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M.H.Rubel
November 4, 2009, 12:58 AM
Need the solution of opening batting pair.Desperately need a partner for TAMIM in ODI opening.Who got the highest potential?

Zeeshan
November 4, 2009, 01:03 AM
Mushfiq. He can be both stable and aggressive.

M.H.Rubel
November 4, 2009, 01:16 AM
Mushfiq. He can be both stable and aggressive.

oh sorry i forgt abouy MUSHY

Gowza
November 4, 2009, 01:50 AM
i'd say imrul, nazmus, aftab and kapali should be at the top of the list. SN is the fall back guy imo. imrul has performed domestically so give him a good number of games to see whether he can score. nazmus i've always thought was a bit hard done by, he's consistent in all formats domestically and is also handy with the ball. aftab imo is on the list but needs to prove that he can play big innings before being brought back to the national team. kapali needs to score some domestic runs to show he's learnt something over the last few years of being out of the national team. mushy can open against teams with weaker pace attacks, i'm not sure he's ready to do it consistently againsts quality pace attacks (although who is? right).

auntu
November 4, 2009, 01:59 AM
Big Z. Reality, we don't have any better option.

yaseer
November 4, 2009, 01:59 AM
Imrul, Zunaed, SN, Aftab, Nafis Iqbal - they have the edge in experience. But all have prove themselves in domectics and "A" team.

Don't consider Kapali as an opener.
Nazimuddin is not an answer in ODI.

Imteaz
November 4, 2009, 02:40 AM
Confused. I think no one. Someone has to prove it at first.

Shaan
November 4, 2009, 03:12 AM
Imrul could do much better than Junaed, could be good thing left right combination. Shariar Nafees other option, at least he could do some big score if he settle down there unlike Junaed. So, my point is that Junade should be taken off from the opening slot.

fais
November 4, 2009, 06:06 AM
Big Z. Reality, we don't have any better option.

thats BS rlly. how cud we not have a better option than somebody who consistently scores 9-15. even a full time bowler cud manage Junaid's average if he was put in as an opening batsman.

M.H.Rubel
November 4, 2009, 06:08 AM
SN 9 Vote already?
NI 7 !
Junaid 6
Imrul 5 votes so far?
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WarWolf
November 4, 2009, 06:26 AM
Big Z. Reality, we don't have any better option.

I doubt. He will be a useful player inshallah, but won't be able to keep his place for long time. He has severe problems with his temperament and is not habituated in scoring big runs. Even in domestic cricket he is not well known for big scores. We need two good openers who can score big regularly. Tamim is going to be one of them inshallah. But the other place is matter of real worry.

beshideshi
November 4, 2009, 06:33 AM
Once back from the ban, I am sure SN will get a shot at it. He is one of the more complete batsman in BD. He has shown his ability against good bowling attack, also I dont know how many of us watched it, but SN's innings for ICL BD against ICL India was breath taking. He single handedly won the game for us. If he is able to translate that sort of form, I think he will remain uncontested

Naimul_Hd
November 4, 2009, 06:46 AM
Tamim and S.Nafees is my dream opening pair. cant wait to see them playing all together.

Yameen
November 4, 2009, 06:51 AM
Mushfiq. He can be both stable and aggressive.

Thats a good logic and quite like the idea however I would like to see him at number 3 to utilize that stability and endure the bulk of the overs with a strike rate of 75+ and hitting out at the end

M.H.Rubel
November 4, 2009, 07:26 AM
After a big failure in this Zimbabwe series still junaid in no 2 position after SN It is quiet interesting.
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auntu
November 4, 2009, 07:39 AM
I doubt. He will be a useful player inshallah, but won't be able to keep his place for long time. He has severe problems with his temperament and is not habituated in scoring big runs. Even in domestic cricket he is not well known for big scores. We need two good openers who can score big regularly. Tamim is going to be one of them inshallah. But the other place is matter of real worry.
Welcome back Sadi bhai. :)

Where have you been?! Nepal?

Regarding big Z, I'm right ;)

Roni_uk
November 4, 2009, 08:16 AM
Rakibul

Nafi
November 4, 2009, 09:26 AM
I would favour Junaid over SN, simply because Junaid has a much better ability playing against swinging deliveries, these days Junaid rarely gets out by technical errors against full deliveries, where as SN would regurlarly get beaten by swinging full balls.

