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wiseshah
July 13, 2009, 01:33 PM
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My first match thread ever and we won. yahooooooo

Bangladesh won the toss and elected to field
link:http://westindiesvbangladeshlivestre...desh-live.html (http://westindiesvbangladeshlivestreaming.blogspot.com/2009/07/1st-test-west-indies-v-bangladesh-live.html).
more link: http://desient.co.cc/ (http://desient.co.cc/) channel 5, 6, 7
latest head line: Mahmudullah double-strike dents WI (http://www.cricinfo.com/wivbdesh2009/content/current/story/414887.html)
Spinners give Bangladesh control (http://www.cricinfo.com/wivbdesh2009/content/current/story/414887.html)
Rain gives WI breather (http://www.cricinfo.com/wivbdesh2009/content/current/story/415049.html)
Bangladesh move towards series win (http://www.cricinfo.com/wivbdesh2009/content/current/story/415358.html)


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</TD><TD width="100%">Bismillahir rahmanir rahim. My first match thread ever. congrats BD team for first match win. inshallah we will win the series this time.Good luck tigers.

Form guide
(last five matches, most recent first)
West Indies- LLLDD
Bangladesh - WLLLL

Watch out for ...

Mahmudullah Eight wickets on Test debut, a real bonus for Bangladesh. Mahmudullah, earlier considered a limited-overs specialist, stamped himself on proceedings in St Vincent with the ball, picking up five wickets in West Indies' second innings. He was relentless in applying pressure with his offspin and the home side need to watch out against him.
Omar Phillips Another debutant who made an impression in St Vincent. The young opener fell six short of what he described as "one of the easiest hundreds you will ever get at this level".

Quotes
"Everybody knows I am not an out-and-out attacking bowler who will fire out batsmen. I like to build pressure and try to get among the wickets."
Darren Sammy calls it as is it.
"The boys are all keyed up. We know that our job is not finished. The best part is that we all know that it is possible."
Shakib Al Hasan knows where the momentum lies.




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kalpurush
July 13, 2009, 01:39 PM
Congrats wiseshah on your 1st match thread. All the best to you and Tigers :)

WarWolf
July 13, 2009, 01:40 PM
Congrats Shah. Hope we will win the series with 2-0.

wiseshah
July 13, 2009, 01:45 PM
thanks kalpurush and warwolf, really appreciated

Nadim
July 13, 2009, 01:53 PM
good work bro!

cricket_dorshok
July 13, 2009, 01:53 PM
ki bhai, ektu beshi excited???
best of luck.

Spitfire_x86
July 13, 2009, 02:03 PM
Opening match thread for the next match while a match is going on isn't fair. Please be a little more patient from next time.

Kabir
July 13, 2009, 03:47 PM
Opening match thread for the next match while a match is going on isn't fair. Please be a little more patient from next time.

If you're not patient...Spitty kintu kheipa jaabe...

but never mind...carry on...spitty'r emnitei dholai pawona ase ajke :fire:

banindfan
July 13, 2009, 03:49 PM
we CANNOOOTTTT AFFORD TO LOOOOOOOOSE THE SECOND TEST...ALL WE NEED IS A DRAW TO WIN THE SERIES

Rifat
July 13, 2009, 03:51 PM
wishshah...i am with you and Bangladesh all the way :fanflag: and salaam :) :up:

MohammedC
July 13, 2009, 04:00 PM
Good Luck Tigers and Wiseshah

wiseshah
July 13, 2009, 04:04 PM
thanks mohammedC, Rifat,nadim98, warwolf, kalpurush. again thanks. now lets celebrate before the 2nd test begins

AsifTheManRahman
July 13, 2009, 04:07 PM
Wiseshah, you need to fix the WICB logo size through BBCode/HTML - simply pasting it from my thread won't work because the original image is actually larger than the BCB logo. Otherwise, nice thread - congratulations on your debut!

Ajfar
July 13, 2009, 04:09 PM
Whitewash!!!!!!!!!

Roni_uk
July 13, 2009, 04:16 PM
Good luck

bujhee kom
July 13, 2009, 04:17 PM
Bismillah! Allah Malik!
Go Bangladesh!:flag:
Gorje utho Banglaar baaghera!:flag:
Long live Tigers!:flag:

Let's rock'n roll!

Purbasha T
July 13, 2009, 04:29 PM
Whitewash!!!!!!!!!

Oooooooh yes, just the way SURF EXCEL does.

sbsash
July 13, 2009, 04:32 PM
Congrats Shah. Hope we will win the series with 2-0.

yes lets hope so.Come on tigers,lets prove that we can win a test series.

wiseshah
July 13, 2009, 04:35 PM
who should be mash's substitution?

do you want to see another spinner like enam jr or spin allrounder like mehrab jr

or pacer like mahbubul robin.

bangla-red
July 13, 2009, 04:41 PM
I don't mean to be mean, but ATMR should have made this - see if winning run continues lol. I'm superstitious.

Ashfaq
July 13, 2009, 04:53 PM
Hmm. I'm taking the safety first route. Lets Draw this test. Who knows, GAyle & co. might make a return. So we have to be on top of our game.

We could be the first subcontinent team to win a test series in caribbean.



Don't lose guys.
BTW, how's the pitch of the next test gonna be by your reckoning?
I reckon FAst and bouncy like Perth.

Ajfar
July 13, 2009, 04:54 PM
i hope they don't get carried away. still a lot more work do be done.

zainab
July 13, 2009, 05:08 PM
Still, there is hope that the WI National team might play, there are still a few days left and anything can happen.

wiseshah
July 13, 2009, 05:13 PM
i want west indies national team to play and make a good fighting score but result should be: bangladesh won the series

Anher
July 13, 2009, 11:22 PM
Tasting the first test win against a G8 team was fundamental need for morale boosting. Bangladeshi team should be pumped up now. More good news is they lead the series 1-0. West Indies are now on huge pressure. This WI team is far more superior then the Zim team we beat. Bangladesh isn't a too bad team either as most thought. We needed to get away from idiotic leadship to true leadership who lead from the front and make an impression on and off field. Sakib shows what he is capable of. Definately he nailed it. Vegetarian Tigers only needed to get the taste of meat. No one can stop now Royal's growing brutal strength and force.

Throw Gayle, Sarawn, Chanderpaul, Edward, Bravo or whoever in front of ruthless Tigers now to see tear them apart. :)

Its just beginning of many!!!!

Good Luck Bangladesh.

Imteaz
July 14, 2009, 12:05 AM
Good Luck Bangladesh. We must WIN again.

bujhee kom
July 14, 2009, 12:06 AM
Khhoob moja, ki moja...!

One World
July 14, 2009, 12:09 AM
Hahha, remember my post, "khela hobe chomchom" - that happened.
Remember my favorite player, in each innings he took the most important wicket although he needs
"viagra" version of medicare in batting.


Hope he gets his Mojo back in those few days of rest.

Anher
July 14, 2009, 12:17 AM
Hahha, remember my post, "khela hobe chomchom" - that happened.



You remind me a Bangla proverb
[বাংলা]
ঝড়ে বক মরে আর ফকিরের কেরামতি বাড়ে :)
[/বাংলা]

Jesus87
July 14, 2009, 12:29 AM
Give Ashraful one more chance as we need someone with experience( even though he never made good use of the exp). When Mash comes back he should get the kick and we need to look at the future, which is looking quite bright eg: Tamim, Shakib, Big Z, Riyadh even Mush can bat very well. Glad Ash can finally say the team doesn't need him.
Line up for the 2nd Test
1. Tamim
2. Imrul (just convert your starts to 50s)
3. Junaid ( Big Z convert your 70s to 100)
4. Raqibul (no need for another Ashrafool shot)
5. Mushfiqur Rahim
6. Shakib al Hasan
7. Mahmudullah
8. Ashraful (needs a demotion to show how he fared in the last test - 9 runs from both)
9. Shahadat (no more over stepping)
10. Robin (heard about him - let's see how he fares)
11. Rubel (His reverse swing was impressive, dude no more noballs please)

One World
July 14, 2009, 12:30 AM
You remind me a Bangla proverb
[বাংলা]
ঝড়ে বক মরে আর ফকিরের কেরামতি বাড়ে :)
[/বাংলা]

Reminiscent BD_KNOCKOUT_INDIA lol.
I won't mind to be a fokir as long as the bok is preyed.

BD-Shardul
July 14, 2009, 12:51 AM
So guys, how much Siddons contributed in the first test? :D

OZGOD
July 14, 2009, 01:09 AM
Hopefully JAmie and Mortaza keeps everyone's feet on the ground after the historic win. Test cricket's a pretty simple game if you think about it. When batting, try and put up a big score, big enough that your bowlers will feel comfortable defending, and when bowling try and restrict them from scoring and take their wickets. That's basically it, 3 things to execute. A bit more composure from your top six and you should put up a pretty huge score, and you clearly have the bowling attack to both restrict the runs as well as take wickets. The opposition is on the back foot, now is the time to strike.

Nadim
July 14, 2009, 01:22 AM
Go Bangladesh Go:flag::flag:

Ashfaq
July 14, 2009, 01:24 AM
So guys, how much Siddons contributed in the first test? :D

Hah, Siddons must go light as candle in a church and send a bottle of wine to Sammy. If not for him, JS's idiocy was all set to strike again.

Ashfaq
July 14, 2009, 01:27 AM
Hopefully JAmie and Mortaza keeps everyone's feet on the ground after the historic win. Test cricket's a pretty simple game if you think about it. When batting, try and put up a big score, big enough that your bowlers will feel comfortable defending, and when bowling try and restrict them from scoring and take their wickets. That's basically it, 3 things to execute. A bit more composure from your top six and you should put up a pretty huge score, and you clearly have the bowling attack to both restrict the runs as well as take wickets. The opposition is on the back foot, now is the time to strike.

You know there's a bangla proverb, meaning "What is easy can't be done easily". Really, it's not the third order differential equation that you'll make a mistake about in the exams, it's the simle calculations that will be mistaken.

