ex ICL players denied the right to use the fitness center at Mirpur Stadium

[Ajfar]

i decided to open this open this thread in this section because they are no longer ICL employees. I was not much excited about them coming back at first, but since they are back BCB needs to help them out in all possible way they can.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2952v5j.jpg

this is ridiculous. we are a test nation. and our players don't have access to fitness center unless they are on BCB's payroll. if we don't fix small things like this, we will never progress.

[cricket_pagol]

Our cricket board lacks professionalism :( Allowing these players to use the best facility available is in the best interest of our cricket!

[bujhee kom]

BCB is poor and weak and pathetic!

[Prime]

Cut off the nose to spite the face. There is the matter of pride for some old men, which can't be placated with the money they earn(embezel) or spend on them selves (free England trips).

[akabir77]

so whats the source?

[Fazal]

Let's not still act like a BCCI puppet and continue to fight BCCI's fight. Mistakes were made in both sides (BCB as well as ICL players) and we the BD fans paid the price. Now is the time to redeam their mistakes in both end.

I am afraid BCB is making the same mistakes again and showing their true color. Now that they are back, they should be treated equally like any other cricket talents that we have.

[auntu]

[বাংলা]কিন্তু আমি কোন সমস্যা দেখলাম না। ঠিকই তো ওরা এখন জাতীয় দলের কোন প্লেয়ার না। তাই এই সুবিধা দিতে গেলে অন্যদেরও দেয়া উচিৎ। ঢাকায় এখন অনেক ভালো জিম আছে। ঔ গুলায় গেলেই হয়। আইসিএল হতে প্রাপ্ত টাকা-পয়সা কিছু খরচ করা দরকার। এইটা নিয়ে হাঙ্কি-পাঙ্কি করার কোন স্কোপ নাই। অনেক দিন পরে বিসিবির একটা ভালো ডিসিশন। শক্ত কিন্তু এটাই বাস্তবতা।[/বাংলা]

[Naimul_Hd]

i think this decision is a outcome of some National players anger towards ICL players ! As we all knw some National players opposed the inclusion of ICL players in the national side, so board may have taken this decision to save their a$$ frm National players possible outburst ! :-/

[Murad]

[বাংলা]কিন্তু আমি কোন সমস্যা দেখলাম না। ঠিকই তো ওরা এখন জাতীয় দলের কোন প্লেয়ার না। তাই এই সুবিধা দিতে গেলে অন্যদেরও দেয়া উচিৎ। ঢাকায় এখন অনেক ভালো জিম আছে। ঔ গুলায় গেলেই হয়। আইসিএল হতে প্রাপ্ত টাকা-পয়সা কিছু খরচ করা দরকার। এইটা নিয়ে হাঙ্কি-পাঙ্কি করার কোন স্কোপ নাই। অনেক দিন পরে বিসিবির একটা ভালো ডিসিশন। শক্ত কিন্তু এটাই বাস্তবতা।[/বাংলা]

Well said. I also see no problem in it. They are a bunch of retired cricketers, aren't they?

BCB didn't say they dont want to do anything for them. They are looking for a way to give them the facilities. They will discuss this in the upcoming meeting. So whats the big deal? We always criticize the BCB for being unprofessional, and now when they are trying to be a bit professional, we are criticizign them again.

Odher ke jodi shob shubida deya hoi then onno playerra ki dosh korche? onek valo khele o ekhon porjonto valo GYM korar shujog paini..(domestic players im talking about).

[ammark]

There is no room for unjust discrimination and hypocrisy!! If Bangladeshi cricketers are allowed use of the gym, then ICL or no ICL - cricketers must not be barred from using the facilities.

[nadim 98]

[বাংলা]কিন্তু আমি কোন সমস্যা দেখলাম না। ঠিকই তো ওরা এখন জাতীয় দলের কোন প্লেয়ার না। তাই এই সুবিধা দিতে গেলে অন্যদেরও দেয়া উচিৎ। ঢাকায় এখন অনেক ভালো জিম আছে। ঔ গুলায় গেলেই হয়। আইসিএল হতে প্রাপ্ত টাকা-পয়সা কিছু খরচ করা দরকার। এইটা নিয়ে হাঙ্কি-পাঙ্কি করার কোন স্কোপ নাই। অনেক দিন পরে বিসিবির একটা ভালো ডিসিশন। শক্ত কিন্তু এটাই বাস্তবতা।[/বাংলা]

