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Surfer
September 7, 2009, 02:19 PM
Complete batsmen in tests and ODIs separately. We wont count T20 yet as its too new. Don't bring in fielding abilities, captaincy records, team performances, bowling performances, off field antics, media fights, controversies or anything that does not have to do with his batting performances and abilities.

Chose from Aisan countries, but do justify your rankings. Please don't get carried away with your own players, include them if you genuinely think they belong.

Aisan batsmen means batsmen who have played for Asian teams irrespective of place of birth/origin. Ravi Bopara or Nasser Hussein do not qualify. IPL team representation is not sufficient. You know what I mean.....so just stick to it.

Make two different lists for tests and ODIs.

BD-Shardul
September 7, 2009, 03:13 PM
My list:

Tests: Inzamamul Huq, Rahul Dravid, Kumara Sangakkara, Mahender Singh Dhoni, Mahela Jayawardene

ODIs: Sachin Tendulker, Inzamamul Haque, Kumara Sangakkara, Youvraj Singh, Mahendar Singh Dhoni

chol_bd123
September 7, 2009, 03:18 PM
TESTS: Tendulkar, Inzamaul-haq, Ganguly, Sangakarra, Jaywardane

ODI: Dhoni, Yuvraj SIngh, Mohammed Younis, Shoiab Mailk, and ....

Man I hate not being able to put in of the Bangladeshi players in here. But the sad truth is non of them deserve to be in the to five list. At least not yett...

AsifTheManRahman
September 7, 2009, 10:21 PM
Tests: Habibul Bashar, Shahriar Nafees, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Mushfiqur Rahim
ODIs: Shahriar Nafees, Shakib Al Hasan, Tamim Iqbal, Mohammad Ashraful, Atahar Ali Khan

India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka who?

Zunaid
September 7, 2009, 10:30 PM
India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka who?

Hinterland for the 5th Reich.

Yameen
September 7, 2009, 11:20 PM
Tests: Tendulkar, Gavaskar, Dravid, Sangakarra, Inzy
ODI: Tendulkar, Jayasuriya, Ganguly, Dravid, Sehwag

Imteaz
September 8, 2009, 02:44 AM
Current or All Time Best?

mahbubH
September 8, 2009, 03:11 AM
Test : (1) Arvinda (2) Mahela (3) Sanga (4) Miandad (5) Inzi (not in any particular order)
ODI : (1) Arvinda (2) Sayeed Anwar (3) Miandad (4) Inzi (5) Jaya

Gowza
September 8, 2009, 03:33 AM
tests: tendulkar, mahela, sanga, yousuf, gavaskar. inzi and dravid would be the next 2.

ODIs: tendulkar, saeed anwar, yuvraj, inzi, dhoni.

nzfan
September 8, 2009, 03:47 AM
Test: Hanif Mohammed, Sachin Tendulkar, Sunil Gavaskar, Vinod Kambli, Javed Miandad

One day: Zaheer Abbas, Sachin Tendulkar, Javed Miandad, Sourav Ganguly, Aravinda De silva

_Rafi_
September 8, 2009, 04:10 AM
Test: Yousuf, Jaydwardene, Sangakara, Dravid, Inzy
Odi: Sachin, Jayasuria, Inzy, Sourav, Sayeed Anwar
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Surfer
September 8, 2009, 06:55 AM
My list:

Tests: Inzamamul Huq, Rahul Dravid, Kumara Sangakkara, Mahender Singh Dhoni, Mahela Jayawardene

ODIs: Sachin Tendulker, Inzamamul Haque, Kumara Sangakkara, Youvraj Singh, Mahendar Singh Dhoni

Test : (1) Arvinda (2) Mahela (3) Sanga (4) Miandad (5) Inzi (not in any particular order)
ODI : (1) Arvinda (2) Sayeed Anwar (3) Miandad (4) Inzi (5) Jaya

Test: Yousuf, Jaydwardene, Sangakara, Dravid, Inzy
Odi: Sachin, Jayasuria, Inzy, Sourav, Sayeed Anwar
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Would you folks mind pointing out why you think Gavaskar does not deserve a place in that list? And Dhoni is a better test batsman than Gavaskar, Tendulkar, Yusuf, Miadad, Zaheer Abbas, Rahul Dravid etc? Please explain.

_Rafi_
September 8, 2009, 07:42 AM
Would you folks mind pointing out why you think Gavaskar does not deserve a place in that list? And Dhoni is a better test batsman than Gavaskar, Tendulkar, Yusuf, Miadad, Zaheer Abbas, Rahul Dravid etc? Please explain.

i didnt watch gavaskar or hanif md or other oldy. I listed the player whose performence i hv followed
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bharat
September 8, 2009, 09:48 PM
I am strong believer of Stats , I think they are the best we've got to judge a player without unnecessary biases .Of course we need to take into account where the bastman bats ,strike rate etc

Top 5 Batsmen, Test
1.Tendulkar 2.Dravid 3.Gavaskar 4.Shewag 5.Md. Yousuf

Top 5 Batsmen ,ODI
1.Tendulkar 2.Ganguli 3.Anwar 4.Dhoni 5.DSilva

P.SI have not checked the stats , but the above is based on perception .

