesh Cricket. If these guys were truly great than we won't be this bad right now, instead players would have Idols too look up too. You guys put them on a pedestal like there great cricketers or something. They won an ICC Trophy on an 1 great innings that got them past the SF and rain helped them win the final.

Could you Imagine if were an Associate Team with the current group of players just whippin sides back in the day or right now. You'd have spells of 5/8 and Indiviual innings of 250+ in ICC intercontinental cup against sides like Namibia. These fools couldn't even beat Kenya.

BANFAN
May 26, 2008, 02:01 AM
None disagees that they didn't win a lots of matches, they didn't have the technical ability, they even weren't good enough to win the ICC trophy. But it was there sincerity, commitment and the desire to do better than what they were and that was vissible.

The current lot has better skill, better talent and ability. They just don't have the commitment, sincerity and the desire to perform. These are displayed not only at the international level, equally at the domestic level as well.

It makes a lot of difference winning against the associates; now and then. The oldies with their limitations ensured that we are in the test arena, the current generation is responsible to atleast retain that.

Right brothers just created a junk and The first generation of Neuclear bombs are crap by today's standard. The cric team of India (or any country when they began) in 50-60 would lose with todays Ind team, 100 out of 100 times. But they are more respected coz that was difficult. Their next generation haven't failed to take it ahead, unlike ours.

I know, have to have patience. But direct compariosn between the past and present and disregarding them, really shows how much we deserve.

Shehwar
May 26, 2008, 02:47 AM
The oldies didnt even have a proper cricket ground for a long time! And compare that to the facilities and attention these players get!!!! Its chalk and cheese!!! They used to get paid peanuts or next to nothing!...They used to play for the passion of the game...and they didnt have 1/4 of the exposure that the current bunch has had......

sunny747
May 26, 2008, 02:58 AM
None disagees that they didn't win a lots of matches, they didn't have the technical ability, they even weren't good enough to win the ICC trophy. But it was there sincerity, commitment and the desire to do better than what they were and that was vissible.

The current lot has better skill, better talent and ability. They just don't have the commitment, sincerity and the desire to perform. These are displayed not only at the international level, equally at the domestic level as well.

It makes a lot of difference winning against the associates; now and then. The oldies with their limitations ensured that we are in the test arena, the current generation is responsible to atleast retain that.

Right brothers just created a junk and The first generation of Neuclear bombs are crap by today's standard. The cric team of India (or any country when they began) in 50-60 would lose with todays Ind team, 100 out of 100 times. But they are more respected coz that was difficult. Their next generation haven't failed to take it ahead, unlike ours.

I know, have to have patience. But direct compariosn between the past and present and disregarding them, really shows how much we deserve.

Spot on.
i was writing something similar to this and i saw your post.
I would easily swap the current team with old one. At least they had responsibilities, knows how to talk and well educated.

Rabz
May 26, 2008, 11:47 AM
Very well said BANFAN.
Spot on.

Nocturnal
May 26, 2008, 12:01 PM
Responsibility is a word yet to be found in the dictionary of current bunch of BD superstars!! SHAME :mad:

sunny747
May 26, 2008, 12:02 PM
i'm sure the thread opener is pretty young hence doesn't know much about our past. It might sound ridiculous to many of the new BC member but the joy and feelings that i have received by the radio commentary from the kilat club, INCOMPARABLE!!

Please respect our past cricketers.

cricman
May 26, 2008, 12:20 PM
Please respect our past cricketers.

It be nice if the fans respected the current bunch as well.

Kabir
May 26, 2008, 12:27 PM
Cricman bhai khepse...ajke amader khobor ase. :D

Rabz
May 26, 2008, 01:46 PM
i'm sure the thread opener is pretty young hence doesn't know much about our past. It might sound ridiculous to many of the new BC member but the joy and feelings that i have received by the radio commentary from the kilat club, INCOMPARABLE!!

Please respect our past cricketers.

I think any Bangladeshi, who listened to those matches esp the final, would/could never forget that day.

Its just one of those days that would forever be written in gold in the history of Bangladesh and its people.