Hopefully our boys will stick to the basics.

OZGOD
July 14, 2009, 01:33 AM
You know there's a bangla proverb, meaning "What is easy can't be done easily". Really, it's not the third order differential equation that you'll make a mistake about in the exams, it's the simle calculations that will be mistaken.

Hopefully our boys will stick to the basics.

Sticking to the basics always helps (or it did for me, since I wasn't all that blessed with talent as a cricketer lol):

Batting
- defend the good ball
- put away/score on the bad balls
- put a high price on your wicket
- be patient - you have 5 days to win

Bowling
- be consistent
- minimise the bad balls
- make the batsman work for their runs
- make them play as much as possible
- if you get hammered, don't lose heart - concentrate on putting the ball in the right area

cricadda
July 14, 2009, 01:37 AM
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2nd Test: West Indies v Bangladesh at St George's
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Foozy
July 14, 2009, 02:03 AM
Critics have been after our TEST status for a while. And as far as this test goes, it might just give us a series win in TESTS, which is going to be HUGE for BD cricket.

Eibarer shongram, Amader muktir shongram!
Eibarer shongram, Shadhinotar shongram!
-Joy Bangla!

. :big_hug:

Nafi
July 14, 2009, 06:52 AM
Go BD

Go!!!

nzfan
July 14, 2009, 06:56 AM
Anyone seen Mehrabs attempt at a beard yet? I guess it could be worse. It could be Mushy attempting

FagunerAgun
July 14, 2009, 07:19 AM
Go BD Go.

BanCricFan
July 14, 2009, 07:20 AM
Anyone seen Mehrabs attempt at a beard yet? I guess it could be worse. It could be Mushy attempting

He looks rather dashing with his manly facial hair!

abu2abu
July 14, 2009, 07:55 AM
It may seem harsh, but there is still a lot of work to be done ahead of the 2nd test. The selectors need to seriously consider whether Mehrab will score more runs than ashraful batting at no 5 or higher. Ash may have got vital breakthroughs with the ball (and what a joy that was to watch), but he was ineffective as a batsman. The question needs to be asked, even if Ash is ultimately retained and given one last chance.

We should also avoid packing the team with spinners. We definitely need three seamers and in the absence of Mash, Robin should come in. He and shahadat can share the new ball, with rubel coming on 1st change. The windies aren't stupid, we played on a flat track in Kinsgtown, it'll be a greentop at St George's. We'll be trounced if we rely solely on spin, we need seam bowlers.

The temptation to recall Enamul is strong, but who would you drop? The only possible candidate is Riyad, and as he has just taken a 5-fer and can bat, that would be unfair.

The only changes I can see the selectors making is Robin for Mash. However, if it were down to me I’d also replace Ash with mehrab.

BD-Shardul
July 14, 2009, 08:27 AM
Here is my XI for second test:

01. Tamim Iqbal Khan: Score another century please
02. Imrul Kayes: Please rotate strike and take singles not to create unnecessary pressure on you.
03. Zunaed Siddique: Finish your unfinished business. Score 100.
04. Rokibul Hasan: I still have faith on you.
05. Shakib Al Hasan: No comment
06. Mehrab Hossain Jnr: Bat like MoYo, so that Kabir bhai can forget about your beard.
07. Mushfiqur Rahim: Keep chirping behind the stumps.
08. MUllah: Either bat well for face axe from team. I want to stop the tradition of coming to the team to bolster the batting and then hanging around in the team based on bowling
09. Mahbubul Robin: He did will in the test matches he played
10. Nazmul Hossain: Have been overlooked despite prolific performances in the SL-Zimbo home series.
11. Enamul Hoque Jnr: Take some wickets

AXE:
Ash: Come to the team when you can properly hold a bat and score some run. We now can win without your batting contribution :D

Shahadat: Why would we bother to take you when you spent all your energy for the run up and grunt and release the ball at a speed that is equal or less than that of S Rasel who is always overlooked because of speed?

Rubel: Great debut, but was erratic. Spend some time with the bowling coach.

BD-Shardul
July 14, 2009, 08:30 AM
Shakib and Shahadat Fined (http://www.cricinfo.com/wivbdesh2009/content/current/story/414425.html) :(

bd-omi
July 14, 2009, 09:29 AM
we CANNOOOTTTT AFFORD TO LOOOOOOOOSE THE SECOND TEST...ALL WE NEED IS A DRAW TO WIN THE SERIES

C'mon bro let's be optimistic. We will beat them in the 2nd test, thus will clinch the series by whitewashing them.......:flag::flag::flag::flag:

abz..+
July 14, 2009, 09:32 AM
insallah bangladesh will win

bd-omi
July 14, 2009, 09:38 AM
Here is my XI for second test:


06. Mehrab Hossain Jnr: Bat like MoYo, so that Kabir bhai can forget about your beard.



Interestingly he is from English medium background and has the best accent that I've heard from any BD cricketer.

MarufH
July 14, 2009, 09:48 AM
My team:


Tamim
Imrul
Junaid
Mushy (He needs to move up the order, he looked solid)
Ashraful
Mehrab (much better option with +bowling.)
Shakib (better off at 7, as he plays aggressive and good for a quick fifty end of the innings)
Mahmudullah
Robin/Enamul (depending on the pitch, like Mash said)
Shahadat
Rubel
Pavel

There will be no better feeling than seeing Shakib go in to presentation after the win. After all, he was the engineer behind first win.

The reason I wanna play 3 left armies if possible is they can put the ball at pretty much same stop and dent the pitch for the fourth innings (assuming we bat first again) After that, imagine how deadly Shakib will be!!!

MarufH
July 14, 2009, 09:49 AM
Interestingly he is from English medium background and has the best accent that I've heard from any BD cricketer.

That's a lame comment. Going to English Medium has nothing to do with beard.

bd-omi
July 14, 2009, 09:51 AM
Oooooooh yes, just the way SURF EXCEL does.

May also be like "Wheel Power White". :-p :-p

bd-omi
July 14, 2009, 09:54 AM
That's a lame comment. Going to English Medium has nothing to do with beard.

Well perhaps but u will hardly see one there with a beard. Keeping aside those "Chagla" ones.

bd-omi
July 14, 2009, 10:02 AM
My team:


Tamim
Imrul
Junaid
Mushy (He needs to move up the order, he looked solid)
Ashraful
Mehrab (much better option with +bowling.)
Shakib (better off at 7, as he plays aggressive and good for a quick fifty end of the innings)
Mahmudullah
Robin/Enamul (depending on the pitch, like Mash said)
Shahadat
Rubel
Pavel

There will be no better feeling than seeing Shakib go in to presentation after the win. After all, he was the engineer behind first win.

The reason I wanna play 3 left armies if possible is they can put the ball at pretty much same stop and dent the pitch for the fourth innings (assuming we bat first again) After that, imagine how deadly Shakib will be!!!

Aren't there 12 men in your squad? Why do we need Pavel, when we have mushy?:confused:

In my team Junior will fight with Shahadat for a place. Robin will be an automatic inclusion because Shahadat's pace has deteriorated significantly. 75 Kmph is not at all threating.:mad: :mad:
And yes I'll play Mehrab instead of Rock. His bowling is his added advantage.:saint:

wiseshah
July 14, 2009, 12:34 PM
i will go for the same test team that played in the first match. though mash is injured, so there is one change coming for sure.

my squad

tamim
imrul
junayed
rokibul (may be mehrab jr, his spin can be useful)
ashraful
sakib
mushfiq
mahmudullah
shahadat
enam jr/ robin
rubel

if mehrab jr plays in place of rokibul, then we dont need enam jr. we should play robin

dash
July 14, 2009, 01:00 PM
most likely there will be only one change- robin for mash
or may be mehrab darial for rock (thatl increase a spinning option), but i doubt that would happen
no need for speculation

Fazal
July 14, 2009, 02:11 PM
Whoever is choosen in the final 11 by the selectors, Shakib will get best out of that bunch and will make it another entertaining TEST for us.... thats for sure.

tigerpain
July 14, 2009, 02:47 PM
To start with Congrate to Brave Tiger, It was well earned 2nd test victory. After watching the game; analysis at my own. All of our boys have shown some sorts of determination even with 9 uncaped WI player. Nevertheless, Win is a win.
Goin to my point after watching Ash performance so far this series who has played 8 yrs for BD team has been able to put up any sort of consistency; most of you would agree with in this case. I think it's time to call up Alok Kapali back in this series to replace Ash; i am confident Alok will do far better than Ash..have you say...:flag:

MarufH
July 14, 2009, 02:54 PM
Aren't there 12 men in your squad? Why do we need Pavel, when we have mushy?:confused:

In my team Junior will fight with Shahadat for a place. Robin will be an automatic inclusion because Shahadat's pace has deteriorated significantly. 75 Kmph is not at all threating.:mad: :mad:
And yes I'll play Mehrab instead of Rock. His bowling is his added advantage.:saint:

12th man??? You don't know that teams usually announce 12th man for bottle carrying? LOL
jokes apart, 12th man is also the fielder is ready to take the field if anyone is injured/need a break. Also he may not bowl. So who is better fielder than a keeper? With Mash out, we need Shahadat for experience. You can't build a pace attack with combination of 2/3 test played experience.

MarufH
July 14, 2009, 02:56 PM
Well perhaps but u will hardly see one there with a beard. Keeping aside those "Chagla" ones.

What does it have to do with others keeping it or not??? It shows the man is confident and does not "care" what people like you think.

abc70
July 14, 2009, 03:16 PM
To start with Congrate to Brave Tiger, It was well earned 2nd test victory. After watching the game; analysis at my own. All of our boys have shown some sorts of determination even with 9 uncaped WI player. Nevertheless, Win is a win.
Goin to my point after watching Ash performance so far this series who has played 8 yrs for BD team has been able to put up any sort of consistency; most of you would agree with in this case. I think it's time to call up Alok Kapali back in this series to replace Ash; i am confident Alok will do far better than Ash..have you say...:flag:

Dude what has Alok done? He also played for long long time for BD again done worst than Ash and the confident word is useless because you are saying your confident about alok but is Alok really confident himself who will play in the middle not you?

