The pied piper is at it again ...

[RazabQ]

http://www.prothom-alo.com/mcat.news.details.php?nid=MTUzOTA1&mid=OA==

Bashar is leading Alok, SN, Aftab et al to the APL (American Premier League) now. If they do so, their geese will be truly cooked. With ICL there was some scope for legal leeway as the ICC language was not strict when the signed up. Now they know categorically that it is a forbidden league. Much as it hurts be, I don't think we'll see SN, Aftab & Alok in the national colors in a while, if at all.

[Zeeshan]

imo biggest loss would be kapali. rest are expendable. shobi bhogobaner lila khela vaijan. ki ar korben. [exhale] nijer dui gale duita juta mari...goriber dukh ke dekhe. [exhale]

ek dik theika valoi hoise. nature is working in mysterious ways and sieving and weeding out all the buira dhuira jafars, bruti, arnolds....

my glass of pink martini is still half-full....complete with the umbrella and all. :up:

[Baundule]

How much money will they get from the APL? Anyone knows? APL might be a good move for cricket and I guess, ICL will support them (dol vari kora). But we are losing Aftabs for sure. :(
ICC should come on terms with tournaments like ICL and APL than banning them from the word go. They may ask for some control in terms of standards, money etc. etc. but such investments should be encouraged for the sake of cricket.

[Ashfaq]

If they do play in APL, well, they have the liberty to play wherever they want, but this sends a clear massage that National team is not their priority. If that is true, then we should be glad to see their backs.

Bye Bye Bash & CO. :wave:. Can't say it's been a pleasure.

[dash]

i dont get it, whats the fuss,
they r banned any way nd not getting back to the national team untill they abandon their contract
which as far as i know they cant, their contract is such that only icl can terminate it or they see through it

[CholCholBD]

American Premier League?! LMAO LMAO LMAOL-)

wow u have got to be kidding me now.

Ehh...<b>nice way to immigrate to the U.S Habibul Bashar and Co.....</B>

....Pretty sure they got that dish washing job lined up in Jackson Heights, in case the cricket thing doesn't work out....

....I hear Shahriar Nafees will be applying to join another league soon...the Bangladesh American Taxi Drivers of New York Asssociation...dont forget to pay your $50 membership dues Shahriar...


:-D:-D:-D

[Tintin]

http://www.prothom-alo.com/mcat.news.details.php?nid=MTUzOTA1&mid=OA==

Bashar is leading Alok, SN, Aftab et al to the APL (American Premier League) now. If they do so, their geese will be truly cooked. With ICL there was some scope for legal leeway as the ICC language was not strict when the signed up. Now they know categorically that it is a forbidden league. Much as it hurts be, I don't think we'll see SN, Aftab & Alok in the national colors in a while, if at all.

It is suicidal. They should know that APL is not going to last. There is no way they can recover the money spent on cricket in America.

[BANFAN]

Go........ get it !!

3 months ICL and 2/3 month for APL, atleast they will be with cricket for some good amount of time. Good for them.

[bdchamp20]

They will lose my support and I'm sure the support of many others if they do this. They are very close to playing for their country again and now they want to blow it all. If this materialises then Bashar will lose all the respect I had for him.

[BD-Shardul]

It is no surprise.

In their interview with Prothom Alo, Habibul Bashar was asked if he would terminate his contact with ICL if it allows him to make a comeback to the national team. Habibul said, "Eta to shomvob na". :sick:

In reply to similar question, Alok said that they can't leave ICL unless ICL release them too. What a bullshi*t. MoYo is the answer.

The best strategy is to keep this greedy fellas out of national team, NCL, and every other domestic cricket tournaments and deprive them of any cricket facilities provided by BCB.

[tonoy]

I really hope this does not happen. They might as well say good bye to their careers if it were to come true. I just don't get how the US turned into such a big market for cricket?

[yaseer]

If Aftab, Alok and co able to terminate their contact I think then its a bad move to join APL. But as far as the news is coming, they can't terminate contract with ICL as its a one way one. In that case they can't be in the national team anyway... if not BCB allows them, which is not likely. So, if it is the scenario, then joining APL would be a good move as they can have some cricket at least.

Apparently, Everything depends on what BCB decides in their 9th May board meeting on ICL players.

[Tokai]

My dilemma is, am I willing to lose Aftab when I know I can get rid of Kapali? That is a very hard choice, like watching your MIL going off the clip with your new BMW.

