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MohammedC
September 17, 2008, 08:13 AM
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ঢাকা, ১৭ সেপ্টেম্বর (বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম)--- আইসিএল-এ চুক্তিভুক্তদের ১০ বছরের জন্য নিষিদ্ধ করার সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়েছে বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড। বুধবার অনুষ্ঠিত ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের জরুরী সভায় এ সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়ে জানানো হয়েছে, এদিন থেকেই এটা কার্যকরী হবে।

''আইসিসি এবং বিসিসিআইয়ের অনুমোদনহীন আইসিএল-এ বাংলাদেশের চুক্তিভুক্ত কিংবা রেজিস্টার্ড কোনো ক্রিকেটার যোগ দিলে তাদেরকে দশ বছরের জন্য নিষিদ্ধ করার সিদ্ধান্ত হয়েছে''-- বোর্ড সভা শেষে জানিয়েছেন ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের সভাপতি মেজর জেনারেল সিনা ইবনে জামালী। যদিও কারা কারা বোর্ডের সঙ্গে চুক্তি ভঙ্গ করেছে সেটা পুরোপুরি খতিয়ে দেখার আগে ক্রিকেট বোর্ড নিষিদ্ধদের নাম ঘোষণা করছে না আনুষ্ঠানিকভাবে। এসব খতিয়ে দেখার জন্য একটা কমিটি করা হয়েছে সভায়।

কিন্তু রেজিস্টার্ড ক্রিকেটারদেরও যদি ধরা হয় তাহলে আইসিএল-এ যাওয়া সব ক্রিকেটারই গতকাল থেকে নিষিদ্ধ হয়ে গেছেন। যার অর্থ আইসিএল-এর সঙ্গে চুক্তির আনুষ্ঠানিক ঘোষণা দেয়া হাবিবুল বাশার, শাহরিয়ার নাফীস, অলক কাপালি এবং ধীমান ঘোষরা ১০ বছরের জন্য নিষিদ্ধ হয়ে গেছেন বুধবার থেকেই।

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BCB will ban contracted players for 10 years for Joining ICL

http://cricket.bdnews24.com/bangla/details.php?cid=26&id=34698#tp34698

Bangladesh bans ICL recruits for 10 years
Cricinfo staff
September 17, 2008
The 13 Bangladesh players who have signed with the Indian Cricket League (ICL) have been banned for ten years by the Bangladesh Cricket Board [BCB] from international and domestic cricket.
"The Bangladesh Cricket Board has decided to ban for 10 years any player, official, or technical staff, who participates in events not authorised by it [the board] or the ICC," a BCB spokesperson told Cricinfo. "The BCB has also barred them all from its domestic and international games and will not allow them access to any of its facilities. These decisions were taken at an emergency meeting today and are line with the ICC's policy on unauthorised cricket."
"The decision will be equally effective for contracted players or coaches if they participate in any cricket event having no approval of the ICC or the BCB," Major-General Sina Ibn Jamali, the BCB president, told reporters.
Jamali was speaking after a Bangladesh board meeting convened to make a decision when seven contracted players applied for early retirement.

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/current/story/370016.html

Sovik
September 17, 2008, 08:15 AM
this is interesting. 10 years!

mahbubH
September 17, 2008, 08:17 AM
why 10 years.. it should be for life! if another group follow their path, we will not be a test playing nation anymore. These few greedy cricketers did much more bad to our country to get a 10 year ban. They should be banned for life.

WarWolf
September 17, 2008, 08:17 AM
Let's see what they can do. I really doubt it. A good news is finally we see that we have an alive board president.

MohammedC
September 17, 2008, 08:18 AM
10 years could be cricket life for players like Dhiman,Shahriar and Alok.

Razi
September 17, 2008, 08:29 AM
All the rebel players returned from India after signing the deal with ICL...!!!

Ajfar
September 17, 2008, 08:31 AM
10 years could be cricket life for players like Dhiman,Shahriar and Alok.

they dnt' even need the whole 10 year...once their contract is over with ICL (assuming ICL still exists..n dhaka warrior still exists)..they will be history...

Tintin
September 17, 2008, 09:00 AM
who participates in events not authorised by it [the board] or the ICC

This is the line of argument that always irritates me. BCCI, BCB & co gang up and vote to ban ICL, and then turn around and pretend that ICC is some other organization high above and they could do nothing about its decisions.

fais
September 17, 2008, 09:16 AM
well deserved. exactly the kind of message we need to send

SS
September 17, 2008, 09:31 AM
But But Buttt..
we need aluokik(alok) aftab(man with flag bandana) who is capbale of "bashing"(Bashar) by becoming "Dha"man(Mushy's threat) with "minnorw" bashing(SN) and "utility allrounder" (Farhad)quality. Cant also deny the reverse swing mastery (Sharif) of SLA (Rubel) who has erratic but fast (Tapash) deliveries which requires another sub wktkeeper(Golum) to stop the ball.
Indeed this is a great loss and BCB management was "great" to managing(!) this situation by telling these players that all these qualities are useless and we have fresh faces of 19 years olds who have better qualities.
Huh ...what am i talking about (straight from Pabna office of BCB)

MohammedC
September 17, 2008, 09:49 AM
"I never thought that the BCB would impose such a harsh punishment which fits only for match fixers or drug abusers," Bashar told Reuters.
"We signed contracts with ICL to play cricket, not to indulge in any crime."


Link (http://africa.reuters.com/sport/news/usnBAN751123.html)

dash
September 17, 2008, 09:50 AM
I dont there is any official line like this in ICC,
even BCCI;'s ban to it cricketers is not anything official-
like we r good at doing things over actively,
we r the firts board to officilally say that we r banning them for 10 years
I wonder, is it with non contracted players aswell,
how can you ban some one who is not contracted for doin something, coz its not illegal,

Tigers_eye
September 17, 2008, 09:59 AM
I dont there is any official line like this in ICC,
even BCCI;'s ban to it cricketers is not anything official-
like we r good at doing things over actively,
we r the firts board to officilally say that we r banning them for 10 years
I wonder, is it with non contracted players aswell,
how can you ban some one who is not contracted for doin something, coz its not illegal,
To stop further fall out. Another batch of Tamim, Mashrafe, Ash fall out say double the money and garantee of continuing with sponsors can finish BCB.

