The players who can regain or gain their position in bd team 4 the next series

[JABIR_BD]

Nw Zim tour is over.we won 4-1.bt still we have sme problme.specialy in opening,no 3 and pace atack.so we need sme changes.so the players who can play well in DPL Would be under consideration.player like SN,AK,A Ahmed,Shuvo,Marshal r doing well.So those players make a demand 4 the N Team.Give your opinion,who should be gain or regain position 4 the next series
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[auntu]

Same team.

[zman]

So these gays make a demand 4 the N Team.Give your opinion,who should be gain or regain position 4 the next series

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I know it was a typo and I'm sorry I just cudn't help it.
Based on SN's recent performance in DPL, hez most likely to make it back in the national team.

[M.H.Rubel]

My chances list according to need of the team:
1)S Nafees
2)Kapali
3)S.Rasel,Farhad Reza
3)Aftab,IMRUL KAYES
4)Dhiman,Nazimuddin
5)Tapash,Faisal Dickens.
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[Only1raz]

For the next series, the ideal team/squad that I would love to see

1.Tamim Iqbal
2.Shahriar Nafees
3.Naeem Islam
4.Raqibul Hasan
5.Shakib Al Hasan
6.Alok Kapali
7.Mushfiqur Rahim
8.Mashrafe Mortaza
9.Abdur Razzak
10.Nazmul Hossain

Reserves
11.Mohammad Ashraful
12.Aftab Ahmed
13.Mahmudullah Riyad
14.Suhrawadi Shuvo
15.Farhad Reza
16.Syed Rasel

[_Rafi_]

Alok Kapali needs to perform with bat if he wants to come back in NT. So far his batting is not impressive.
SN is doing ok to make him real contender to come back.
Aftab is also doing well but I dont think he is currently needed in 50 overs. In t20 he is an automatic choice.

[Tokai]

There is a ol' ol' saying you know, don't break the winning combination. Ash is proven to lay low for most of the time and then come back big against anyone anytime. I'm OK with that. The only other position that needs a look is opening. Zunaed has never done anything really to justify his presence. Beside that, keep the winning combination.

[shajib14]

My playing 11 would be-

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Shahriar Nafees
3. Naeem Islam
4. Roqibul Hasan
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Marshall Ayub/Alok Kapali
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Mahmudullah Riyad
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10.Abdur Razzak
11.Syed Rasel/Nazmul Hossain

[Jesus87]

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. S. Nafees
3. Rokibul
4. Mushfiq
5. Shakib
6. Mahmudullah
7. Naem
8. Dhiman Ghosh ( we need a proper wicket keeper that actually catches the ball not stare at it) (Yes I am talking a Mushfiq! Duh!)
9. Mash
10. Razzak
11. Nazmul

12) Enam Jnr
13) Rubel Hossain
14) Rony Talukdar
15) Alok Kapali

[zainab]

They should have Dhiman Ghosh as wicketkeeper in ODIs and 20/20s. I feel that SN is a choice for Tests and ODIs and Aftab for 20/20s, Also Alok should be given a chance and nurtured. Like in SL, Mushy should only be wicketkeeper for Tests.

[Tiger Manc]

My team would be

1) Tamim Iqbal
2) Shahriar Nafees
3) Naeem Islam
4) Raqibul Hasan
5) Shakibul Hasan
6) Mohammed Ashraful
7) Mushfiqur Rahim
8) Mahmudullah
9) Mashrafe Mortaza
10) Abdur Razzak
11) Nazmul Hossain

Depending on performances I would replace:

Dhiman Ghosh with Mushfiqur Rahim for the wicketkeeping.

Syed Rasel with Nazmul Hossain as the 2 fast bowler.

Enamul Haque Jnr with Nazmul Hossain on spin-friendly pitches.

Dhiman Ghosh instead of Shahriar Nafees for the No 2 position.

[Tiger Manc]

Alok Kapali needs to perform with bat if he wants to come back in NT. So far his batting is not impressive.
SN is doing ok to make him real contender to come back.
Aftab is also doing well but I dont think he is currently needed in 50 overs. In t20 he is an automatic choice.

Spot on! He would be ideal for 20/20. Not needed for odi.

[Rizvi]

Guys...i'm sure it exists somewhere but ...What's our next series? I'm assuming the tri-series is next....when does that start? and what immediately follows?

thanks for the help!

