Batting frustrates Shakib Al Hasan

[Rommel]

Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan has termed as "unacceptable" the host's four-wicket, series-leading victory over Zimbabwe. From 175 for 2 chasing 197 - boosted by timely half-centuries by Tamim Iqbal and Mohammad Ashraful - Bangladesh lost four wickets in 49 balls before eventually winning in the 41st over.

"I did not want to come out in the middle to bat after the way Tamim Iqbal and Mohammad Ashraful had dictated terms, but unfortunately none could finish the job which was really frustrating," said Shakib.

Tamim, who before the game had vowed to answer his captain's call for a more responsible top-order effort, was on 80 when he danced out and missed the ball. Ashraful, who finally found form with 63, fell to a terrible shot outside the off stump. Those two wickets were followed by a middle-order wobble - Raqibul Hasan pulled a short ball out to a fielder in the deep - which left Shakib to come out and settle nerves, but he was clearly peeved at having to do so.

"In such a situation, one can expect to lose three or four wickets. But I should say six wickets is too much for comfort and this is unacceptable," he said. "Either Tamim or Ashraful should have stayed there till the end. We all should know how to finish things off when we got such a small target. I also don't understand why Rokibul played that pull shot at that time. These are very negative signs."

Tamim, named Man of the Match, felt the reverberations. "I'm really very disappointed that I could not satisfy my captain and there is a reason for him to be disappointed," he said. "I knew I had to prolong my innings when I got the start. I want to be a world-class batsman and for that I have to master the craft."

http://www.cricinfo.com/bdeshvzim09/content/current/story/432397.html

Great stuff from Shakib. Finally we have a Captain who is not just satisfied with winning. He really wants to win the right way. This is a guy who will definitely get the best out of his team and he needs to stay as Captain even when Mash is healthy.

[SS]

Valid point...he also has to play captain's knock, get wickets and lead our team to make it happen...Zimb will work hard to level the series

[Antora]

Dayum...Shakib !!!
I agree, he's deffinately a captain who will bring out the best of this team. We Finally have a captain who has a brain!

[Bruno]

Thats Right!

Accountability!

Get used to finishing things up. Own up to your innings. This is a real captain.

I think it is safe to say Shakib should be vested with the captaincy permanently after this series. He is clearly leadership material.

[nycpro96]

I really wonder what is going to happen when Mash gets back

[Dhrubo]

Shakib is the man! About time we had a captain who isnt afraid raise the expectations of the team. I can't wait to see what this guy will become in 4-5 years, players usually reach their peaks by then.

[Murad]

lolz.. what's wrong with the people today? This is the 3rd thread on the same article..:sick:

[Rommel]

lolz.. what's wrong with the people today? This is the 3rd thread on the same article..:sick:

where are the other 2?

[godzilla]

lolz.. what's wrong with the people today? This is the 3rd thread on the same article..:sick:

Ok this does pisses me off a bit. When it was originaly opened by me then it was not ok to be honored as an original thread and was fused with another thread for no reason what so ever. And this guy opens it and its ok. THANKYOU MOD FOR THE FINE TREATMENT TOWARD MY THREAD(in a pissed of way if you did not get my point)!!!:waiting:

[Murad]

where are the other 2?

one is merged with your previous thread and other one got deleted.

[Ajfar]

thats right there's a new boss in town. better get used to it.

[Imteaz]

I wish someone raised the same concern, when Ashraful did the same thing against <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/ /><st1:country-region w:st=<st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region> in 2005 winning match. :)

Well Done Shakib. Your thinking are better than our previous players who are holding the sign of Senior/Ex/Retired in BD cricket.

[yaseer]

Yes, Sakib's thinking process as a captain is perfect.

But, is it really necessary to say it in front of media with players' name?

"In such a situation, one can expect to lose three or four wickets. But I should say six wickets is too much for comfort and this is unacceptable" - It is enough to say to media I think.
But the next few lines with names, like - "I also don't understand why Rokibul played that pull shot at that time" - it would be better if this sort of comments is avoided in front of media. Sakib or JS could have talked with Rakib (I know they definitely have) if they don't understand why Rakib played that shot at that time instead of questioning in public. Sometimes criticizing with name calling from captain in front of media creates unnecessary problems. Need to understand to draw the line while talking to media and I am sure Sakib will learn that fast.

[Imteaz]

May be.

[Shuvo.]

Good to see he is setting some good standards for the team but then I guess any other International captain would have been disappointed with how we batted when only chasing down 197.

But Shakib is doing a good job as leader. I wonder what will happen once Mash returns.. maybe they could both co-captain but right now Shakib is the way to go. :p

[kmasum]

Yes, Sakib's thinking process as a captain is perfect.

