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djnaved
September 14, 2008, 09:39 AM
খবরটা ছড়িয়ে পড়েছে সকালেই। ভারতের বিদ্রোহী লিগ আইসিএল-এ যোগ দিচ্ছেন বাংলাদেশের ১৪ ক্রিকেটার! ১৪ জনের তালিকার একটি নাম শাহরিয়ার নাফীস, আর তার মোবাইলটা স্বাভাবিক কারণেই ব্যস্ত খুব। সেই ব্যস্ততার ভেতরে কোনোরকমে ঢুকে যাওয়ার পর অবধারিত প্রশ্ন, খবরটা কি সত্যি? কোনোরকম রাখ-ঢাক না করেই নাফীসের উত্তর,'' হ্যাঁ ভাই, কী শুনেছেন জানি না। তবে আমি আর বাংলাদেশের আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটে খেলবো না। সকালেই বোর্ডের কাছে লিখিত দিয়ে এসেছি। খুব কষ্ট নিয়েই বলছি। এর চেয়ে বড় শাস্তি, বড় কষ্ট কী হতে পারে?''

একটানে অনেক কিছু বলে গেলেন এই সেদিনের বাংলাদেশের বর্ষসেরা ক্রিকেটার ও ব্যাটসম্যান।
যদি শাস্তি হয়, বুকের গহীনে কষ্টটা বাজতেই থাকে সারাটা জীবন, তাহলে এই সিদ্ধান্ত কেন!
শাহরিয়ার নাফীসের অনেক কিছু বলার আছে, আবার যেন কিছুই বলার নেই,'' কী বলবো ভাই। বলার কিছু নেই। তবে এইটুকু বলতে পারি বাংলাদেশ দলে আর খেলার পরিবেশ নেই। এই দলে খেলা যায় না। মনে আছে ২০০৭ বিশ্বকাপ? ওখানে আমাদের কী সাফল্য! দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকার মতো দলকে হারালাম। এবার আমায় বলুন, দলে যদি খেলার পরিবেশ থাকতো তাহলে দিন দিন দলের পারফরম্যান্স এমন বাজে অবস্থায় যায়? কোথায় বিশ্বকাপের পর আমরা এতদিনে আরো অনেক ওপরে উঠে যাবে, সম্ভাবনাও ছিল অথচ হচ্ছে কী? এখন আমরা ৭৪ রানেও অলআউট হই!''

অস্ট্রেলিয়া সফরটা নাফীস মিস করেছেন পরীক্ষার জন্য। তখনো হয়তো মাথার ভেতরে ঘুরছিল ক্ষোভ আর অভিমান। নাফীস যেমন বলছেন,''সেই শ্রীলঙ্কা সফর থেকেই তো শুরু। দলে আছি, খেলার সুযোগ নেই। কেন?''

এরকম আরো অনেক প্রশ্ন এখনো হৃদয়টাকে রক্তাক্ত করছে নাফীসের। মাত্র তিন বছরেই বাংলাদেশের সেরা ওপেনার, অস্ট্রেলিযার বিপক্ষে টেস্ট সেঞ্চুরি, ওয়ানডেতে দেশের সবচেয়ে বেশি সেঞ্চুরির মালিক, সামনে পড়ে ছিল আন্তর্জাতিক অঙ্গনের বৈশ্বিক পরিচিতি। হয়তো গ্রেটনেসও পেয়ে যেতে পারতেন ছোট দলের খুব বড় এক খেলোয়াড় হয়ে। ১৫ টেস্টে ২৭.০০ গড়ে ৮১০ রান, ওয়ানডেতে বাংলাদেশের পক্ষে সর্বোচ্চ ৪টি সেঞ্চুরিসহ ১৮৫৭ রান, আর বয়স মাত্র ২৩! তারপরও? মোবাইল ফোনের এপাশ থেকেও দীর্ঘশ্বাসটা স্পষ্ট শোনা যায়। সেই দীর্ঘশ্বাস ভেদ করে আসে বিষন্ন কিছু শব্দ,''দেশের পক্ষে খেলতে পারবো না, ভাবতেই কেমন যেন লাগে! হ্যাঁ, অবসর নিয়েছি আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেট থেকে। তার মানে এই না যে ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে খেলতে পারবো না। ঘরোয়ায় খেলবো।''
তাহলে আইসিএল? না। নাফীস এখনো স্বীকার করতে রাজি নন যে আইসিএল-এর টোপেই তার এমনতর সিদ্ধান্ত,''এখনো সিদ্ধান্ত নেইনি আইসিএল-এ যোগ দেব কী না। দেখা যাক কী হয়।''
এখানে সামান্য রহস্য রেখে গেলেন নাফীস, মোবাইলটা ছাড়ার ঠিক আগে আরো একটি দীর্ঘশ্বাস।
হতাশামাখা আরও কিছু শব্দ,''ক্ষোভটা খুব জমা হয়ে গিয়েছিল। এর সঙ্গে অভিমান তো আছেই। তবে ভবিষ্যত আর সংসারের কথাও ভাবতে হবে।''

ক্ষোভ আর অভিমানের যোগফলে কী হয়? একজন শাহরিয়ার নাফীসের অনাদরে, অসময়ে এভাবে আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটকে গুডবাই বলে দেওয়া?
শাহরিয়ার নাফীস শেষটায় যেন জোর করে সব চেপে রেখে দোয়া চাইলেন,'' দেশের মানুষের কাছে আমি কৃতজ্ঞ। সবাইকে অনুরোধ, দোয়া করবেন।''

Nafi
September 14, 2008, 09:48 AM
I should rub his signature off my cricket bat.

Akib
September 14, 2008, 09:53 AM
Can someone do an english translation?

Dhruvo
September 14, 2008, 09:54 AM
Everything appears in boxes with ab,bc,de on it,could someone just tell me what he said?

pappiok
September 14, 2008, 09:56 AM
S. nafis is wasted.......only 23 and don't want to play for his country.....just kill him........

Bashie
September 14, 2008, 10:04 AM
Looks like, his decision has been affected by his inner frastration and anger. Truly speaking, I thought this lad could bring some stability in BD Cricket but he was heavily ignored by some inexperienced selectors. My question is who has done better than him as Tamim's partner?

Acid testing continues for decades in BD cricket, will it really bring any good? BCB politics also sounds a real issue here.

Professionalism --- Professionalism & Professionalism thats what we fans are looking from all these players, selectors or any one involved with BD Cricket.

pappiok
September 14, 2008, 10:15 AM
still have to wait 2 more days for final decision........hopefully aftab, nafis, dhiman and reza will change their mind.......or it will be a real disaster for bd team.........

Miraz
September 14, 2008, 10:19 AM
Pandora box is slowly opening. Don't know whether these revealations will bring any good for Bangladesh cricket!!!

Ajfar
September 14, 2008, 10:22 AM
dole ache kintu khelar shujog hoi na??? ar jokhon dole khelar sojug dewa hoi tokhon je dui tin over er modhe kocha mere out hoye jaw...er karon ki???

pappiok
September 14, 2008, 10:26 AM
S nafis don't want to play for bangladesh national team........some1 plz tell him to play for kenya women team.rather than playing for boys....

Cricket46
September 14, 2008, 10:28 AM
I don't think he can blame anyone for being dropped. What is the "obhiman" for? Of late, he has not been in form. Now he tries to blame the team environment. I don't know the real story, but seems sour grapes to me. Where is the maturity? Where is the attempt to fight back into the team by performance? Really disappointing.

WarWolf
September 14, 2008, 10:29 AM
Pandora box is slowly opening. Don't know whether these revealations will bring any good for Bangladesh cricket!!!
Let's wait for the secret news and incidents happening inside the team and the board to come out publicly. I am sure we will know a lot of things which had been hidden so far.

djnaved
September 14, 2008, 10:30 AM
dole ache kintu khelar shujog hoi na??? ar jokhon dole khelar sojug dewa hoi tokhon je dui tin over er modhe kocha mere out hoye jaw...er karon ki???


100% agree

Razi
September 14, 2008, 10:33 AM
dole ache kintu khelar shujog hoi na??? ar jokhon dole khelar sojug dewa hoi tokhon je dui tin over er modhe kocha mere out hoye jaw...er karon ki???

Thik bolechen bhai, amar mone hoe SN joto shujog peyeche Bangladesher kuno player eto shujog pai nai. O joto bar deserve kore tar theke onek beshi shujog shey peyeche abong ta nie paper e onek lehka lekhi o hoeche. Kintu shei Nafees er jodi board opor khoob thake tahole amare mote shobar khoob thakar kotha.

thebest
September 14, 2008, 10:33 AM
for those who are only seeing box, here is transliteration of the main point. Before that one point to ponder I assume djnaved was talking to SN.
there is no environment of playing in the team. If there was right environment why our performance is going down. since SL tour it is happening
I do not know whether this is sour grape or genuine grief. His performance since beginning of 2007 does not warrant a place in the team. But that also holds true for Big Z, Assfool.Again if you consider Rafiq's sentiment just before his retirement and today's HB's revelation then one may conclude there is something wrong with the team.

