Provisional Squad for the Tri-series

[Eshen]

BCB picks 4 ex-rebels for tri-nation series

Dhaka, Dec 12 (bdnews24.com) - BCB has picked four of Bangladesh's top cricketers, once banned from the national game for joining the lucrative but unauthorised Indian Cricket League, for an upcoming tri-nation series.

Bangladesh Cricket Board selected Shahriar Nafees, Aftab Ahmed, Alok Kapali and Dhiman Ghosh, for the first time since their ban was lifted following their departure from the rebel Indian league.

They are included in a provisional 26-member squad for the series beginning on January 4 in Dhaka, where Bangladesh will square off against India and Sri Lanka.

http://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?cid=2&id=148754&hb=top

[Eshen]

[বাংলা]জাতীয় দলে ডাক পেলেন নাফীস আফতাব অলক

ঢাকা, ডিসেম্বর ১২ (বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম)- জাতীয় দলে আবার ডাক পেয়েছেন আইসিএল ফেরত শাহরিয়ার নাফীস, আফতাব আহমেদ ও অলক কাপালি।

আসন্ন ত্রিদেশীয় সিরিজের জন্য বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি) শনিবার যে প্রাথমিক দল ঘোষণা করেছে, তাতে স্থান হয়েছে তাদের।

২৬ জনের ওই দলে ডাক পেয়েছেন ভারতের বিদ্রোহী ক্রিকেট লীগে যাওয়া উইকেট কিপার ধীমান ঘোষও।

গত বছরের সেপ্টেম্বরে আইসিএলে যোগ দেওয়ায় এদের ১০ বছরের জন্য নিষিদ্ধ করেছিলো বিসিবি। গত ৬ জুন তারা আইসিএলের সঙ্গে সম্পর্কচ্ছেদের কথা জানালে নিষেধাজ্ঞা তুলে নেওয়া হয়।

এরপর তারা ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে খেলে এলেও আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেট খেলার জন্য ছয় মাস তাদের বিবেচনায় না নেওয়ার সিদ্ধান্ত নেয় বিসিবি।

"আগামী ডিসেম্বরে তাদের (আইসিএল ফেরত) কুলিং পিরিয়ড শেষ হচ্ছে। জানুয়ারির ১ তারিখ থেকেই তারা নিষেধাজ্ঞা মুক্ত হচ্ছে। যদি তারা প্রাথমিক ক্যাম্পে ভালো করে তবে জানুয়ারিতে শুরু হতে যাওয়া তিন জাতির টুর্নামেন্টে অংশ নিতে কোনো সমস্যাই থাকবে না", আইসিএল ফেরতদের দলে নেওয়ার কারণ ব্যাখ্যা করে বলেন প্রধান নির্বাচক রফিকুল আলম।

ভারত, শ্রীলঙ্কা এবং স্বাগতিক বাংলাদেশকে নিয়ে আগামী ৪ জানুয়ারি শুরু হচ্ছে ত্রিদেশীয় ক্রিকেট টুর্নামেন্ট।

বিসিবি কার্যালয়ে সংবাদ সম্মেলনে রফিকুল বলেন, "ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে ভালো করার কারণেই এদের দলে বিবেচনা করা হয়েছে। ঘরোয়া লীগে এদের সবাই রান সংগ্রহে ওপরের দিকেই আছে। এছাড়া উইকেট রক্ষক মুশফিকুর রহীমের কাঁধে ব্যথা থাকায় ধীমান ঘোষকে দল রাখা হয়েছে।"

প্রাথমিক দলে আরো রয়েছেন- মাশরাফি বিন মোর্তুজা, সাকিব আল হাসান, মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুল, আব্দুর রাজ্জাক, শাহাদাত হোসেন, মুশফিকুর রহীম, তামিম ইকবাল, সৈয়দ রাসেল, জুনায়েদ সিদ্দিকী, মেহরাব হোসেন জুনিয়র, রকিবুল হাসান, মাহমুদ উল্লাহ রিয়াদ, এনামুল হক জুনিয়র, নাজমুল হোসেন, নাইম ইসলাম, ইমরুল কায়েস, মাহবুবুল আলম রবিন, রুবেল হোসেন, সগীর হোসেন, ডলার মাহমুদ, শফিউল ইসলাম ও রবিউল ইসলাম।