[Ajfar]

they are really just screwing it up...ICC already announced that anybody joining APL will get banned..and just when the ICLers get close to a solution they screw it up again..i mean if BCB was gonna just continue to ban them it would made sense for them to join..but they didn't even wait...

[Ajfar]

I really hope this does not happen. They might as well say good bye to their careers if it were to come true. I just don't get how the US turned into such a big market for cricket?

well they are mainly targeting the new york crowd for now..just count how many brown people we have in New York...

[Tigers_eye]

Guys!! What's the fuss!!

http://content.cricinfo.com/usa/content/story/402665.html

Or are those two mutually exclusive events?

[bangla-red]

ICl rip-ff. I wouldn't be suprised if ICL sued.

[beshideshi]

todays[4may] prothom-alo has an interview of Aftab Ahmed. It says aftab signed the ICL deals without looking at it. WTFH man? taka dekhe matha ghurae gesilo? Now aftab says, he wants to leave ICl but there are some legal issues, like compensation and stuff. And the ICL blokes will have to pay the ICL large sum of money in order to leave the league. And about APL, is it legal>?illegal? or what? One day it says players playing in APL will be banned, then ICC suggests them to have an APL :S ?wth man?

[fais]

todays[4may] prothom-alo has an interview of Aftab Ahmed. It says aftab signed the ICL deals without looking at it. WTFH man? taka dekhe matha ghurae gesilo? Now aftab says, he wants to leave ICl but there are some legal issues, like compensation and stuff. And the ICL blokes will have to pay the ICL large sum of money in order to leave the league. And about APL, is it legal>?illegal? or what? One day it says players playing in APL will be banned, then ICC suggests them to have an APL :S ?wth man?

what kind of a goru signs ANYTHING in life without looking at it!!

[fais]

i don't rlly see why they shud ban APL players esp if there doesn't exist a current official american league

[auntu]

If they do play in APL, well, they have the liberty to play wherever they want, but this sends a clear massage that National team is not their priority. If that is true, then we should be glad to see their backs.

Bye Bye Bash & CO. :wave:. Can't say it's been a pleasure.

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[Ajfar]

Guys!! What's the fuss!!

http://content.cricinfo.com/usa/content/story/402665.html

Or are those two mutually exclusive events?

mijan bhai..BCCI i mean thukku "ICC"..je bodmaish aietai proman...that indian guy came up with the idea of APL in america..right after he did..BCCI i mean thukku.."ICC"...announced that anybody joining APL will be banned..and just a few days later they decide to push for an IPL style league in U.S.

[bangla-red]

We don't give a crap abut the Dhaka F*ckers anyway... this shouldn't concern us.

[bujhee kom]

What a bunch of born losers led by the ultimate loser of all Bashar!!!
There will never be any CRICKET popularity in the U.S. except for ex-British colonies' expats immigrants playing it over the weekend here and there!!! It is a fact!!!
And the pervert old ponzi scammer international money thief moron stupid texan with clogged arteries that made some noise about cricket in the caribbean without ever being able to spell the word of the name of the game has one foot in the federal jail and the other in the morgue!!!

Cricket in the U.S. of A. and none but great SN, Haba, Odhiman, Alok and the born retard Aftab lighting the torch - what a load of toilet bowl material!!! Bunch of fruit-flies looking for garbage!!!

[Rabz]

Let them play in all those PL CL out there, except the ones that matters the most.
Next thing you know they are in PNGCL (Papua New Guinea Cricket League), LPL ( Looser's Premier League), BICL ( Born Idiots Cricket League).........

who cares???

[crikfreak]

seriously guys this should not concern us.... i'm glad they're gone... frankly speakin... the team is better off without them.. no matter how much talent alok and aftab had.... and as for APL.... who the hell cares???

[Raynman]

you know what, a big [] to all the petty fans out there.

First you don't want them in the national team even if they left ICL, now you're upset that they are signing with other unofficial leagues and ruining their chances of making the BD national team?!!!!