AsifTheManRahman
July 14, 2009, 03:50 PM
Any word on the pitch?

cricadda
July 14, 2009, 03:51 PM
[QUOTE=Foozy;916042]Critics have been after our TEST status for a while. And as far as this test goes, it might just give us a series win in TESTS, which is going to be HUGE for BD cricket.





if we can win the series, it might change our cricket and change our loneless from the test cricket........:flag::flag::flag:

cricadda
July 14, 2009, 03:52 PM
Any word on the pitch?

what u mean?

cricadda
July 14, 2009, 03:57 PM
my team.....

tamim iqbal
imrul kayes
j siddik
ashraful
meharab jr
saqib
riad
musy
nazmul[if not mash play]
rubel
anamul jr.........

cricadda
July 14, 2009, 04:01 PM
my team.....

tamim iqbal
imrul kayes
j siddik
ashraful
meharab jr
saqib
riad
musy
nazmul[if not mash play]
rubel
anamul jr.........


i choose extra spiner because wi are weak in spin. and they birth first bowl attack. so they good on against pace bowl attack. so we should played extra spiner.[ this opinion after i saw first match]. :flag::flag:

Ashfaq
July 14, 2009, 04:06 PM
cricadda, See that Edit button?

Fazal
July 14, 2009, 04:11 PM
I guess cricadda is still spinning with extra spinner in his team. Thats why he targeted "edit" button but hit the "quote" button.

Ashfaq
July 14, 2009, 04:16 PM
Could very well be true.

Ajfar
July 14, 2009, 04:38 PM
Any word on the pitch?

yea, its approximately 22 yard long.

Ashfaq
July 14, 2009, 04:49 PM
yea, its approximately 22 yard long.

Also, it is made of Grenada soil.

Tigers_eye
July 14, 2009, 04:59 PM
Blind Ash lovers keep him in the team just like ujbuk selectors.

Shobha
July 14, 2009, 05:11 PM
COME ON TIGERSSSSS:flag::flag:

show us the way to glory!!!!!!!!!:flag:

Ashfaq
July 14, 2009, 05:15 PM
COME ON TIGERSSSSS:flag::flag:

show us the way to glory!!!!!!!!!:flag:

Hopefully your "Hubby" wont flop.

bujhee kom
July 14, 2009, 05:16 PM
Jege utho Banglaar Baghera!:flag:
Shanti, bhalobasha ebong cricket!

Titu
July 14, 2009, 05:17 PM
Also, it is made of Grenada soil.

And most unlikely if ammonia synthesis through Haber process takes place.

imtiaz82
July 14, 2009, 05:59 PM
WI playing their A team again? or the WCB is bringing the full strength side after the loss?

Sauron
July 14, 2009, 07:52 PM
No Nazmul!!

PLEASE. NO NAZMUL.

He is simply not compatible with international cricket. Unless he has improved 1000% over the last year, there is no reason to hang such an albatross around our necks.

The only change (IMHO) that is needed is get a spinner/batsman (Mehrab fits the bill) in place of Mashrafee. Otherwise, keep the team same.

PLEEEEEEASE!

Sauron
July 14, 2009, 07:54 PM
Yes, and Shahadat is a potential bench-warmer. He wasn't effective. But Rubel must stay.

Murad
July 14, 2009, 09:01 PM
You are wrong about Nazmul. He bowled superb in the ODIs he played since his come-back. Bowled better than Mash on some occations.

He shouldn't be in the Test squad though :)

His stats from last 12 months:

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Sauron
July 14, 2009, 09:34 PM
You are wrong about Nazmul. He bowled superb in the ODIs he played since his come-back. Bowled better than Mash on some occations.

He shouldn't be in the Test squad though :)



We are obviously talking about test squad, not ODI.

Regardless, Nazmul is better called as Nazu apu. No venom, no intelligence, no forethought. To me (personal opinion only), he looks like a Tokai with a cricket ball. Praying to God that Nazu apa doesn't get into test squad.

nzfan
July 14, 2009, 11:45 PM
We are obviously talking about test squad, not ODI.

Regardless, Nazmul is better called as Nazu apu. No venom, no intelligence, no forethought. To me (personal opinion only), he looks like a Tokai with a cricket ball. Praying to God that Nazu apa doesn't get into test squad.

And what do you call Shahadat?

The worst thing to happen for Bangladesh cricket was him managing to get those wickets against South Africa

Gowza
July 14, 2009, 11:53 PM
nazmul is more of a one-day bowler, they should have brought over sajidul or talha as back-up imo. but regardless robin should be selected ahead of the back-up anyway, especially in the test matches.

without the pace shahadat has lost his advantage over the other contenders imo, actually the others probably swing the new ball more than he does though he probably has better reverse swing. i'm talking about guys like rasel and robin, actually robin might even be faster than shahadat nowadays.

Sohel
July 14, 2009, 11:59 PM
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:fanflag:

bujhee kom
July 15, 2009, 12:01 AM
I very much agree with Gowza...we should have brought Robin in instead! It is indeed a mistake! Robin's swings are very important and his good tail-end batting would have been invaluable!

Antora
July 15, 2009, 01:52 AM
Nice thread :)
Good luck BAngladesh :flag::flag:




Anyone seen Mehrabs attempt at a beard yet? I guess it could be worse. It could be Mushy attempting

I know!!! I hate it, he looks terrible terrible terrible! I can't stand facial hair on men and it just looks yuk on him! everytime i see him I feel like shaving it off!:hairpull:

Gowza
July 15, 2009, 01:59 AM
I know!!! I hate it, he looks terrible terrible terrible! I can't stand facial hair on men and it just looks yuk on him! everytime i see him I feel like shaving it off!:hairpull:

but you don't mind it on women....:-p

Nocturnal
July 15, 2009, 01:59 AM
make it happen ..2-0!! GO Tigers!!

Shehwar
July 15, 2009, 02:09 AM
West Indies Team for 2nd Digicel Test Match



The West Indies selectors have named the following players for the 2nd Digicel Test Match against Bangladesh at the National Stadium in Grenada from July 17 to 21:



1. Floyd Reifer (Captain)

2. Darren Sammy (Vice Captain)

3. Ryan Austin

4. David Bernard Jnr.

5. Tino Best

6. Travis Dowlin

7. Ryan Hinds

8. Kevin McClean

9. Nikita Miller

10. Nelon Pascal

11. Omar Phillips

12. Dale Richards

13. Kemar Roach

14. Chadwick Walton



Note: Kraigg Brathwaite and Andre Creary will return to participate in the TCL Group West Indies Cricket Board’s Under-19 Tournament in Jamaica.

Source: CCF

Roni_uk
July 15, 2009, 04:14 AM
Cricinfo staff

July 14, 2009

The West Indies players who declined to play in the first Test against Bangladesh are unlikely to back down and apologise to the West Indies board, raising the likelihood of a weakened side for the second Test against Bangladesh even though they lost the first by 95 runs in St. Vincent.

Dinanath Ramnarine, the chief executive of the players' association (WIPA), said the players were united in their resolve. "They're very strong … and although they want to play, they're not going to back down under this pressure," he said. Ramnarine added that WIPA had consulted lawyers and a number of legal challenges to the WICB's position were being discussed.

Jimmy Adams, the secretary of WIPA, told Cricinfo that the players' stance was unwavering. "You have a group of players earning more from playing cricket outside the Caribbean than for the West Indies and they aren't putting up with this crap. They have choices and they are prepared to exercise those choices. They've got fed up with things going nowhere and they're adamant they need this sorted before they come back and play."

It also emerged that recently Julian Hunte failed to turn up to a meeting with the players which he had offered in an attempt to clear up the situation.

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apologies for what again????

fuzzy
July 15, 2009, 04:35 AM
mahbubal alam robin should take mashrafee's spot n nazmul in for rubel....

fuzzy
July 15, 2009, 04:38 AM
we shouldn't play 3 spinners though i like really like enamul H jr... but shakib is very similar 2 enamul...riad n shakib should play with 3 fast bowlars= M.Alam robin, nazmul, n shahadath/rubel......

abu2abu
July 15, 2009, 05:28 AM
There's no need to worry too much, Nazmul is just a back-up. Robin is more likely to play as he's had some match practice and has had time to acclimatise (nazmul only arrived in the last couple of days).

I am a bit worried about Ryan Hinds returning to the Windies side. If we don't get him out early, he could score some big runs...

Antora
July 15, 2009, 05:51 AM
but you don't mind it on women....:-p

Oh yeah! all the waaaaay.....:-p:sick:

Miraz
July 15, 2009, 06:56 AM
West Indies retain new-look squad
Cricinfo staff
July 15, 2009
Text size: A | A
The West Indies selectors have retained their new-look squad for the second Test against Bangladesh starting on Friday. Batsman Ryan Hinds has been added to the team.
Barbadian batsman Kraigg Brathwaite and Jamaican André Creary, who did not play the first Test, have been released to play in the domestic three-day tournament.
The left-handed Hinds last played a Test in March in the home series against England, and was dropped for the return tour to England in May.
WICB Vice President Dave Cameron said that any player who wanted to make himself available would be considered for selection. "I cannot say (that) if any of the players changed their minds they would be back into the team for the second Test, but I think that they should be given a look at," Cameron said.
West Indies fielded a second string team at Arnos Vale Sports Complex in the first Test after their regular players withdrew from the team following a dispute with the WICB. West Indies lost to Bangladesh by 95 runs, giving the touring side their first Test victory away from home.
Squad:
Floyd Reifer (capt), Darren Sammy (vc), Ryan Austin, David Bernard Jr, Tino Best, Travis Dowlin, Ryan Hinds, Kevin McClean, Nikita Miller, Nelon Pascal, Omar Phillips, Dale Richards, Kemar Roach, Chadwick Walton.