Well said.I just loved it;)

[abz..+]

come on BCB wake up

[MohammedC]

[বাংলা]কিন্তু আমি কোন সমস্যা দেখলাম না। ঠিকই তো ওরা এখন জাতীয় দলের কোন প্লেয়ার না। তাই এই সুবিধা দিতে গেলে অন্যদেরও দেয়া উচিৎ। ঢাকায় এখন অনেক ভালো জিম আছে। ঔ গুলায় গেলেই হয়। আইসিএল হতে প্রাপ্ত টাকা-পয়সা কিছু খরচ করা দরকার। এইটা নিয়ে হাঙ্কি-পাঙ্কি করার কোন স্কোপ নাই। অনেক দিন পরে বিসিবির একটা ভালো ডিসিশন। শক্ত কিন্তু এটাই বাস্তবতা।[/বাংলা]

This post is better than the news itself.

[Tigers_eye]

Those who are blaming BCB answer me this:

Can any first class player just walk in the facility and start training?


We have some 200 former and current first class players.

Would they let KM, JO go there and train?

[billah]

This is not a new stance for BCB. I personally know that the facilities at Mirpur are strictly off limits to all others, except for the ones that are presently in the national fold. In the past, access was denied to players that were practicing with the team, but was omitted just for one tour or series. Auntu is right, no scope for any hanky-panky. However, there is no other facility in the country like Mirpur at present, only BKSP comes close.

Besides, the gym at Mirpur does not have a dividing wall or anything. There is no way of separating the traitors from the national players. So, when these guys will go on the mobile, negotiating their next move to stab the nation for money, the others can hear them. Bad influence. They should first be "trained" at a military camp in Bandarban for 2 weeks. Then, may be.....

[revolver]

BCB is poor and weak and pathetic!

lol

[Ashfaq]

There is no room for unjust discrimination and hypocrisy!! If Bangladeshi cricketers are allowed use of the gym, then ICL or no ICL - cricketers must not be barred from using the facilities.

Yes, Bangladeshi cricketers are allowed in ther SBNS facillities, but only the current players of Nat'l, age or academy teams . The ex ICL players right now are domestic players. If BSB allows them in those facillities, why should the other domestic players like JO, NI, shuvo etc be barred ? As stated earlier in this thread, ther are plenty other gym and net facilities in Dhaka. They can practice if they really want.

They should be grateful that BCB is atlesat trying to make a special case for them.

[MohammedC]

Exactly Mizan bhai, there are good players who dont have excess to the facilty.

[cricket_dorshok]

Auntu bhai, Mijan bhai r billah bhai rock!!!

akame hanky-panky.

[RazabQ]

Ammark, for once I disagree with you. Yes Mirpur is the most well equipped indoor practice facility we have - so only natural everyone wants to use it. But it's a limited resource and must have some usage guidelines. If the ICLers are serious they can easily go to some of the other gym, rent it out and get in shape. They can request to join the camp of any of the Dhaka clubs. Heck, they could order a Nautilus machine themselves.

This isn't a case of being petty-mined. Rules are rules. And at least the BCB guys are trying to see if the policy can be updated. I bash BCB at every chance the give, but this isn't one of them.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Razab bhai, eto kichu bujhi na. Maar BCB office er janalay eeta maar!

[Akib]

Its not like they are national players. They are domestic players like any other, and thus most likely should not have access to the centre. Once they come back into national fold then yes they'll be allowed in.

[WarWolf]

Razab bhai, eto kichu bujhi na. Maar BCB office er janalay eeta maar!
Glass vangle oderi laav. Re tender kore poinsha banate parbe.

[Raynman]

As big of a fan I am of ICLers, I agree with BCB on this one.

[BD-Shardul]

I think there is a legal issue involved in it, and that is the reason BCB can't allow them to use the gym of SBNS for the moment right now. And gyms are now a days available in Dhaka. Check Here (http://prothom-alo.com/fcat.news.details.php?issuedate=2009-06-30&nid=NDEyNTM=&fid=MTA=)

[auntu]

this is not a new stance for bcb. I personally know that the facilities at mirpur are strictly off limits to all others, except for the ones that are presently in the national fold. In the past, access was denied to players that were practicing with the team, but was omitted just for one tour or series. Auntu is right, no scope for any hanky-panky. However, there is no other facility in the country like mirpur at present, only bksp comes close.