1. ICL (I'm guessing APL too) have never stated that they will not allow their players to play international cricket
2. All the players (BD, Bond, Yusuf etc.) that signed up and still had national hopes joined so because they felt mistreated by the board. Just because you don't support those in charge doesn't make you unpatriotic
3. This is only a discussion because SN, AA, AK and some others made a name for themselves in ICL. Had they performed poorly like so many of you expected/hoped, the whole discussion would be different now
4. Everything is being based on one sided reporting of ICC and BCCI. I don't see why ICL should terminate contracts if they have a business plan going forward and see specific players as profitable. If they can financially sustain long enough to ride out a legal case with BCCI, I think they should go for it. They have a very good chance of winning
5. As far as I'm concerned, I have another team (two if you count them in APL) IN ADDITION to the BD national team. As BD we end up with the short end of the stick in the ICC FTP anyways so the more cricket to follow, the better
6. Get used to the CLs and PLs as this is where cricket is headed. This is where investors are willing to invest. Look at the attention IPL is getting vs the attention AUS/PAK ODI series got. Australia didn't even bother to put a full strength squad

[bdlocal]

you know what, a big [] to all the petty fans out there.

First you don't want them in the national team even if they left ICL, now you're upset that they are signing with other unofficial leagues and ruining their chances of making the BD national team?!!!!

1. ICL (I'm guessing APL too) have never stated that they will not allow their players to play international cricket
2. All the players (BD, Bond, Yusuf etc.) that signed up and still had national hopes joined so because they felt mistreated by the board. Just because you don't support those in charge doesn't make you unpatriotic
3. This is only a discussion because SN, AA, AK and some others made a name for themselves in ICL. Had they performed poorly like so many of you expected/hoped, the whole discussion would be different now
4. Everything is being based on one sided reporting of ICC and BCCI. I don't see why ICL should terminate contracts if they have a business plan going forward and see specific players as profitable. If they can financially sustain long enough to ride out a legal case with BCCI, I think they should go for it. They have a very good chance of winning
5. As far as I'm concerned, I have another team (two if you count them in APL) IN ADDITION to the BD national team. As BD we end up with the short end of the stick in the ICC FTP anyways so the more cricket to follow, the better
6. Get used to the CLs and PLs as this is where cricket is headed. This is where investors are willing to invest. Look at the attention IPL is getting vs the attention AUS/PAK ODI series got. Australia didn't even bother to put a full strength squad

and a big [] to you. perhaps, like me, you don't hold whole lot of knowledge of cricket. But I read all the threads and news before opening my mouth. You should read the 1st post of this thread: http://banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=29577

1. It is not their disagreement with the board that makes them unpatriotic, it is that them choosing money over nation (they knew they will be banned from playing in Bangladesh if the chose ICL) that makes them unpatriotic.

rest of your arguments are discussed in the thread linked above.

[Purbasha T]

This is stressful! :hairpull:

[cricket_king]

Let them play in all those PL CL out there, except the ones that matters the most.
Next thing you know they are in PNGCL (Papua New Guinea Cricket League), LPL ( Looser's Premier League), BICL ( Born Idiots Cricket League).........

who cares???

Rabz bhai...don't tell me you spell 'loser' that way (incorrectly) too! ARGH. This forum's members' literacy skills need help. :hairpull:

[Baundule]

Guys!! What's the fuss!!

http://content.cricinfo.com/usa/content/story/402665.html

Or are those two mutually exclusive events?
T_E Bhai,

ICC is now stealing the idea of APL, like BCCI did create IPL copy-pasting the ICL. This is pathetic from the ICC. Yesterday I had a quick look on the new laws/rules they are going to apply on unauthorised cricket. Those rules are a big shame, they sound like the BCCI is talking with ICC's mouth. They never tell what should be the guideline to authorise cricket sponsored/organized by other enterpreneurs; but they have stated every possible punishment for anyone involved with such events. If this continues, cricket is going to die in a decade or two.

[Rabz]

Rabz bhai...don't tell me you spell 'loser' that way (incorrectly) too! ARGH. This forum's members' literacy skills need help. :hairpull:

Hey mate, that double "o" depicts the level of their "loser"ness...
you meant to pronounce it loooooooooser....with an extra emphasis on "ooooooooo"
you missed that little part...:smug:

Ei forum e amar moto onek member-e hoilo oshikkhito ordho-shikkhito murkho ...
ei apnara asen boila ekhono amgo man ijjot ase.....

[Antora]

pffft! APL? seriously WTH? LOLOL

meh I don't care about those losers.. they can do what ever they want and go where ever they want!

[Antora]

American Premier League?! LMAO LMAO LMAOL-)

wow u have got to be kidding me now.