(http://www.cricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/414523.html)
Source (http://www.cricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/414523.html)

cricket_king
July 15, 2009, 06:57 AM
And what do you call Shahadat?

The worst thing to happen for Bangladesh cricket was him managing to get those wickets against South Africa

Thank you. That's precisely put. Welcome to reality Shahadat lovers - his rare momentary successes result in future Bangladesh disasters.

Ashfaq
July 15, 2009, 02:01 PM
Any news on the pitch?

auntu
July 15, 2009, 02:20 PM
[বাংলা]জাযাকুমুল্লাহ খায়ের জ্ঞ্যানী শাহ/ওয়াইশাহ আপনার ১ম ম্যাচ সুতা পাকানোর জন্য।
ওবায়েদ ভাই বুড়া হয়ে গেলেন। ঝিম কেইস।[/বাংলা]

abz..+
July 15, 2009, 03:15 PM
insallah this time we will win the series

Fazal
July 15, 2009, 03:31 PM
No offense to Mashrafe, he is still better than Ash and Bash, but Sakib is the real deal.

I was advocating for him for a year now. He has proven that he is more than ready to take the captaincy role role.

he will prove it again by winning the series 2-0.

Peace
July 15, 2009, 03:43 PM
Yeah.
Shakib is the real deal. The boy has got everything- intelligence, leadership and cricketing skills. Mash’s departure might be a blessing in disguised.

Nafi
July 15, 2009, 03:51 PM
Well I just have to say those field settings were brilliant, something that even Ponting and got wrong when using Hauritz to get the final wicket.

Kabir
July 15, 2009, 04:31 PM
I would never call Mash's departure as a blessing in disguise. We haven't even been able to properly test his captaincy. Until we know what he has to offer, we cannot consider his service as anything other than "a good potential".

Gowza
July 15, 2009, 05:36 PM
firstly it was just one match and secondly i believe most people were against shakib getting the captaincy not because they thought he couldn't do it but because they wanted him to develop without the extra responsibility of captaincy.

BanCricFan
July 15, 2009, 05:48 PM
Alok is the real deal.

wiseshah
July 15, 2009, 07:11 PM
[বাংলা]জাযাকুমুল্লাহ খায়ের জ্ঞ্যানী শাহ/ওয়াইশাহ আপনার ১ম ম্যাচ সুতা পাকানোর জন্য।
ওবায়েদ ভাই বুড়া হয়ে গেলেন। ঝিম কেইস।[/বাংলা]


thanks auntu

bujhee kom
July 15, 2009, 08:43 PM
Asha kori khela ebar chomotkaar koshe jome uthbe!

kalpurush
July 15, 2009, 09:02 PM
mahbubal alam robin should take mashrafee's spot n nazmul in for rubel....
Thats funny! And I though Rubel did well in the 1st test!!

kalpurush
July 15, 2009, 09:14 PM
[বাংলা]
ওবায়েদ ভাই বুড়া হয়ে গেলেন। ঝিম কেইস।[/বাংলা]
Well, not really! I could run faster than my son!!;)

BaCkYaRd_Tiger
July 15, 2009, 09:20 PM
Cant for 2nd test,,,,,

Tamim
Imrul
junaid
Mushi
Ash
Saki
Raqibul
Riad
Enamul Huq
Shahadat
Rubel

we need more spin attack...
hello... this W.Indies

BaCkYaRd_Tiger
July 15, 2009, 09:23 PM
Robin, Nazmul both them ordinary bowler.... So better play Spinner

BaCkYaRd_Tiger
July 15, 2009, 09:24 PM
hope mash will be ok for ODI..

habfreak
July 15, 2009, 09:27 PM
Thank you. That's precisely put. Welcome to reality Shahadat lovers - his rare momentary successes result in future Bangladesh disasters.
he has certainly not live up to his potential...but he's far from the Main reason BD cricket is so far away from promise land. I look at the stats and it baffles my mind why Shahadat gets so much of the fans' wrath? Because he has a long run up and grunts without any significant pace generated? I understand that it can bother the batsman...but so does Mushi's constant meaningless "Bokor bokor"..I din;t see him getting bashed for that. Is it because Shahadat has an aggressive attitude a fast bowler should have; but he is not truly a fast bowler? so u can't have a positie attitude unless you are Brett Lee or Shoaib Akhter? I don;t remember him comparing himself to Lee or Akhter. It;s the fans who make those assumptions and then bash the athlete when those unrealistic assumptions don;t come true.

The real reason I think Shahadat is so often criticised is that he doesn't have the
typical Banglai "Minmina biral" attitude. we just don;t understand the concept that COCKY can be a good thing sometimes. Guys like Kallis, Chris cairns had no significant pace; but still walked up to the batsmen and looked them righ tin the eye after beating them...I don't think their fans ridiculed them for not having enough pace.

One World
July 15, 2009, 09:29 PM
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:fanflag:


Great video, great moments - almost made my eyes wet.

Zeeshan
July 15, 2009, 09:32 PM
Good you kept your post to ocular territory....

wiseshah
July 15, 2009, 09:32 PM
most probably line up will be like this

tamim
Imrul kayes
Junaed
mehrab jr ( he can do the same that enam jr can do, plus batting)
mushfiq rahim
sakib
ashraful
mahmudullah
mahbubul robin
shahadat
rubel

I think this will be the line up. and seems like strong line up with both batting and bowling

wiseshah
July 15, 2009, 09:34 PM
4 spinner
3 pacer
8 batsman
what else u need?--------yeah u need dedication, not throwing up mentality, stay in the crease as long as possible and make some runs.

One World
July 15, 2009, 10:01 PM
good you kept your post to ocular territory....

সুখে থাকলে ভুতে কিলায়

And I can push the new thread button on top left corner but can never start something like this.

Zeeshan
July 15, 2009, 11:11 PM
সুখে থাকলে ভুতে কিলায়

And I can push the new thread button on top left corner but can never start something like this.

lol

Let the games begin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLA-4tUDEv4

One World
July 16, 2009, 12:15 AM
lol

Let the games begin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLA-4tUDEv4

:) :joy: :joy: East or West BC is the Best!!!!!!!!!!!

Zeeshan
July 16, 2009, 12:51 AM
Commencum Kickomnimus Gluteus Maximus!

nasimul
July 16, 2009, 01:15 AM
Should go all the way for the whitewash, have to play positive and overcome the over-confidence. This WI team has potential and wouldn't be surprise if they bounce back.

auntu
July 16, 2009, 01:44 AM
well, not really! I could run faster than my son!!;)
[বাংলা]হাঃহাঃ ওবায়েদ ভাই...কত বয়স? ২ না ৩ বছর?[/বাংলা]

PoorFan
July 16, 2009, 01:57 AM
West Indies v Bangladesh, 2nd Test, Grenada
Confident Sammy targets victory
Cricinfo staff
July 16, 2009
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The second and final match starts on Friday at St George's with Bangladesh looking to seal their first-ever Test series win. West Indies will again be fielding a second-string side as the dispute between the board and the West Indies Players' Association has still not been resolved.

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Beware BD boys! Definitely they will come hard, time to crush them down.

auntu
July 16, 2009, 02:04 AM
I don't understand why Nazmul is the replacement of Mash? To bowl at net? Mahbubul Alam Robin is in the side and Nazmul is a bad choice for Test match.

Bagh mama & Co. is killing Bangladesh cricket.

Nocturnal
July 16, 2009, 02:41 AM
The West Indies selectors have retained their new-look squad for the second Test against Bangladesh starting on Friday. Batsman Ryan Hinds has been added to the team.

The left-handed Hinds last played a Test in March in the home series against England, and was dropped for the return tour to England in May.

Squad:
Floyd Reifer (capt), Darren Sammy (vc), Ryan Austin, David Bernard Jr, Tino Best, Travis Dowlin, Ryan Hinds, Kevin McClean, Nikita Miller, Nelon Pascal, Omar Phillips, Dale Richards, Kemar Roach, Chadwick Walton.
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link (http://www.cricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/414523.html)

PoorFan
July 16, 2009, 02:52 AM
I don't understand why Nazmul is the replacement of Mash? To bowl at net? Mahbubul Alam Robin is in the side and Nazmul is a bad choice for Test match.

Bagh mama & Co. is killing Bangladesh cricket.
Are you sure Nazmul was sent just for test? not including ODIs??

abu2abu
July 16, 2009, 03:21 AM
he has certainly not live up to his potential...but he's far from the Main reason BD cricket is so far away from promise land. I look at the stats and it baffles my mind why Shahadat gets so much of the fans' wrath? Because he has a long run up and grunts without any significant pace generated? I understand that it can bother the batsman...but so does Mushi's constant meaningless "Bokor bokor"..I din;t see him getting bashed for that. Is it because Shahadat has an aggressive attitude a fast bowler should have; but he is not truly a fast bowler? so u can't have a positie attitude unless you are Brett Lee or Shoaib Akhter? I don;t remember him comparing himself to Lee or Akhter. It;s the fans who make those assumptions and then bash the athlete when those unrealistic assumptions don;t come true.

The real reason I think Shahadat is so often criticised is that he doesn't have the
typical Banglai "Minmina biral" attitude. we just don;t understand the concept that COCKY can be a good thing sometimes. Guys like Kallis, Chris cairns had no significant pace; but still walked up to the batsmen and looked them righ tin the eye after beating them...I don't think their fans ridiculed them for not having enough pace.

This is a fine post. I agree completely with your sentiments. Only the truly cold-hearted would crticise a player for getting a 5-wicket haul against a quality south african line-up.

