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M.H.Rubel
September 27, 2009, 10:46 PM
Bangladesh head coach Jamie Siddons came up with new strategy for his bowlers whom he wants to contribute with batting on regular basis.
That's why the shrewd technician was seen focused on the bowlers as he sent them to bowling machine to face up the coming deliveries.
According to Siddons, the style of cricket had been changed totally as the bowlers can turn the match with adding some runs which can prove a match winning score.
cricket_king
September 27, 2009, 11:15 PM
And the source of this news?
Eshen
September 27, 2009, 11:23 PM
I guess Siddons can't figure out how to help our batsmen to improve, so he is now trying to make himself useful by teaching batting to bowlers (since he can't help bowlers to improve their bowling either) ;)
M.H.Rubel
September 27, 2009, 11:53 PM
What i feel about BD cricket team,our bowllig attack is not bad.In context of bowlling batting is disappointing specially in TEST.Siddons is trying hard with batsman and we have seen some improvement as well.But i think JS is disappointed about our batsmans, so he plays one extre batsman in the team.He uses Riyadh and Nayeem as 5th boller.This tecnique has strenthen batting but weakning bowling so i think he wants some batting from bowllers,Probably he wants to play with 5 full time bowllers.I think its not bad idea if bowllers can contribute some runs in the board.
auntu
September 28, 2009, 10:42 AM
I guess Siddons can't figure out how to help our batsmen to improve, so he is now trying to make himself useful by teaching batting to bowlers (since he can't help bowlers to improve their bowling either) ;)
But JS has definitely improves our batsman's batting technique.
auntu
September 28, 2009, 10:44 AM
This is the new thoughts of JS:
Click link: Prothom-Alo (http://www.prothom-alo.com/newsite1/detail/date/2009-09-28/news/8178)
Ajfar
September 28, 2009, 10:54 AM
i remember reading somewhere mashrafee said, my first job as a player in the team to perform with the ball, if i can score 20-30 runs and that helps the team, that's even better. but its stupid when your top order can't get the job done, so now you are going to turn to the bowlers. but i'll wait to see some more evidence on this new strategy before making comments on it
abz..+
September 28, 2009, 11:27 AM
This is the new thoughts of JS:
Click link: Prothom-Alo (http://www.prothom-alo.com/newsite1/detail/date/2009-09-28/news/8178)
thanx for the link
One World
September 28, 2009, 11:31 AM
This strategy has both pros and cons written over it. Creating extra pressure to bowlers who with their sub-continental downtrodden nature already lack the ferocity to fight and now asked to execute bludgeoning with the sword.
Tigers_eye
September 28, 2009, 11:37 AM
I guess Siddons can't figure out how to help our batsmen to improve, so he is now trying to make himself useful by teaching batting to bowlers (since he can't help bowlers to improve their bowling either) ;)
Almost two years and he has seen the batsmen the likes of AAA and etc. None have the ability to learn, adapt, correct mistakes and change. And this is the core he selected in the begining of this tenure. So since he can't discard his core and his students can't change, he has to try new strategy, no? That is all. :)
The bowlers have already showed they are prepared to do what it takes = hard work and adapt.
crikfreak
September 28, 2009, 02:07 PM
well if it works why not... bt it'll obviously put more pressure on the bowlers.... i hope tht if this actually happens... the batsman feel some shame at this n get their act together..coz u never know..the human brain works in a wierd way.......
Nafi
September 28, 2009, 02:57 PM
Obviously this is to take advantage of the third Powerplay.
M.H.Rubel
September 28, 2009, 03:12 PM
We have 2 world class bowler Shakib and MASH where as we have no world class bats man.(It seem Tamin has potential to be world class bats man).It indicates whats the condition of our batting.
It takes long time to make a bats man technically sound.JS is trying hard with the batting, ICL exodus has put some negative impact on his work. Other wise i should say JS has don some decent work with our bats man.But it is true we are far more away from the top class batting. And it will take more time there's no doubt.In thats case to win matches against top level teams he wants some assistance from bowlers to get some runs. Its not a bad idea.Even it seems to me that NZ SA AUS is running this way.Specially in ODI.
To me its not a bad idea to have some batting practice for the bowlers but i hope he will not forget bowling is our main strength and he also should try to strengthen our bowling as well .Best of luck JS with new strategy.
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ahms
September 28, 2009, 03:22 PM
Bangladesh head coach Jamie Siddons came up with new strategy for his bowlers whom he wants to contribute with batting on regular basis.
That's why the shrewd technician was seen focused on the bowlers as he sent them to bowling machine to face up the coming deliveries.
According to Siddons, the style of cricket had been changed totally as the bowlers can turn the match with adding some runs which can prove a match winning score.
That means, he has done all that he could do with our batsman. Now he has turned to our bowlers, to turn them into all-rounders. Not a bad idea. At the end, it is the player's responsibility to deliver.
Our players need to see and absorb international cricket and learn from it.
nycpro96
September 28, 2009, 03:53 PM
I dont think this is a bad idea at all. Whats wrong with teaching our tailenders some batting?