Tigers_eye
September 14, 2008, 10:36 AM
Thank you for your service in National team for the past few years.

By the way, the thing that caught my eyes, "have to think of future and family". Bhai'rey, I know it is personal, but who asked you to marry at the tender age of 21?

Tigers_eye
September 14, 2008, 10:39 AM
This gripe only can be justified from Mohd. Rafique. No one else warrants such big talk. Performance'er belai zero ar lomba kotha.

What was his contribution against the SA win? Ah he didn't play.

Against India he scored 2 lbw.

dash
September 14, 2008, 10:41 AM
lame excuse,
the truth is he is goin for the money, but i dont blame him for that,
but its true the health bd national team is not well, there is lot of problem

BD-Shardul
September 14, 2008, 10:43 AM
Personally I am not convinced with the excuses the players to join ICL are coming up with. Excuses might be true, might not. Be it Hablu, SN or Aftab, everyone was excluded from the team becasue of their POOR form. Yes poor form, v-e-r-y poor. Before judging anyone else, people should judge themselves.

Mahmood
September 14, 2008, 10:51 AM
Losing SN is blessing in disguise. I am happy he is gone. He has shown us he is not capable to bat against strong internation teams.

Now we will have a chance bring in someone more capable.

MohammedC
September 14, 2008, 10:59 AM
No more minnow basher. What will happen to BC member Proctic. will he join ICL like his favourite player.

kalson
September 14, 2008, 11:04 AM
can some one please translate it to formal ENGLISH. thanks

akabir77
September 14, 2008, 11:10 AM
[] scores one after another zero and wants license in the BD team. I was favor of him but now it shows how selfish these players are. Yeah they dropped me while i was scoring 100s no you were dropped while you were scoring only 0's. and you want doa from us? SOB you will score another 50 zeros at ICL and get dropped from that team too Inshallah...

Spitfire_x86
September 14, 2008, 11:25 AM
Good riddance.

He wants money, nothing wrong with that. But whining about not getting chance regularly after 2 years of poor performance is totally unacceptable.

bujhee kom
September 14, 2008, 11:39 AM
hahahahahaha... what a joke.....
man, i totally agree with each and everyone of you guys above.....
this kid went to school with my little brother.....i can't beleive my ears...
i have a very strong gut feeling that most or all of these bd players are going to fail heavily in this joke of a parasite that popped out a pile of manure called ICL! these players always failed in the last few years and more than likely will continue to show poor performance. these are not professional atheles guys!
they are making the biggest mistake of their lives and they will disappear in thin air like candle smoke! if not, i am glad for them as well! Allah forgive me for mouthing off in the holy month!...

BD Tigers
September 14, 2008, 11:47 AM
i will make my comment when i know more. there might be more than eye meets.

pinch_hitter
September 14, 2008, 11:52 AM
[] scores one after another zero and wants license in the BD team. I was favor of him but now it shows how selfish these players are. Yeah they dropped me while i was scoring 100s no you were dropped while you were scoring only 0's. and you want doa from us? SOB you will score another 50 zeros at ICL and get dropped from that team too Inshallah...

lol... man, that was funny kabir bhai.

btw, are you affiliated with umkc by any chance? cause i think i might know you.

Murad
September 14, 2008, 12:00 PM
Lolz.. I didn't expect this kind of trash talking from SN. I thought he's very smart. He has good educations and a good head. But after reading his comments on the issue, I don't think he has a good head. He has good education thats all.

Shoja shapta bole dilei to hoi je.." I need money thats why I'm retiring from BD cricket and joining ICL" Eto whinning korar ki ache..

Ektaro reason shubidar na..except HB's.

Dhakablues
September 14, 2008, 12:03 PM
Its unfortunate.. doesnt matter how much you guys want to laugh at him, he did contribute to our cricket and still scored runs against major teams. What he says is not untrue. Who makes a team and who doesnt,, its still a whimsical decision by the selectors. Despite playing better cricket, Dhiman will be most likely dropped for a player like Mushfique. It doesnt matter how well you play in the NCL,, you wont be selected in the national team unless you are a young player and created a sensation; These are not untrue facts.

Lets not pray and hope that they play miserably and make "Dhaka" a laughing stock in ICL.. That would not serve us any good, Lets not get that low.

Like Miraz says,, it probably opens up the pandora's box.. Now the cricketers can speak because they have nothing to lose. And I hope BCB cleans up its act about players.

riad
September 14, 2008, 12:03 PM
Guys I am sure 90% of those players would be returned from ICL by next season ans ask for forgiveness.
Most of them were not performing here so by what golden touch they would suddenly perform like Brian Lara??
except couple of the guys [injury or politics] most of them are rightly dropped from National team.
I think after these lumps leave our cricket would be with less politics and our team would be in great shape .......... i really hope that.

Riad

simon
September 14, 2008, 12:19 PM
I don't think he can blame anyone for being dropped. What is the "obhiman" for? Of late, he has not been in form. Now he tries to blame the team environment. I don't know the real story, but seems sour grapes to me. Where is the maturity? Where is the attempt to fight back into the team by performance? Really disappointing.

Absolutely right.
There is no reason for him to show anger.
He is not in the team bcse he isn't good engh to be.
At the moment he still had a chance to come back bcse Nazim is injured,so is Raqib,JunS isn't connecting well.
So,there is no reason for him to give up.
It's just that he is greedy & selfish.
Hope he ruins ICL.
Same sentiments for Aftab.
Its a dffrnt story for plyrs like Bashar.
But these two had engh time & possibilities to come back. Disappointing.:(

tonoy
September 14, 2008, 12:48 PM
What can I say. I thought I had seen greatness in him. But I guess I was wrong.

WarWolf
September 14, 2008, 12:49 PM
What can I say. I thought I had seen greatness in him. But I guess I was wrong.
What kind of greatness? A great player or a great selfish?:timeout:

Zeeshan
September 14, 2008, 12:56 PM
sell out

wiseshah
September 14, 2008, 01:03 PM
lol, ICL has a masterplan to destroy our cricket structure.

SN: his logic doesnt make sense. In ICL, he needs some minnows, otherwise he will be kicked out

I dont know why ICL is taking this guys, who doesnt even perform for their own team. I think ICL is a real loser here

tonoy
September 14, 2008, 01:19 PM
What kind of greatness? A great player or a great selfish?:timeout:

Hey, I said I was wrong. Don't rub it in. Okay?!

Rubu
September 14, 2008, 01:35 PM
Everyone else going there is replaceable except aftab at the moment. but what they are doing for money show how much commitment national players have. we always complained about lack of commitment in national team. it coming out to be true.

BD-Shardul
September 14, 2008, 01:45 PM
[] scores one after another zero and wants license in the BD team. I was favor of him but now it shows how selfish these players are. Yeah they dropped me while i was scoring 100s no you were dropped while you were scoring only 0's. and you want doa from us? SOB you will score another 50 zeros at ICL and get dropped from that team too Inshallah...

SN wants doa of people. Surely no one will make doa for him. No one will even make bod doa for him either. But Bangladesher cricket fan der mone je ekta kosto lagbe, seotar porinoti bhalo nao hote pare.

BD-Shardul
September 14, 2008, 01:49 PM
Lolz.. I didn't expect this kind of trash talking from SN. I thought he's very smart. He has good educations and a good head. But after reading his comments on the issue, I don't think he has a good head. He has good education thats all.

Shoja shapta bole dilei to hoi je.." I need money thats why I'm retiring from BD cricket and joining ICL" Eto whinning korar ki ache..

He can do nakami as much as he can. But he can't hide the truth.

Ektaro reason shubidar na..except HB's.

Who else in this world was given or will be given a free-ride of 10 test matches despite being not performing at all? What Habla wants? He wants coach to kiss his a** kissing?

Nabil-Jpn
September 14, 2008, 01:55 PM
Ai shob beiman!! Deshprem bolte kisu nai? Eder family shoho desh theke bher kore dewa uchids. Ai rokom mentality nia sportman howa jay na. Jara form-e nai tader kotha na hoy bat dilam-like Haba (amgor successful captain kintu money chai? aro?), Alok, Reza, but Aftab, Nafis, Diman, Nazmul-era ai shob ki bole? Oder eto taka dorkar-tohole Aus gia khela shikhe IPL-jete parlo na?? Ai jonnei amago shudu pora joy dekhte hoy?? Remand-e nite hobe??