But, is it really necessary to say it in front of media with players' name?

"In such a situation, one can expect to lose three or four wickets. But I should say six wickets is too much for comfort and this is unacceptable" - It is enough to say to media I think.
But the next few lines with names, like - "I also don't understand why Rokibul played that pull shot at that time" - it would be better if this sort of comments is avoided in front of media. Sakib or JS could have talked with Rakib (I know they definitely have) if they don't understand why Rakib played that shot at that time instead of questioning in public. Sometimes criticizing with name calling from captain in front of media creates unnecessary problems. Need to understand to draw the line while talking to media and I am sure Sakib will learn that fast.

Valid point..tnx for explaining.
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[FagunerAgun]

http://www.cricinfo.com/bdeshvzim09/content/current/story/432397.html

Great stuff from Shakib. Finally we have a Captain who is not just satisfied with winning. He really wants to win the right way. This is a guy who will definitely get the best out of his team and he needs to stay as Captain even when Mash is healthy.
Excellent attitude from The Ice Man. Thanks Rommel.:flag:

[simon]

I'd still go for Mash.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Yes, Sakib's thinking process as a captain is perfect.

But, is it really necessary to say it in front of media with players' name?

Hehe, Rakibul seems to be every captain's favorite punch bag.

[FagunerAgun]

Yes, Sakib's thinking process as a captain is perfect.

But, is it really necessary to say it in front of media with players' name?

"In such a situation, one can expect to lose three or four wickets. But I should say six wickets is too much for comfort and this is unacceptable" - It is enough to say to media I think.
But the next few lines with names, like - "I also don't understand why Rokibul played that pull shot at that time" - it would be better if this sort of comments is avoided in front of media. Sakib or JS could have talked with Rakib (I know they definitely have) if they don't understand why Rakib played that shot at that time instead of questioning in public. Sometimes criticizing with name calling from captain in front of media creates unnecessary problems. Need to understand to draw the line while talking to media and I am sure Sakib will learn that fast.
I saw Graem Smith and S Ganguly criticized their batsmen, who performed bad, in front of the media, did not backfire.

I read Rokibul's statement, he accepted Sakib's, his captain's, criticism in public and showed his very positive attitude.

[Fazal]

Its easy to pick on Rakibul, who is really a new player and still struggling to establsih his position. We will not see any kind of negativity or resistence from younger players like rakibul. Surprisingly so far Tamim took it sportingly. Good for him and the team.

But things may changes very quickly if
a) Sakib fail to deliver (more often) as he expect from his teammates. Keep in mind, he was also equally responsible for 1st ODI defeat. or/and
b) Sakib is on record critisizing more senior players more often after each of their repeated failures. Based on our track record, repeated failure by senior players may not necessarily means drop from the team.

That is the time when it can backfire for team like us which consist of a bunch of under achievers. At that point Village Politics will start to grow like mushroom within the team. And you will see player revolt and drama like Pakistani team.

[AsifTheManRahman]

That is the time when it can backfire for team like us which consist of a bunch of under achievers. At that point Village Politics will start to grow like mushroom within the team. And you will see player revolt and drama like Pakistani team.
Agreed. He has to make sure not to overdo it.

[Raynman]

I think Shakib knows what he is doing. His comments about Tamim inspired Tamim to take action and accept responsibility.

He has been careful not to criticize Ash personally (his criticism of Ash was always grouped as him part of the top order) and even complimented his bowling in the 2nd ODI.

He has not picked specifically on Junaid and even Tamim and Siddons have backed Junaid to come out of his rut.

He has also stayed away from commenting on Mushy's keeping which is the main reason he only has 1 wicket in 3 matches.

In my opinion, he knows his teammates and who can be riled up to perform (TI, Rokibul), who are really trying and don't need the criticism personally now (JS, Mushy) and those who have ego issues and need to be handled carefully (Ash).

[kmasum]

Its easy to pick on Rakibul, who is really a new player and still struggling to establsih his position. We will not see any kind of negativity or resistence from younger players like rakibul. Surprisingly so far Tamim took it sportingly. Good for him and the team.

But things may changes very quickly if
a) Sakib fail to deliver (more often) as he expect from his teammates. Keep in mind, he was also equally responsible for 1st ODI defeat. or/and
b) Sakib is on record critisizing more senior players more often after each of their repeated failures. Based on our track record, repeated failure by senior players may not necessarily means drop from the team.

That is the time when it can backfire for team like us which consist of a bunch of under achievers. At that point Village Politics will start to grow like mushroom within the team. And you will see player revolt and drama like Pakistani team.