Tigers_eye
September 28, 2009, 03:55 PM
Obviously this is to take advantage of the third Powerplay.
I think this is best post in this thread.
Fazal
September 28, 2009, 05:11 PM
I thought our tailenders were doing a decent job.
Its the middle orders who should learn some new tricks from the taklu.
FagunerAgun
September 28, 2009, 06:10 PM
I dont think this is a bad idea at all. Whats wrong with teaching our tailenders some batting?
I agree with this good decision, in any form of games, bowlers have extra responsibility to bat with some success when team needs.
When our batsmen can do their required job then we do not need the bowlers to bat, most of the time.
t697318
September 28, 2009, 07:06 PM
i think they should teach mashrafe and mahmudullah and naeem islam more batting as well, since they have potential, and it'll give us more batsmen
tkandi4
September 28, 2009, 10:16 PM
Dave Whatmore did the samething what JS is trying to do. Dave even brought in a Sri Lankan coach, whose specialty was teaching bowlers to bat, to teach tailenders score runs.
Imteaz
September 28, 2009, 11:18 PM
And the source of this news?
Yet to get that. Otherwise this thread is useless.
<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/ /><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P><P><FONT color=black><FONT face=Considering the news as true, it is a creative decision from Siddons. But we don’t want to depend on tail enders for our batting. It is an extra benefit. Not compulsory. Specialist batters should score regularly. Everyone knows it. Tai na! :)
djnaved
September 29, 2009, 08:27 PM
Bangladesh head coach Jamie Siddons came up with new strategy for his bowlers whom he wants to contribute with batting on regular basis.
That's why the shrewd technician was seen focused on the bowlers as he sent them to bowling machine to face up the coming deliveries.
According to Siddons, the style of cricket had been changed totally as the bowlers can turn the match with adding some runs which can prove a match winning score.
forgot dave whatmore?
Zeeshan
September 29, 2009, 08:33 PM
No, this is.
I think this is best post in this thread.
Why is this even called a strategy?
Ajfar
September 29, 2009, 09:14 PM
Obviously this is to take advantage of the third Powerplay.
it's not always a good plan to save the power play till the end, it might end up back firing.
if i was the coach i'd prefer to take the power play when my best batsman is out there, for us most likely sakib and ashraful. i wouldn't want to save the batting power play till my tail enders come to bat. after all its call Batting power play.
Zeeshan
September 29, 2009, 09:24 PM
it's not always a good plan to save the power play till the end, it might end up back firing.
if i was the coach i'd prefer to take the power play when my best batsman is out there, for us most likely sakib and ashraful. i wouldn't want to save the batting power play till my tail enders come to bat. after all its call Batting power play.
As utilized duly by New Zealand today.
Tigers_eye
September 30, 2009, 09:32 AM
it's not always a good plan to save the power play till the end, it might end up back firing.
if i was the coach i'd prefer to take the power play when my best batsman is out there, for us most likely sakib and ashraful. i wouldn't want to save the batting power play till my tail enders come to bat. after all its call Batting power play.
:floor: 1) They lose their wickets during the powerplay. Not batting powerplay but mandatory 10 overs or the fielding 5 overs. You can't hold water.
:lol: 2) If by any chance they come in to play during non powerplay overs, your best batsman has to stay at the crease at least more than 5 overs even to get settle. Then the utilization of powerplay comes an issue.
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Zee bro, do I have to explain what is a strategy now? :-*
Naf 100, rest 0.
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Taklu basically lok'ta bhaloi asey. Onek innovative bhuddhi asey. I hope he brings back his granite slab out in the field.
Beamer
September 30, 2009, 11:23 AM
Bowlers and tail enders contributing to the scoreboard in terms of runs/ or time spent , in all versions of cricket is not a strategy but a necessity these days. Its a secondary job description however, to add runs or to help a batsman carry on his innings in a support role. Adding more meat to the bone will make the skeleton tough!
Imteaz
October 1, 2009, 01:22 AM
Logic can be said; <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/ /><st1:country-region w:st=Australia</st1:country-region> won yesterday against <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Pakistan</st1:country-region></st1:place> due to batting Power Play. No specialist batsmen were their. :)
Baundule
October 1, 2009, 01:52 AM
Traditionally, our bowlers used to save our faces with their batting abilities. Mashrafe and co. are good enough as tail ender batsmen. It does not matter how much you train them, they can not improve much as batsmen, because their main job is bowling. So, the gain is quite insignificant. On the other hand, their bowling abilities will certainly drop.
Personally, I prefer specialists. Dave focused on making allrounders, because we had all the mediocres. But that situation has changed in recent years and making mediocre so called allrounders does not help in the long run. Tamim and co. has the ability to become top class batsmen, all theý need is adjusting a few technical and mental errors. The same can be said about our new/upcoming bowlers. For example, Rubel has good pace. All he needs is controll over line, length and swing.
I am not a Siddons hater; but he does not allow me to like him either.
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