BANFAN
September 14, 2008, 01:57 PM
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শাহরিয়ার নাফীসের অনেক কিছু বলার আছে, আবার যেন কিছুই বলার নেই,'' কী বলবো ভাই। বলার কিছু নেই। তবে এইটুকু বলতে পারি বাংলাদেশ দলে আর খেলার পরিবেশ নেই। এই দলে খেলা যায় না। মনে আছে ২০০৭ বিশ্বকাপ? ওখানে আমাদের কী সাফল্য! দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকার মতো দলকে হারালাম। এবার আমায় বলুন, দলে যদি খেলার পরিবেশ থাকতো তাহলে দিন দিন দলের পারফরম্যান্স এমন বাজে অবস্থায় যায়? কোথায় বিশ্বকাপের পর আমরা এতদিনে আরো অনেক ওপরে উঠে যাবে, সম্ভাবনাও ছিল অথচ হচ্ছে কী? এখন আমরা ৭৪ রানেও অলআউট হই!''



Still some people think that we have the best coach of the world with us. :)

Nabil-Jpn
September 14, 2008, 01:59 PM
He can do nakami as much as he can. But he can't hide the truth.



Who else in this world was given or will be given a free-ride of 10 test matches despite being not performing at all? What Habla wants? He wants coach to kiss his a** kissing?

That's right ! He has no right to stay In our country. He is 100% rajakar. he never thought for his Nation, he loves only money, but not his monther land. This kind of man should not come in sports area............, hate him!!

Fazal
September 14, 2008, 02:02 PM
Who else in this world was given or will be given a free-ride of 10 test matches despite being not performing at all?


What Habla wants? He wants coach to kiss his a** kissing?

In Answer to both of your question, Ashraful, No?

BANFAN
September 14, 2008, 02:06 PM
Pandora box is slowly opening. Don't know whether these revealations will bring any good for Bangladesh cricket!!!

I hope it opens up the real picture & that's good for us if it can trigger that.

thasan
September 14, 2008, 02:13 PM
lol, ICL has a masterplan to destroy our cricket structure.

SN: his logic doesnt make sense. In ICL, he needs some minnows, otherwise he will be kicked out

I dont know why ICL is taking this guys, who doesnt even perform for their own team. I think ICL is a real loser here

nope, ICL is trying to shift the ICC power from BCCI :-D

AsifTheManRahman
September 14, 2008, 02:44 PM
Now this is a blow. He was one of my favorites. While it's unfortunate that we have to lose him so early, I can't help but criticize his reasons to quit international cricket. He obviously wasn't scoring a lot of runs and while I do believe that he should have been played in more games than he was, quitting just because he can't make it to the XI, especially when he usually is a couple of good performances away, is far from rational.

Then again, it's a decision that he's made and we'll have to live with it. Playing for the ICL is one thing and retiring from international cricket another, but it seems like the man doesn't have his heart set on Bangladesh cricket anymore. That being the case, him quitting is probably the best option for himself as well as us. Besides, we hardly know what kind of "environmental issues" behind the dressing room doors he was referring to.

al Furqaan
September 14, 2008, 03:29 PM
SN was always in the reckoning in the test lineup...

reyme
September 14, 2008, 03:37 PM
Didn't Maradona play for Napoli? Whats the big deal, them playing for a different league specially since most of are not getting any chance in the National Team?

reyme
September 14, 2008, 03:40 PM
Most of us here are working for a foreign country/company? Does it mean we are not patriotic? We all left the country for the same reason. How come these players cant do the same?

reyme
September 14, 2008, 03:43 PM
I think this is an excellent blessing in diguise. BCB can put their act together, politics may stop in the national team for time being. And last but not least, clean up the national team and pool of selectors, starting with putting the right coach in place for the national team.

BANFAN
September 14, 2008, 03:43 PM
Most of us here are working for a foreign country/company? Does it mean we are not patriotic? We all left the country for the same reason. How come these players cant do the same?

:up:

Nocturnal
September 14, 2008, 03:46 PM
Didn't Maradona play for Napoli? Whats the big deal, them playing for a different league specially since most of are not getting any chance in the National Team?

yes he did. and so does C.Ronaldo now playing for ManUtd. but playing for Napoli/Manutd didn't mean that he can't play for his country or even in domestic league. Here, that's not the case. ICL is recognise as a rebel league so far according to cricket world. We might not agree with it but that's the reality.

reyme
September 14, 2008, 03:47 PM
If we dont have enough players in the country, to back these players up, then it is time for some soul serching. We may start to think of stop playing test and ODI cricket? How embarrasing, a test playing nation can replace some old national discarded players, and make a huge hugh and cry out of it! What a shame.

reyme
September 14, 2008, 03:52 PM
Well the reality is simple. Players like Shahrear Nafees and rest are all professionals. They are going for opportunity or money, let it be a lottery. Its not like they dont want to play for national team, they just dont think their place is a sure thing in starting XI, unlike Ronaldo!

I bet if you give them a guranteed starting postion in the National team, Shahreer will think twice. Given his current form, he does not have confidence he can hold on to this post. So he is taking the easy way out.

abu2abu
September 14, 2008, 03:54 PM
Guys I am sure 90% of those players would be returned from ICL by next season ans ask for forgiveness.
Most of them were not performing here so by what golden touch they would suddenly perform like Brian Lara??
except couple of the guys [injury or politics] most of them are rightly dropped from National team.
I think after these lumps leave our cricket would be with less politics and our team would be in great shape .......... i really hope that.

Riad

The problem is it looks like the ICL want to set up a Bangladesh-specific team, like the Lahore Badshahs. So even if in a year's time these guys do ask to come back, the ICL will have to find Bangladeshi replacements for this "Dhaka Warriors" side.

In my view only Mohammed rafique, habibul bashar and tapash baisya are justified in going. their international careers are pretty much over. The others are just doing it for the money, and while I can understand the allure, it's bad news for BD cricket. Especially Reza (developing into a decent swing bowler) and Dhiman (a decent bat).

This is all the BCCI's fault and they should compensate the BCB for their ridiculous policy...

Zeeshan
September 14, 2008, 03:56 PM
Most of us here are working for a foreign country/company? Does it mean we are not patriotic? We all left the country for the same reason. How come these players cant do the same?

reyme i read all of your posts and you got some good points BUT...

you cannot compare our players profession like any other profession. they are the ambassadors of our country. they are sort of like the military. you certainly dont wanna see american soldiers leave the country and fight in some other land for some other cause....same case here.

Nocturnal
September 14, 2008, 04:08 PM
reyme i read all of your posts and you got some good points BUT...

you cannot compare our players profession like any other profession. they are the ambassadors of our country. they are sort of like the military. you certainly dont wanna see american soldiers leave the country and fight in some other land for some other cause....same case here.

Exactly my thought. People here are talking about other profeesional leaving the country, how on earth you can compare a sportsman with other profession. If only money is the key factor for sports then we can see all the Euthopian long-runners running for states or some other rich nation in olympics. it's not that sportsman are not leaving their country- but very very nominal. They really are the ambassadors of our country.That's why when sometimes our SAF gold medal winner sportsman don't comeback to BD after olympics and other sports from a rich country we all being feel asahmed, same logic,nah!.Our country invest money, time and other training facilities to you, you bound to stay with your motherland, that's ethic. You just don't ditch HER when SHE needs most! Even Aftab is still being treated by BCB's money to recover from his finger injury! SHAME ON YOU ALL @#%$%!

reyme
September 14, 2008, 04:16 PM
I totally understand the feeling....way I see it, these players are getting frustrated by not able to secure their places in the national team, and definitely the huge financial benefit. My point is his should open our eyes to get more serious of creating a strong A or B team to back these players up. Sure its a huge loss, and I am sure any country will feel the same, but we also need to understand we are now part of a professional age where money will pay a huge factor. MAybe we can also try to make a ICL in BD...

Spitfire_x86
September 14, 2008, 04:22 PM
Still some people think that we have the best coach of the world with us. :)
Performing members of the team belongs to that group.

madash
September 14, 2008, 05:07 PM
Absolutely right.
There is no reason for him to show anger.
He is not in the team bcse he isn't good engh to be.
At the moment he still had a chance to come back bcse Nazim is injured,so is Raqib,JunS isn't connecting well.
So,there is no reason for him to give up.
It's just that he is greedy & selfish.
Hope he ruins ICL.
Same sentiments for Aftab.
Its a dffrnt story for plyrs like Bashar.
But these two had engh time & possibilities to come back. Disappointing.:(

If thats the case then why are the likes of Ashraful still getting chances? He is not even being dropped as the captain, let alone captain. I am sorry but i will have to agree with SN here because if you arent happy with the team enviornment then your performance does get affected. We call him a minnow basher...how can you forget the innings he had against australia, not just the test matches but the Natwest Series where he was also a man of the match. And who is a better opener at this current Bangladesh team with tamim better than SN. Bangladesh cricket is going down, really down, and its because of the team enviornment. I have no doubt in my mind that the current boys have the ability to be at the top 5 in international cricket now, but corruption, team management, and other 'negativities' have impacted their performances.