Tigers_eye
September 17, 2008, 10:04 AM
This is the line of argument that always irritates me. BCCI, BCB & co gang up and vote to ban ICL, and then turn around and pretend that ICC is some other organization high above and they could do nothing about its decisions.
Right you are.

However, ICL has the facilities and sponsors to continue to go on.
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In USA, there were two Basketball and football (professional) leagues back in the days. All making alot of money and had quality players. Tapped in to the same market. As time passed ulitmately they merged. I hope same things happens here. However, with the viciousness and shrudness and animocity each has on to other, I doubt this will happen.

Rabz
September 17, 2008, 10:10 AM
Good move, albeit a late one.
BCB should have something on place beforehand.
Again, reactive than proactive.

10 year is just symbolic. It practically is life ban.
if you take 10 years of a professional athlete, you leave them with nothing.

Dash, my freind, we need something straight on the menu cuz no other board or country would be subjected to gruelling criticism as BCB/Bangladesh would.

Being already on the bottom, our exodus means a whole lot than any other country.

Tintin
September 17, 2008, 10:23 AM
In USA, there were two Basketball and football (professional) leagues back in the days. All making alot of money and had quality players. Tapped in to the same market. As time passed ulitmately they merged. I hope same things happens here. However, with the viciousness and shrudness and animocity each has on to other, I doubt this will happen.

BCCI could have easily cultivated ICL as a second division. More players would have gained monetarily from it, BCCI too could have profited. But BCCI wants to crush ICL. Nobody probably thought that ICL would last even this long.

Beamer
September 17, 2008, 10:38 AM
Somewhat inevitable. There is no point at this stage of our cricket development to go against the diktat of BCCI. That's the sad reality. Even ICC tows their line. Its unfortunate but that is the reality of the situation. We have bigger issues at hand as well such as protecting our test status. Just as India had a hand in giving it to us, it can just as easily vote against us. It won't be too hard to find support from other nations if that happens. We also have to keep in mind that it is the IPL where we want our players to end up. Ultimately, we have to establish ourselves as a winning cricket nation, so we don't need dependency on others casting votes. Ten years is harsh but expected. We can't afford to leave any wiggle room. At least the future defectors will weigh the cons of leaving a lot harder. Hopefully, hoping against hope, that one day ICC/BCCI will recognize ICL and this will come to an end.

One other thing to ponder is the acrimonious words by some 'rebels' as their parting shots leave no room for them to come back in the national fold. Ban or no ban, the stuff they said about fellow team mates, coaches etc is reason enough for not to allow them back. Hypothetically speaking, lets say, one or two young players are back in the mix in future, there is no guarantee that their ex-future mates will welcome them back. Their Bangladesh career is over. They know it. We know it and as Jamie Siddons said, there is no looking back. We move forward..

dash
September 17, 2008, 10:53 AM
To stop further fall out. Another batch of Tamim, Mashrafe, Ash fall out say double the money and garantee of continuing with sponsors can finish BCB.

I tell you what, if mash , ash nd tamim gets more bgger offer that ban will not prevent it,

Wht prevented aus, nz, pak wi . saf players from plying icl is not the threat of the ban but ipl,

BCCi saw it coming nd thts y they produced ipl to counter it, same as the stanford series, these is keeping the status quo,

Now there ws a big vacume in bd crit as no body practically got the share of the ipl, so something had to happen, nd so even for the future bccb has to come up wid something more than just the ban inorder to stom such exodus

Tigers_eye
September 17, 2008, 11:00 AM
The bad side of the 10 year ban is:

I so wished Mohammad Rafiq to be out curator.

I so wished Habibul Bashar would have a training facility set up in Khulna division (like Khaled Mashud in Rajshahi) and eventually be the director of that division when decentralization of power, money happens.

I so wished these respected record holding seniors would give back what experienced they had to build our young generations.

Those doors are closed (locked) now. BCCI lost the key.

Fazal
September 17, 2008, 11:04 AM
Why we should we have to act like BCCI left hand man and do the dirty laundry for them that I don't understand.Its a fight between BCCI and ICL and we should let them fight it out. we shouldn't vote against ICL in ICC in the first place and make their fight as our own fight.

BCB should havebeen neutral. And if they were under pressure they should just give the players a token 5 ODI ban after come back home. We have enough problem already that BCB is unable to handle. Whats the point creating more problems for them? So that they become the favorite Chela of BCCI?

BCB should take care of their own player's first ....whether its national or revolted players.... we have no fight with ICL..... and we should never have any fight with ICL. Let the big brother ICC and BCCI deal with their own problem.

Beamer
September 17, 2008, 11:05 AM
Not to mention none will ever become selectors. At least we will still have Bulbul and Chacha..

wiseshah
September 17, 2008, 11:15 AM
sharif, tapash, manju, mahbubul karim, golam mabud, mosharraf rubel-----are not that great loss and can be replaceable

bashar, rafiq-retired age
only loss is--- aftab, dhiman, farhad reza

no comments abt--- nafees, alok (due to inconsistency)

nazim uddin--will miss him at 20/20

SS
September 17, 2008, 11:15 AM
Do you think this ban will have any impact on the players who went after money and will get that amount of money. BCB needs to do more than just banning. If they can't figure that they should also get banned. ICL will come after more players and we need to stop them.

Dhakablues
September 17, 2008, 11:21 AM
It is harsh... Which country has imposed such ridicilous punishments to their players? BCB court marshalling players is an evidence that they were helpless and frustrated that they couldnt find a creative solutions. It was an ego battle than thinking of how to confront the situation. Even to date, ICC has not denied ICL nor has it ruled it out completely. A tournament not approved by BCI doesnt mean its against ICC. BCB is now a just worthless group of dumb-a$$.. well I guess we have to wait for a new board in January and clean out all these rubbish..

tonoy
September 17, 2008, 11:23 AM
10 years? What the hell man!!! Damn IT, Im still at stage 3.

AsifTheManRahman
September 17, 2008, 11:29 AM
Why we should we have to act like BCCI left hand man and do the dirty laundry for them that I don't understand.Its a fight between BCCI and ICL and we should let them fight it out. we shouldn't vote against ICL in ICC in the first place and make their fight as our own fight.