[AsifTheManRahman]

Guys...i'm sure it exists somewhere but ...What's our next series? I'm assuming the tri-series is next....when does that start? and what immediately follows?

thanks for the help!
Jan, followed by England's tour of Bangladesh in Feb-March.

[Tiger Manc]

They should have Dhiman Ghosh as wicketkeeper in ODIs and 20/20s. I feel that SN is a choice for Tests and ODIs and Aftab for 20/20s, Also Alok should be given a chance and nurtured. Like in SL, Mushy should only be wicketkeeper for Tests.

I was wondering other than Mushfiqur Rahim who are the best wicketkeepers that Bangladesh have?

Dhiman Ghosh? Who else?

[Rizvi]

Jan, followed by England's tour of Bangladesh in Feb-March.

thanks bro...damn 2 month delay...but it'll be good to see a good dose of these guys in DPL...

Has there been any commitments to broadcasting DPL games?

[AsifTheManRahman]

I'm really looking forward to the next rounds of DPL matches. With the ICLers and the national teamers back, things are heating up and it may very well be World War V.

[fais]

My line-up to send the Sri Lankans and Indians back home crying:

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Mushfiqur Rahim
3. Marshall Ayub/Faisal Hossain
4. Mohammad Ashraful
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Roqibul Hasan (bring in earlier if early batting collapse)
7. Naeem Islam
8. Mahmudullah Riyad/Shuvo
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10.Abdur Razzak
11.Nazmul Hossain

[Tigers_eye]

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. S. Nafees
3. Rokibul
4. Mushfiq
5. Shakib
6. Mahmudullah
7. Naem
8. Dhiman Ghosh
9. Mash
10. Razzak
11. Nazmul

This is the best team for now. My reserves are a little different. Rasel if fit. Imrul, Junaed, Shuvo.

[Rizvi]

Who isn't Mushy considered an option @ no. 3? I believe he's well suited there...b4 Rock...
I like the current Squad..except flip Mushy with Ash in lineup..

[Ajfar]

we probably shouldn't mess around with the combination as much, but the way i see it, rajib has got to go, mash comes in for him hopefully. i really feel for rubel, the selectors are completely screwing up his career. they really need to figure something out for him. mushy doesn't deserve to be the keeper, in test or ODI, but his batting seems to be clicking in, so we can definitely use him as a middle order batsman. i would like to see dhiman as our keeper but he has to do something with the bat before he gets a spot in the national team. aftab, kapali, hasn't done much to get a spot back yet, beside where are we going to put them. ash has got to go. nayeem deserves to bat up the order. looks like siddon has things to figure out before the tri series, and i wish him good luck

[revolver]

i would like the same team but except juanid

[Beamer]

The upcoming DPL is very important for Zunaid, Ash and Rock, three most underachieving player from the recently concluded series. If they do well, they should be given the first chance back, since they have been with the team. However, they will face tough competition in domestic league, because we have a number of players trying to get their jobs back. So, its imperative that they play well to stave of elimination. So, among top six, those three are most vulnerable. Mushy needs to work and fix his wkt keeping inconsistencies. Such let offs might not matter much against Zim, but you let off Tendulkar when he is in single digits, the outcome will not be very rosy for us. Riyad and Naeem- we will continue to see both of them in the one day team. Naeem has definitely showed us his mettle. He has done it in all levels of cricket. He can earn a promotion up the order. So, I will give this crew all the chance to keep the places first, but ultimately its up to them to hold on to their spots. Inability to perform in the DPL for the under performing may see them out of it as we have many players ( established or on the brink ) vying for a job. This is an exciting moment for our cricket.

[magic boy]

will Regain : Mashrafee,Syed Rasel, Rajib,

may regain: Nafees ,Alok,

[revolver]

IS ROK underachiveing?

[Raynman]

The first half of 2009 seems to be format switch galore. I hope we plan out well with the teams in all 3 formats in mind and don't get set on the same 11 playing all formats.

[Beamer]

IS ROK underachiveing?

Yes. He needs to be more sure of himself. Assertive in his play. Right now he is lacking that.

[Tokai]

I'm surprised to see that no one mentioned Tushar Imran ever.

He has been a consistent performer, but without a chance here and a half chance there, he was never considered for national team. I think he is one person worth trying.

[revolver]

I'm surprised to see that no one mentioned Tushar Imran ever.

He has been a consistent performer, but without a chance here and a half chance there, he was never considered for national team. I think he is one person worth trying.

yhh i feel sad for him,...