WarWolf
September 14, 2008, 06:19 PM
reyme i read all of your posts and you got some good points BUT...

you cannot compare our players profession like any other profession. they are the ambassadors of our country. they are sort of like the military. you certainly dont wanna see american soldiers leave the country and fight in some other land for some other cause....same case here.
Spon on Gopal.

WarWolf
September 14, 2008, 06:20 PM
I totally understand the feeling....way I see it, these players are getting frustrated by not able to secure their places in the national team, and definitely the huge financial benefit. My point is his should open our eyes to get more serious of creating a strong A or B team to back these players up. Sure its a huge loss, and I am sure any country will feel the same, but we also need to understand we are now part of a professional age where money will pay a huge factor. MAybe we can also try to make a ICL in BD...
Did they do any thing special to secure their places? They have been given a lot of chances and yet they failed.

desirocker
September 14, 2008, 07:30 PM
Hey Shahriar Nafees, I am 99.99% sure that you are not gonna get my message. But this is what I

would like to say to you: "Although your recent performece is nothing but bulls*it, Still you are one

heck of a tallent. If I had the same skills, ability, and talent like you, I would have contacted BCB

and take your spot in the National Team. After that, before you go to ICL, I would contact you and

wouldn't dare to shove a baseball bat in you A$$ for what you said about my country and my

team."

ma_o_mati
September 14, 2008, 07:41 PM
Lolz.. I didn't expect this kind of trash talking from SN. I thought he's very smart. He has good educations and a good head. But after reading his comments on the issue, I don't think he has a good head. He has good education thats all.

Shoja shapta bole dilei to hoi je.." I need money thats why I'm retiring from BD cricket and joining ICL" Eto whinning korar ki ache..

Ektaro reason shubidar na..except HB's.

what r u talking about bro...of course he has good head...thats why he wants to play for icl...smart fella...

Akib
September 14, 2008, 11:07 PM
I'm guessing he just didn't want it hard enough. He probably thought he deserved a spot automatically.

Tehsin
September 14, 2008, 11:36 PM
If I am not mistaken, his cousin or uncle (Faruk) is the national selector so all this could be from the family maan-obhimaan. Mama thakteo jodi team a chance na pai, can you blame the guy for being frudtrated?

Sad thing is, I was looking forwrad to seeing Abir (SN) and Tamim open for BD. His comments were in poor taste. not usre how much of it came from him and how much was the reporters interpretation. Performance is the only key to an automatic spot in the team. It's silly to cry about not making the team after failing to perform with substantial number of opportunities.

I'm guessing he just didn't want it hard enough. He probably thought he deserved a spot automatically.

Akib
September 14, 2008, 11:38 PM
If I am not mistaken, his cousin or uncle (Faruk) is the national selector so all this could be from the family maan-obhimaan. Mama thakteo jodi team a chance na pai, can you blame the guy for being frudtrated?

Sad thing is, I was looking forwrad to seeing Abir (SN) and Tamim open for BD. His comments were in poor taste. not usre how much of it came from him and how much was the reporters interpretation. Performance is the only key to an automatic spot in the team. It's silly to cry about not making the team after failing to perform with substantial number of opportunities.

Oh, I didn't know that his uncle was a selector. That could be it. I'd be frustrated if I couldn't get a place in my uncles team.

Murad
September 14, 2008, 11:40 PM
If I am not mistaken, his cousin or uncle (Faruk) is the national selector so all this could be from the family maan-obhimaan. Mama thakteo jodi team a chance na pai, can you blame the guy for being frudtrated?

Na Cousin Faruk is not the Chief selector anymore. Onek aagei chole geche oi position theke.

Cousin thakte to SN er jaiga pakka chilo. Tokhon obossho score o valo korsilo.

MarufH
September 14, 2008, 11:43 PM
Hey Shahriar Nafees, I am 99.99% sure that you are not gonna get my message. But this is what I

would like to say to you: "Although your recent performece is nothing but bulls*it, Still you are one

heck of a tallent. If I had the same skills, ability, and talent like you, I would have contacted BCB

and take your spot in the National Team. After that, before you go to ICL, I would contact you and

wouldn't dare to shove a baseball bat in you A$$ for what you said about my country and my

team. "


Well put together.... I remember staying up so many nights... just to watch these F$$$$^^^^*&^ morons play. Disgusting.

CholCholBD
September 14, 2008, 11:45 PM
Yes Shahriar had a few great innings, and I saw a lot of potential in him, maybe as soon as the NZ series where I hoped he would come back and help Tamim out in the opening. But here is what I think of what he said:
He seems to think he deserves a place in the national team, there should not be competition for it. I think thats the point u have to let him go. U cannot be spoon fed every time in the international arena...an guarenteed spot regardless of performance. He is coming in with the wrong attitude. U have to fight for ur place in the team...esp. since u r young and inexperienced.
Dhiman clearly chickened out. He knew Miushfiq was right around the corner. He headed for the door as soon as he realized he had to fight
Habibul stopped fighting a long time ago. Period.
Forhad I thought was going somewhere and his place was pretty secure for the upcoming series. But he did not want to fight.
All these guys who dont want to fight for their place in the team were rightfully kicked off and Im happy today they are gone.
Aftab....i dont know what happened there...............that one kinda hurt....since he could have done quite a few things with this lineup. Anyways, whats past is past.

AND stop Ashraful bashing for now. Coming back to form for ASH is almost mandatory now. Tamim needs to keep it up. And Shakib. Bowlers we have MAshrafe, Razzak and Shahadat. And ofcourse Mushi...thats it..thats our team boys. Learn these names...you will be hearing them for in our every success.

cricket_pagol
September 14, 2008, 11:48 PM
Guys, please wait before you make a judgement... let's hear both sides of the story first.

cricket_king
September 15, 2008, 12:19 AM
Players like him will only harm the team. Good riddance.

I really am shocked. I don't think anyone saw this coming. We always were a crap team, but I felt that the team were happy with each other and the board. How wrong I was....

Tehsin
September 15, 2008, 12:22 AM
They were a happy bunch during the WC, I can tell you that much. Abir had a great personality, Sumon was as soft-spoken as ever, but happy. Not sure how it is now.

cricket_king
September 15, 2008, 12:42 AM
They were a happy bunch during the WC, I can tell you that much. Abir had a great personality, Sumon was as soft-spoken as ever, but happy. Not sure how it is now.

Yes lately it has turned out that way. I remember how enthusiastic Nafees was towards the team as well as his career. I realised he was losing it after that board-kicking incident. Bashar was upset after being dropped from the team. I guess the players do have reasons for not wanting to play. We fans added to that pressure - demanding their heads as soon as they fail.

Constant failures along with media and fan expectations have resulted in the biggest crisis of Bangladesh cricket since the '03 world cup debacle.

WarWolf
September 15, 2008, 01:03 AM
Yes lately it has turned out that way. I remember how enthusiastic Nafees was towards the team as well as his career. I realised he was losing it after that board-kicking incident. Bashar was upset after being dropped from the team. I guess the players do have reasons for not wanting to play. We fans added to that pressure - demanding their heads as soon as they fail.

Constant failures along with media and fan expectations have resulted in the biggest crisis of Bangladesh cricket since the '03 world cup debacle.
This is not a scenario we was only in Bangladesh. A true fighter is him who can come back. Forgot about Ganguli? Our players were not dropped being in form like him. They are not victims of conspiracy like Ganguli.

If you are really good at your profession nobody can stop you from being in the team. No body!!!! Specially in Bangladesh.

yaseer
September 15, 2008, 01:08 AM
Yes lately it has turned out that way. I remember how enthusiastic Nafees was towards the team as well as his career. I realised he was losing it after that board-kicking incident. Bashar was upset after being dropped from the team. I guess the players do have reasons for not wanting to play. We fans added to that pressure - demanding their heads as soon as they fail.

Constant failures along with media and fan expectations have resulted in the biggest crisis of Bangladesh cricket since the '03 world cup debacle.

Cricket_king, Which incident are you talking about?