Besides, the gym at mirpur does not have a dividing wall or anything. There is no way of separating the traitors from the national players. So, when these guys will go on the mobile, negotiating their next move to stab the nation for money, the others can hear them. Bad influence. they should first be "trained" at a military camp in bandarban for 2 weeks. Then, may be.....
[বাংলা]
আপনার এই লাইনটা পড়ে চোখ চকচক করে উঠলো। টিপাইমুখ অভিমুখে পাঠালে কেমন হয়? অগ্রবর্তী দল হিসেবে? ধিমান দলের মুখপাত্র হতে পারে। ছেলেটা আবার হিন্দী বেশ ভালো বলেতো তাই। অবশ্য এতে একটা সমস্যা আছে। টাকা-পয়সা খেয়ে পুরা ব্যাপারটা লেজে গোবরে করে দিতে পারে। অবশ্য একটা চান্স নিতে অসুবিধা কি? টিপাইমুখ আর আইসিএল প্লেয়ার দু'টাই তো আমাদের জন্য লুজিং ব্যাটেল...[/বাংলা]

[cricket_pagol]

Ammark, for once I disagree with you. Yes Mirpur is the most well equipped indoor practice facility we have - so only natural everyone wants to use it. But it's a limited resource and must have some usage guidelines. If the ICLers are serious they can easily go to some of the other gym, rent it out and get in shape. They can request to join the camp of any of the Dhaka clubs. Heck, they could order a Nautilus machine themselves.

This isn't a case of being petty-mined. Rules are rules. And at least the BCB guys are trying to see if the policy can be updated. I bash BCB at every chance the give, but this isn't one of them.

Rules are rules, but rules need to be pragmatic. While the national team is away in West Indies for a month long tour, who will use the facilities in Mirpur? When we are woefully short on proper facilities in BD, why not site some rules to prevents former national level players to use existing facilities that are likely to be under-used due to absence of national players. I guess a reasonable question is "should these former national player have any added facility compared to other domestic players"... I think the answer is yes, because these guys are more likely to break into the national team compared to an average domestic player.

I do acknowledge the fact that BCB seems to be willing to come up with a policy so that the former ICL players can start using the gym.

BTW, this type of incident does not help, when it comes to building trust between BCB and former ICL player.

[zia]

Lets all of us go and practice there for the sake of Bangladesh cricket! Stupid ideas!!

[Gowza]

i can understand this in the short term if the current national teamers and former ICLers have some issues with each other but in the long run they will have to work things out because they could very well find themselves on the same team. in regards to gym facilities well this is one of the issues BD cricket has, either the BCB has to provide facilities for domestic players or the clubs do.

[imtiaz82]

Atleast now we know that the players actually do go for practise.. after seeing the performance in field for the last 10 years I was beginning to doubt that.

[Zeeshan]

havent read the whole thread...but they shouldnt at least deny the restroom facilities in time of need instead of playing a guess-the-right-cricket-trivia-answer of double jeopardy game before letting them in....

[wiseshah]

[বাংলা]কিন্তু আমি কোন সমস্যা দেখলাম না। ঠিকই তো ওরা এখন জাতীয় দলের কোন প্লেয়ার না। তাই এই সুবিধা দিতে গেলে অন্যদেরও দেয়া উচিৎ। ঢাকায় এখন অনেক ভালো জিম আছে। ঔ গুলায় গেলেই হয়। আইসিএল হতে প্রাপ্ত টাকা-পয়সা কিছু খরচ করা দরকার। এইটা নিয়ে হাঙ্কি-পাঙ্কি করার কোন স্কোপ নাই। অনেক দিন পরে বিসিবির একটা ভালো ডিসিশন। শক্ত কিন্তু এটাই বাস্তবতা।[/বাংলা]



i think u r right. they have to go through system. Some of them are not even part of A team and some of them dont have any chance even. so why should we allow them to use BCCb facility?they can use any club or health club , nobody is preventing them.

according to law only national team, A team and under 19 team should allow the facility.

if they are allowed, whats wrong with rest of the club cricketers to use the facility.

[Gowza]

i think u r right. they have to go through system. Some of them are not even part of A team and some of them dont have any chance even. so why should we allow them to use BCCb facility?they can use any club or health club , nobody is preventing them.

according to law only national team, A team and under 19 team should allow the facility.

if they are allowed, whats wrong with rest of the club cricketers to use the facility.

clubs should have their own facilities so that players of that club can use those facilities. if you want strong depth then you need to provide good facilities to as many levels as you can, the first XI domestic teams are a very important part of a BD players development and they need good facilities so that they can train properly and be ready for the next level if they're called up.