Let Shahadat play with agression and grunt as he wants. He may not be successful in every game or on every surface, but I am sure he will come good in the end...

auntu
July 16, 2009, 03:33 AM
Are you sure Nazmul was sent just for test? not including ODIs??
Not not sure but if they also think that then it's a good move. He can fill Shahadat's spot.

mahbubH
July 16, 2009, 03:55 AM
If the pitch is really grassy then we will have problem handling that "khemar ruj" who is a quality bowler.

auntu
July 16, 2009, 04:04 AM
If the pitch is really grassy then we will have problem handling that "khemar ruj" who is a quality bowler.
That's true. He is the best in their lineup. High possibility for a grassy pitch. Then Mehrab should come in place of Rokib.

abu2abu
July 16, 2009, 05:33 AM
This is a great piece on the ongoing shenanigans at the WICB: http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/414607.html

mahbubH
July 16, 2009, 05:48 AM
That's true. He is the best in their lineup. High possibility for a grassy pitch. Then Mehrab should come in place of Rokib.I like Rock over Mehrab for this test. Rock should get more chances in test matches.

zainab
July 16, 2009, 06:35 AM
Alok is the real deal.

Really! Why?

What has Alok done recently for BD cricket?

Has he ever made any contribution to give BD a victory?
The only cricketer among the ICLers who should be brought back and nurtured is Aftab.

BD has a bunch of good young players and should be kept together.

bujhee kom
July 16, 2009, 06:40 AM
Dearest Zain apa,
Are you very ungry because your West Indies lost to us?
Are you very sad about it? Please don't be sad, we will probably lose again, who knows, the real West Indies is a very strong and powerful team!
Are you cursing BD,Tamim and Riyad and Shakib now a days....hahahaha?

zainab
July 16, 2009, 07:21 AM
Dearest Zain apa,
Are you very ungry because your West Indies lost to us?
Are you very sad about it? Please don't be sad, we will probably lose again, who knows, the real West Indies is a very strong and powerful team!
Are you cursing BD,Tamim and Riyad and Shakib now a days....hahahaha?

what makes you think that I am sad that WI lost? I find it distasteful for you to say that I am cursing BD, including Tamim, Riyad and Shakib, I support BD.''I am happy for them.

My advice is that you should try to read all my posts and then you have the license to write what you think. I was just responding to some one who said that Alok should be brought back into the team.

Maybe, you are so overjoyed at this win, that you did not stop to think about my feelings.

Isnaad
July 16, 2009, 08:02 AM
We will win this too!

Isnaad
July 16, 2009, 08:02 AM
This time by a bigger margin....

abu2abu
July 16, 2009, 08:54 AM
Here's the Cricinfo preview which seems to suggest Nazmul will play. I think they're wrong, if we go for an extra seamer it's got to be mahbubul alam:

History beckons for Bangladesh

The Preview by Jamie Alter

Match facts

Friday, July 17, 2009
Start time 10.00am (14.00 GMT)



The Big Picture



Shakib Al Hasan and Mahmuddulah dominated the first Test without exactly breaking their backs to do so. Can they help clinch a rare series win? © AFP



Related Links
Players/Officials: Mahmudullah | Omar Phillips
Matches: West Indies v Bangladesh at St George's
Series/Tournaments: Bangladesh tour of West Indies
Teams: Bangladesh | West Indies


Now this is a situation Bangladesh aren't accustomed to. Undoubtedly buoyant after beating West Indies in St Vincent, Bangladesh go into the second and final Test as favourites, something they have never been against Test opposition. Forget the ugly spat between the WICB and WIPA, forget that a second-string team was put together at the last minute. The ICC recognises this as a West Indies team and Bangladesh beat them fair and square. Bangladesh need only draw this game for their first series win overseas, and second ever.

They still didn't hit the heights in the first Test but Bangladesh were good enough in the end to seal the win they needed to take a 1-0 series lead. With momentum and the knowledge that conditions in Grenada could be subcontinental, the tourists have to be fancied to wrap up the series by winning the final Test. Even Mashrafe Mortaza's absence through injury may not have a dampening effect on the team, for the man who stood in for him, Shakib Al Hasan, bowled superbly and captained exceptionally on the fifth day in St Vincent as the hosts threatened to pull off a gritty escape. Bangladesh will rely heavily on their spinners Mahmudullah and Shakib and if conditions in Grenada favour spin they may even call up Mehrab Hossain jr.

This is a situation West Indies aren't accustomed to either. As the dispute between board and players rumbles on, West Indies will again field a weakened line-up as they seek to drawn level with Bangladesh. The hosts let themselves down in the first innings in St Vincent and will need to bounce back strongly if they are to avoid a series defeat to Bangladesh. If its inspiration they seek, well then they can look at how on the fifth morning they ran through the Bangladesh tail, taking five wickets for 24 to give themselves an outside chance of winning. The rest will have to come from better application with the bat.

This series was never going to be the stuff of headlines, but there remains enough subtext - and plenty at stake - for this Test to be an intriguing battle.


Form guide

(last five matches, most recent first)
West Indies- LLLDD
Bangladesh - WLLLL


Watch out for ...


Mahmudullah Eight wickets on Test debut, a real bonus for Bangladesh. Mahmudullah, earlier considered a limited-overs specialist, stamped himself on proceedings in St Vincent with the ball, picking up five wickets in West Indies' second innings. He was relentless in applying pressure with his offspin and the home side need to watch out against him.

Omar Phillips Another debutant who made an impression in St Vincent. The young opener fell six short of what he described as "one of the easiest hundreds you will ever get at this level". Phillips' innings had laid a strong foundation for a sizable lead before Bangladesh struck back to limit the damage to 69 runs. His departure for 94, when he played a loose shot off Rubel to short cover, Phillips said, was a consequence of a change in tactics after he had reached the 90s. If he gets as far again and doesn't make any changes, watch out Bangladesh.


Team news


It is difficult to see Bangladesh tinkering with the unit that finally won a Test. The only change, forced by injury, will be fast bowler Nazmul Hossain for Mortaza.

Bangladesh: (probable) 1 Tamim Iqbal, 2 Imrul Kayes, 3 Junaid Siddique, 4 Mohammad Ashraful, 5 Raqibul Hasan, 6 Shakib Al Hasan, 7 Mushfiqur Rahim (wk), 8 Mahmudullah, 9 Shahadat Hossain, 10 Rubel Hossain, 11 Nazmul Hossain.

The West Indies selectors have retained their new-look squad for the second Test, with batsman Ryan Hinds added to the team. Floyd Reifer, the captain, said after the first match that West Indies might play another batsman. In that case the likely candidate would be Hinds, who last played a Test in March in the home series against England. He will probably replace the offspinner Nikita Miller, who went wicketless. The rest of the bowlers from the first Test should pick themselves. If West Indies retain faith in Miller - who batted stubbornly for 63 minutes and 54 balls in the second innings - and decide not to play an extra batsman Hinds may still get the nod and replace Travis Dowlin who contributed only 22 and 19 in St Vincent.

West Indies: (probable) 1 Omar Phillips, 2 Dale Richards, 3 Floyd Reifer (capt), 4 Travis Dowlin, 5 David Bernand, 6 Ryan Hinds, 7 Chadwick Walton (wk), 8 Darren Sammy, 9 Kemar Roach, 10 Ryan Austin, 11 Tino Best.



Pitch and conditions

Grenada has only hosted one Test, in 2002, and that was a three-innings, high-scoring draw. This is a track known to wear slowly and assist spin as the days go on. Scattered showers are forecast in the afternoon through the five days, however.


Quotes

"Everybody knows I am not an out-and-out attacking bowler who will fire out batsmen. I like to build pressure and try to get among the wickets."
Darren Sammy calls it as is it.
http://www.cricinfo.com/wivbdesh2009/content/current/story/414664.html

Sovik
July 16, 2009, 09:32 AM
we should win this too

Ashfaq
July 16, 2009, 09:35 AM
what makes you think that I am sad that WI lost? I find it distasteful for you to say that I am cursing BD, including Tamim, Riyad and Shakib, I support BD.''I am happy for them.

My advice is that you should try to read all my posts and then you have the license to write what you think. I was just responding to some one who said that Alok should be brought back into the team.

Maybe, you are so overjoyed at this win, that you did not stop to think about my feelings.

Don't feel offended zainab, I'm more than sure that BK vai didn't mean to offend you. He's joking, I'm sure.

You must in quite a dilemma now. You're probably a stronger BD supporter than some of ys bangladeshis. Now, in the context of the recent WI drama, selecting where your loyalties lie must be one heck of a headache for you I'm sure ;).

zainab
July 16, 2009, 09:56 AM
Dear Siraji, thanks for trying to pacify me.

Quote/
You must in quite a dilemma now. You're probably a stronger BD supporter than some of ys bangladeshis. Now, in the context of the recent WI drama, selecting where your loyalties lie must be one heck of a headache for you I'm sure .

Indeed, I am not, I support BD against any team, but if WI is playing against any other team, I support them. i feel sorry for what is happening to WI cricket, but the Board is acting as bullies, so I am happy the the players are standing up to them.

I hope everyone knows where my loyalties are, or else I would not be a member of this forum. Also, everyone knows the way I feel about Ash and i am so sad for him. Also Tamim, Mushy and Sakib are among my favourite players, liked them from the 2007 WC when they beat England. I knew then that they will be promising players in a few years, they have a far way to go because youth is on their side. I was so upset when Mushy was dropped, but happy to see him in the side. he brings life and fun to this
team.




__________________

Kabir
July 16, 2009, 10:02 AM
Also, everyone knows the way I feel about Ash and i am so sad for him. Also Tamim, Mushy and Sakib are among my favourite players, liked them from the 2007 WC when they beat England.

When...where? How? :)

abu2abu
July 16, 2009, 10:09 AM
When...where? How? :)

That's right they've never beaten England. Though in 2007 (thanks to Shakib and Rafique) they came mighty close...

nycpro96
July 16, 2009, 10:14 AM
this will be a fun match :D

AsifTheManRahman
July 16, 2009, 10:28 AM
When...where? How? :)
Looks like Zainab is more delusional than the average Bangladeshi fan. :)

bujhee kom
July 16, 2009, 11:08 AM
what makes you think that I am sad that WI lost? I find it distasteful for you to say that I am cursing BD, including Tamim, Riyad and Shakib, I support BD.''I am happy for them.