WarWolf
September 15, 2008, 01:10 AM
Cricket_king, Which incident are you talking about?
Good question... I also can't remember anything like that.

yaseer
September 15, 2008, 01:12 AM
This is not a scenario we was only in Bangladesh. A true fighter is him who can come back. Forgot about Ganguli? Our players were not dropped being in form like him. They are not victims of conspiracy like Ganguli.

If you are really good at your profession nobody can stop you from being in the team. No body!!!! Specially in Bangladesh.

Specially in Bangladesh, anything can happen my friend, although you are really good at your profession. "Todbir" kore hoi na ekhane erokom kichui nai......ekhon to abar politician ra put-pobitro (?) hoye notun uddome firot astese......

cricket_king
September 15, 2008, 01:23 AM
Cricket_king, Which incident are you talking about?

Good question... I also can't remember anything like that.

This is the link fellas:

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/pakvbdesh/content/story/346831.html

Nafees was found guilty of breaching clause 1.2 of the ICC Code of Conduct which relates to "abuse of cricket equipment or clothing, ground equipment or fixtures and fittings." Nafees kicked and damaged an advertising hoarding after a misfield, but was let off with only a reprimand.

Banglatiger84
September 15, 2008, 01:26 AM
Exactly my thought. People here are talking about other profeesional leaving the country, how on earth you can compare a sportsman with other profession. If only money is the key factor for sports then we can see all the Euthopian long-runners running for states or some other rich nation in olympics. it's not that sportsman are not leaving their country- but very very nominal. They really are the ambassadors of our country.That's why when sometimes our SAF gold medal winner sportsman don't comeback to BD after olympics and other sports from a rich country we all being feel asahmed, same logic,nah!.Our country invest money, time and other training facilities to you, you bound to stay with your motherland, that's ethic. You just don't ditch HER when SHE needs most! Even Aftab is still being treated by BCB's money to recover from his finger injury! SHAME ON YOU ALL @#%$%!

I think we are getting a tad carried away, sportsmen are not like military, never.

BUET Students also study at the cost of the Bangaldeshi govt but countless numbers of them have left Bangladesh for good.....

I dont support what they did but I am pretty sure the vast majority of armchair pundits would have done the same.

What is wrong is they tried to pre-empt getting banned by resigning and thats stupid. They could gone to ICL and then get banned....they were probably poorly advised by someone..

Nocturnal
September 15, 2008, 02:25 AM
I think we are getting a tad carried away, sportsmen are not like military, never.

BUET Students also study at the cost of the Bangaldeshi govt but countless numbers of them have left Bangladesh for good.....

I dont support what they did but I am pretty sure the vast majority of armchair pundits would have done the same.

What is wrong is they tried to pre-empt getting banned by resigning and thats stupid. They could gone to ICL and then get banned....they were probably poorly advised by someone..

if you compare buet students with BD national team cricket player - i've nothing to say. free country- everyone can have their opinion! :-|

Antora
September 15, 2008, 02:28 AM
I don't know what to say......

But I'll miss him... (yes i Know he hans't been performing.. but he still remained as one of my favs.)

cricket_fanatic
September 15, 2008, 02:56 AM
Can someone please post the link for the article? I can't read it.

samjad
September 15, 2008, 03:22 AM
If these guys were good enough they would get a call in IPL, and would be able to play for the country aswell.
Because they aren't good enough , they are going to ICL. I have no problem with that.
Tamim, Mash, Ash, Sakib, Raz gonna be in IPL next seasson... so scrue you all ICL gonners.

kalpurush
September 15, 2008, 03:38 AM
Pandora box is slowly opening. Don't know whether these revealations will bring any good for Bangladesh cricket!!!
I believe it will, Miraz bhai.
Now, BCB will try to treat players fairly and accordingly...:)

Banglatiger84
September 15, 2008, 04:44 AM
if you compare buet students with BD national team cricket player - i've nothing to say. free country- everyone can have their opinion! :-|


Point is money has been spent on both by Bangladesh, albeit on a much larger amount for the cricketer...

BD-BLAST
September 15, 2008, 06:18 AM
It was a respectable move by the Mofees.

He was a burden for the team and he finally realised it. But as a career move I thinik it will do him quite well and for that I wish him best of luck. He recently did not deserve to be in the team after all.

On the otherside, the BCB will have to work harder to find new recruits to fill up the gap. Siddions will most probably loose the rest of his hair remaining on himself.

The BD team is going through a very bad patch and this retirement wont do any good for the team.

Jaybaba
September 15, 2008, 09:53 AM
Good riddence! If he doesnt want to play for BD, then get lost. Deshprem nai boila to stupid shots maira out hoy. SN said he wasnt utilized properly. He forgets he was vice captain for playing well the first year. He was dropped only after many, many failures against top teams.

bujhee kom
September 15, 2008, 10:01 AM
my prediction for SN in his first 6 innings of icl - that is if he gets picked in the playing XI -
3, 0, 7, 1, 0, 11 .... prove me wrong sn! i bet you will score even less and double embarrass me!

Fazal
September 15, 2008, 10:07 AM
I am predicting SN will score more runs than Ash in next six games. How about that?

BD-BLAST
September 15, 2008, 10:43 AM
The current scenario was like a coup. I wonder who started the mutiny and how was the master plan made. It must be some pimps from the ICL who devised this strategy luring these players.

Yes the palyers did not do a patriotic thing, but what good gets any Bangladeshi who is patroitric. The patriotric freedom players had to live a life of poverty after liberation. People like Asif the shooter are beaten up by the police. The Bangladeshi players are always ridicudled by the fans and media. You get squat for being patriotric.

The BCB is also to blame for what has happened. Ill treatment to players both young and senior is unacceptable.

It is more respectable for Habibul Bashbar and Shahriar Nafees to play for the ICL.Even though I do not like these 2 players I wish them the best of luck.

I just hope the other players do not follow suit and leave the team. y will join ICL.

But on the other side it is great to see a Bangladeshi team or Bangladeshi players being represented in a tournament.

It will be interesting to follow what happens next

Zeeshan
September 15, 2008, 10:51 AM
my prediction for SN in his first 6 innings of icl - that is if he gets picked in the playing XI -
3, 0, 7, 1, 0, 11 .... prove me wrong sn! i bet you will score even less and double embarrass me!

I sense a transposed fibonacci sequence somewhere....

akabir77
September 15, 2008, 11:04 AM
lol... man, that was funny kabir bhai.

btw, are you affiliated with umkc by any chance? cause i think i might know you.

Na bhai but I live in Kansas City.

Beamer
September 15, 2008, 11:18 AM
Sure our selectors have been less than reasonable over the years with their management of younger players. They have trashed young players often after affording them debut and then not sticking with them later. They have also given repeated opportunities to some players that probably didn't deserve it at that moment. I give the defectors that much, but saying all that, there are only 11 spots available in the team. Some one will inevitably feel slighted after being dropped out. Some has better arguments than others. But, SN has no argument. He was pathetic in WC. So was Haba. That continued all the way till the present and both had ample ample opportunities to resurrect their fortunes. Blame it on yourselves first. Its easy to blame somebody else or the alleged enviornment for your own shortcomings, but that also exposes the simple fact that you are in denial about yourself and would rather take the easy way out by blaming everything else instead of pointing the finger towards yourself.

reyme
September 15, 2008, 12:09 PM
But, SN has no argument. He was pathetic in WC. So was Haba. That continued all the way till the present and both had ample ample opportunities to resurrect their fortunes.

Haba Mia should have selected NROL: No Run Out League....

Both run out prone players playing the same league, Inzi and Haba.

fais
September 15, 2008, 12:49 PM
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oohhhh what a loss!!!

BANFAN
September 15, 2008, 12:58 PM
Performing members of the team belongs to that group.

Yes, we have seen some great performances by the team lately. :)

bdchamp20
September 15, 2008, 03:13 PM
I just heard that posh dirtbag SN talking to Channel I. He is wondering why he isn't a regular in the team for the last 1 and a half years. Hmm... I don't know could the fact that you haven't scored a fu**ing 50 against a proper team during this 18 months have something to do with? And oh yes he also hinted that Ashraful is behind this and that he doesn't like him.

Fazal
September 15, 2008, 03:29 PM
You have a point against SN. He is mainly responsible for his own demise from national team.

But then SN also has a point. The substitute players (Juniad and Mehrab) who replaced him basically did nothing,,,,less than SN did. And during that time Ash was being supported by all three groups (BCB, Siddon and Fans) for equally being non-performer like SN or even more.

And thats where he gets some pointer to argue.... a god sended gift from BCB and
Siddon.

When people see loop hole in the system, and record of inconsisntency implementing the rules, people gets frustrated for not getting those breaks (intead of working hard), and when they get frustration, they see no reason to work hard and loose hope. Thats what its happening to SN.