...those were the days!

Fazal
May 27, 2008, 01:50 PM
I think its time to stop Khajuira Paan Paanani. Its easy to complain and say all the right things, but whats the point if no body follows what they are saying? There is no point to blame players like Ash, Aftab who are expoiting the loop holes and maximizing their earning in a effort efficient way. Why give effort if you can get without giving that? Why go with pain of learning and modifying when you don't need to ... to be selected in the national team?

If you have to blame for your suffering and the failure of the team, everybody needs to look at the mirror and will see where is the problem is. You will see that patronizing these players are comming from every where... from fans... to coaches ... to selectors.... to team management ... to reports....from every where. Players fails to perform in the national team, they they even fail to justify their huge salary in local team. What is the penulty? They (some of them) gets cricketer of the year award.... they still get selected in the local team and fail again... and finally the final nail in the coffin? They get selected again the national team.

People complain... then they forget and forgive.... and the player(s) fail again..... and the cycle continues....

We are all playing games.....you know it I know it.... so why these complains? I think its time to Stop these Khajuira Paan Paanani....all talks and no action, I don't blame these players anymore, I blame these 'all talk and no action' people who have the power ot make a difference but decides status quo .... and complain to be in the safe side.

Shehwar
May 27, 2008, 02:21 PM
i'm sure the thread opener is pretty young hence doesn't know much about our past. It might sound ridiculous to many of the new BC member but the joy and feelings that i have received by the radio commentary from the kilat club, INCOMPARABLE!!

Please respect our past cricketers.

Spot On!

djnaved
May 27, 2008, 08:10 PM
i'm sure the thread opener is pretty young hence doesn't know much about our past. It might sound ridiculous to many of the new BC member but the joy and feelings that i have received by the radio commentary from the kilat club, INCOMPARABLE!!

Please respect our past cricketers.

man what did i do? i just read an article and posted it....i have no idea what are you trying to say.........

sunny747
May 27, 2008, 10:57 PM
djnaved,
just what i have guessed. Ask any senior what it means to us by Kilat club. It will give you little history of Bd cricket. However, you are the new generation , you will have your say as well.. No hard feelings.

djnaved
May 27, 2008, 11:33 PM
djnaved,
just what i have guessed. Ask any senior what it means to us by Kilat club. It will give you little history of Bd cricket. However, you are the new generation , you will have your say as well.. No hard feelings.

man, i still don't get it what you are trying to say, plz explain it clearly.... is anything wrong with the thread?

bujhee kom
May 28, 2008, 09:21 AM
nowhere in the thread i see naved making any unacceptable comments about our past cricketers! naved bro, you did a good thing opening this thread, indeed it's a good find (the article about minhaz). by the way, i always think naved has very thoughtful and passionate feelings about bd cricket!

Tigers_eye
May 28, 2008, 09:32 AM
It be nice if the fans respected the current bunch as well.
When the current bunch doesn't try (to learn or adapt), respect can not even be bought for these mindless idiots. One thing not to have talent. Another thing to have talent and not to use it. Habitual criminals gets no respect. Yes, it is criminal to try to hit a six in the first ball (get out in the process) and be happy because they played their (*&%*&) natural game. (Cricket is a team game not showing off class, style, or innovation. Average players needs to play for the team not to their instincts)

RESPECT is earned not given. Once earned, one needs to know how to preserve it. current bunch knows nothing.

Fazal
May 28, 2008, 10:43 AM
Yess.... if you wnat TE's respect you need to earn it.... Khaitaa Khaitee Hobe....No Magna Khichuri anymore.

akabir77
May 28, 2008, 11:57 AM
http://www.prothom-alo.com/fcat.news.details.php?issuedate=2008-05-25&nid=MjQ2MjI=&fid=Ng==

link is not working. please help

djnaved
May 28, 2008, 12:31 PM
nowhere in the thread i see naved making any unacceptable comments about our past cricketers! naved bro, you did a good thing opening this thread, indeed it's a good find (the article about minhaz). by the way, i always think naved has very thoughtful and passionate feelings about bd cricket!