BCB should havebeen neutral. And if they were under pressure they should just give the players a token 5 ODI ban after come back home. We have enough problem already that BCB is unable to handle. Whats the point creating more problems for them? So that they become the favorite Chela of BCCI?

BCB should take care of their own player's first ....whether its national or revolted players.... we have no fight with ICL..... and we should never have any fight with ICL. Let the big brother ICC and BCCI deal with their own problem.
I agree. The rebels should never have retired and the BCB should never have imposed this ban. It doesn't make sense to ban a bunch of cricketers for playing cricket. The BCCI needs our vote at ICC meetings and the ICC doesn't have the balls to suspend our test status. The BCB should have known this.

thebest
September 17, 2008, 11:45 AM
Do you know the funny thing in ESPN, HB is saying our players would learn playing in ICL when they failed to learn playing with the best of the best

bujhee kom
September 17, 2008, 11:48 AM
i said a lot of aweful things about our players who joined icl and put the national team down or critisized it in order to justify it, at least in their media presentation!
i sincerley am very sorry that i expressed such hateful things about them. i was very very hurt and angry and i felt betrayed, this was my justification to curse them and i was wrong to do that! but i feel very sad now that they ARE part of my bd tigers and always will be and i will always love them! i will still hold a minimum grudge against them but i forgive them, as some of our kind bhais here at bc(including tigers_eye bhai and fazal mama) again and again reminded us that they are only playing cricket and making a living! you are right! we will move on, our team is as strong as forever and i wish all bd cricketers the best!
only thing is i will always pray a little bit harder for the ones who will play under the red and green (BD), whether it's the national, 'a', academy, under-19 or 17 or 15!
may Allah bless BD!
may Allah bless the tigers and all bd cricketers!
may Allah give us a series win against a super-8! soon!
may Allah forgive me for my bitterness!

Zeeshan
September 17, 2008, 11:51 AM
Draconian.

Rabz
September 17, 2008, 11:59 AM
I have a question, if you have gracefully retired from international cricket before the whole ICL debacle, aka Rafiq and Rafiq only, does this ban applicable to you also?

I think the Board should clarify this point very clearly.

He was not amongst the contracted player and technically, did not break any rules. He can not be considered "rebel". After all, his service was exhausted and was relieved of his duties. He already left the team for good, WITH GRACE.

So, where does Rafiq stand?

patriot
September 17, 2008, 12:04 PM
BCB has been harsh by imposing a 10 year ban on HB and Rafique .Perhaps a 3 year ban on them could have made things even , given their contribution to our cricket.

I am sure this 10 year banning thingy will be overturned once ICL gets recognition by ICC or BCCI in a couple of years time and perhaps then we might see a return of Aftab Ahmed back to the national team.Scumbag Shariar Nafees can apply for Indian Citizenship in the mean time.

Murad
September 17, 2008, 12:05 PM
Valo hoise..

I guess it wasnt for only joining ICL.

These contracted players broke the code-of-conduct of their contracts with BCB. They cannot retire just like this.

I think thats why the got a 10 year ban.

Tintin
September 17, 2008, 12:08 PM
They cannot retire just like this.

The punishment for retiring is a ban ? :waiting:

Kabir
September 17, 2008, 12:08 PM
He [Rafiq] was not amongst the contracted player and technically, did not break any rules. He can not be considered "rebel". After all, his service was exhausted and was relieved of his duties. He already left the team for good, WITH GRACE.

Very good question. Technically, he shouldn't be included. No?

Murad
September 17, 2008, 12:14 PM
The punishment for retiring is a ban ? :waiting:

No.

Now two things got together.

They have retired without giving any good reason. Then they have criticized the board, management and the coach before their resignation was accepted. Then they were noticed by the Board to come and meet them but they didn't go.

And now they have joined the ICL.

Board can't accept the resignation without any specific reason behind this.

Now they have broken all the rules. Hence the 10 year ban.

I know its too much but this will stop other players interested to join the ICL. ICL is not a bad league but all 10 boards as agreed to ban the players if they join.

mafizraju
September 17, 2008, 12:21 PM
I knew it. That BCB will try to make an example out of this like a ruthless ruler. I dont like this court marshal way of punishing, and such blanket punishment. This is insane. BCB showed one more time how they seriously lack visions. And about former players. CWAB is a sell out to BCB official. I think these players can go to the court and might even win. This is clearly insane. This Board is doing some serious damage. I want rather Jamali and Lipu Out !!!

I liked HaBa's interview, although 10 years doesnot affect him too much, but he still saying WE, instead of presenting argument for himself.

samjad
September 17, 2008, 12:42 PM
I just saw on the news, Rubel saying: " it's simple, I had an employer now I got a new one." He wasn't happy that we called them traitors.

samjad
September 17, 2008, 12:43 PM
I agree, I think it was too harsh for Rafiq

Murad
September 17, 2008, 12:46 PM
Rubel's case is different. Board didn't spend much to groom him. He can't be a called a traitor.

Rafique can't be called a traitor as well. He is a retired cricketer and its his right to earn some extra money for his future.

Dhakablues
September 17, 2008, 12:50 PM
This is really funny.. "10 year Ban on the retired players" ;

I dont think legally this has a merit because ICL is not an outlawed org by ICC. BCB should follow ICC guidelines not BCI's... or BCB is actually BCI's subsidiary?

SS
September 17, 2008, 12:51 PM
I just saw on the news, Rubel saying: " it's simple, I had an employer now I got a new one." He wasn't happy that we called them traitors.

its simple, we called him traitor and now we will call him mirjafar...we are not happy that he did not like his previous name.

Baundule
September 17, 2008, 01:21 PM
That's the end of Bangladesh cricket. We will lose test status pretty soon. ICC will not want it; but our performance will force them. Cricket dies in Bangladesh, more miserably than football.