[magic boy]

Tushar Imran,Imrul Kayes,Mehrab Jnr,Nafees Iqbal =all are somewhat bit nervous or unlucky in international arena.

[Fazal]

So what kind of permormance are you looking from Zunaid, Ash and Rock in DPL before they get their second chance?

Ave of 20+, 30+, 40+, 50+?
1 Century, 2 Century, 3 century?

top 5 batsman in total run scored, averege? Top 10? Top 20?

I need to know forehand the criteria before people floating around those ideas and and try to adjust criteria to accomodate a particular player.

This question is not necesarily to Beamer, but all my fellow friends who is toying with this DPL performance idea.

[tonoy]

I propose that they atleast have a batting average of 30 with one or two match winning 50+ scores. Now that should not be too much to ask from a national team member.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Ideally, one would have to average above 50 with a few centuries in domestic leagues to be able to make it to the international side. Unfortunately, that might be wishful thinking when it comes to our players.

[Fazal]

I am throwing another question, here.

For example if Junaid,Ash, Rokibul meet your threshold ( 30+ average two match winning 50+ as Tonoy mentioned or 50+ as ATMR said for example), How much better a current non-national player need to do to replace Junaid/Ash/Rokibul?

Again I would like BCB and fans (in this case) to make a well defined criteria, so that every body understand what a particular player need to do to make it to the national team.

Again this question is for people who think current DPL performance should be used to select/fill up certain postion in our team. ( Juniad/Ash/Rokib as suggested by Beamer)

[Murad]

Jan, followed by England's tour of Bangladesh in Feb-March.

We have a tour to NZ right after the India Test series in late january. There will be 1 Test, 3 ODIs and 1 T20.

England tour starts on 28th February.

[Fazal]

Tushar Imran,Imrul Kayes,Mehrab Jnr,Nafees Iqbal =all are somewhat bit nervous or unlucky in international arena.

I also feel the same way.

Tushar Imran: TI got some chances here and there but failed to capitalize it. Also he didn;t get chances like some of the other deadwoods who somehow can manage to stay year after year.

Imrul Kayes: I think he will again get chance. This is a perfecr opportunity for him, only if he can score big in DPL and make a solid case.

Mehrab: Kind of sad how they brought back (for what ever reason) and when he performed they kind of forgot about him for what ever reason. hard to explain why they brought him in the first place and why they didn;pt stick with him long enough.

NI: He had some glory moments, but faded at wrong time and and was burried under Tamim, SN and Junaid.

[Wakidul]

IS ROK underachiveing?

The problem with rock is not his composure or the way he plays but he simply needs a few centureis under his belt to gain confidence.

[tonoy]

Unfortunately fazal, I think it is a common notion for both the fans and selectors that a current non-national player would not be able to replace any non performing player(ash, junaid, etc), if the current non performers maintains a decent performance(30+ average with one or two 50+ score). For you see, It is not easy make changes for a winning team no matter how bad a certain player performs. So the only way for these non-national player to be in the contention for the current team is if these non-performer maintain their poor performance at the domestic level.

So for example, if at the end of the tournament we have a player like SN with a batting average of 40+ with one century and couple of half centuries, and Junaid with with a batting average of 32 and two half centuries, then people(both fans and selectors) would not even consider the achievements of SN. Why? Because changes to a winning combination is unheard of. Plus, many moral issues(ICL betrayal, etc). Let's also not forget the talent issue, there is a common notion that Ash and Junaid are currently unsurmountable in terms of "talent". And there is actually no known standard benchmark for "talent". It is either you have it or you don't. Sounds unfair?

[Beamer]

Fazal

Well, the standard barometer is obviously runs, followed by different set of indicators for specific positions. For example, 30 avg for an opener and no.4 can't be equated as same, if the openers SR. is below a no.4's SR. As an opener, his job in hand is not only to score runs, but score at a good rate and carry on if possible. A no.4 should avg more than an opener, as he should have a better chance of staying not out, but I will not look at his SR and hold that against him if he lags behind an openers. So, yea, Runs #1, Avg. and SR. - a respective #2, 3, depending on the position. I will have to discriminate. Better way to gauge may be if we can have a chart of each position, players playing those positions, and compare the stats. In the end, the trio that I have mentioned, are most in need of a good showing, as they face the stiffest of challenges. However, they should not be side stepped if somebody is doing slightly better than them. Ideally, as Asif has mentioned, an Intl player, should dominate the domestic scene by a huge margin. We have yet to see that happen in our culture.

