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drstud
June 27, 2008, 05:11 PM
its time to say who should get dropped for the coming games in the Asia Cup for Bangladesh, lets kick someone out cyber-style so we can feel better about it even though it may not come true for the sake of it!;)

Fixtures
Sat 28
16:00 local, 10:00 GMT 7th Match, Super Four - Bangladesh v India
National Stadium, Karachi
Sun 29
16:00 local, 10:00 GMT 8th Match, Super Four - Pakistan v Sri Lanka
National Stadium, Karachi
Mon 30
16:00 local, 10:00 GMT 9th Match, Super Four - Bangladesh v Sri Lanka
National Stadium, Karachi
July 2008
Wed 2
16:00 local, 10:00 GMT 10th Match, Super Four - Pakistan v India
National Stadium, Karachi
Thu 3
16:00 local, 10:00 GMT 11th Match, Super Four - India v Sri Lanka
National Stadium, Karachi
Fri 4
16:00 local, 10:00 GMT 12th Match, Super Four - Pakistan v Bangladesh
National Stadium, Karachi
Sun 6
16:00 local, 10:00 GMT Final - TBC v TBC
National Stadium, Karachi

Morpheous
June 27, 2008, 06:17 PM
Definately Dollar Mahmud (49 Runs in 3 overs is NOT ACCEPTABLE IN ANY MEAN)and Nazimuddin (Scoring "Mudi" 2 match in a Row)

Antora
June 27, 2008, 06:29 PM
why is Tamim , Mash, Raz, Rakib and Ash on the list????
well i am voting for Nazimudddddddiiiinnn!

al Furqaan
June 27, 2008, 08:13 PM
a few people need dropiing.

i'd go with dollar cuz an econ rate of 16 is just funny. but rajib, nazim would be right up there as well.

Zunaid
June 27, 2008, 08:30 PM
a few people need dropiing.


Doping? I wonder whether even that would help....

Gowza
June 27, 2008, 09:06 PM
i'd like to see how shahadat goes at first change before he's dropped also wonder why sajidul isn't around, not in the national or A squads, he shouldn't have been taken to NZ if they didn't see him as a long term prospect. when they're pushing a player they need to put in the time and effort to develop them otherwise what's the point in calling them up? this doesn't mean keeping them in the national team the whole time, just means if they're not in the national squad they should be around the A team squad.

Murad
June 27, 2008, 09:16 PM
wonder why sajidul isn't around, not in the national or A squads, he shouldn't have been taken to NZ if they didn't see him as a long term prospect.

He's in the England bound A-team squad.

Gowza
June 27, 2008, 09:35 PM
He's in the England bound A-team squad.

cheers, why isn't he in the ireland A team squad?

Murad
June 27, 2008, 09:41 PM
cheers, why isn't he in the ireland A team squad?

I think he's considered for the FC matches only. We are not playing any FC matches against Ireland, hence he's not the that squad.

Dhruvo
June 27, 2008, 09:46 PM
At this stage I'd say Nazim and Dollar should get dropped

Gowza
June 27, 2008, 09:50 PM
I think he's considered for the FC matches only. We are not playing any FC matches against Ireland, hence he's not the that squad.

i said this in another thread, but doesn't sajidul have a bit of swing? ashraful was looking for swing in the match against sri lanka, sajidul has decent pace and swing so with the current ODI bowling situation it seems a bit strange that someone like sajidul isn't being looked at more closely. plus they did play a 3 or 4 day match against ireland A.

sbsash
June 27, 2008, 09:51 PM
I think Nazimmuddin should get dropped because he is scoring very low.

Murad
June 27, 2008, 10:03 PM
i said this in another thread, but doesn't sajidul have a bit of swing? ashraful was looking for swing in the match against sri lanka, sajidul has decent pace and swing so with the current ODI bowling situation it seems a bit strange that someone like sajidul isn't being looked at more closely. plus they did play a 3 or 4 day match against ireland A.

Well, our selectors have some cracks on their heads. Else they wouldn't drop Rasel from the squad, let alone Sajid.

I hope these two bowlers bowl really well in the FC matches in England and fight for their place in the National team.

Sajedul could be a great bowler in Test along with Mash & Rajib.

Gowza
June 27, 2008, 10:08 PM
Well, our selectors have some cracks on their heads. Else they wouldn't drop Rasel from the squad, let alone Sajid.

I hope these two bowlers bowl really well in the FC matches in England and fight for their place in the National team.

Sajedul could be a great bowler in Test along with Mash & Rajib.

true that, the selectors are quite barmy at times, here's hoping they both have good performances in england.