Tigers_eye
September 17, 2008, 01:28 PM
That's the end of Bangladesh cricket. We will lose test status pretty soon. ICC will not want it; but our performance will force them. Cricket dies in Bangladesh, more miserably than football.
it doesn't matter what ICC wants. It matters what BCCI wants. So our future is on safe hands. Unless India goes for Nepal, Maldives and Afganistan.

thebest
September 17, 2008, 01:28 PM
what is the fuss? The players ditched their old employer and old employers just declared them persona non grata in their affairs. It is happening all over the world. BCB is actually kind. Most of the employers declared their employee persona non grata for life. BCB did it for 10 years. So the u19 guy still has the chance. They make the cardinal sin of bad mouthing against the old employer. None take it kindly.

Fazal
September 17, 2008, 01:45 PM
It's not even 2 years that Hasina, Khaleda and Tarek were thrown in jail. But they are back in action with full fan support.

So never say never again.... who knows, if histroy repeat itself, these player will be back in action with "Golayee Phuler Mala".

BANFAN
September 17, 2008, 01:50 PM
This is really funny.. "10 year Ban on the retired players" ;

I dont think legally this has a merit because ICL is not an outlawed org by ICC. BCB should follow ICC guidelines not BCI's... or BCB is actually BCI's subsidiary?

True. :)

BANFAN
September 17, 2008, 01:55 PM
I agree. The rebels should never have retired and the BCB should never have imposed this ban. It doesn't make sense to ban a bunch of cricketers for playing cricket. The BCCI needs our vote at ICC meetings and the ICC doesn't have the balls to suspend our test status. The BCB should have known this.

Over reaction by BCB.

I think BCB will be dragged to court at some stage.

Tigers_eye
September 17, 2008, 01:58 PM
"dhormey kono jobordosti nai".

ar Cricket'a asey?

Funny how people think. Looks like Cricket > dhormo.

SS
September 17, 2008, 03:14 PM
PCB also banned the members who joined the ICL
http://www.cricdb.com/archive/international/news/detail.php?nid=888

kaisermatin
September 17, 2008, 03:25 PM
A well deserved punishment for the betrayers. Make sure they are not playing in any league or even exhibition matches in Bangladesh.

Green Tea
September 17, 2008, 03:27 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/Logo_Dhaka_Warriors.JPG

The logo of Dhaka warriors is a little bit scary. It looks like the front page of a horror book.

Baundule
September 17, 2008, 03:42 PM
Rohan Gavaskar plays in the ICL and his father is an influencial person in the ICC. And here it seems some fans will be happy if Aftab and Co. are hanged. :D

AsifTheManRahman
September 17, 2008, 03:44 PM
"dhormey kono jobordosti nai".

ar Cricket'a asey?

Funny how people think. Looks like Cricket > dhormo.Well, Tendulkar > God to some ;)

kalpurush
September 17, 2008, 03:51 PM
Why we should we have to act like BCCI left hand
.

Otherwise Bangladesh would lose its Test status. It is as simple as it could be.;)

Green Tea
September 17, 2008, 03:51 PM
AsifTheManRahman why you choose the logo of Dhaka Warriors as your Avatar? Do you support ICL?

Akib
September 17, 2008, 03:53 PM
It reminds me of those crappy sci-fi or fantasy shows/movies.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/Logo_Dhaka_Warriors.JPG

The logo of Dhaka warriors is a little bit scary. It looks like the front page of a horror book.

Fazal
September 17, 2008, 04:00 PM
Otherwise Bangladesh would lose its Test status. It is as simple as it could be.;)

Not necesarrily. And they loose by having a bacvk bone, so be it.


And they can loose it any way if they continue to fail to produce a quality product in thye field... you can duck but you cannot hide for soo long... eventually we have to produce to keep our TEST status with or withour BCCI's help.

WarWolf
September 17, 2008, 04:02 PM
its simple, we called him traitor and now we will call him mirjafar...we are not happy that he did not like his previous name.
Dhaka Mirjafars.

JamesBond
September 17, 2008, 05:39 PM
This is a really BRAVE decision. I support it. Plus we dont need these players anyways. We still have a good team without them. Nafees hasnt played a good game for like never... no comments on Habibul.. We can get good wicket keepers... Let alone Tapash and Alok Kapali.. Our team is intact.. They should have been thrown out anyways.. Its good that they didnt get players like Tamim or Mash.. or Ash.. they got second class players..

Tehsin
September 17, 2008, 06:07 PM
How is it a brave decision? It's not like they (BCB) were defying anyone.
The sad thing is, BCB is not getting the HEAT it deserves for this whole situation.

Plus, banning Rafique was a complete idiocy. Proving once again that this guys are not level headed and still has a long way to go towards professionalism.

WarWolf
September 17, 2008, 06:11 PM
I agree with Tehsin bhai to some extent. I do believe that these guys deserves a good punishment. At the same time I do believe that the board cannot get away so easily. The management must take the liability.

AsifTheManRahman
September 17, 2008, 06:12 PM
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Sorry, this doesn't get old.

Faisal
September 17, 2008, 06:45 PM
lol very funny

cricket_pagol
September 17, 2008, 08:27 PM
Why we should we have to act like BCCI left hand man and do the dirty laundry for them that I don't understand.Its a fight between BCCI and ICL and we should let them fight it out. we shouldn't vote against ICL in ICC in the first place and make their fight as our own fight.

BCB should havebeen neutral. And if they were under pressure they should just give the players a token 5 ODI ban after come back home. We have enough problem already that BCB is unable to handle. Whats the point creating more problems for them? So that they become the favorite Chela of BCCI?

BCB should take care of their own player's first ....whether its national or revolted players.... we have no fight with ICL..... and we should never have any fight with ICL. Let the big brother ICC and BCCI deal with their own problem.

I agree with you. Our cricket board lacks a spine, that is the unfortunate reality.

cricket_fanatic
September 17, 2008, 09:54 PM
A couple of points:

Firstly, there is no way Rafique falls under that ban. Retired players such Lara, Inzamam and Cairns played in ICl and I don't think any of them got banned.

Secondly, however harsh and knee jerk reaction this ban may seem, BCB could not afford to sit idle. Let's say the players did not get banned, alright. Now fast forward 3 years and imagine Aftab, SN & Alok getting reselected for the national team. What sort of message that would convey to the other national cricketers and to the future generation? That, it is alright to retire at a time when the national team's performance is being heaviliy critisized with some tough series coming up and then just stroll back into the team 3 years later with a fatter bank balance? How is that fair to the other blokes who did not take up the offer and stayed with the national team?