[Rabz]

This news is not even worthy of any discussion, in my opinion.

Plus the title is misleading. They were not denied.
Under the current regulation, they are not allowed to use the facility.
Hec, i even hear BCB official say they might look into upgrading their rules, if need be.

We have better things to do than trying to make a big deal out of it.
What better thing?
...like comtemplating the idea of how many test estatus century will Ash make in this WI tour.

[PoorFan]

Those cry-babies has no limit to their foul cry. Bashar being ex-captain of the team should know the code and find way to their needs, instead asking exceptional favor, typical bangla way pretend to be a victim.

[raf-stah]

next thing u know BCB will stop fans from criticising cos we hurt their feelings.
poor little babies..fidar khaba babu!?!?

[Isnaad]

It is nothing but jelousy//

[BANFAN]

BCB should allow all cricketers to use their facilities, unless it's occupied by national team, A team or any age groups. They could introduce prior booking systems.We cannot afford to discourage/deny facilities to the volunteers who seek development; just to follow some rules.

[Ashfaq]

BCB should allow all cricketers to use their facilities, unless it's occupied by national team, A team or any age groups. They could introduce prior booking systems.We cannot afford to discourage/deny facilities to the volunteers who seek development; just to follow some rules.

That could be the long term plan, provided the cost of managing such a facility 24/7 doesn't soar.

[Sovik]

they sure had some reasons. you don't get to do whatever you want, walk out of national team and then decide to comeback

[Sohel]

Coming from someone very critical of BCCI and their demonization of ICL and ICLers, and the subsequent shameless chamchami from BCB, I fail to see an issue here. There are plenty of decent gyms in Dhaka nowadays, and I sure getting a special group rate won't be tough for Abir and company to manage.

Also, morning runs are good start to regain some of that basic fitness. Free too ... :)

[Baundule]

ICLers are not automatic choice to the national team (main or A). They can play domestic cricket and use the facilities offered by their clubs. There is no reason why they should get some special treatments compared to other first class cricketers

[Tigers_eye]

....

Also, morning runs are good start to regain some of that basic fitness. Free too ... :)
Nothing is free my friend. You have to carry 500 taka notes with you to pay off the "chintai kari" on those morning runs. Otherwise you risk the med-bhuri (direct affect of ICL no game schedule) to sharpen Chakku. Khek!!

Mosjid'a giya fozr'er namaj pora dorkar. Besides the half night of soab, my nana use to say,
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man HEALHTY, wealthy and wise."

[Sohel]

Nothing is free my friend. You have to carry 500 taka notes with you to pay off the "chintai kari" on those morning runs. Otherwise you risk the med-bhuri (direct affect of ICL no game schedule) to sharpen Chakku. Khek!!

Mosjid'a giya fozr'er namaj pora dorkar. Besides the half night of soab, my nana use to say,
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man HEALHTY, wealthy and wise."

:lol:

[bujhee kom]

Ghotonata ki bhais? Oderke ki BCB toilet use korte dai nai?

[Shoikoth]

i think some of our BC members need a world class but free gym during their next visit to dhaka...that's why all this BCB punching.

this may be a case and point for the dhaka warriors to build there own gym and stadia. that should solve the problem...no one becomes an icl team w/o there own stadia.

[BANFAN]

It is also difficult for the national team players togo to any Gym; filled with ameatures & fans.

[BD-Shardul]

It is also difficult for the national team players togo to any Gym; filled with ameatures & fans.

I think ICL players can't go to any gym becasue people boo them.

[fuzzy]

this people deserve a little bit of that.... becouse of them we played so bad in T20.... jemo kormo temon fol....

[yaseer]

BCB's decision was right. under current regulation, if they allow ICL players to use the indoor facility, then they have to open it for all FC cricketers. Also nice to see that they are thinking for special consideration even by changing the rules. What more can the ICL players ask for? and also what more can BCB do at this stage? Not an issue i guess.......

[al-Sagar]

good decision by bccb.

let the iclers first donate another good gym with the money they earned from icl

[Imteaz]

Thats Good. Why we always want exception where there is complete rules & regulations? What is the problem for cricketers to follow guideline. If they really want to get fitness, they can do by their own.