BanCricFan
September 8, 2009, 09:59 PM
Test:

Tendulkar. Dravid. Miandad. Inzamam. Yousuf

ODI:

Tendulakr. Sehwag. Anwar. Inzamam. Aravinda

Btw, the list is not in any order here. Frankly, its a futile exercise to put them in order of merits. For me, stats alone doesnt make someone a great.

Hyro
September 9, 2009, 12:42 AM
Test - Sanga, Mahela, Yohana, Tendulkar, Dravid & Inzi

ODI - Dhoni, Shewag, Sanath, Aravinda, Tendulkar, Anwar

Surfer
September 9, 2009, 12:44 AM
Test - Sanga, Mahela, Yohana, Tendulkar, Dravid & Inzi

ODI - Dhoni, Shewag, Sanath, Aravinda, Tendulkar, Anwar

That's a list of six each. And what makes you think that all of them in test category are better than Gavaskar? And that Yohana (Pakistanis will be furious if they see you use this name) is better than Tendukar?

nobody
September 9, 2009, 01:08 AM
A subcontinental top five test batsmen without Gavasker and Hanif is incomplete. I did not saw him bat is not an excuse because then Bradman is who? My top 5 in batting order
1 Hanif
2 Gavasker
3 Zaheer/ Dravid
4 Tendy
5 Miandad
I did not saw Zaheer batting (his career and my childhood coincide) but unless he was called Bradman of Asia. That is why he has competition with otherwise Dravid would have been an automatic choice.
Top 5 ODI is a tough one. But I would choose
1. Jayasuria
2. Tendy
3. Sayeed Anwar
4. Dada
5. De Silva
Sehwag, Dhoni, Miandad, Inzy, Yovi are equally good and give the selected five run for their money.

Baundule
September 9, 2009, 01:35 AM
I was thinking of the motto of this thread. Top 5 only and 'batsman', not bowler. ;)
How about making a list of top 5 bowlers?

1. Srinath, 2. Prasad, 3. Kapil, 4. Raju, 5. Robin Singh

Surfer
September 9, 2009, 03:43 AM
I was thinking of the motto of this thread. Top 5 only and 'batsman', not bowler. ;)
How about making a list of top 5 bowlers?

1. Srinath, 2. Prasad, 3. Kapil, 4. Raju, 5. Robin Singh

Lets stick to the topic at present. We can discuss bowlers in another thread.

Surfer
September 9, 2009, 03:45 AM
A subcontinental top five test batsmen without Gavasker and Hanif is incomplete. I did not saw him bat is not an excuse because then Bradman is who? My top 5 in batting order
1 Hanif
2 Gavasker
3 Zaheer/ Dravid
4 Tendy
5 Miandad
I did not saw Zaheer batting (his career and my childhood coincide) but unless he was called Bradman of Asia. That is why he has competition with otherwise Dravid would have been an automatic choice.
Top 5 ODI is a tough one. But I would choose
1. Jayasuria
2. Tendy
3. Sayeed Anwar
4. Dada
5. De Silva
Sehwag, Dhoni, Miandad, Inzy, Yovi are equally good and give the selected five run for their money.

I agree about Zaheer. Not too many on this forum would have seen him bat (I ave not), but that does not make him a lesser batsman.

mahbubH
September 9, 2009, 04:40 AM
I was thinking of the motto of this thread. Top 5 only and 'batsman', not bowler. ;)
How about making a list of top 5 bowlers?

1. Srinath, 2. Prasad, 3. Kapil, 4. Raju, 5. Robin Singh
order is not right. Robin Singh is better than Raju I think and even Kaila Rafique is better than Raju.

_Rafi_
September 9, 2009, 06:31 AM
That's a list of six each. And what makes you think that all of them in test category are better than Gavaskar? And that Yohana (Pakistanis will be furious if they see you use this name) is better than Tendukar?

Tendulkar is god for odi. But is nt god for test. He just slightly better than yusuf or other or may be equal or less.
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Baundule
September 9, 2009, 06:32 AM
order is not right. Robin Singh is better than Raju I think and even Kaila Rafique is better than Raju.
I admit, the order is wrong and also, Rajesh Chouhan is better than V. Raju. Hrishikesh Kanitkar is also a golden boy. But I do not agree with the Rafique part. He is nowhere near the list. :D

patriot
September 9, 2009, 07:47 AM
My list excludes Hanif , Gavaskar , Miandad etc simply because I havn't seen them bat .