vai, apnara ki boltachen ami kichui bujtachi na.......ami just ekta article pailam abong sheta post korlam, ei nia amar namea eto kichu bolbe ami bujtachi na..........

djnaved
May 28, 2008, 12:32 PM
link is not working. please help

go back to prothom alo's purano shonkha, and look for the date that produces stadium column page......

akabir77
May 28, 2008, 12:57 PM
I'm Tired of these old grumpy LOSERS speaking there mind, writing articles about what is Wrong in Bangladesh Cricket. If these guys were truly great than we won't be this bad right now, instead players would have Idols too look up too. You guys put them on a pedestal like there great cricketers or something. They won an ICC Trophy on an 1 great innings that got them past the SF and rain helped them win the final.

Could you Imagine if were an Associate Team with the current group of players just whippin sides back in the day or right now. You'd have spells of 5/8 and Indiviual innings of 250+ in ICC intercontinental cup against sides like Namibia. These fools couldn't even beat Kenya.

Please grow some knowledge then may be you will see the benefit of the past. U think past players got training, money and stuff like the way the current crops does? They played this game for passion. Still they were good enough to fight with these pro players from TEST nations. And you think they know nothing? They know more about cricket then the current team combine. They knew how to save the last man in and rotate strike when its 9 down where as after 92 matches some of our current crop have no clue. i can go like this on and on but i think with your comment it clearly shows how much you know our past or cricket...

bujhee kom
May 28, 2008, 01:18 PM
naved bro, i am supporting you. you haven't done nothing wrong, rather shared a good article with all of us by opening this thread!
sunny bhai probably felt upset and emotional over some differences of feelings between cricman bhai and few others over this comparative analysis - who is better and more responsible, the new genration(ash and co.) or the old(minhaz and co.)? and as sunny bhai loves to cherish the memories of of the icc era, he was just merely saying the young, new generation doesn't have the memory and strugglefilled sweet feeling of the pre-cricinfo, pre-banglacricket, pre-internet era bd cricket!
i just corrected the forum saying that you (the thread opener) said nothing demeaning re: our ex-national cricketers! that's all!

to my naved, cricman, akabir and sunny bhai, it's all good, bro!
east coast, west coast
noakhali, sylhety
hindu, moslem
awami league and bnp
mohammedan and abahani
todlers and fuddy duddy,
at the end of the day we are all bd! one common pain, struggle and joy! and same ole bhat and niramish! we should take fazal mama's advice and eat more aloos!


amar shonar bangla ami tomae bhalobashi

Tigers_eye
May 28, 2008, 01:26 PM
to my naved, cricman, akabir and sunny bhai, it's all good, bro!
east coast, west coast
noakhali, sylhety
hindu, moslem
awami league and bnp
mohammedan and abahani
todlers and fuddy duddy,
at the end of the day we are all bd! one common pain, struggle and joy! and same ole bhat and niramish! we should take fazal mama's advice and eat more aloos!


amar shonar bangla ami tomae bhalobashi
Oi miya!! Mair khaiso? ajey bajey comparison koro kaan? Abar jodi kokhono dekhi faltu team'er shatey Abahani'r compare kortey... ekdom internet dholai dibo. jotto shob. :mad: jai team when contending for the title lose by NINE wickets sheita abar team hoilo? Tar upor oi team asey fool babu are Aftab, Junaid.

bujhee kom
May 28, 2008, 01:42 PM
T-E, apne hoilen amar boro jetha!
maaf chai, jetha! kaan-e dhorlam - ekhon theke ami amar arambagh kc -kei door theke bhalobashbo!
aar kokhono amar purano prem msc-er naam mookhe anbo na!
raag raikhen na, jetha, ektu dua koiren..

Kabir
May 28, 2008, 01:43 PM
ajey bajey comparison koro kaan? Abar jodi kokhono dekhi faltu team'er shatey Abahani'r compare kortey... ekdom internet dholai dibo. jotto shob. :mad:

:big_hug: :-*