Blah
June 27, 2008, 10:15 PM
For me the obvious choice is Nazim. When your only job in the team is batting, one needs to take a serious look into your approach towards the game. Nazim has horrible footwork, in all the games I have seen him play so far. It's ok to have horrible foorwork if you are someone like shewag, and he is no shewag but his attitude towards the game is. I think he is still high on his performance during the 20/20 against new zealand. I would give him points if his outs were unfortunate/unlucky, but his outs were example of a horrible batting approach.

Nafees needs to be given more chances even if he doesn't perform or is in a bad patch. The fact is, he had performed in the past (regardless of the opponent), and is a proven performer; has good footwork and is a compact batsmen.

When there is a choice between a batsmen who has performed well previously against weaker opponents and proved himself but now is going through a bad patch (nafees) and a batsmen who has never performed inthe past and it still not performing (nazim) the choice is obvious and it's a no-brainer that nafees (in the lact of better choices) should be given more chances.

My second choice and third choice (and if I had the option to vote three times), would definately be kapali and dollar mahmud. What a horrible waste of player resources. Cricket is a game of 11 players, and everytime bangladesh goes out there to play with this two players, they are actually playing 9 players. They are two playing in the team as allrounders, they both "bat a little" and "bowl a little", yet they repeatedly go out there and perform horribly in batting and bowling. Batsmen has one chance to perform but alrounders get two chances, and yet they fail again and again.One of these days you have to stand up and say "enough is enough".

Kapali should not only be kicked out of the team, but he should be stripped off any contract, and have him sign a non-disclosure aggrement with the selectors that he would not be applicable to be selected inthe team even if he averages 100 from then on for the rest of his life in domestic cricket. He is just that bad.

kapali is so horrible, that I think we are better of asking atahar ali, to get out of the commentators box and start playing with the team. I think he would be as good as kapali any day in the field.

As far as dollar mahmud is concerned, looking at his domestic records; he should have never been there in the first place, I dont know what the hell is he doing in the team.

My 11 for the team would be for the indian game:

(In batting Order)

Nafees ---------------------bat
Tamim ---------------------bat
Ash -------------------------bat
Raqibul ---------------------bat
Mushy ----------------------bat
Mahmudullah --------------bat/ball
Farhad reza ---------------bat/ball
Mashrafee -----------------ball
Razzaq ---------------------ball
Mosharraf Hossain --------ball
Shahadat Hossain ---------ball

With this we have 6 genuine balling option, 7 genuine batting option, and two genuine allrounder. Shahadat is chosen, not because of his performance but the lack of better option inthe team.

Ishtylish cricketer
June 28, 2008, 12:24 AM
Nazim because he did nothing so far in this tournament. I never liked Shadat in ODIs because they take away from his natural bowling length and force him into negative lengths and lines. If he continues to play ODIs, he will burned out quickly and his effectiveness in all forms will be diminished. IMO, Shadat should only play test matches and focus on bowling aggressively. He is potentially the only pacer capable of causing a batting collapse to the top 8 test teams so BCB's priority should be his health. Furthermore, by playing him in ODIs, Bd misses out on the tail-end bowling allrounder that every other team seems to have. We are always in need of runs from the tail thus, it's essential that we have someone like Farhad Reza playing instead of a specialist "better suited for tests" bowler in ODIs at expense of burn out and bodliy injuries. Once Shadat becomes a mature test bowler, understands his bowling action and all the other subtleties associated with his bowling, he can return to ODIs. At this rate however, playing him in both ODIs and tests, the bangladesh cricket board is on course to wreck his body and ruin his career. MTCW.

BANFAN
June 28, 2008, 12:45 AM
May be no change
or May be SN should have a try against India.

nahaz
June 28, 2008, 01:10 AM
Blah, what has Kapali done to deserve your wrath? Is it sth personal? There's three ppl in the team who are not performing at all..Nazim, Dollar and Shahadat. Kapali's bowled just as good or bad as Riyad.But Kapali can bat...
Don't just go off at ppl coz you don't like their chehara.And who the heck told u Dollar is an all-rounder? What's the point of bringing in Rubel?
<b>I wanna see SN instead of Nazim, and Reza instead of Dollar in all of the remaining matches.</b>

Ak
June 28, 2008, 02:02 AM
Dollar doesn't seem that he's ready just yet for International Cricket so I'd drop him for Reza. Atleast Reza would give the side an option of an extra batsman if needed but what's more important is that he bowls tightly against the Indians.

Foozy
June 28, 2008, 02:19 AM
As much as I would like to give Dollar another chance, I have voted for Dollar. It just seems like he needs more time before he comes into the national fold, or come in during matches against weaker opposition (when we play them) to gain some experience.

Then again others deserve this practice more than him, such as Sajidur.
He just needs more time... and what we desperately need back as everyone knows is...
.................
Drum rolllll....
............
.........
Yes thats rite!! Rasel!! :)

Sohel
June 28, 2008, 02:25 AM
We always drop the worst performer, unless he's Ash or Abir (until recently), and still don't manage to compete let alone win.