For example pick Farhad, every time he was given opportunity, more of less he perfomed well, then we drop him in the next series for few games and bring him back for last game, he again does well.... the same cycle repeats....Farhad with his limited skill continue to improve... instead to reward him, we punish him for nothing, tell him thanks but no0 thanks... you are not good enough.... we have other options.

These thinks have much more implication than just one player's frustration... other young players sees and find out... working hard and gradual improving is not good enough.... you need something else (rather than performance and hardwork) to get into the team.... that effect other polayers mind..... and what Captain was doing? Instead of preaching them that 'shoburey Meywa foley', our captain showed them the easy way out to get even with BCB. Thats why these young players like Farhad, Dhiman, Musharaf, left the team. It sound odd, but if you really open you mind and want to see the root cause of the issue, its not very hard to find.

KnightBD
September 15, 2008, 03:34 PM
SN should have been given more consistent opportunities to improve. I quite understand his frustration, after all he has the most number of centuries for the country (even if against minnows, esp. as we harbor some players who are even ineffective against minnows!)
Siddon is somewhat to take the blame. Same goes against Ash.

HereWeGo
September 15, 2008, 03:37 PM
One thing Nafees and all the other players should realize...
Bangladesh national cricket team is not a CHARITY....they do not play charity cricket.
There is not a soul in the bangladesh cricket board that can kick out a constant performer from the team. Yes junaid and Mehrab replaced him, but that is only after SN's constant failiure. He was included in the last series also....

Just a small message for Nafees.." Dude, just do the right thing and admit that it is only because of some easy money that u are leaving your country in a state of crisis ( a crisis bought on by your own action). And stop complaining abt BCB and Ashraful. You talk about lact of professionalism from the part of BCB for texting you, How professional is it to demand a permanent spot even after continuous failiures?? - O and one last thing.."Go to Hell" "

HereWeGo
September 15, 2008, 03:41 PM
SN should have been given more consistent opportunities to improve. I quite understand his frustration, after all he has the most number of centuries for the country (even if against minnows, esp. as we harbor some players who are even ineffective against minnows!)
Siddon is somewhat to take the blame. Same goes against Ash.

Dude he got more chances than most cricketers in any Team. PLUS lets not forget that he was still in the team when he retired. He was in the first 15 for the Australian tour. If he had to retire he should have done it when he was dropped. [edit]

zmahbub
September 15, 2008, 05:38 PM
I feel ashamed to say that I was a fan of SN. Now I have no regret to erase his name off my favorite player list. This guy should never be called up for BD national team even if he changes his mind.

Go Bangladesh....:flag:

Pundit
September 15, 2008, 10:19 PM
So this is what the [edit] faced failed opener has been up to lately.

I don't remember who it was, but one of our BC members got really upset with me after my grave digging analogy.

What is the ICL format - 2020? If so, his excuse will be - just did not get enough time to score that century.

After AShraful, the BCB gave him the most opportunities to find form - and with Tamim's arrival, BCB got the (wrong) impression that there were more Tamim's inside the golden duck, and finally slayed our faggu babu.

His story is by far the saddest - so many of us wanted him to dearly succeed and....

...what was he upto in the Carribean, when his form began to slide ? Too much Rastafarianism??

akabir77
September 15, 2008, 10:23 PM
BTW inquilab reported that he (SN) is certain to change his mind and going to join NTL. BCB has made contact with him throw 3rd party

Murad
September 15, 2008, 10:30 PM
BTW inquilab reported that he (SN) is certain to change his mind and going to join NTL. BCB has made contact with him throw 3rd party

If he joins the national team again, he will never get the respect he used to get before.

And If he changes his mind now, this will mean that he has no shame. The way he has criticized the current team and the management, he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the national team.

He had a great chance in the future to become a captain. And now if he joins again, he will never get this chance again in his entire life.

bujhee kom
September 15, 2008, 10:43 PM
BTW inquilab reported that he (SN) is certain to change his mind and going to join NTL. BCB has made contact with him throw 3rd party
is that true akabir bhai? for real? if it is true, i agree that he lost his credibility but nonetheless i will be happy!
i might even take back some of the bod-duas i gave him all night last night!

Zeeshan
September 15, 2008, 10:44 PM
he cant now swing the other way...he just cant

akabir77
September 15, 2008, 10:47 PM
I think the 3rd party is farooq ahmed is uncle... Well i am hoping for it at least one returns may be aftab will return too rest can go to hell...

I am not sue true or false inquilab reported it...

akabir77
September 15, 2008, 10:51 PM
Well he never said he will join ICL. he said he got offer but he is regining because he wants to finish MBA. it will be difficult for him but i think over time he can prove that he is 100% for BD.

But if he is coming back then ASH's blue print of becoming life time captain of bd might be dented...

They r 22/23 young polapain. matha gorom koira korey felsey aishob... farot ashley shob map (NTL team ey chance pak r na pak)

enaner
September 15, 2008, 10:57 PM
Shahriar Nafees, we dont need amateurs like you in our team anyways ... ur avg against the big 8 was a mere 17.07 .. thats like almost the same as Farhad Rezas! lmao ... who do u think u r man ...lol

BD-BLAST
September 16, 2008, 03:32 AM
SHAHRIAR AL MOFEES, you are a disgrace to your country, your family and friends and yourself. Ok the ill treatment by BCB is understood but what about your shocking performance who is that to be blamed for.You dont know how to bat any more and you sure as hell havent learned how to field. Evaluate yourself first.

I can only question, "Mofees, were you paid to play badly?"

Bangladesh doesnt need worthless players and Razzakars like you . Good bye and good ridance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cricket_pagol
September 16, 2008, 03:50 AM
Take it easy on these 20-22 year old players... they are bound to make some mistake and definitely deserve a second chance.

Banglatiger84
September 16, 2008, 03:50 AM
Yes the palyers did not do a patriotic thing, but what good gets any Bangladeshi who is patroitric. The patriotric freedom players had to live a life of poverty after liberation. People like Asif the shooter are beaten up by the police. The Bangladeshi players are always ridicudled by the fans and media. You get squat for being patriotric.



Excellent words !

Talking about patriotism is very easy and its even easier to point fingers at people for not being patriotic. These cricketers failed a test of greed, and so would most people critisizing them.

Am I angry at them resigning ? I sure am

but I also understand why they acted the way they did...

cricket_pagol
September 16, 2008, 03:51 AM
Well he never said he will join ICL. he said he got offer but he is regining because he wants to finish MBA. it will be difficult for him but i think over time he can prove that he is 100% for BD.

But if he is coming back then ASH's blue print of becoming life time captain of bd might be dented...

They r 22/23 young polapain. matha gorom koira korey felsey aishob... farot ashley shob map (NTL team ey chance pak r na pak)

Agreed...

Razi
September 16, 2008, 04:00 AM
Well he never said he will join ICL. he said he got offer but he is regining because he wants to finish MBA. it will be difficult for him but i think over time he can prove that he is 100% for BD.

But if he is coming back then ASH's blue print of becoming life time captain of bd might be dented...

They r 22/23 young polapain. matha gorom koira korey felsey aishob... farot ashley shob map (NTL team ey chance pak r na pak)

I just watched the channel one news and there was a report on SN and Alok going to India to sign the deal with ICL. The channel one reporter talked to SN and he said ''Yeah, I have made my mind and I am going to sign the deal with ICL''. He also said that ''If BCB would have tried wholeheartedly they could have stopped me as I am still eager to play for the national team, but I got only a mere sms and nothing more than it, I heard on papers and TV that they sent a letter to me, but I didn't get anything like that''. Before leaving for immigration he also added that ''I am still ready to play for my country and if BCB allows me to play after playing in ICL, I will accept that gratefully''. He also mentioned about Neil O'Brien who played for Ireland against BD earlier this year even after playing in the ICL, ''ICC has not posted any ban on ICL, it is only BCCI and some other boards who agreed to post a ban on it, I am quite sure that if BCB wants they can still make us play for BD''. On the other hand, reporters tried a lot to talk with Alok Kapali but he said he won't make any comments before signing the deal.