My advice is that you should try to read all my posts and then you have the license to write what you think. I was just responding to some one who said that Alok should be brought back into the team.

Maybe, you are so overjoyed at this win, that you did not stop to think about my feelings.
Dear Zainab apu, I am truly sorry that I made you feel bad! I KNOW you love those kids as your own young little brothers! I know how much you care and support and love the BD cricket entity! Your heart and constant kind constructive thoughts that it generates for the Tigers are beyond admirable!
I am truly sorry that my lame joke hurt your feeling, it was meant to be silly and funny, never to hurt you or make you feel bad! I just thought you, along with many of my dear fellow BC-ites were familiar with my silly crazy expressions and way of babling!:) I sincerely ask for your forgiveness for this misunderstanding!:saint:

Kabir
July 16, 2009, 11:13 AM
Bujhee Kom bro...sorry won't do...
10 times kaan dhore uth bosh koren...that's the shasti you get :D

Tigers_eye
July 16, 2009, 11:19 AM
Burger King heavy jhari khaisey!! moskhara korano chutaisey. :bighug:
+++
Its not England but South Africa Zainab meant. Which was the #1 team then and even better.

Roni_uk
July 16, 2009, 11:34 AM
now this is a situation bangladesh aren't accustomed to. Undoubtedly buoyant after beating west indies in st vincent, bangladesh go into the second and final test as favourites, something they have never been against test opposition.


love it


the icc recognises this as a west indies team and bangladesh beat them fair and square.


love it


with momentum and the knowledge that conditions in grenada could be subcontinental, the tourists have to be fancied to wrap up the series by winning the final test.



love it


even mashrafe mortaza's absence through injury may not have a dampening effect on the team


love it


this is a situation west indies aren't accustomed to either.


love it


watch out for ...

Mahmudullah eight wickets on test debut, a real bonus for bangladesh. Mahmudullah, earlier considered a limited-overs specialist, stamped himself on proceedings in st vincent with the ball, picking up five wickets in west indies' second innings. He was relentless in applying pressure with his offspin and the home side need to watch out against him.


love it



pitch and conditions

grenada has only hosted one test, in 2002, and that was a three-innings, high-scoring draw. This is a track known to wear slowly and assist spin as the days go on. Scattered showers are forecast in the afternoon through the five days, however.



love it

AsifTheManRahman
July 16, 2009, 11:38 AM
So a subcontinent like track that opens up and offers rip on the last days of the game. I'm sure our spinners are licking their lips!

Nadim
July 16, 2009, 11:56 AM
less than 24 hours left.come on Bangladesh:D

Ajfar
July 16, 2009, 12:19 PM
how's the weather looking?

ma_o_mati
July 16, 2009, 01:25 PM
Go on boyz, you can do it!....Make your motherland proud...

wiseshah
July 16, 2009, 01:50 PM
When...where? How? :)


i guess she meant india. against india tamim, sakib and mushy all scored half century

wiseshah
July 16, 2009, 01:52 PM
Dear Zainab apu, I am truly sorry that I made you feel bad! I KNOW you love those kids as your own young little brothers! I know how much you care and support and love the BD cricket entity! Your heart and constant kind constructive thoughts that it generates for the Tigers are beyond admirable!
I am truly sorry that my lame joke hurt your feeling, it was meant to be silly and funny, never to hurt you or make you feel bad! I just thought you, along with many of my dear fellow BC-ites were familiar with my silly crazy expressions and way of babling!:) I sincerely ask for your forgiveness for this misunderstanding!:saint:


dear bujhee kom, apologize to all Bd fan, all west indies fan, all cricket fan, all sports fan. lol.

tarpor o khoma nai

say sorry in public TV.

wiseshah
July 16, 2009, 01:55 PM
among the cricketers face book regular: enam jr, syed rasel, dhiman ghosh, nadif chowdhury, israq sonet and shafaq al jabir

dont add ashraful, its not real ashraful, some one made an account and trying to fool people with wrong english.

shahriar nafees is still beadab in facebook
from oldies: khaled masud pilot is regular writer

wiseshah
July 16, 2009, 01:57 PM
Commencum Kickomnimus Gluteus Maximus!


r u some how related with medicine?
most people dont have any clue about gluteus maximus, medius or minimus and their innervation and function

RazabQ
July 16, 2009, 02:00 PM
you don't have to know latin to know what Gopal wrote ... butt whippin be butt whippin :)

AsifTheManRahman
July 16, 2009, 02:01 PM
most people dont have any clue about gluteus maximus, medius or minimus and their innervation and function
That's not true. Even my 5 year old cousin refers to it as gluteus maximus - his KG teacher instructs him and his friends to glue the gluteus maximus to the chair when they're being rowdy and running around.

MohammedC
July 16, 2009, 02:08 PM
My Eleven for 2nd Test.

Tamim
Imrul
Zunaid
Rokibul
Ashraful
Shakib
Mushfiq
Riyad
Rajib/Enam Jr (depending on the pitch)
Robin
Rubel

Win toss field first dont bat and give the adavtage to Sammy and co. Pitch will be moist on day one and will only give advantage to Windies bowler. Once the pitch drys it will be easier for our batsmen.

AsifTheManRahman
July 16, 2009, 02:10 PM
But what happens when the pitch cracks on the fourth/fifth day and we have to bat in the fourth inning?

I say bat first, do what you have to do to glue your gluteus maximus to the pitch for the first session and reap the benefits of a drying surface, and later on, a cracked up one (with the ball).

Kabir
July 16, 2009, 02:14 PM
Batting first is the only option we have. No other option. IMO.

Beamer
July 16, 2009, 02:17 PM
Batting first is the only option we have. No other option. IMO.

Yep and more importantly against this team. We want them to bat last if possible and hoping that our spinners will take care of them. Some people were critical last test after we decided to bat. Its actually laughable.

WarWolf
July 16, 2009, 02:21 PM
Bat first.

Murad
July 16, 2009, 02:23 PM
I hope CI is wrong about Nazmul. Robin should play in place of Mash.
Nazmul can replace Mash in ODIs.

Rest of the team should be same.

Fazal
July 16, 2009, 02:23 PM
I say field first and rip the benefit of green pitch in first innings. Then bat in the middle of the days( 2-3) when pitch ease up and build a huge score and then finish the game by end of 4th day or early 5th day.

Positives?
- There will be no frustration by the fans why we are not declaring early enough.

- If WI is in winning situation, they need to make a hard decision when to declare.

- WI fast bowlers are more threat to us than WI spinners.

- To win, we need a good fist innings lead, by batting 2nd day and beyound will
enhance that chance

- WI will be more agressive to even up the series, so let them be agressive and take chances and we will take opportunity out of that. This may give us an opportunity to win a drawn match.

- While batting last, you have more chance to contoll the game than bolwing last. Specially as this is relatively a more batting friendly pitch when early advantage to FBs goes away beyound 1st day.

cricket_pagol
July 16, 2009, 02:31 PM
It seems Mehrab is considered as Mashrafee's replacement... I really wanted a genuine spinner like Enamul to replace Mashrafee.

Kabir
July 16, 2009, 02:33 PM
I'ld understand Mehrab's inclusion. We did need some batting support, and Mehrab can do that for us.

It'll be good to have him in the team.

Beamer
July 16, 2009, 02:41 PM
Fazal

Except that our pacers are not good enough to reap any benefit with a green top, even against these WI line-up! Did you see the first over six in last test? High confidence! They have no problems with our pacers initially, and only time our pacers did some damage, when the ball became old, by way of some reversing which put them in the backfoot.

WI fast bowlers will be of some threat in the morning period, but that can't be the reason why we would defer. Openers will have to face it, just as they have to face it anywhere else when asked to bat, and against better fast bowlers. Winning the toss and fielding will be a extremely negative move. Besides, its our spinners that we are banking on. I assure you if WI wins the toss, they will bat. We must do the same.

zainab
July 16, 2009, 02:49 PM
Looks like Zainab is more delusional than the average Bangladeshi fan. :)

I beg your pardon. My typo error, it should be India, was thinking about England in the Ashes, wantthose boys to bat Australia.

Fazal
July 16, 2009, 02:51 PM
Beamer,
I believe unlike last pitch this is more greener and overall batsman friendly. If our FB cannot give us some wickets, I don't see how we can get 20 wickets and win a game in this pitch.

In last TEST the pitch was more spinner friendly, and part time spinner Ryiad and Ashraful gave us 10 wickets. I can hope, but I doubt that we will be that lucky again by getting 10 wickets from our part time spinners.

If we think we should win this game, I think, we need to trust on out FBs and hope that our FBs will do better in this test.

Kabir
July 16, 2009, 02:54 PM
I beg your pardon. My typo error, it should be India, was thinking about England in the Ashes, wantthose boys to bat Australia.

We were all kidding, you know that. It's great to have a non-Bangladeshi support our team. Trust me.

zainab
July 16, 2009, 02:57 PM
Dear Zainab apu, I am truly sorry that I made you feel bad! I KNOW you love those kids as your own young little brothers! I know how much you care and support and love the BD cricket entity! Your heart and constant kind constructive thoughts that it generates for the Tigers are beyond admirable!
I am truly sorry that my lame joke hurt your feeling, it was meant to be silly and funny, never to hurt you or make you feel bad! I just thought you, along with many of my dear fellow BC-ites were familiar with my silly crazy expressions and way of babling! I sincerely ask for your forgiveness for this misunderstanding!


Bujhee Kom, no hard feelings, apology accepted. Indeed, sometimes you make my day with your craziness, i nominate you as the most fanatic supporter of Bangladesh cricket, but try to get more sleep, and dont get so agitated, relax and accept the team for what they are, even if they fail.

I personally have had my moments of blissful joy and dark despair supporting them, but I do not love them less.