Junaid also packs much more power.

meazz1
November 4, 2009, 09:28 AM
I would say give Mushy a shot, he is a capable candidate. He will probably need some getting used to first.

BangladeshFan
November 4, 2009, 09:59 AM
I would favor junaid over SN, but for test matches SN may probably get the nod.

Aftab and Nazim can slot in as well but both have to perform to a standard in local cricket.

Tigers_eye
November 4, 2009, 10:07 AM
Think before vote:
HHS. Those who can't bat between 3 and 7, we expect them to open for our national team????

What are we smoking here? Or Our standard is so low that we have to resort to this sort of madness?

M.H.Rubel
November 4, 2009, 10:16 AM
Most of the people r voting for SN but it is interesting that probably SN himself now do not think himself as an onener?
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nadim 98
November 4, 2009, 10:20 AM
Kuba Shamsu :)

magic boy
November 4, 2009, 11:44 AM
Shahreer Nafees proved a lot regarding his position. For some reason He is better than Tamim! We should think about test too, shouldn't we? :)

Rabz
November 4, 2009, 12:40 PM
Imrul should get a chance, imo.
He's been knocking on the door lately and since Zunaed has failed to impress, it should be Imrul's chance to have a go.

In test, i would not mind giving the Iqbal brothers a go.

Tiger444
November 4, 2009, 12:41 PM
Okay well let's look at some qualifying openers

Shahriar Nafees's average is about a 52 against minnows..he compiled 1444 runs in 33 matches..that is very good but against the top 8 teams he has only 2 50's out of 29 matches against the top 8 with an average of only a 16.62 in 29 matches compiling 482 runs..people just see that average of 33 and just say wow he has to be there instead of big Z but in reality who wants an opener who averages so low against top 8 teams even though playing a good # of matches

Zunaed Siddique- His average is only 19 compiling 236 runs in 13 matches against minnows which is way below Nafees but lets look at his performance against top 8 teams..230 runs in 15 matches at an average of 15.3..which is pretty similar to Nafees

Aftab Ahmed- 1050 runs in 36 matches at an average of 29 against minnows which is much lower then Nafees..now let's look at the top 8 average..he has 808 runs in 44 matches at an average of 18.36

So when we look at everything and Big Z obviously looks the worst against minnows but when you look at them against top 8 teams they all can't even break an average of a 20 which is terrible..in my opinion i would give naeem a go at opener..he hasn't been given enough oppurtunities and he looks like a guy who can hit and give a fiery start while tamim just plays his style..

Fazal
November 4, 2009, 03:29 PM
Short term, it have to be SN or may be NI

Long terms who knows? Kayes, Nazimuddin, Sadat, Rony or some new studd...

Howver I don't believe Aftab or Kapali is either short or long term solution.

I need to see more of Ayub, Shamsur, Naeem tried as opener in local league before predicting their ceiling as an opener.

Kind of giving up hope on Junaid as opener.

AsifTheManRahman
November 4, 2009, 03:32 PM
I voted for everyone (because I can) except Aftab. Fazlami kore holeo Aftab ke vote dibo na.

nycpro96
November 4, 2009, 03:48 PM
I want to see Junaid there. Hope he improves a little. He needs to learn to play a long innings.

sbsash
November 4, 2009, 06:22 PM
lets give Naeem a chance to open...

Timtim
November 4, 2009, 07:24 PM
^^^^^ this guy :d

FagunerAgun
November 4, 2009, 07:48 PM
I think SN is better poised to come back to this position.
But my only concern is he is very good with minows, not that good with his elder brothers.

FagunerAgun
November 4, 2009, 07:50 PM
lets give Naeem a chance to open...
I will give him a chance.

kalpurush
November 4, 2009, 08:21 PM
I want to see Junaid there. Hope he improves a little. He needs to learn to play a long innings.
Indeed. Coach needs to help him out ...

WarWolf
November 5, 2009, 01:48 PM
Welcome back Sadi bhai. :)

Where have you been?! Nepal?

Regarding big Z, I'm right ;)

Still believing that you are right? He is becoming an Ash. We don't need any top potential failure like him any more. We need applications like Nayeem....