[AsifTheManRahman]

I am throughing another question, here.

For example Junaid,Ash, Rokibul meet you threshold ( 30+ average two match winning 50+ as Tonoy mentioned or 50+ as ATMR said for example), How much better a current non-national player need to do to replace Junaid/Ash/Rokibul?

Again I would like BCB and fans (in this case) to make a well defined criteria, so that every body understand what a particular player need to do to make it to the national team.

Again this question is for people who think current DPL performance should be used to select/fill up certain postion in our team. ( Juniad/Ash/Rokib as suggested by Beamer)
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This is an interesting question and IMO, there is no definite framework that you can plug players' performances into and numerically justify their inclusion in the national team: especially not in Bangladesh given the humongous gap in quality between domestic and international cricket. For instance, I don't necessarily think that the DPL should be the only means of finding replacements for national team spots. At the same time, it could be for certain players and it all depends on the individual.

The reason the BCB pays its selectors a hefty amount of money (in Bangladeshi standards) is so that they can use their brains and not just go by numbers. It's all about how comfortable a player is feeling scoring runs and taking wickets. Is he compact, fluent and confident in his approach? If he's not technically solvent, how does he overcome his deficiencies to keep performing? As an example, if he tends to play across the line too much, how does he negotiate fast bowlers who pitch it up and bring it into him? If he's getting batsmen out caught behind, is it because of the tendency of our batsmen to poke at everything outside off or is he getting some genuine movement off the pitch/in the air and using his brain to combine that with the right length as well?

These are some of the questions that might give one an idea as to whether a prolific domestic performer will likely succeed in international cricket and whether the DPL is a sufficient indicator of his abilities or he needs to be tested in the NCL as well. As a general rule of thumb and at this stage in our cricket, frankly, I wouldn't consider anyone who has performed any less than prolifically in domestic leagues for the national team.

So if Ash scored at an average of 50 and looked in good touch (good enough to succeed in ODIs), I wouldn't replace him with any X or Y with an average of 60 in the DPL yet, because we need a core group of cricketers to play together at least until the world cup and I'd prefer getting the job done with current players/players with international experience.

While we're at it, check out my zero-response thread (http://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/showthread.php?t=31257) on selection in international cricket. That's how selection should be done.

[Beamer]

Good thoughts Asif. Yes, a selector has to be a scout, not just stats reader. A domestic player should only be considered if he has mind numbing stats compared to an intl in a specific position, a position of need. The reason this DPL is important because of a high number of current, and ex intl players dueling it out. There are a lot of younger ex- intl players vying to get their places back. Not only that, we have a lot of upcoming players who are also knocking on the door ( Ayub, Shuvo, Shamsur etc ). So, the competition is exciting...

[Fazal]

Thanks Tonoy, Beamer, ATMR.

Beamer,
Yes you have a good point that different postion should have different criteria and threshold and we shouldn't compare apples with oranges ( SN vs Ash for example). However I guess we both agree, still it would be nice to know the criteria (or a famework criteria) in advance.

ATRM/Tonoy,

In you your first part (both of you), I am geeting a feeling, that you are discounting DPL result with other charaeceristic that can be hard to measure, not recored in scorecards and kind of subjective in nature. Specially for the fans who are not watching the game. That tells me you do not trust on local scores that much.

In you second part, I kind of agree that average of 50+ (as ATMR suggested) by Ash/Juniad/Rokibul that may be they still have the form and may get 2nd chance automatic.

Howeve if the threashold is 30+, as Tonoy said, I kind of hesitent to give them 2nd chance without a fight from others.

[AsifTheManRahman]

That lets me you do not trust on local scores that much.
That's correct. I would if we were South Africa.

Two examples:

1. Nannu, who beat the living hell out of bowlers in domestic games, was an awful performer in ODIs. When he finally blossomed with the bat in the '99 world cup, he was well into his thirties and fresh off scoring a thousand runs in a single NCL tournament at an average > 50.

2. Dickens was also beating up local bowlers until he made his debut, where he looked clueless, worse than a tail-ender.

But that isn't to say everyone scoring runs in domestic competitions is an idiot; and that's where the selectors come in with their list of rather abstract criteria.

[Fazal]

ATMR

Looks like for you, the bottom line about DPL is: its doesn't matter much who does what. In other words, you bacially don't believe in the concept that "Ash, Junaid, Rokibul need to perform (??) to get their next chance in the team" as Beamer and others suggested.