Tests :

1 . Inzimam Ul Haq
2 . Rahul Dravid
3 . Mohammed Yousuf
4 . Sachin Tendulkar
5 . Kumar Sangakkara
6. Mohammed Ashraful

ODI :

1 . Inzimam Ul Haq
2 . Saeed Anwar
3 . Yuvraj Singh
4. Tendulkar
5 . Virender Sehwag
6. Mohammed Ashraful

Imteaz
September 10, 2009, 02:49 AM
Testing of Cricket Knowledge. Successful. :)

One World
September 10, 2009, 10:22 PM
Test: Gamvir(Azhar),Tendulkar, Dravid, Miandad, Inzamam
ODI: Tendulkar, Anwar, Basit Ali, Ganguly, Jayasurya(S Nafis)

al Furqaan
September 10, 2009, 11:00 PM
test: gavaskar, dravid, yousuf, sangakkara, tendulkar
ODI: tendulkar, jayasuriya, ?, ?, ?

nzfan
September 11, 2009, 12:05 AM
I still reckon vinod Kambli was right up there with the very best, no idea why he was ever dropped

Averaged 60 in first class and was the fastest indian and one of the fastest batsmen ever to 1000 runs in tests, he claims it was because of his caste but I don't know much about the caste system so who knows

I mean yeah his average did dip a bit, but thats expected when you never have a permanent place in the team, just look at Matthew Sinclair, our best batsmen but is never given a chance so can't play how he likes and just fails. Being in and out of a team is no way to let talent flourish

Gowza
September 11, 2009, 12:14 AM
I still reckon vinod Kambli was right up there with the very best, no idea why he was ever dropped

Averaged 60 in first class and was the fastest indian and one of the fastest batsmen ever to 1000 runs in tests, he claims it was because of his caste but I don't know much about the caste system so who knows

one of the most talented no doubt, but he just didn't play enough test cricket to be able to make a proper comparison with the very best, that's something a few NZ players experienced as well (dempster for example).

nzfan
September 11, 2009, 12:17 AM
Martin Crowe actually never lived up to his talent either even though he averaged 45 in tests

He averaged 60-65 in domestic cricket, its hard to believe that aplayer could average that much on pitches in those days in new zealand

indianx
September 11, 2009, 02:11 AM
Vinod Kambli drank a lot. He was pretty much the opposite of Tendulkar in his personal life, although they were both, some say, equally talented.

Hyro
September 11, 2009, 02:19 AM
That's a list of six each. And what makes you think that all of them in test category are better than Gavaskar? And that Yohana (Pakistanis will be furious if they see you use this name) is better than Tendukar?

cant fit the best to just 5

I havent seen Gavaska or Abbas play...so not gonna rate either of them

Yohanna will always be Yohanna for us Sri Lankans.... Think he converted to Islam because he thought that its the only way to get Pakistan Captaincy..Serves him right for not getting it..sweet justice LOL

BanCricFan
September 11, 2009, 03:45 AM
...Yohanna will always be Yohanna for us Sri Lankans.... Think he converted to Islam because he thought that its the only way to get Pakistan Captaincy..Serves him right for not getting it..sweet justice LOL

Ridiculous statement to say the least. Do you still call Muhammad Ali by his former name in Sri Lanka?

BanCricFan
September 11, 2009, 03:48 AM
ODI: Tendulkar, Anwar, Basit Ali, Ganguly, Jayasurya(S Nafis)

Interesting, indeed!
Where did Vinod/Rokon go wrong?

Imteaz
September 11, 2009, 07:04 AM
Choice deffers.:)

One World
September 11, 2009, 07:27 PM
Interesting, indeed!
Where did Vinod/Rokon go wrong?

Surely, why not Hannan?
Lets see how Vinod and Rokon compares in Asian cricket with Bulbul/Ashraful/Raina/Sehwag/Ramiz.

Shabhu
September 19, 2009, 12:10 AM
Tests:
Tendulkar, Sangakarra, Dravid, Yousuf, Sehwag

ODI:
Tendulkar, Jayasuriya, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Ul-Haq

bujhee kom
September 19, 2009, 12:21 AM
Kirtiman azad, Monsur Ali Khan, Farookh Engineer, Bhishen shing bedi, Alvine Kalicharan, Jeff Dujon,
Anil Dalpat, Sandeep Patil, Smita Patil

Akib
September 19, 2009, 12:30 AM
I am strong believer of Stats , I think they are the best we've got to judge a player without unnecessary biases .Of course we need to take into account where the bastman bats ,strike rate etc

Top 5 Batsmen, Test
1.Tendulkar 2.Dravid 3.Gavaskar 4.Shewag 5.Md. Yousuf

Top 5 Batsmen ,ODI
1.Tendulkar 2.Ganguli 3.Anwar 4.Dhoni 5.DSilva

P.SI have not checked the stats , but the above is based on perception .

Problem is stats can be influenced easily by strength of opposition as well...

I'll just throw some names out there from players I've seen bat (on tv of course)

Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid, Shewag, Inzi, Yousuf, Jayasuria, Sangakara, Saeed Anwar, Jayawardene.

Hyro
September 22, 2009, 11:35 PM
Ridiculous statement to say the least. Do you still call Muhammad Ali by his former name in Sri Lanka?

We can say what the hell we want...He is Yohana for us..end of story :-P

Surfer
September 23, 2009, 02:45 AM
Nothing wrong in calling him Yohana I think. You become popular by one name, that name stays with a lot of people.

Shehwar
September 23, 2009, 03:58 AM
Tests: Inzamam, Aravinda Desilva, Dravid, Sangakara, Tendulkar
ODI: Inzamam, Aravinda Desilva, Tendulkar, Saeed Anwar, Jayasuria