I m agree wit u on that
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[yaseer]

Its easy to pick on Rakibul, who is really a new player and still struggling to establsih his position. We will not see any kind of negativity or resistence from younger players like rakibul. Surprisingly so far Tamim took it sportingly. Good for him and the team.

But things may changes very quickly if
a) Sakib fail to deliver (more often) as he expect from his teammates. Keep in mind, he was also equally responsible for 1st ODI defeat. or/and
b) Sakib is on record critisizing more senior players more often after each of their repeated failures. Based on our track record, repeated failure by senior players may not necessarily means drop from the team.

That is the time when it can backfire for team like us which consist of a bunch of under achievers. At that point Village Politics will start to grow like mushroom within the team. And you will see player revolt and drama like Pakistani team.

Agreed, this is the reason why I said not to criticize with players name in public in my previous post.

For the first few instances, players going to take this sportingly as they are taking it now. But may not always. Do not forget, these criticisms with players name are done after winning the match. So, there is a good feeling under this criticism as well. If these are done after some poor show or losses, the scenario would not be the same.

But yes, Captain needs to be strong and decisive about his likings, dislikings and expectations. Sakib seems to have that, just need to control himself in front media and need to understand where to draw the line while talking to press.

[SS]

Ajke shuru hoibo village politics ...Morol mia ajke lathi dia dekai dibo Sakib re koto dane koto chal...

[napoleonIV]

Lets see what he has to say today after a dismissal that would put even Ashraful in to shame.

[t697318]

and yet againm the lower order comes to the rescue, what the hell is wrong with bangladesh top order?

[fais]

Lets see what he has to say today after a dismissal that would put even Ashraful in to shame.

ditto

[AsifTheManRahman]

Lets see what he has to say today after a dismissal that would put even Ashraful in to shame.
Yes, would be interesting to hear what he has to say for himself.

[Tigers_eye]

Yes, would be interesting to hear what he has to say for himself.
He took the blame. Didn't say it was a SIX or FOUR ball. Didn't say the ball swung. Didn't give excuse like the previous ones when Shamim asked him in the presentation ceremony.

You can't bring down the Giant this way.

[FagunerAgun]

Sakib criticized correctly and timely.

Young and senior players took it positively and reacted positively.

But only problem is with some fans, who could not take his criticism positively, instead, became the pioneers of village politics and negativity.

Nobody denies that Sakib, as a young captain, has an opportunity for impovement while talking with the press. Give him some time to mature. He is not the 'captain' yet.

[AsifTheManRahman]

He took the blame. Didn't say it was a SIX or FOUR ball. Didn't say the ball swung. Didn't give excuse like the previous ones when Shamim asked him in the presentation ceremony.

You can't bring down the Giant this way.
Good good. It's good to know we now have two people capable of leading the team alternately when even a year or so ago we had none. The idea of two co-captains may not be so bad after all. Not saying we should definitely take that route, but it could be an option.

[revolver]

todays batting from tail was good but the top order horrible apart from ROK

[AsifTheManRahman]

Sakib criticized correctly and timely.

Young and senior players took it positively and reacted positively.

But only problem is with some fans, who could not take his criticism positively, instead, became the pioneers of village politics and negativity.

Nobody denies that Sakib, as a young captain, has an opportunity for impovement while talking with the press. Give him some time to mature. He is not 'captain' yet.
Finally, we seem to have a bunch of players who are really willing to go that extra mile to win. Shak, Tamim, Rock and even some of the lower order batters have shown quite a bit of maturity in terms of approach, so as long as they can translate that to performance, we should be able to do good things. Compare that to the kind of bull crap Ash and his fellow idiot would churn out back in the days (you know who I'm talking about).

As for fans who admonish Shakib's attitude, well, this is professional sport, not a family gathering in the backyard. As long as Shak knows when to talk and how to talk and doesn't overdo it, he'll be fine. If a non-performer takes it otherwise, then he's probably not fit to play.

[FagunerAgun]

Finally, we seem to have a bunch of players who are really willing to go that extra mile to win. Shak, Tamim, Rock and even some of the lower order batters have shown quite a bit of maturity in terms of approach, so as long as they can translate that to performance, we should be able to do good things. Compare that to the kind of bull crap Ash and his fellow idiot would churn out back in the days (you know who I'm talking about).

As for fans who admonish Shakib's attitude, well, this is professional sport, not a family gathering in the backyard. As long as Shak knows when to talk and how to talk and doesn't overdo it, he'll be fine. If a non-performer takes it otherwise, then he's probably not fit to play.
They like Eid bonuses instead of 'bi-weekly pay cheques'.:-D