Thats fine with me. I am just making sure what is your stand in DPL performace and how you think we should evaluate players to replace/re-establish under performed national players.

btw I think your examples are kind of outdated and may not reppresent current situation. Nanno used to play when British used to rule Inidan sub-continent . And Dickens was horrible indeed, but it was few years back I guess. Looks like not only now he can score in local league, he can also score against current ZIM team, which Ash/Junaid/Rokibul kind of failed in a consistent basis.

[Beamer]

I'm really looking forward to the next rounds of DPL matches. With the ICLers and the national teamers back, things are heating up and it may very well be World War V.

Fazal.

I don't think Asif thinks DPL is unimportant.

We can prepare a chart with players from each team based upon each position. Openers, no. 3, no. 4 . so on and so forth. It can be broken down with Runs, Avg, SR, balls faced, 4's, 6's, ducks, not outs, and no. of innings. Continue it with each number in the batting order ( from 1 to 7 ). Then, at the end we can see who did what. I think that will give us an excellent idea going into Tri-series..

[fais]

to be honest, if we are to have any chance of winning lets hope Tendulkar decides to rest for the tri-series

[AsifTheManRahman]

ATMR

Looks like for you, the bottom line about DPL is: its doesn't matter much who does what. In other words, you bacially don't believe in the concept that "Ash, Junaid, Rokibul need to perform (??) to get their next chance in the team" as Beamer and others suggested.

That's not entirely true. There's certainly value to scoring in domestic competitions and I expect national teamers to do so. All I'm saying, though, is that we should observe any newcomers keenly to make sure they have the goods to be successful in international cricket. For example, if player A and player B both score at 50 an inning throughout the DPL, a good selector would be able to predict who would be a better pick just through observing the way they approach their batting. There's a difference between Dickens scoring at 50 back in 2004 and someone of Shakib's calibre and Dickens' age scoring at 50 back then and I'd expect a good selector to be able to tell the difference. Numbers are good to have, but given the quality of our domestic cricket, they are not all that should be considered. Visuals matter too.

Of course, no one is God but God himself and selectors can be wrong, but then that's part of life. They can always move to solution B if solution A doesn't work out in the long run.

I brought up the Nannu reference because there was a time when he was averaging 14 in the middle order when his teammates were averaging above 20, so even though it was in the times the British ruled, it wasn't necessarily a bad example.

As for Ash and Junayed, I don't think they are good examples of what I'm trying to say here because I want both of them out of the team for the next series unless they go nuts in the very few opportunities they will get between now and then. So if they totally flop in the domestic games, they are out as far as I'm concerned. Rok, on the other hand, is doing alright in my eyes and a decent DPL performance will help his cause as his position in the team isn't sealed yet. So as you can see, it really varies from individual to individual.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Fazal.

I don't think Asif thinks DPL is unimportant.

You got that right, bhai shaheb.

[Tigers_eye]

to be honest, if we are to have any chance of winning lets hope Tendulkar decides to rest for the tri-series
Read Baundale's signature. :head:

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/247464.html

[AsifTheManRahman]

to be honest, if we are to have any chance of winning lets hope Tendulkar decides to rest for the tri-series
Talukdar who?

[One World]

SN.

[fais]

Talukdar who?

Talukdar or not, he is the only batsman that rlly worries me; a player that can single handedly beat any team in the world on a unhumanlike consistency.

[mona]

Talukdar or not, he is the only batsman that rlly worries me; a player that can single handedly beat any team in the world on a unhumanlike consistency.

Rony Talukdar worries you? Maybe in a few years who knows, but he's no threat at the moment matey. If you're talking about Tendulkar.. didn't India still lose by 3 runs despite his unhumanlike 175? Clearly shows that single-handed heroics never work without at least a little bit of team effort as well.

[Tigers_eye]

Rony Talukdar worries you? Maybe in a few years who knows, but he's no threat at the moment matey. If you're talking about Tendulkar.. didn't India still lose by 3 runs despite his unhumanlike 175? Clearly shows that single-handed heroics never work without at least a little bit of team effort as well.
We need to raise the roof here. :notworthy:

[Timtim]

For the next series, the ideal team/squad that I would love to see

1.Tamim Iqbal
2.Shahriar Nafees
3.Naeem Islam
4.Raqibul Hasan
5.Shakib Al Hasan
6.Alok Kapali
7.Mushfiqur Rahim
8.Mashrafe Mortaza
9.Abdur Razzak
10.Nazmul Hossain

Reserves
11.Mohammad Ashraful
12.Aftab Ahmed
13.Mahmudullah Riyad
14.Suhrawadi Shuvo
15.Farhad Reza
16.Syed Rasel

I like that team, except I'd switch kapali with aftab, or may be roqibul with aftab if our middle order stops collapsing in every match.