The BCB, in terms of handling the whole issue, has been retard as usual. This could have been stopped had they paid attention to the matter when Ashraful was approached but something had to be done at this point. I hold no grugde against the ICL bound cricketers; they knowingly made a choice so now they have to be ready to accept the consequences of that choice.

Murad
September 17, 2008, 10:10 PM
A couple of points:

Firstly, there is no way Rafique falls under that ban. Retired players such Lara, Inzamam and Cairns played in ICl and I don't think any of them got banned.

Inzamam and other Pak playerers were banned from playing Domestic cricket in Pakistan.

Secondly, however harsh and knee jerk reaction this ban may seem, BCB could not afford to sit idle. Let's say the players did not get banned, alright. Now fast forward 3 years and imagine Aftab, SN & Alok getting reselected for the national team. What sort of message that would convey to the other national cricketers and to the future generation? That, it is alright to retire at a time when the national team's performance is being heaviliy critisized with some tough series coming up and then just stroll back into the team 3 years later with a fatter bank balance? How is that fair to the other blokes who did not take up the offer and stayed with the national team?

I like this part. You've made an excellent point here. :up:

istiak
September 17, 2008, 10:14 PM
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Is BCB merging with BCCI? ICL has not banned by ICC, so why BCB is banning these players? Why BCB has to follow the ego-logistic problem of Lalit Modi and associates?

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Come on. Support this move by these brave individuals.......

istiak
September 17, 2008, 10:23 PM
A well deserved punishment for the betrayers. Make sure they are not playing in any league or even exhibition matches in Bangladesh.

You sound like Lolit Modi! What kind of betrayal these players have done? IPL is ok and ICL is bad. Its a fight between BCCI with ICL, nothing to do with us.
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Trigger_Tiger
September 17, 2008, 10:34 PM
You sound like Lolit Modi! What kind of betrayal these players have done? IPL is ok and ICL is bad. Its a fight between BCCI with ICL, nothing to do with us.
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Thank you!

ononto
September 17, 2008, 10:45 PM
Do you think this ban will have any impact on the players who went after money and will get that amount of money. BCB needs to do more than just banning. If they can't figure that they should also get banned. ICL will come after more players and we need to stop them.

I understand fazal's point of taking BCCI's fight as BCB's own fight, I also support some other comments regarding why would BCB pose such a ban which could only be posed upon criminals and match fixers.

To me, after having a successful career and serving the nation upto the point where the nation doesn't want anymore from a player, it's OK to choose your alternative career. In that perspective, Bashar's and Rafique's action aren't that bad, though they havn't quit international cricket with pride.

But what makes players like Aftab and Nafees who aren't in that bad form which will push them to think about ICL? If they think their places in the national side looks loomed, it's their incompetency. And it's a shame to them they couldn't even survive in a troubled team like Bangladesh where few players possess quality and mental strength to compete in international cricket.

And players like Dhiman, Farhad from national side with few other academy players who haven't played a single international match, I only can have hatred sympathy for them. These servents havn't serve their country while took all facilities to come up to the point while they can server others for money. Traitors. National Traitors.

HereWeGo
September 17, 2008, 10:45 PM
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Is BCB merging with BCCI? ICL has not banned by ICC, so why BCB is banning these players? Why BCB has to follow the ego-logistic problem of Lalit Modi and associates?

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Come on. Support this move by these brave individuals.......


BCB banned this players because because these players decided to ditch the country en masse to play for a league outside bangladesh. They even neglected to show up at the meeting orrganized by BCB. They did not return any calls made by BCB either. They bad mouthed about BCB to all the local dailies. Now think of u doing the same with your employer, what would ur employer have done?

yaseer
September 17, 2008, 10:54 PM
I tell you what, if mash , ash nd tamim gets more bgger offer that ban will not prevent it,

Wht prevented aus, nz, pak wi . saf players from plying icl is not the threat of the ban but ipl,

BCCi saw it coming nd thts y they produced ipl to counter it, same as the stanford series, these is keeping the status quo,

Now there ws a big vacume in bd crit as no body practically got the share of the ipl, so something had to happen, nd so even for the future bccb has to come up wid something more than just the ban inorder to stom such exodus

:up: spot on....

This BAN can do nothing.BCB needs to plan to do something, think and work on it, Banning players in this way just only supports the players words that how hurshly and neglegentyl BCB thinks. If ASH and Tamim are offered of 10 crores they will just think to choose about BD or ICL, this ban will do nothing.

BCB needs to come up with some actions. As they made themselves "Chamcha" of BCCI by following their direction for Banning player, now they should strongly peruse so that maximum number of BD players should play next IPL. Make a give and take relation with them. Or BCB must come up with their own plan for starting BPL (Bangladesh Premiere League).

So, If BCB thinks by banning players, they have done their job and now no further player will join ICL, then they are the biggest fool of the world.

yaseer
September 17, 2008, 10:59 PM
Why we should we have to act like BCCI left hand man and do the dirty laundry for them that I don't understand.Its a fight between BCCI and ICL and we should let them fight it out. we shouldn't vote against ICL in ICC in the first place and make their fight as our own fight.

BCB should havebeen neutral. And if they were under pressure they should just give the players a token 5 ODI ban after come back home. We have enough problem already that BCB is unable to handle. Whats the point creating more problems for them? So that they become the favorite Chela of BCCI?

BCB should take care of their own player's first ....whether its national or revolted players.... we have no fight with ICL..... and we should never have any fight with ICL. Let the big brother ICC and BCCI deal with their own problem.

Fazal, spot on too brother......

By banning players, BCB is 1st board who has made ICL their direct enemy. Now if ICL wants to take revenge by taking Tamim, ASH, Mash, then what BCB will do? Surely ICL has the better financial strength than BCB.

Stop being Chamcha of BCCI by following their order. Just remember "Indians will never want Bangladesh to prosper in any sort of field." Its better BCB understands how harmful BCCI are before BCCI destroys our cricket.

yaseer
September 17, 2008, 11:04 PM
Want to share a link from today's Prothom alo.

http://www.prothom-alo.com/mcat.news.details.php?nid=MTE4NjAz&mid=OA==

Answering an e-mail from PA, ICC representative replied, "ICC neither given recognition nor banned the ICL, They are still in their way to find a proper solution."