Let's hope that they can win this Test series.
__________________

Beamer
July 16, 2009, 02:58 PM
But Fazal, I trust our two Openers more than our two FB's.

Kabir
July 16, 2009, 02:59 PM
No, B_K (Burger King) bhai is the most emotional supporter of BD cricket.

That day he did mention that he was crying...for our first innings mess. Sorry...but I was like :lol:

Tigers_eye
July 16, 2009, 03:06 PM
Win the toss and bat first.

Doesn't matter how much bounce the wickets have this is the time make some batting records (both innings). The equation has changed and winning is less important than preserving the series. So Piling up runs should be the only strategy for BD (five sessions at least). With the wicket in hand, we have see of the openning spell. This is where all the experience from NZ, SA should be applied. The mistakes we did in the first test should be avoided.

Now if we lose the toss, we take whatever is handed to us and make the best of use.

FaridpurChicago
July 16, 2009, 03:22 PM
It seems Mehrab is considered as Mashrafee's replacement... I really wanted a genuine spinner like Enamul to replace Mashrafee.

What is the source? It is better decision to cover up the batting of Ashraful. Since we are one middle order batsman short (almost sure that Ash will make single digit), we needed a spinner and a batter. Enamul Jnr would be good if you drop Ash and that's not happening anyway I believe.

Murad
July 16, 2009, 03:45 PM
he has certainly not live up to his potential...but he's far from the Main reason BD cricket is so far away from promise land. I look at the stats and it baffles my mind why Shahadat gets so much of the fans' wrath? Because he has a long run up and grunts without any significant pace generated? I understand that it can bother the batsman...but so does Mushi's constant meaningless "Bokor bokor"..I din;t see him getting bashed for that. Is it because Shahadat has an aggressive attitude a fast bowler should have; but he is not truly a fast bowler? so u can't have a positie attitude unless you are Brett Lee or Shoaib Akhter? I don;t remember him comparing himself to Lee or Akhter. It;s the fans who make those assumptions and then bash the athlete when those unrealistic assumptions don;t come true.

The real reason I think Shahadat is so often criticised is that he doesn't have the
typical Banglai "Minmina biral" attitude. we just don;t understand the concept that COCKY can be a good thing sometimes. Guys like Kallis, Chris cairns had no significant pace; but still walked up to the batsmen and looked them righ tin the eye after beating them...I don't think their fans ridiculed them for not having enough pace.

Bro no one is complaining about his attitude. Everyone loves it. But its his pace that annyoing everyone. He hardly bowled over 80MPH. He screams like he is gonna bowl a 90MPH delivery but bowls a 65 MPH short ball. This is not what everyoen wants to see from a fast bowler. If he bowls like this, I see no reason for not including Rasel in the Test team.

Kallis had no significant pace? What are you talkign about bro? Kallis mostly bowls over 80MPH and he hit 85MPH atleast once in an over. Kallis's speed range "75-85MPH".

bangla-red
July 16, 2009, 03:54 PM
Kallis is way faster - in the WT20, he was getting 90MPH.

Fazal
July 16, 2009, 04:05 PM
So what is the latest scoop?

Who is In and who is out?

simon
July 16, 2009, 05:24 PM
I just want to see Mushfiq one step up the order.
He is surely the most consistent btsman but he is finding it hard to play a big innings as he has
to bat with the tail enders.

sarwar_bd
July 16, 2009, 05:31 PM
I hope CI is wrong about Nazmul. Robin should play in place of Mash.
Nazmul can replace Mash in ODIs.

Rest of the team should be same.

I don't want to see Nazmul in 2nd Test as well. If it's a typical Grenada pitch then Enamul Haque jnr would be a good choice as well. I am not satisfied with the way Raqibul is batting, Mehrab Jr in Raqibul's place might be a good choice.

:flag::flag::flag::flag:

BanCricFan
July 16, 2009, 05:52 PM
If we bat first tomorrow nothing less than 350 would do. First innings woe continues to haunt us. JS needs to address this urgently...if he doesnt know this already ;)

BanCricFan
July 16, 2009, 06:00 PM
If we bat first tomorrow nothing less than 350 would do. First innings woe continues to haunt us. JS needs to address this urgently...if he doesnt know this already ;)

wiseshah
July 16, 2009, 06:01 PM
you don't have to know latin to know what Gopal wrote ... butt whippin be butt whippin :)


i dont think its latin word.

asif, that info was interesting. I guess english speaking countries use muscle name. I think, In bangladesh, people dont know most of the muscles name, except medicine student and gym instructor

Bruno
July 16, 2009, 06:16 PM
Will hot Tamima and Zunina score BIG again?

RazabQ
July 16, 2009, 06:21 PM
@wiseshah - I think the general BD populate probably knows the names of a few [বাংলা]পেশি[/বাংলা]s

sarwar_bd
July 16, 2009, 06:22 PM
It seems Mehrab is considered as Mashrafee's replacement... I really wanted a genuine spinner like Enamul to replace Mashrafee.

I think same way. We need another specialist spinner. Riyad got wickets in 1st match, but you can't expect that from him every time. We need to look at the overall team, why can't we afford 3 places for only bowlers ( Rajib, Rubel, & Enamul), 2 all-rounders (Sakib, & Riyad)? I think we can.

:flag::flag::flag:

Best of luck tigers!!!

sarwar_bd
July 16, 2009, 06:24 PM
if we bat first tomorrow nothing less than 350 would do. First innings woe continues to haunt us. Js needs to address this urgently...if he doesnt know this already ;)

ঠিকই বলেছেন ভাই। প্রথম ইনিংসে বড় সংগ্রহ হলে চাপটা অনেক কম থাকে।

sarwar_bd
July 16, 2009, 06:31 PM
experts all also looking for another spinner, especially Enamul.

http://www.jaijaidin.com/details.php?nid=141420

bujhee kom
July 16, 2009, 06:33 PM
Hey guys, I don't know about you guys, but I am vely very excited and ghapti mere boshe achi match shuru howar jonno!

AsifTheManRahman
July 16, 2009, 06:35 PM
Burger King bhai, amaro ghum hobe na ajke raate.

Murad
July 16, 2009, 06:51 PM
experts all also looking for another spinner, especially Enamul.

http://www.jaijaidin.com/details.php?nid=141420

YOu call them expert? Do Faruq and Lipu know what is Test cricket all about?

Sauron
July 16, 2009, 08:52 PM
Beamer,
I believe unlike last pitch this is more greener and overall batsman friendly.

Sounds like an oxymoron to me. Green and Batsman friendly??? Having hard time reconciling. Where did you get this info? Pls quote.

.

Mav
July 16, 2009, 08:55 PM
Ashraful Babuta ki khelbe?

bujhee kom
July 16, 2009, 09:06 PM
I have a feeling bhais and apas, InshAllah, Ashraful will score big, I mean big in this innings/match, Inshallah!
My prayers are always with Ashraful!

Mav
July 16, 2009, 09:15 PM
I have a feeling bhais and apas, InshAllah, Ashraful will score big, I mean big in this innings/match, Inshallah!
My prayers are always with Ashraful!


I always feel so, but Eid only comes twice a year.

BaCkYaRd_Tiger
July 16, 2009, 09:17 PM
need genuine spiner Like Enamul not fooltoss spinner like Mehrab.. i know he has batting option as well but we really need good bowler rather than all rounder.

Fazal
July 16, 2009, 09:32 PM
Sounds like an oxymoron to me. Green and Batsman friendly??? Having hard time reconciling. Where did you get this info? Pls quote.
.

I read some where (still trying to find out where) that this pitch will be greener than the last one. Plus the following quote also give the impression that it will be wet (an may be greener) at least in the first day. Plus it also says the pitch deteriorate slowly and most likely provide high scoring games (based on past TEST). That gave me a feeling that it will be greener pitch and will help the FBs in the first day or so, but eventually the pitch will become more batting friendly.

Here is the quote


Grenada has only hosted one Test, in 2002, and that was a three-innings, high-scoring draw. This is a track known to wear slowly and assist spin as the days go on. Scattered showers are forecast in the afternoon through the five days, however. The teams' training sessions were interrupted by rain. "It [the pitch] was a touch wet when we saw it on Wednesday. A bit of moisture maybe on top. It will be interesting to see how it eventually looks," said Shakib. link (http://www.cricinfo.com/wivbdesh2009/content/current/story/414664.html)
anyway if I find the other link I will give the link where they said (I think) it will be greener than last pitch.

Today's game commentary valide that the pitch is indeed more grassy...


"The pitch has something in it for the bowlers with some grass on it. Bending the back will certainly get wickets opines Dujon"
http://www.cricinfo.com/wivbdesh2009/engine/current/match/401072.html

PoorFan
July 16, 2009, 09:42 PM
Win the toss and then bat and bat and bat ... the win is there. We wont be able to make big score in second innings batting 4th, 5th day. I am not concern with our bowlers, they will do just fine if not better I guess. If we cant take second string WI wickets, then we better concentrate on our batting and look for maximum score in both innings, so at least we can save [draw] the match and win the series.

We should not give WI the chace to pile up a good score first, and put us under pressure to bat well.

wiseshah
July 16, 2009, 10:10 PM
if najmul play tomorrow, why he was not selected at the first place? why team chose robin instead of him for test match?

i think robin should play 2nd match, instead of najmul

djnaved
July 16, 2009, 10:13 PM
if najmul play tomorrow, why he was not selected at the first place? why team chose robin instead of him for test match?

i think robin should play 2nd match, instead of najmul

it will be an embarassment situation for robin if nazmul plays tomorrow...............if bd needs another fast bowler it should be robin, no doubt.........

bujhee kom
July 16, 2009, 10:15 PM
if najmul play tomorrow, why he was not selected at the first place? why team chose robin instead of him for test match?
i think robin should play 2nd match, instead of najmul
it will be an embarassment situation for robin if nazmul plays tomorrow...............if bd needs another fast bowler it should be robin, no doubt.........
Totally agree! Absolutely!

wiseshah
July 16, 2009, 10:24 PM
Hey guys, I don't know about you guys, but I am vely very excited and ghapti mere boshe achi match shuru howar jonno!


hey BK, lol. It was cute comments, lol, funny also.

cricadda
July 16, 2009, 10:31 PM
if najmul play tomorrow, why he was not selected at the first place? why team chose robin instead of him for test match?

i think robin should play 2nd match, instead of najmul

i think its a good idea. beacuse robin swing the ball around better than najmul. but for odi, nazmul is better than robin.

tiger_omar
July 16, 2009, 11:37 PM
Very excited about tomorrow's match. Hopefully the boys don't dissapoint. Unfortunatly, I will be at work for most of the game. Would really appreciate seeing some highlights at the end of the day.