[Rommel]

What do you all think of this lineup:

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Shahriar Nafees
3. Rakibul Hasan
4. Shakib Al Hasan
5. Mohammad Ashraful
6. Naeem Islam
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Mahmudullah Riyad
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Syed Rasel/Nazmul Hossain

Too early to bring Naeem into the #3 spot imo. Yes, he batted brilliantly in the last match, but keep in mind that was still his maiden ODI 50. Let him make some more runs at the #6 spot before moving him up further. That being said, he should not be batting anywhere below #7 as that is too low for a pure batsmen who can bowl a bit. I feel that Rakib is still a great fit for the #3 spot. He can really hold down anchor at one end and give stroke makers like Tamim, Shakib, and Ash good support. Also, he seems to have the patience to be able to bat through the entire innings.

Also, I don't feel that Ashraful should be dropped quite yet. He has shown some more signs of trying to be a responsible player and I feel that he will perform in the Tri-Series. I want to move him down to the #5 spot as he has had tons of success at that spot.

Finally, I feel that there will be a battle between Nazmul and Rasel for the final pacer spot. Rasel is proven and one of our most economical bowlers but he has been unfit due to injury for quite some time. Nazmul bowled pretty well in the Zimbabwe series so I feel that he has the slight advantage. Another option is to drop Riyad to make room for both Rasel and Nazmul. I feel the management should make this decision based on the pitch and the conditions. If its pacer-friendly, go with Mortaza, Nazmul, and Rasel and if its spinner friendly go with Riyad, Mortaza, and either Nazmul or Rasel.

Oh and btw, I put SN in the #2 spot for now but I won't lose hope in Junaid. I still feel Junaid is a very talented cricketer and once he learns to not to play every shot on the front foot, he will own that #2 spot. That being said, Junaid needs to play Domestic cricket to fix this issue.

[kalpurush]

:floor::floor:
I know it was a typo and I'm sorry I just cudn't help it.
Based on SN's recent performance in DPL, hez most likely to make it back in the national team.
In place of big Z?

Lately, Zunaid had good start, but failed to continue. He just needs some help from our coach to correct the probs he has. :)

[Dhrubo]

In place of big Z?

Lately, Zunaid had good start, but failed to continue. He just needs some help from our coach to correct the probs he has. :)
I noticed him doing that from the very beginning of his career (apart from that debut t20 match). He is in good touch, he just lacks the concentration. He is quite similar to ash.

[kalpurush]

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. S. Nafees
3. Rokibul
4. Mushfiq
5. Shakib
6. Mahmudullah
7. Naem
8. Dhiman Ghosh ( we need a proper wicket keeper that actually catches the ball not stare at it) (Yes I am talking a Mushfiq! Duh!)
9. Mash
10. Razzak
11. Nazmul

12) Enam Jnr
13) Rubel Hossain
14) Rony Talukdar
15) Alok Kapali

Liked your first 11 :)
This is the best team for now. My reserves are a little different. Rasel if fit. Imrul, Junaed, Shuvo.
Ash has no luck even to be a water boy?!!!:doh:

[M.H.Rubel]

For the next series, the ideal team/squad that I would love to see

1.Tamim Iqbal
2.Shahriar Nafees
3.Naeem Islam
4.Raqibul Hasan
5.Shakib Al Hasan
6.Alok Kapali
7.Mushfiqur Rahim
8.Mashrafe Mortaza
9.Abdur Razzak
10.Nazmul Hossain

Reserves
11.Mohammad Ashraful
12.Aftab Ahmed
13.Mahmudullah Riyad
14.Suhrawadi Shuvo
15.Farhad Reza
16.Syed Rasel

Well thought nice combination good team
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[JABIR_BD]

Any one send the stas of batsmans and bolwers in this recent Zim tour.
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[Ashraf-FTP]

Rock is too slow.. Mithun (or Dhiman) can be a fair keper and batsman.. AK and SN will reclaim..

so my team would be
Tame
SN
Aftab
Ice man
Ash
AK
Dhiman/mithun (wk)
Nayeem/riyadh
Mash
Raj
Rasel/Najmul (after his performance in this series.. he was by far our best seamer..)