Nocturnal
September 16, 2008, 04:01 AM
BTW inquilab reported that he (SN) is certain to change his mind and going to join NTL. BCB has made contact with him throw 3rd party

He is already off to Delhi to sign the contract. Aloukik Kopal is also with him :mad:

[বাংলা]দেশ ছাড়ার আগে শাহরিয়ার নাফীস বলে গেলেন, ''ডাকলে ফিরবো'' :down:

ঢাকা, ১৬ সেপ্টেম্বর (বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম) --- বিভিন্ন সূত্র থেকে জানা গেছে হাবিবুল বাশার ও ধীমান ঘোষ আইসিএলের (ইন্ডিয়ান ক্রিকেট লিগ) চুক্তিতে সই করতে আগেই চলে গেছেন ভারতে। অবশ্য এই তথ্য নিয়েও আছে ধোঁয়াশা, যেটা নেই শাহরিয়ার নাফীস ও অলক কাপালিকে নিয়ে। মঙ্গলবার সকাল ৯টা ২০ মিনিটে জেট এয়ারওয়েজের ফ্লাইটে তারা দিল্লী গেছেন। যাওয়ার আগে কথা বলে গেছেন সংবাদ মাধ্যমের সঙ্গেও। অর্থাৎ এদিন দুপুর দুইটায় পদত্যাগী ক্রিকেটারদের আসতে বলে দিলেও মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা জাতীয় স্টেডিয়ামে বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের (বিসিবি) কর্পোরেট অফিসে কর্তাদের সামনে হাজিরা দিচ্ছেন না অধিকাংশই।

বিসিবি থেকে চিঠি পদত্যাগী ছয়জনকে চিঠি দিয়েই আসতে বলা হয়েছিল বলে জানানো হয়েছে। কিন্তু শাহরিয়ার নাফীসের দাবি তিনি বোর্ডের চিঠি পাননি। একারণেই বোর্ডে হাজিরা দেওয়ারও কোনো কারণ দেখেননি এই বাঁ হাতি ওপেনার। অবশ্য বোর্ডের এক শীর্ষ কর্তার এসএমএস পেয়েছেন বলে স্বীকার করেছেন তিনি। কিন্তু তারপরও বোর্ডে হাজিরা না দেওয়ার ব্যাখ্যা, ''এসএমএস তো আর যোগাযোগের আনুষ্ঠানিক উপায় হতে পারে না।"

অবসর নেওয়ার পেছনের কারণ হিসেবে তার রাগ-ক্ষোভ-অভিমানের কথা বলেছেন আগেই। তবে তাই বলে ভবিষ্যতে জাতীয় দলের হয়ে খেলার ইচ্ছেটা তার মরে যায়নি, "আমি সবসময়ই জাতীয় দলের হয়ে খেলতে প্রস্তুত। কিন্তু এখন নয়।" আর আইসিএলে খেলাকে তেমন একটা অপরাধের চোখেও দেখেন না তিনি, "আইসিএলের ব্যাপারে আইসিসির কিন্তু কোনো লিখিত সিদ্ধান্ত নেই। এটা সংশ্লিষ্ট দেশের ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের ব্যাপার। কাজেই বিসিবি যদি চায় তাহলে আমাদের জাতীয় দলে খেলাতেও পারে। এটুকু বলতে পারি আবার ডাকলে আমি জাতীয় দলের হয়ে খেলার জন্য ফিরবো।"

তার আগে আজই তাদের আইসিএলের সঙ্গে চুক্তিবদ্ধ হয়ে যাওয়ার কথা। নাফীস জানিয়েছেন চুক্তি সইয়ের পর আজ দিল্লীর সময় সন্ধ্যা ছয়টা নাগাদ তাদের নিয়ে একটা সংবাদ সম্মেলন আয়োজনেরও কথা রয়েছে। [/বাংলা]

WarWolf
September 16, 2008, 04:06 AM
I think the 3rd party is farooq ahmed is uncle... Well i am hoping for it at least one returns may be aftab will return too rest can go to hell...

I am not sue true or false inquilab reported it...
I hope Dhiman returns too. If these three returns I see Dhaka warrior having shortage of players.

Nocturnal
September 16, 2008, 04:12 AM
I hope Dhiman returns too. If these three returns I see Dhaka warrior having shortage of players.

No Chance. He is already in ICL's den with HaBa :sick:

WarWolf
September 16, 2008, 05:06 AM
He is already off to Delhi to sign the contract. Aloukik Kopal is also with him :mad:

অবসর নেওয়ার পেছনের কারণ হিসেবে তার রাগ-ক্ষোভ-অভিমানের কথা বলেছেন আগেই। তবে তাই বলে ভবিষ্যতে জাতীয় দলের হয়ে খেলার ইচ্ছেটা তার মরে যায়নি, "আমি সবসময়ই জাতীয় দলের হয়ে খেলতে প্রস্তুত। কিন্তু এখন নয়।" আর আইসিএলে খেলাকে তেমন একটা অপরাধের চোখেও দেখেন না তিনি, "আইসিএলের ব্যাপারে আইসিসির কিন্তু কোনো লিখিত সিদ্ধান্ত নেই। এটা সংশ্লিষ্ট দেশের ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের ব্যাপার। কাজেই বিসিবি যদি চায় তাহলে আমাদের জাতীয় দলে খেলাতেও পারে। এটুকু বলতে পারি আবার ডাকলে আমি জাতীয় দলের হয়ে খেলার জন্য ফিরবো।"

তার আগে আজই তাদের আইসিএলের সঙ্গে চুক্তিবদ্ধ হয়ে যাওয়ার কথা। নাফীস জানিয়েছেন চুক্তি সইয়ের পর আজ দিল্লীর সময় সন্ধ্যা ছয়টা নাগাদ তাদের নিয়ে একটা সংবাদ সম্মেলন আয়োজনেরও কথা রয়েছে। [/বাংলা]
The most selfish player ever born in BD. Not only selfish but also hypocrite. He should be banned from the team forever. Shame on you SN!!! Shame on me as I had been your supporter!!!

zainab
September 16, 2008, 06:02 AM
Channel 1 news also mentioned that all six players will have a news conference in Delhi this afternoon, so fans, whether you like it or not, upset and angry as I am, it is a done deal . I shall miss Aftab, and if I were near to him, I would have given him such a shaking, that he would have trembled for the rest of his life.

SN said that he wants to complete his MBA within 2 yrs, so it is an opportunity for him to play cricket part of the year and study the rest of the year. He is frustrated with BCB and the coach, in that frame of mind, he will never perform well for BD, so wish him well, and put yourself in his shoes.It is easy to condemn .
I liked Farhad, but he was never rewarded for hard work, so frustration and uncertainty about his place in the team plays on his mind.
Dhiman was just finding himself with his glovework, even the harsh Aussie commentators praised him, but he was always in Mushy's shadow, felt that his place was not sure also.
Alok Kapali was not in the team for a few years, felt that uncertainty and frustration that he would always be under the radar, and would always have to fight for a place.
Aftab has been plagued by injuries since the SA tour, has lost his self confidence, he is not the same Aftab, maybe he will find his true form here. He was also under the radar to return from his injury and to perform well, so he had a choice and he took it, maybe now he can study for his HSC exam and pass it.

All these players were always under the radar to perform well and they doubted their ability to do so ,and a great opportunity came along and they grabbed it. 3 yrs is a long time time and the rules will change, one day, we may see these fine young guys playing for BD again.

BD test status is secured until 2010, by that time, I hope that Siddons can really work diligently with the young players he has now and groom them properly.

Also BCB is the real culprit here, they do not know how to treat their cricketers with professionalism,dignity and respect.

simon
September 16, 2008, 06:12 AM
I don't underestand why SN would be frustrated with the coach & BCB.????
He is the one who has frustrated BCB,coach & all fans bcse of hi poor crickt since World cup07.
Any way I will miss Aftab & Reza.

bujhee kom
September 16, 2008, 06:13 AM
good riddence! good bye1 see ya!

abu2abu
September 16, 2008, 06:14 AM
Channel 1 news also mentioned that all six players will have a...

Also BCB is the real culprit here, they do not know how to treat their cricketers with professionalism,dignity and respect.

I'm sorry I can't agree with this sis. Cricket is game and there's only room for 11 people in the side. it's in the nature of the game that some poeple will be selected and others dropped. You have to fight for your place and risk losing it if you fare badly. it's the job of the selectors, coach and captain to ensure only the best players make the team.

No-one has a divine right to be selected for the side. The BCB have made mistakes and are often irresponsible and inefficient. However, they can't be blamed for not picking players who were woefully out of form (SN and bashar) or a player who has only played a handful of one day games but feels he should be automatic choice for keeper (dhiman)...

WarWolf
September 16, 2008, 06:17 AM
I don't underestand why SN would be frustrated with the coach & BCB.????
He is the one who has frustrated BCB,coach & all fans bcse of hi poor crickt since World cup07.
Any way I will miss Aftab & Reza.
Well said.

samjad
September 16, 2008, 06:20 AM
All his talks about BCB and all were fake, he was just trying to prove the point that he isn't going to ICL for money. Thats why he was complaining about sending him letters etc. As if he wouldn't go if BCB sent him a letter in a Neel Kham.

That guy is a hypocrate, why not just shut up and F**** Off. Why stir it a bit more to confuse people ?