So why not do something different and drop our top performer (knock on wood) ?

Oi Rokibbah, off-ja ! Naralay jaya rasta map !

Foozy
June 28, 2008, 02:27 AM
We always drop the worst performer, unless he's Ash or Abir (until recently), and still don't manage to compete let alone win.

So why not do something different and drop our top performer (knock on wood) ?

Oi Rokibbah, off-ja ! Naralay jaya rasta map !

Lol Sohel bhai, bcb has already done that with Rasel, but it didnt seem to help /:)
... now if you are thinking of using two negatives to make a positive, then thats different lol.

Sohel
June 28, 2008, 02:33 AM
Dropping Rasel was not enough, obhiasly. If dropping Rokib doesn't work, we can drop Razzak as a part of the "process" of dropping all PERFORMERS whose names start with the letter R. Rajib can be dropped for tests. Once we run out of options, we can drop Shakib the S and Tamim the T.

Blah
June 28, 2008, 03:14 AM
Blah, what has Kapali done to deserve your wrath? Is it sth personal? There's three ppl in the team who are not performing at all..Nazim, Dollar and Shahadat. Kapali's bowled just as good or bad as Riyad.But Kapali can bat...
Don't just go off at ppl coz you don't like their chehara.And who the heck told u Dollar is an all-rounder? What's the point of bringing in Rubel?
I wanna see SN instead of Nazim, and Reza instead of Dollar in all of the remaining matches.

He promised me "khasir biryani", but I never recieved it.
That's my beef with him.

Hopefully he will get 5 wickets and 50 runs and prove me wrong. And settle his position inthe team for the next 50 or so games.

mijanur
June 28, 2008, 04:57 AM
doller. he is a burden

drstud
June 28, 2008, 05:29 AM
come on guys give dolar a break he has a very good career average

crikfreak
June 28, 2008, 05:36 AM
i'd like to see both dollar and nazim gone.. dollar went.. nazim got another chance.. couldn't use it.. hope they drop him for next match..

drstud
June 28, 2008, 06:35 AM
hopefully they do!

scoilaheez
June 28, 2008, 07:53 AM
where the hell is farhad reza's name???

arafath79
June 28, 2008, 07:29 PM
No body except Nazim Uddin in the next two matches against Srilanka and Pakistan.

arafath79
June 28, 2008, 07:31 PM
where the hell is farhad reza's name???

Dropping Farhad Reza would not be good idea because Farhad is the best choice as a third seamer at the moment. He is doing much better than Dollar Mahmud.

nahaz
June 28, 2008, 09:25 PM
He promised me "khasir biryani", but I never recieved it.
That's my beef with him.

Hopefully he will get 5 wickets and 50 runs and prove me wrong. And settle his position inthe team for the next 50 or so games.

Obviously Alok read your post. Hope you're happy now. Else he has to score another fifty in the next two matches.:D

Blah
June 28, 2008, 10:51 PM
Obviously Alok read your post. Hope you're happy now. Else he has to score another fifty in the next two matches.:D

I am not happy since we need him to score like this consistently. (hope the trick works again)

Abd_Bakri
June 28, 2008, 11:07 PM
i have voted for dollar... if there was an option of selecting another two names... it would definately be nazimuddin and Farhad Reza.... i heard so much about dollar but he has been a nightmare for the team... nazimuddin has failed every damn time... farhad reza need no words the sole reason for us to lose the game yesterday... a shock which im still trying to recover from... but anyways.... some people are talking about 3rd seamer but really do you think farhad reza is a pacer in any sense... he looks so "Lula" bowler... he has a horrible pace... he bowls everything in the slot to be smothered.... and he has no sense of bowling in a good channel... why keep him... even aftab was smarter then him as a bowler... farhad is just pathetic... why do we even need a 3rd seamer when we dont have a real capable seamer in the squad.... we can easily go in with 3 spinners like we did in the wc 07.... obviously if rasel was in the squad.... (which he should have been if not for stupid politics)..... he should have been an automatic selection.... rasel is the best we have after mashrafee... if siddons feels he cant keep a slow bolwer in the team... i dont know what he is doing with farhad or dollar... they are near about rasels pace.... you dont have to have the pace to be a great bowler always... look at mcgrath or vaas... they dont have pace... its all about line and length for bowlers like rasel... we desperately need him back.... but until that happens please dont pick either dolar or farhad... and yes please bring back nafees... and send nazim down the order....! though i hate nazim... but he is supposedly the best hitter after aftab(Yet to see that as he never crossed the 20 margin) but i really hope nafees is back..!

oracle
June 28, 2008, 11:36 PM
Who should get dropped? Frankly, I don't know. This team is too fluid at the moment. We should have a wait and see attitude and give adopt a open door policy for some of the youngsters. It may take years but in this way we will give everyone their chance.