according to pitch, Ak or 1 of the other spin AR's can come off to make space for another extra seamer, maybe Rubel or rasel/najmul..

but w/e it is, i just dont want to see the following players in the ODI first XI

big Z (too many technical faults, needs serious help)
Mushy (too crappy as wicketkeeper, can be used as an extra batsman though)
Rajib (too slow to be without constant line & length, needs help with yorkers & wicket to wicket bowling, or atleast good line and lenngth)

[wiseshah]

for ODI my team will be

tamim
shahriar nafees
rokibul
shakib
ashraful/kapali
mushfiq
mahmudullah
naeem
mashrafe
razzaq
najmul

reserve: rasel, kapali,aftab,shohrawardi shuvo

this is the Best and ideal team for BD. dont mind to see dhiman/mithun ali instead of mushfiq

[wiseshah]

for 20/20 my team will be


tamim
mithun ali
shahriar nafis/aftab
ashraful
kapali
shakib
mashrafe
naeem
mahmudullah
razzaq
rasel

reserve: najmul,najmus sadat, shohrawardi shuvo,najimuddin


no rokibul, no mushfiq for 20/20

[BANFAN]

for ODI my team will be

tamim
shahriar nafees
rokibul
shakib
ashraful
mushfiq
mahmudullah /kapali
naeem
mashrafe
razzaq
najmul

reserve: rasel, kapali,aftab,shohrawardi shuvo

this is the Best and ideal team for BD. dont mind to see dhiman/mithun ali instead of mushfiq

I would just go for one change. Rest looks ok to me. But I think the sellectors will bring Aftab back, though I don't want him. He wasn't doing anything good when he joined ICL and he hasn't done anything noticeable in ICL or post ICL domestic matches.

[godzilla]

There is a ol' ol' saying you know, don't break the winning combination. Ash is proven to lay low for most of the time and then come back big against anyone anytime. I'm OK with that. The only other position that needs a look is opening. Zunaed has never done anything really to justify his presence. Beside that, keep the winning combination.

Exactly, he does magic with the ball most of the time even though not as much with the bat that we all would love to see. And if nafees is doing well then junaide should be given a break and should be replaced by him

[Purbasha T]

Lol, Ashy-love is difficult to forget for some of us........











...... including me. :-p C'mon the additional Eids. :fire:

[Ashraf-FTP]

Lol, Ashy-love is difficult to forget for some of us........











...... including me. :-p C'mon the additional Eids. :fire:
Ash still plays the EID innings.. but how about Zunaid, not even EID.. and Ash has much more experience than any of the current players.. so shouldnt we try to kick out the players worse than Ash before thinking of kicking him out??

[Imteaz]

Mashrafe/Rasel will be added in place of any 2 pacers. Otherwise same team.

[BANFAN]

Ash still plays the EID innings.. but how about Zunaid, not even EID.. and Ash has much more experience than any of the current players.. so shouldnt we try to kick out the players worse than Ash before thinking of kicking him out??

That's what is rational thinking; you can't expect that when you are influenced by anger, hate, dislikes or bias. :)

[Fazal]

Ash still plays the EID innings.. but how about Zunaid, not even EID.. and Ash has much more experience than any of the current players.. so shouldnt we try to kick out the players worse than Ash before thinking of kicking him out??

Few points...

1. Junaid plays #2 slot (opener) and Ash plays #3 (middle) order. The skill sets required different. Juniad and Ashraful are not competing against each other, therefore comparing these two to justify why Ash should not be dropped is comparing apple and oranges. If both are not playing well both can be dropped.

2. Both are failing in their roles, One person;s failure cannot be justified for another person's failure.

3. With experience comes added responsibility and accountability. team expect more production and consistent production from more experienced players, however team can be more patients with newer players for their lack of experience.

4. Experience without a track record of constant improvement basically indicate that its time to cut loss and move on with other alternatives.