HereWeGo
September 17, 2008, 11:24 PM
. Just remember "Indians will never want Bangladesh to prosper in any sort of field

Ajaira....uncalled for totally....

djnaved
September 17, 2008, 11:27 PM
rebel cricketers are on fire against COAB...jotil facts...lol

http://www.prothom-alo.com/mcat.news.details.php?nid=MTE4NjAy&mid=OA==

MohammedC
September 17, 2008, 11:28 PM
Dont care about ICL,IPL,BCCI,ICI etc.
Only care about Bangladesh Cricket

yaseer
September 17, 2008, 11:35 PM
Ajaira....uncalled for totally....

So, what do you think?? They are our best friends? then you are in darkness.

Tehsin
September 17, 2008, 11:39 PM
Good on Prothom-Alo. The ICL cricketers did ask some very valid questions.

rebel cricketers are on fire against COAB...jotil facts...lol

http://www.prothom-alo.com/mcat.news.details.php?nid=MTE4NjAy&mid=OA==

djnaved
September 17, 2008, 11:44 PM
BCB banned this players because because these players decided to ditch the country en masse to play for a league outside bangladesh. They even neglected to show up at the meeting orrganized by BCB. They did not return any calls made by BCB either. They bad mouthed about BCB to all the local dailies. Now think of u doing the same with your employer, what would ur employer have done?


i am having a doubt there. Our players(rebel) are bangladeshi, and they are representing the country (for example: injamam's lahore badshah's) to ICL. dhaka warriors team and bangladeshi national team is like same....both teams represent our country bangladesh, yah our rebel players refused to play in national teams because of problems with coach, captain, board, etc.....( hey i'm not with the rebel players, but still have some doubts)

ekta kotha bangladeshira shobshomoi bole je bangladeshira shobshomoy emotional hoi...habibul basharer khettreo ta ghoteche...coacher shathe shomossa howar por theke oti emotional hoye ICL e jog dilo....r lipu bole sourav ganguli ke dekhe shikthte...arre shourav hoilo kolkatar bangali ar amra hoilam bangladeshi...kolkatar bangali r bangladeshir moddhe parthokko ache........


jani na bhai ki lekhlam, jeigula ajke hotat mone holo sheigula express korlam.....

HereWeGo
September 18, 2008, 12:01 AM
So, what do you think?? They are our best friends? then you are in darkness.

When did Bangladesh last do something good for another country as an act of selfless gesture. You think Bangladesh sends troop to Siera leone out of love for the people there?? Neways i don wanna go off topic. just want to say that our test status and the leap that we made in cricket has lot to do with the contribution of BCCI. Jagmohan Dalmiya was responsible for our test status. Yes they had their reasons but their reasons ended up benefitting us too. U can also say the same thing about 1971. Neways it is not nice to brand a country as a foe. I can give you more examples of help that we recieved from India in recent past.

You can have issues with BCCI, I have issues too but I am not an extremist...

yaseer
September 18, 2008, 12:14 AM
When did Bangladesh last do something good for another country as an act of selfless gesture. You think Bangladesh sends troop to Siera leone out of love for the people there?? Neways i don wanna go off topic. just want to say that our test status and the leap that we made in cricket has lot to do with the contribution of BCCI. Jagmohan Dalmiya was responsible for our test status. Yes they had their reasons but their reasons ended up benefitting us too. U can also say the same thing about 1971. Neways it is not nice to brand a country as a foe. I can give you more examples of help that we recieved from India in recent past.

You can have issues with BCCI, I have issues too but I am not an extremist...

Look, I am also not an extremist. I suggest to read your post carefully, you yourself contradict your thoughts there.
I don't want to go further off-topic by giving my point of view in the issue.

checkmate
September 18, 2008, 02:58 AM
Interesting Ban of 10 years,not life time and plus they metioned if they come back now they will consider,seems like 10 years is to please BCCI,and then if some of these players get going well,they have a chance to return esp the U19s.though personally i doubt they might be banned for 10 years in real.if these guys perform well,BCB will be under more pressure,and they might start pushing ICC to legalise ICL.already BCCI has taken a side seat.read Daily star.but if they fail,story might be different

Abid_Khan
September 18, 2008, 03:36 AM
Good move by BCB and kick the greedy players out

Antora
September 18, 2008, 05:18 AM
Nice move... me like it :D

zainab
September 18, 2008, 06:23 AM
It's not even 2 years that Hasina, Khaleda and Tarek were thrown in jail. But they are back in action with full fan support.

So never say never again.... who knows, if histroy repeat itself, these player will be back in action with "Golayee Phuler Mala".


Wow! well said!

I am an outsider here, but I blame BCB for this debacle. They sat on their laurels and did nothing about it when Ashraful informed them. They probably in their wildest dreams never thought that the cricketers will leave BD, and now to exact revenge, they have placed a ban for 10 years from all forms of cricket in BD. What hypocrosy on the part of these smug board officials.
They failed miserably in their roles of employer, sympathiser and everything else.
If these guys were treated fairly and with some sort of dignity, they would not have taken such a bold step when they knew that the door will be shut to them.
I dont think it is the money that have made them do this, it is their frustration with the whole organization and a chance to play cricket and maybe reinvent themselves

I also place a lot of blame on Siddons, in the history of BD cricket, he is the only coach who have belittled these players especially Bashar, and the only coach where players have left the national team of their own free will. If BCB dont open their eyes, Siddons will destroy BD cricket, BD will lose their test staus and become an Associate team once again, where they will have to perform and fight for places in the international arena in order to qualify to take part in all the major events.