[Gowza]

Thats Good. Why we always want exception where there is complete rules & regulations? What is the problem for cricketers to follow guideline. If they really want to get fitness, they can do by their own.

this is true but i'm wondering why they can't use their club facilities, do their clubs not have training facilities? i suppose they aren't really with any club atm due to ICL which might be why they can't use club facilities and if that's the case then they either need to get a club to pick them up or find their own ways to train. however players who are with clubs should have access to training facilities provided for them (by the club) throughout the year imo.

[Imteaz]

A Club cannot go against BCB. I don’t know the exact regulation but I am worried about the news. The newspaper/magazine who ever published it, it only reflects that we always want something against the regulation. This should not be news. It is written that BCB has straight guideline who can use their Gym. Why the news is published to create public sympathy for ICL cricketers? The way the news is published, it seems that ICL players have got right to use BCB facilities and it is their right. Breaking a law cannot be anyone’s right.

[Gowza]

well i can't read the article so not sure what it says exactly but regardless the clubs should have their own facilities and they should be the ones to create the guidelines for those facilities. i'm not even talking about ICL players, clubs should be professional enough to provide facilities for players who are with them, do clubs not have their own facilities? all they need is some general gym and cardio equipment and maybe a pool, nothing too fancy. can't expect the players to be professional and develop to international standards if they don't even have access to training facilities at their clubs.

when it comes to national team facilities, of course only players who have a contract with the BCB should be able to use them, but for those who aren't contracted they too need some nets to practice in and some gym equipment to have the required fitness.

[Rabz]

Funny thing is, this bunch of losers do not belong to any club at the moment!
Haha...
sucked in mate!!

Dont think any club will be generous enough to open their doors and let them practise in their facilities. Who is going to chip in the running bills?

A club is a private entity and unless you belong to that club, i dont think any club would want to facilitate utility usage for an outsider.

Go tell those icl-ers to cough up some cash they cropped up in india and join some private gyms. There are plenty abound in the city.

This is what happens when you jump the board too soon.

[simon]

Well said. I also see no problem in it. They are a bunch of retired cricketers, aren't they?

BCB didn't say they dont want to do anything for them. They are looking for a way to give them the facilities. They will discuss this in the upcoming meeting. So whats the big deal? We always criticize the BCB for being unprofessional, and now when they are trying to be a bit professional, we are criticizign them again.

Odher ke jodi shob shubida deya hoi then onno playerra ki dosh korche? onek valo khele o ekhon porjonto valo GYM korar shujog paini..(domestic players im talking about).

100% right.:flag:

[PoorFan]

Those newspaper never comes up with their follow-ups, thats another annoying thing.

[auntu]

Those newspaper never comes up with their follow-ups, thats another annoying thing.

Yes you are right. Simply crappy journalism.

[Nocturnal]

So, now ICL'ers start practicing at Mirpur! Prothom-alo link (http://www.prothom-alo.net/V1/mcat.news.details.php?nid=MTY3MDA0&mid=OA==)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8909/indor.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/indor.jpg/)

[nycpro96]

SN looks like someone from pirates from the carribean

[Eshen]

A-team is going to Maharashtra? Any idea when?

Good to hear SN trimmed down.

[raf-stah]

SN looks like someone from pirates from the carribean

captain... sparrow?

[Naimul_Hd]

So, now ICL'ers start practicing at Mirpur! Prothom-alo link (http://www.prothom-alo.net/V1/mcat.news.details.php?nid=MTY3MDA0&mid=OA==)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8909/indor.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/indor.jpg/)

Monjurul looks very healthy ! as far as i can remember, he was too skinny ! he could have been a good bowler for BD. he's got height, swing...but somehow he missed his opportunities..

[mahbubH]

i don't believe these (former)-traitors will not take the next available ICL type opportunity. they already showed their true color.

[Banglatiger84]

i don't believe these (former)-traitors will not take the next available ICL type opportunity. they already showed their true color.


So they are traitors for joining teams against BCCI?

I was also angry when they walked out of our team, but the truth is anti-ICL sentiments stem from the fact that BCCI was against ICL. As someone one pointed out, let us not go out of our way to prostrate in front of BCCI

[mahbubH]

So they are traitors for joining teams against BCCI?

I was also angry when they walked out of our team, but the truth is anti-ICL sentiments stem from the fact that BCCI was against ICL. As someone one pointed out, let us not go out of our way to prostrate in front of BCCI
where is "BCB" or "Bangladesh" in your post?

[Imteaz]

We/Us...:)