Dhakablues
November 5, 2009, 02:55 PM
Shahrier Nafees, hands down. Kapali/Aftab hasnt done anything yet but do have the potential.. But neither of them are Openers. Here is the equation:

Which Opener is pefroming in the Domestic League = Shahrier Nafis
+
Who has the best statistics/experience amongst all openers of Today and the Past = Shahrier Nafis

+
Who is the single most major failure for current the National Team = Junaed Siddique

=
Shahrier Nafees comes back as the opening partner for Tamim Iqbal

Shaan
November 5, 2009, 03:35 PM
Ash has to be rested, ALok/Aftab can come in. if Ash can get million chances and score a beautiful century once in a million years than whats wrong with Alok or Aftab? I don't think they will need much more time to hit a ton or two like Ash once in a million years, even they can score more centuries than Ash if they get as much chances on a stretch as Ash got. We don't need to get emotional here for Ash that how he saved our butt in some occasion and played big knocks, we do appreciate and will appreciate that kind of performance, but when the man is giving his wicket same way over and over in every matches and scoring more zeros and not performing, so why should we stick with him, then we should give someone else chances who can perform better than earning zeros and throwing away wicket same way over and over.

cricket_king
November 5, 2009, 06:58 PM
lets give Naeem a chance to open...

Naeem is a big NO. He has all the makings of a good middle order batsman. Obviously that became more prevalent after yesterday, so I don't blame you for suggesting he opens. Anyway, he seems to be more of a hard working middle order batsman, as well as a cool-headed finisher. He and Mahmudullah are very similar, with Mahmudullah slightly more aggressive from the start. They should stay down the order.

Eshen
November 5, 2009, 07:22 PM
I would favour Junaid over SN, simply because Junaid has a much better ability playing against swinging deliveries, these days Junaid rarely gets out by technical errors against full deliveries, where as SN would regurlarly get beaten by swinging full balls.

Junaid also packs much more power.

So, you don't consider inability to play shots along the ground or inability to find gaps as technical deficiencies ?!!!

Zunaed is a talented batsman, no doubt. I also admire his hitting ability. But the guy got few big issues to work out before he can find consistency even at club level. Till then, he should stay out of the national team.

I don't want to see SN back as an opener either. He made a smart decision to move down a place, I would suggest him to move down another place. But he should be back in the team at either #3 or #4 slot for the next series against India and Sri Lanka, especially after watching how horrible our current top four batsmen have become.

For the next series, imo, either Imrul or Aftab should be given a try as an opener, based on who does better in the ongoing DPL.

Nafi
November 5, 2009, 08:11 PM
So, you don't consider inability to play shots along the ground or inability to find gaps as technical deficiencies ?!!!


No its called poor shot selection.

But then again, you are correct in saying that Junaid isnt a natural driver of the ball, and seems more like a pinch hitter, with his frequent aerial shots, but still Im correct, because his poor shot selection is due to the his technical defficiency.

Nafi
November 5, 2009, 08:21 PM
Naeem is a big NO. He has all the makings of a good middle order batsman. Obviously that became more prevalent after yesterday,

He's a finisher. So I say he still belongs in the late-middle order playing a Symonds like role, I mean just look at the number of not-outs he has.

Eshen
November 5, 2009, 08:40 PM
No its called poor shot selection.

But then again, you are correct in saying that Junaid isnt a natural driver of the ball, and seems more like a pinch hitter, with his frequent aerial shots, but still Im correct, because his poor shot selection is due to the his technical defficiency.
Not sure what you mean by poor shot selection. It's not like he tries to pull a delivery that's there to be driven or vice-versa. Problem is whenever he drives or pulls, he always does it upishly. It does not look like a matter of choice for him, looks more like matter of lack of control.

Same with his shot placement - more often than not, he shows lack of control to place shots in gaps.

M.H.Rubel
November 18, 2009, 08:17 PM
I did not mention the name of Rony here and he is doing well?
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cricket_king
November 19, 2009, 01:20 AM
He's a finisher. So I say he still belongs in the late-middle order playing a Symonds like role, I mean just look at the number of not-outs he has.

Yes, finisher, therefore he should stay in the middle-order. I'm just surprised that after one innings, which illustrates all the makings of a good-middle order batsman and finisher, people have come to the conclusion that he should be tried as an opener.