Ehh...<b>nice way to immigrate to the U.S Habibul Bashar and Co.....</B>



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LOL I was kind of thinking the same :P I remember my Dad telling me how some Bd cricket players ( a while back) went to Canada and the whole team disappeared :P

[Tigers_eye]

First we are discussing about ICL players in Bangladesh cricket section when there is a whole sub forum for that. Why?

Second, Aftab-Alok fans, you know the only way they can get in to the national team is bribing the selectors cause they can't make it any more with their talent/PERFORMANCE/physical fitness. Stop dreaming please. We should not look back if we want to focus on the team and not individuals. Raqibul/Shakib are much better than those two in all format. Even Samsur who hasn't played for the national team would be more consistant than them. Now to make the local leagues better I would want the ban lifted on ICL players.

If Dhaka Warriors want to play in APL it has to be through ICC approved league. ICC is the governing body and they decide which league is legit and which league is not. Even if they are wrong and partial (Thieves: stealing others ideas). We have to live with it. Unless one can create another ICC which is a billion dollar investment and then go after the Govts of the test playing nations Hoping to get support and break the monopoly.

[Baundule]

If Dhaka Warriors want to play in APL it has to be through ICC approved league. ICC is the governing body and they decide which league is legit and which league is not.

Actually they are NOT. I skimmed through the new rules on unauthorised cricket and did not find anything or any criteria set by the ICC to approve a cricket league. The home boards have all the power. (correct me, if I am wrong)

Even those rules are applicable only after the 1st of June, 2009.

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About the individuals, I also think alike. I do not like the way Aftab plays, Alok has to prove his worth and the same applies for each of them. I am more concerned about the system, which is hampering cricket.

[Tigers_eye]

Actually they are NOT. I skimmed through the new rules on unauthorised cricket and did not find anything or any criteria set by the ICC to approve a cricket league. The home boards have all the power. (correct me, if I am wrong)

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Yes, that is the rule, however, you think this monopolistic organization (ICC) would let/allow American cricket board to give safe haven for the BCCI foe ICL? With as much hold BCCI has over ICC that is certainity that ICC will fight tooth and nails to stop America give ICL a new life line. If you remember few years back there was a talk of banning America (US) from ICC. They will either do that again or create another governing board for America (there is already tention between the board members and organizers here) and create another similar tournaments. Just so that ICL doesn't get the viewers/revenues by themselves. In States, ICL has other competition which has deep roots. Like Minor league baseball, summer league, Arena football, unless they just target the deshis only.

[Akib]

APL should be the last thing they should do. Its obviously not going to last.

Plus the american cricket board is pretty screwed up. I'm sure they have a lot of tension with ICC.

[Baundule]

Yes, that is the rule, however, you think this monopolistic organization (ICC) would let/allow American cricket board to give safe haven for the BCCI foe ICL? With as much hold BCCI has over ICC that is certainity that ICC will fight tooth and nails to stop America give ICL a new life line. If you remember few years back there was a talk of banning America (US) from ICC. They will either do that again or create another governing board for America (there is already tention between the board members and organizers here) and create another similar tournaments. Just so that ICL doesn't get the viewers/revenues by themselves. In States, ICL has other competition which has deep roots. Like Minor league baseball, summer league, Arena football, unless they just target the deshis only.

That is exactly my point, too. BCCI talks in the name of ICC, at least that is my feeling after reading those new rules/laws. ICC or the American Cricket board can organise their own leagues; but they should not prevent efforts from other people who are trying to spread the game. I think, no one (ICL or APL) minds if ICC imposes some standards/criteria, along with monetary benefits, to be fulfilled to recognize/appeciate those leagues. In stead, they are simply preventing 'the game'.

ICC should focus on populated countries like China, Mayanmar, Indonesia, Korea etc. more, if they really want to spread the game. In stead of doing that, they are in the banning business.

I did not know about the talk of banning America. Thanks.

[Ajfar]

icc warns player

The ICC issued a statement earlier this week cautioning that the event was unauthorised, and in effect would have the same status as the rebel Indian Cricket League, whose players have been banned from international and much domestic cricket. That could mean that anyone taking part in the APL would face similar sanctions, and any team fielding such an individual would be barred from the Twenty20 Champions League.

http://content.cricinfo.com/usa/content/story/401234.html

[Rabz]

So, if I get it right...
The banned players from a banned league is going to play in another banned league???

Whats the big deal?? its not that they have much to lose.
Plus free te amrica ghuira ashon jaibo...