I hope the members here dont get mad at me, I am also upset that these cricketers have left and moreso how they have left, especially Aftab, but there are two sides of a coin, it is easy to play the blame game.

thebest
September 18, 2008, 08:21 AM
I am saying in other thread that Lipu is the main culprit of this debacle by not acting promptly after receiving info from the fool. But I do not think BCB did anything wrong. Dhaka Warriors supporter in one hand claiming that players have every right to choose their employer on the other hand also claiming they should be allowed to attend in the event sponsored by their previous employer. You can not have both way. It has nothing to do following with BCCI's party line though they followed.

samjad
September 18, 2008, 08:50 AM
Since this new board took controll things started to fall apart. I am in a dilemma, like swing voters in US at the moment.
I can't forgive players to take such a decision and I can't accept BCB's incompetence with handling the matter.
It's like donno who to hate most Hasina or Khaleda ? BCB or Traitors

patriot
September 18, 2008, 09:17 AM
Dhaka Warriors supporter in one hand claiming that players have every right to choose their employer on the other hand also claiming they should be allowed to attend in the event sponsored by their previous employer. You can not have both way. It has nothing to do following with BCCI's party line though they followed.

There is no such thing as present and past employer in sports.In football we have the same player playing for his club and country in the same week with top priority given to Internationls.The same goes for English county and IPL players.So what's wrong in having Aftab Ahmed playing for us and the ICL? Solely Blame those responsible for banning the ICL in an attemt to stamp their Dominance.

thebest
September 18, 2008, 09:31 AM
There is no such thing as present and past employer in sports.In football we have the same player playing for his club and country in the same week with top priority given to Internationals.The same goes for English county and IPL players.So what's wrong in having Aftab Ahmed playing for us and the ICL? Solely Blame those responsible for banning the ICL in an attemt to stamp their Dominance.
There is difference between cricket and football. In football club is the employer not the FA. That is why there is club versus country debate. In football club rivalaries energies the supporter Like ManU - Liverpool; East Bengle - Mohon Bagan. In cricket that is country rivalries like Ashes, India- pak.
I do agree we are in between a markeeting war of Essel Group and BCCI; But at the end Aftab and co resigned from BCB and BCB had every right to do within their capacity regarding their former employee. Remember BCB did not ban them first, they took retirement first. Now why are you trying to make a mountain out of mole hill

MohammedC
September 18, 2008, 12:46 PM
Aftab and others were told they will be banned for 6 months. Never they thought it would be for 10 years. When asked who is behind it Aftab did not reply

Ittefaq Report (http://www.ittefaq.com/content/2008/09/19/news0967.htm)

BANFAN
September 18, 2008, 12:51 PM
Well they have a coaching career, even if the ban lasts for so long. The xperience they will get in ICL & may be Rafiq will give them a ride in minor indian leagues as he had.

Meanwhile they should be utilizing their spare time in coaching courses to keep their future open.

MohammedC
September 18, 2008, 01:02 PM
How can he not be aware of ICC's (BCCI) stance with regards to ICL.
How dumb is he

WarWolf
September 18, 2008, 02:03 PM
Aftab and others were told they will be banned for 6 months. Never they thought it would be for 10 years. When asked who is behind it Aftab did not reply

Ittefaq Report (http://www.ittefaq.com/content/2008/09/19/news0967.htm)
Find out those culprits. It's now clear that BCB connected people are connected with the incident.

WarWolf
September 18, 2008, 02:08 PM
Translating to english..

Answering to a question about his wish to come back to national team, he said "right now I don't think that any chance or wish left for me to play for the national team. Once the ICL is over I hope to play for the national team again. "

SS
September 18, 2008, 02:08 PM
Aftab thought he will be ban for six months from which "sources" ...don't they read cricket news that other countries also banned players who will join this rebel league. I understand he failed but what about the Guy who is busy with the "University Education", is he also "thought" ban will be for six months!

Dhakablues
September 18, 2008, 09:44 PM
Perhaps one of them will be hooked up with a Bollywood actress, one will get a mega-sponsorship and another will become Indian Idol.. Who knows? They are rich now with 75 Lakhs each cash in their pocket and only 3 months to play for and all to earn, nothing to lose. Now hit those boundaries and hooks/Drive whatever you have in your arsenal.. As the Warriors they have now only one way to go and nothing to loooking back. Great motivations for both the ICL players and national players.. maybe one day they wlill have a charity match together?

Megh
September 18, 2008, 09:52 PM
Reallly!!!!!!!!!!Good news.Glad to hear that. In fact each of them should be banned for life. whatever with 6-8 years all of them would have been retired anyhow.it shouldn't be a problem that they became history before the history begins. 71-er Al-Bador der sawal ei sob gula.
This is really funny.. "10 year Ban on the retired players" ;

I dont think legally this has a merit because ICL is not an outlawed org by ICC. BCB should follow ICC guidelines not BCI's... or BCB is actually BCI's subsidiary?

EXACTLY right. but you know what?? those are bangladeshi players they can pull it(retirement) back anytime. they did retire to join the ICL. if they didn't then they couldn't join ICL as they were still under agreement with BCB. so they had to retire to join ICL to become (so called)Rebel Cricketers.and actually they didn't get banned only to join the ICL. you know all the stories i think, how they did it and what they did after we knew all about it. all thing is involved here. imagine that you are paying someone to do a job for you. but he suddenly without any notice just leaves while he does suppose to work with for more. and after that when did you call him up, he just kicks you back then how would you feel and what could you do if you have that much of power?

Megh
September 18, 2008, 09:58 PM
Find out those culprits. It's now clear that BCB connected people are connected with the incident.

Most of the rebel players said that Ashrafool was the one who has convinced them to join ICL. ashrafool was the one who was offered first and then he pushed them in and pulled himself out. and i think he is the main culprit here and that's why he is spending vacation in UK. what a IDIOT n Nonsense captain we have who is still in vacation after all of this.

Dhakablues
September 18, 2008, 10:08 PM
If this was a soap opera ( Alomer Pocha Shaban Opera or natok known as Gulshan Avenue); You would think Ashraful did this to keep his place in the squad and keep his captaincy.. He conspired, threw away all the possible challengers to ICL and now he will reign for ever after. He comes back from his vacation and claims his innocence..