5. In #3 and #4 slots (and opening slots), we should not looks for eid innings i.e. once in a blue moon one good innings followed by a series of bad innings. These slots are players who have more consistent performance. That's how you stabilize your batting order

[al Furqaan]

What do you all think of this lineup:

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Shahriar Nafees
3. Rakibul Hasan
4. Shakib Al Hasan
5. Mohammad Ashraful
6. Naeem Islam
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Mahmudullah Riyad
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Syed Rasel/Nazmul Hossain

Too early to bring Naeem into the #3 spot imo. Yes, he batted brilliantly in the last match, but keep in mind that was still his maiden ODI 50. Let him make some more runs at the #6 spot before moving him up further. That being said, he should not be batting anywhere below #7 as that is too low for a pure batsmen who can bowl a bit. I feel that Rakib is still a great fit for the #3 spot. He can really hold down anchor at one end and give stroke makers like Tamim, Shakib, and Ash good support. Also, he seems to have the patience to be able to bat through the entire innings.

Also, I don't feel that Ashraful should be dropped quite yet. He has shown some more signs of trying to be a responsible player and I feel that he will perform in the Tri-Series. I want to move him down to the #5 spot as he has had tons of success at that spot.

Finally, I feel that there will be a battle between Nazmul and Rasel for the final pacer spot. Rasel is proven and one of our most economical bowlers but he has been unfit due to injury for quite some time. Nazmul bowled pretty well in the Zimbabwe series so I feel that he has the slight advantage. Another option is to drop Riyad to make room for both Rasel and Nazmul. I feel the management should make this decision based on the pitch and the conditions. If its pacer-friendly, go with Mortaza, Nazmul, and Rasel and if its spinner friendly go with Riyad, Mortaza, and either Nazmul or Rasel.

Oh and btw, I put SN in the #2 spot for now but I won't lose hope in Junaid. I still feel Junaid is a very talented cricketer and once he learns to not to play every shot on the front foot, he will own that #2 spot. That being said, Junaid needs to play Domestic cricket to fix this issue.

good lineup. we could even switch ash and rahim, depening on their relative forms. on seaming tracks we may need to drop riyad for rubel, and on turning tracks for enamul. not sure what riyad can offer coming down at number 8. i'd rather have a specialist bowler in his position.

[fais]

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Mushfiqur Rahim
3. Marshall Ayub
4. Shakib Al Hasan
5. Mohammad Ashraful
6. Naeem Islam
7. Rakibul Hasan
8. Shuvo
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Syed Rasel/Nazmul Hossain

[Fazal]

Aieee Hai....

You guys talked about Ashrful need to be 30+ and somebody need to be 50+ etc...

Bashar has a average of 70 and Ash's one is 25 I guess.

If the trend continue, are we going to see Bashar at #3 replacing Ashraful?:confused:

[M.H.Rubel]

I am confident about regaining of IMRUL,SN and SUHRAWRDY.
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[lasith]

This squad is in a winning period so why changes?

[zainab]

It seems that BD is playing non stop cricket from january to July next year. What happens after July?

Are there any more international matches? I cannot see any on the FTP. I guess they concentrate on domestic cricket.

[Fazal]

DPL is midway... enough sample size to touchbase where we stand so far.

So Tonoy, Beamer, ATMR and co. what you guys think so far?

Is Ashraful is passing your own grade? Is SN, Aftab oir Bashar making a case for comeback? Is Rony, Ayub or someoen new is making a good case for himself?

Or as Asfrful seems to failing your own threshold so far, thinking about lowering the bar further for him? :-D

[Gowza]

SN is defintely making a case to be brought in as the #3, rony i guess is making a case but we shouldn't get carried away imo, last season we had mithun and shamsur doing well and what have they done so far this season? as much as i'm tempted to give rony a chance i think it would be better to see whether he can perform domestically for a number of seasons first.

ashraful is ashraful, basically his spot is secure regardless so there isn't much point of discussing it, i don't know how he is averaging but i haven't heard much from him since that century so quite possibly he isn't making the grade.

aftab is doing ok but he suffers because he doesn't know how to play bigger innings, he's made quite a few pretty decent scores but hasn't been able to get any big ones so his average is still fairly low.

alok hasn't been perfoming since the t20 tourny, nothing else to say really.

btw what's up with shuvo? haven't heard anything of him since the t20 tourny, has he been playing matches? still someone to think about though.

subashis roy has been doing well, this is a bowler who should have been invested in similarly to rubel imo, perhaps the lack of investment by the selectors was a blessing and has moved him along his development in a better way, with the pacer issues that have been going on this is someone to keep an eye and possibly bring into the squad soon.

[minhaz]

The ideal team

tamim
s nafees
aftab
rokib
shakib
kapali
ashraful
mushfiq
masfrafe
razzak
nazmul

reserves

riyad
naem
rubel
junaed
enamul jr

this might be the world cup team