Good luck to Bangladesh!

kalpurush
July 16, 2009, 11:51 PM
if najmul play tomorrow, why he was not selected at the first place? why team chose robin instead of him for test match?

Now thats a valid question.

Zeeshan
July 17, 2009, 12:23 AM
how come they dont get to do toss to see who will call first for heads or tails?

dash
July 17, 2009, 12:39 AM
According the PA there are two pitches readied for this test. one of them has a lot of grass on it and bd team feels that the grassy one is most likely to be used.

bujhee kom
July 17, 2009, 12:39 AM
Ki bhais, sobai khoob excited hoe ghapti mere bose achen bujhi. ki bolen?

Kabir
July 17, 2009, 12:49 AM
how come they dont get to do toss to see who will call first for heads or tails?

Then they should do a toss to call who gets to call for the toss that will decide who calls for heads or tails.

Kabir
July 17, 2009, 12:51 AM
Ki bhais, sobai khoob excited hoe ghapti mere bose achen bujhi. ki bolen?

Apni heavy mojar public dekhi bhai :lol:

Ghapti mere boshi nai...kaaj korchi...ekhono shesh hoy nai...but ekhon na ghumaile kalker khela'r shomoy ghumaite hobe...which I don't want...tai ekhon ghumaite jachchi...almost 2 am here :(

Zeeshan
July 17, 2009, 12:58 AM
Then they should do a toss to call who gets to call for the toss that will decide who calls for heads or tails.

Then how come they don't do that? It's not fair. Entire outcome of match hinges upon this pivot.

Baundule
July 17, 2009, 01:13 AM
I was wondering what happened to Dollar Mahmud. Why they are calling this proven failure Nazmul? Our currency guys should have demolished WI with their swing and pace.

One World
July 17, 2009, 01:13 AM
Yeah, lets kick some ***(glutes).

Dhruvo
July 17, 2009, 01:18 AM
I dont think I can watch the test match guys, my dad just came back from the hospital after his disc got rearranged somehow, its really serious. :(

One World
July 17, 2009, 01:28 AM
...but ekhon na ghumaile kalker khela'r shomoy ghumaite hobe...which I don't want...tai ekhon ghumaite jachchi...

Ami to ghumaite ghumaite dekhi, jege jegeo dekhi.
:fire:

Antora
July 17, 2009, 01:50 AM
which website did you all watch the last test match?

Zeeshan
July 17, 2009, 01:52 AM
which website did you all watch the last test match?

shoo! shoo! antoramoni..... go and play with your barbie.

borora kotha bolle disturp korte nei :P

bujhee kom
July 17, 2009, 01:57 AM
I dont think I can watch the test match guys, my dad just came back from the hospital after his disc got rearranged somehow, its really serious. :(
Ooohhh Dhrubo bhaiya! Maan, I am so sorry, hope dad gets better soon and hope that you will get to follow the ODIs....All my prayers are with you and your dad bro!

One World
July 17, 2009, 02:08 AM
how come they dont get to do toss to see who will call first for heads or tails?

After circumspection of the evolution theory ICC came into the conclusion to that "As cricket is played and only played by Homo Sapiens who does not bear a tail, only carries a head then it is not wise to go for a toss on both at the beginning, so it should be excluded and could be kept ciphered."

Shehwar
July 17, 2009, 02:35 AM
we need to bat once and bat BIG!

Gowza
July 17, 2009, 02:41 AM
we need to bat once and bat BIG!

this would be awesome, i'd love to see a couple of centuries from the BD boys.

Nadim
July 17, 2009, 02:57 AM
only 6 hours left...

abu2abu
July 17, 2009, 03:52 AM
I’m a little bit worried about the BD think tank. I had never even considered the prospect of mehrab playing in this match as a spinning all-rounder. I just assumed that with mash out of the side we’d either replace him with a seamer (robin or nazmul) or an additional spinner (enamul).

Now I can understand why the management want to do play mehrab. They know that batting is our main problem and that without Mashrafe and Shahadat’s batting contribution in the first innings we would probably have failed to win that test.

Mehrab offers a solid batting option, but a questionable bowling one.

I just think this is a very defensive mindset which will not augur well for a win. This is the same sort of mindset that said we should bat for an hour or so on the 5th day, extending our lead before declaring and giving ourselves 75 overs to bowl the windies out. We now know that 75 overs would probably not have been nearly enough time to bowl them out.

I don’t think this kind of thinking will get us wins. To win, you need to be attacking and take risks. It is far better to have a “proper” bowling attack than to draft in all-rounders in the dubious hope that they will score vital runs.

raf-stah
July 17, 2009, 04:24 AM
tigers out of their natural habitat on a mission to conquer the carribbean.

kmon ladz!!

bd-omi
July 17, 2009, 04:27 AM
Hopefully the Tigers will put up a better performance in this match and thrash the big mouthed WI players for long..... :p
Specially Reifer, Sammy and Omar Phillips.

Nadim
July 17, 2009, 04:33 AM
Here is the playing XI for the 2nd test......Enamul is in for Mash...

Bangladesh : Shakib Al Hasan (Captain), Tamim Iqbal, Imrul Kayes, Zunaed Siddique, Roqibul Hassan, Mohammad Ashraful, Mushfiqur Rahim (Wicketkeeper), Mahmud Ullah, Shahadat Hossain, Enamul Haque Jr., Rubel Hossain. 12th man – Mehrab Hossain Jr.

bd-omi
July 17, 2009, 04:54 AM
Here is the playing XI for the 2nd test......Enamul is in for Mash...

Bangladesh : Shakib Al Hasan (Captain), Tamim Iqbal, Imrul Kayes, Zunaed Siddique, Roqibul Hassan, Mohammad Ashraful, Mushfiqur Rahim (Wicketkeeper), Mahmud Ullah, Shahadat Hossain, Enamul Haque Jr., Rubel Hossain. 12th man – Mehrab Hossain Jr.

Source plz?

Nadim
July 17, 2009, 05:07 AM
Source plz?http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=30276

Antora
July 17, 2009, 05:53 AM
shoo! shoo! antoramoni..... go and play with your barbie.

borora kotha bolle disturp korte nei :P

Amio boroE-):-p

CricFanBD
July 17, 2009, 06:09 AM
AAcha keo ki doya kore bolben plz kun website e gale khela dhekte pabo?? Khubi upokar hoto.

bangla-red
July 17, 2009, 06:28 AM
Is desient going to broadcast again?

Nadim
July 17, 2009, 06:30 AM
Is desient going to broadcast again?
more likely yes.:)

btw what is the link again? forgot.

Zeeshan
July 17, 2009, 06:45 AM
still 1 hr 40 + mins to kill.....strip poker anyone.....Bruno?...............Bruno!!

Nadim
July 17, 2009, 06:48 AM
GB je dekhi ajke eto age aisa boisha ache?

Zeeshan
July 17, 2009, 06:50 AM
GB je dekhi ajke eto age aisa boisha ache?

lol no worries nadim........your guru status is not being threatened.

Antora
July 17, 2009, 06:50 AM
if someone remembers the link... can they please pm as I am going to sleep now and If i do wake up I don't have to go through all these pages to find a link..? Thanks in advance :)

Nafi
July 17, 2009, 06:57 AM
if najmul play tomorrow, why he was not selected at the first place? why team chose robin instead of him for test match?

i think robin should play 2nd match, instead of najmul

you guys starting this argument are silly.

Nazmul was only brought in as a back-up, and he's probably going to take part in the one-day series.

Robin definitely gets the go, ahead over nazmul

Nadim
July 17, 2009, 06:59 AM
if someone remembers the link... can they please pm as I am going to sleep now and If i do wake up I don't have to go through all these pages to find a link..? Thanks in advance :)

check ur PM.

bangla-red
July 17, 2009, 07:00 AM
I already Pmed him lol.

Orpheus
July 17, 2009, 07:01 AM
still 1 hr 40 + mins to kill.....strip poker anyone.....Bruno?...............Bruno!!

BC countdown is wrong. Still 2 hours left. It is @ 10 am EST.

nzfan
July 17, 2009, 07:02 AM
I think Nazmul should play, because his name sounds cool, like one of those black riders off lord of the rings

Nadim
July 17, 2009, 07:02 AM
I already Pmed him lol.

lol it's her..i PMed her be4 u PMed me;)

Zeeshan
July 17, 2009, 07:04 AM
lol it's her..i pm her be4 u pm me;)

http://i1.tinypic.com/rs910j.jpg

Tokai
July 17, 2009, 07:05 AM
Nazmul is actually a girlie name. Sounds like Nazmunnahar to me.
Mehrab is actually a better choice because of our all too familiar collapse. He is OK with bat but Naz is not (at least he used to be OK, I don't know now).

anyway, lets hope for a toss win and a whole day of interrupt less play.

CricFanBD
July 17, 2009, 07:06 AM
lol it's her..i PMed her be4 u PMed me;)
Can u plz pm me? It will be highly appriciated.

Nafi
July 17, 2009, 07:07 AM
I would have preferred Robin to play, but I guess with our fragile batting line-up it wasnt feasable.

Nadim
July 17, 2009, 07:07 AM
Can u plz pm me? It will be highly appriciated.

nah coz i only pm girls.lol