Megh
September 18, 2008, 10:16 PM
There is no such thing as present and past employer in sports.In football we have the same player playing for his club and country in the same week with top priority given to Internationls.The same goes for English county and IPL players.So what's wrong in having Aftab Ahmed playing for us and the ICL? Solely Blame those responsible for banning the ICL in an attemt to stamp their Dominance.

i have one thing to say to you first--"DUDE,You gotta nick,Patriot which doesn't support your comment"

now i'm coming to the point of yours. please dude study the whole story first and then comment. it's not that they got banned to join ICL. it's beacause the way join to the ICL. they did it secrectly and then they retired. all of them together. still BCB wanted to have a meeting with them. they called them up. but 4 of them went to India and those left behing in BD, even though they didn't show up. so i think at least BCB deserves that much little respect as BCB didn't say anything about accepting or rejecting those retirement letter. and dude that banning thing is not all. BCB gonna put charges against them cause they were under agreement with BCB.i think there would some amount of money which BCB gonna GET 2 KEEP.

why these people don't understand this easy matter!!!!!!!!!!:mad:what you guys do if someone does this same kinda thing to ya man?????????:doh:

Megh
September 18, 2008, 10:26 PM
If this was a soap opera ( Alomer Pocha Shaban Opera or natok known as Gulshan Avenue); You would think Ashraful did this to keep his place in the squad and keep his captaincy.. He conspired, threw away all the possible challengers to ICL and now he will reign for ever after. He comes back from his vacation and claims his innocence..


why can't you say anything so straight?????

anywayz, siddions also mentioned that players were busy about outside stuffs when they were in aus and before that series in BD. so it's so possible that he could do that. cause, a captain after all his devastating performances still can say that i won't leave my position and i am enjoying cantaincy, he can do anything. and Lipu claimed that Ashrafool is innocent. cause Ashrafool told him ICL offered him and he refused it. but if he didn't have to do anything with this then why he is in UK still NOW????????what is more important to a captain of a team than this situation???? what is holding him back there?????one person who can't even speak one line properly in English, is spending vacation in UK!!!!!!! isn't it bit strange, you think? funny you didn't get that. anywayz, i didn't blame him. i just said "One of the Possibilities". and you just can't throw it away.

fais
September 19, 2008, 09:11 AM
Mumbai: The 13 Bangladesh players who have been banned for 10 years by the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) for joining the Indian Cricket League are not considering to move the court at this point of time, but instead are available for a compromise formula, if one can be worked out. This was revealed by the former Bangladesh skipper Habibul Bashar.

Speaking over telephone from his Dhaka residence minutes after the decision was announced by the BCB, he said: "We are not considering legal option at this point of time. What crime have we done? We have signed a three-year contract with the ICL with a condition to be released for national duty.

"We want to meet the board officials and discuss the issue with them. If no compromise is reached, we shall decide about our next course of action. We shall also demand our dues from the board."

The Tigers were individually contacted by Kaustubh Laheri, a Kolkata-based ICL agent, it was revealed.

"Now the chances of hosting the home series against New Zealand are 50-50," Rafiqul Alam, the national chief selector said.

"It will be a loss to the team but we shall utilise the services of young and talented players and seniors also," he added.

"Farhad Reza, Dhiman Ghosh and Alok Kapali were the members of the recent squad that toured Australia recently and are affected by this 10-year ban," he concluded

http://www.cricketnext.com/news/bangladesh-rebels-look-to-compromise/34172-13.html

What are these lot talking about? They are the ones that have resigned from national and domestic cricket without any notice. Why the hell are these morons complaining?

AsifTheManRahman
September 19, 2008, 09:16 AM
Yeah, I don't quite understand why they are concerned about the ban when they were the ones that retired in the first place. Perhaps they thought the board would crumble under pressure and let them play for both the ICL and the national team, increasing their contracted salaries in the process. Again, the retirement was unnecessary, as was the ban.

In any case, go Warriors!

Fazal
September 19, 2008, 09:32 AM
Yogi Berra once said, "It's hard to make predictions, especially about the future."
Now if I still have to make a prediction, then my prediction is "this ban will not last more than 10 months, they will play in local league by next season."

AsifTheManRahman
September 19, 2008, 09:35 AM
Yogi Berra once said, "It's hard to make predictions, especially about the future."
Now if I still have to make a prediction, then my prediction is "this ban will not last more than 10 months, they will play in local league by next season."Yes, that's what I think too. All in all, this ICL drama was always going to be a win-win-win-win for us.

PoorFan
September 19, 2008, 09:40 AM
Yogi Berra once said, "It's hard to make predictions, especially about the future."
Now if I still have to make a prediction, then my prediction is "this ban will not last more than 10 months, they will play in local league by next season."
If not 10 months, but in couple of seasons for sure.

Zeeshan
September 19, 2008, 09:50 AM
"When you're part of a team, you stand up for your teammates. Your loyalty is to them. You protect them through good and bad, because they'd do the same for you." -Courtesy of Yogi Berra

PoorFan
September 19, 2008, 10:10 AM
Who is this moron Yogi Berra?! How come he become so famous here in BC all of a sudden?

Zeeshan
September 19, 2008, 10:13 AM
Who is this moron Yogi Berra?! How come he become so famous here in BC all of a sudden?

lol he's a famous baseball player (not to be confused wit the cartoon character Yogi Bear)

MohammedC
September 19, 2008, 10:15 AM
Yogi Berra. Oi hala abar kunta. O Icl a khele na IPL e

Fazal
September 19, 2008, 10:16 AM
Yes Gopal Bhar,

who is this moron Yogi Bear and why you are quoting him?

Dhakablues
September 19, 2008, 10:26 AM
why can't you say anything so straight?????

anywayz, siddions also mentioned that players were busy about outside stuffs when they were in aus and before that series in BD. so it's so possible that he could do that. cause, a captain after all his devastating performances still can say that i won't leave my position and i am enjoying cantaincy, he can do anything. and Lipu claimed that Ashrafool is innocent. cause Ashrafool told him ICL offered him and he refused it. but if he didn't have to do anything with this then why he is in UK still NOW????????what is more important to a captain of a team than this situation???? what is holding him back there?????one person who can't even speak one line properly in English, is spending vacation in UK!!!!!!! isn't it bit strange, you think? funny you didn't get that. anywayz, i didn't blame him. i just said "One of the Possibilities". and you just can't throw it away.

To clarify,, I insuniated what you just said but in an indirect way..

But I dont want to villify him either without concrete evidence. The story or fact,, Ashraful was related to this thing one way or the other.