WarWolf
September 16, 2008, 06:21 AM
I'm sorry I can't agree with this sis. Cricket is game and there's only room for 11 people in the side. it's in the nature of the game that some poeple will be selected and others dropped. You have to fight for your place and risk losing it if you fare badly. it's the job of the selectors, coach and captain to ensure only the best players make the team.

No-one has a divine right to be selected for the side. The BCB have made mistakes and are often irresponsible and inefficient. However, they can't be blamed for not picking players who were woefully out of form (SN and bashar) or a player who has only played a handful of one day games but feels he should be automatic choice for keeper (dhiman)...
Partially agree with you Abu bhai. Players are to responsible here for sure. But BCB can't skip their responsibility here.

This non-responsive BCB frustrated every one even me as a fan. They are good for nothing from the start. They knew for last one month that ICL is putting their greedy hands on our cricket. Yet BCB did nothing except irregularity and corruption. They must take their responsibility too..

Akib
September 16, 2008, 06:38 AM
These players should learn from Micheal Hussey. The guy, waited so many years before he was called up, and when he was he took advantage of it. While here in bd, we have guys who are complaining that they are being dropped after playing really badly most of the time.

zainab
September 16, 2008, 06:41 AM
Partially agree with you Abu bhai. Players are to responsible here for sure. But BCB can't skip their responsibility here.

This non-responsive BCB frustrated every one even me as a fan. They are good for nothing from the start. They knew for last one month that ICL is putting their greedy hands on our cricket. Yet BCB did nothing except irregularity and corruption. They must take their responsibility too..


Totally agree, since Ashraful informed them, they should have called the players and had a chat with them, I am sure this happened before the aussie Tour. They probably thought that it was only speculation and the swiftness of this done deal took them completely by surprise, and they are not accepting the blame. They have no professionalism in them and shows the world what a laughing stock they are, they are worse than the WI cricket board.

WarWolf
September 16, 2008, 06:45 AM
These players should learn from Micheal Hussey. The guy, waited so many years before he was called up, and when he was he took advantage of it. While here in bd, we have guys who are complaining that they are being dropped after playing really badly most of the time.
Please don't insult Hussey brother by talking about them in the same post with our group of selfish morons. Please...

Ishtylish cricketer
September 16, 2008, 07:04 AM
These moves will it make even harder to bridge the gap between ICL and ICC. As much as I hate the players for their actions, it isn't their job explain the route they take for their careers. I wonder what Ash and Mash would have done if they weren't assigned the roles of leadership. Btw, how come players from Zimbawae, Kenya or other associate countries don't get any offer?

abu2abu
September 16, 2008, 08:53 AM
Totally agree, since Ashraful informed them, they should have called the players and had a chat with them, I am sure this happened before the aussie Tour. They probably thought that it was only speculation and the swiftness of this done deal took them completely by surprise, and they are not accepting the blame. They have no professionalism in them and shows the world what a laughing stock they are, they are worse than the WI cricket board.

This is a fair point. the only thing I would add is that these BCB guys aren't very experienced (as far as I can tell). Cricket administrators in India, England and Australia tend to be successful businessmen (david morgan etc) and they are better equipped to deal with a crisis. Did youo notice how quickly the ECB set up the stanford series to counter the lure of the IPL?

Like our cricketers, our cricket administrators don't have the background to be successful and are more akin to failed businessmen!

abu2abu
September 16, 2008, 08:55 AM
These players should learn from Micheal Hussey. The guy, waited so many years before he was called up, and when he was he took advantage of it. While here in bd, we have guys who are complaining that they are being dropped after playing really badly most of the time.

Instead they are seeking to emulate Jamie siddons; a fantastic domestic player who never played for his country!

bujhee kom
September 16, 2008, 09:28 AM
i also suspect that SN thought and made up his mind to go to icl before the australian tour and because he is a total spineless wissel he lied a whole lot of crap about school exams and bs and rufused the aust tour. and then took his time and scoped things out and probably re-cruited reza and dhiman!

akabir77
September 16, 2008, 09:52 AM
i also suspect that SN thought and made up his mind to go to icl before the australian tour and because he is a total spineless wissel he lied a whole lot of crap about school exams and bs and rufused the aust tour. and then took his time and scoped things out and probably re-cruited reza and dhiman!

If he knew he would join ICL then its more logical for him to join the team as if he fails there wont be any problem and this would have been his last free ride... and he could have cooked more stuff and recruited more people while in the team...

Murad
September 16, 2008, 09:53 AM
It could be SN and his cousin Faruque who are behind all this mess.

But whatever happened, happened for good. I'm happy :-D

akabir77
September 16, 2008, 09:57 AM
... Btw, how come players from Zimbawae, Kenya or other associate countries don't get any offer?

Because they don't hold a voting rights in ICC. ICL is trying to break the Asian blog (Indian) power and trying to undermine them. Else there is no way ICL would spend this much money on players from BD... No one wants to watch BD games even if its free let alone watching them after spending that much money... Look which players they went after? most were just out side NTL team... they didn't went for golla/tusher/rajin... they know we don't care about them...they will not affect the NTL team.

djnaved
September 16, 2008, 08:21 PM
Shahriar nafeesre nangta koira pitano dorkar.....shala koy amar porikkha ache...porashuna nia besto....ICL e khelte parbo ki na jani na....r omni 3/4 diner moddhei indiai gia ICL e sign koira aslo...........afsos

MohammedC
September 16, 2008, 10:33 PM
I was wondering what would happen to SN's two brothers (cant remember their names).
Would they be judged upon their big brother's wrong doing?

bujhee kom
September 16, 2008, 11:03 PM
I was wondering what would happen to SN's two brothers (cant remember their names).
Would they be judged upon their big brother's wrong doing?
yeah, i was thinking about them two kids too. i hope they do real well in cricket and represent the bd tigers with success someday! i hope they don't get abused for their elder brother's joining the icl.

Huda
September 16, 2008, 11:32 PM
SN gave an indepth interview to NTV basically describing his hard decision to leave BD cricket.

cricket_fanatic
September 17, 2008, 12:42 AM
I don't accuse the ICL bound guys in terms of monetary matters - it's not easy to turn down such a big offer. What I absolutely resent is the all that crap that SN talked about being mistreated and blah blah to legitimise his playing in ICL. How can you be assured of a place in the XI if you don't perform? I was never a SN fan but after this ICL saga I have lost whatever respect I had of him as a cricketer and a person.

mahbubH
September 17, 2008, 02:56 AM
BCB should careful about two other brothers of this gaddar!! no need to invest to future ICL players!!

Banglatiger84
September 17, 2008, 03:41 AM
yeah, i was thinking about them two kids too. i hope they do real well in cricket and represent the bd tigers with success someday! i hope they don't get abused for their elder brother's joining the icl.


I hope so too, but many Bangladeshis feel that a crime commited by one person is a crime by everyone in his family, so let see what happens...

abu2abu
September 17, 2008, 04:17 AM
I agree with coach siddons, the current exodus is no big deal, the problem is whether this happen again next year. If so, because our talent pool (of groomed cricketers) is so small, this will seriously hamper our progress.

For example, we’ve lost farhad reza. Although he’s not a regular he has shaped into a useful swing bowler. With him gone, how many other swing /seambowling all-rounders do we have to replace him? In fact, forget about him as an all-rounder (he never did really fulfil his potential with the bat), even purely as a bowler there aren’t many who can replace him. Nazmul hossain is useful and has been around for a while, Dolar Mahmud shows promise but is inexperienced. It was reza who took wickets against Australia. Such absences will seriously affect the balance of our side.

It’s the same with Dhiman. We have plenty of other keepers around, but do we have any keepers (other than mushfique) as good as him with the gloves and the bat? Perhaps not...

We may have guys to replace the rebels, but if it gets to that, who will replace the replacements?

Razi
September 17, 2008, 06:33 AM
BCB should careful about two other brothers of this gaddar!! no need to invest to future ICL players!!

Bro, don't talk about anything before knowing it well. This is the problem with Bangladeshi people, if anyone does something wrong on his own the blame goes to everyone in his family. Currently Shahriar Nafees has no relation with his family. His early marriage was not accepted by his family and since then he has no connection with them. He stays in a different place with his wife and as far as I know he is also not allowed to go to his home, although he does sends some money per month to his parent to run the family. His father is a very honest person and a ex-major of army. I am not much sure about Iftekhar but his youngest brother Iktedar is a boy who has lot of pride for his country. He has all the potential to play for the national team and I am quite sure he will not do the same if he gets a chance. At last, I would say only one thing that a person who can betray his parent can also betray his country.

desirocker
October 9, 2008, 11:11 PM
i'm happy this jacka$$ is kicked out from the team.