ডাক পাওয়া সব ক্রিকেটারকে রোববার সকাল ১০টায় মিরপুর শেরে বাংলা জাতীয় ক্রিকেট স্টেডিয়ামে রিপোর্ট করতে বলা হয়েছে।

প্রাথমিক দল ঘোষণার তাৎক্ষণিক প্রতিক্রিয়ায় শাহরিয়ার নাফীস বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোরকে বলেন, "এক বছর পর আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটে ফিরতে পারছি জেনে ভীষণ খুশি আমি। চেষ্টা করব বেটার পারফরম্যান্স করে জাতীয় দলে ফেরার।"

ঢাকা লীগে প্রথম পর্যায় শেষে দুটি সেঞ্চুরি ও দুটি ফিফটি নিয়ে ৫০২ রান তুলে ব্যাটসম্যানদের মধ্যে সবার উপরে ছিলেন শাহরিয়ার নাফীস। ৪২৯ রান করে তৃতীয় স্থানে ছিলেন আফতাব।[/বাংলা]

http://bdnews24.com/bangla/details.php?cid=2&id=116065&hb=top

[Anher]

BCB picks 4 ex-rebels for tri-nation series
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Dhaka, Dec 12 (bdnews24.com) - BCB has picked four of Bangladesh's top cricketers, previously banned from national play for joining the lucrative but unauthorised Indian Cricket League, for an upcoming tri-nation series.

Bangladesh Cricket Board has selected former 'rebels' Shahriar Nafees, Aftab Ahmed, Alok Kapali and Dhiman Ghosh, for the first time since their ban was lifted following their departure from the Indian league.

They are included in a provisional 26-member squad for the series beginning on January 4 in Dhaka, where Bangladesh will square off against India and Sri Lanka.

bdnews24.com/sa/rah/saz/1538h

[Eshen]

For people that can't read Bangla, the 26 member provisional squad consists of -

Mashrafe Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Zunaed Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Saghir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh.

[Murad]

new face robiul islam and shafiul islam

I think one of them can replace rubel hossain.

Alok doesn't deserve a place in the 15-member squad.

[Anher]

Sorry Eshen.
Mods please delete my thread. Thanks.

[fais]

i see no reason why alok or dhiman have been selected
any ideas to who the other 22 are

[Eshen]

Shafiul Islam: He was found during Pink City Talent Hunt 2006, organized by CWAB and coordinated by Khaled Mahmud. He was one of the top 10 wicket takers in last edition of DPL, helping Surjo Tarun to be the runners-up of the league. He spent the last summer with the BCB academy, and apparently that helped him to be leading wicket taker in current DPL, playing for Biman.

Shafiul's profile (http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/171/171520/171520.html)


Robiul Islam: He was found during GP Pacer Hunt 2005. He was the leading pacer in last NCL, playing for Khulna. He also spent the last summer with BCB academy. He is currently playing for Abahani in DPL.

Robiul's profile (http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/94/94513/94513.html)

http://www.cricketarchive.com/pictures/22/22056.jpg
Robiul accepting his MoM in an academy match

[fais]

For people that can't read Bangla, the 26 member provisional squad consists of -

Mashrafe Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Zunaed Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Saghir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh.

some rlly random and stupid choices
and who the hell is robiul islam

my last 15 who leave shahadat, alok, dhiman, junaid, robiul islam, mehrab, saghir hossain, dolar mahmud out

[mac]

Shariar Nafees and Aftab Ahmed deserve this. surely Alok and Dhiman not getting the chance in the final 14.

[Naimul_Hd]

i would say, its a good move from BCB. it will surely put some sort of pressure on current national players to perform consistently well to retain their place.

Moreover, as Tamim, sakib, Mushfiq, Mash are suffering from injury, BCB had no other choices to recall Alok, Dhiman, S.N, and Aftab in the team though its not final 15 squad.

[Eshen]

surely Alok and Dhiman not getting the chance in the final 14.
How can you be so sure? If it's about their mediocre DPL stats, they got in the provisional squad despite their mediocre performances.

Siddons worked with them exclusively after Eid, and I guess he is feeling confident about them.

[BANFAN]

Not bad. Atleast 2 of them should make it to the team.

[_Rafi_]

Shahadat still in.:-)
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[cricman]

3 Wicket Keepers hmm

Just skimming thre the squad, Dolar, Ruber and any other Pacer should be crossed if Rasel and Mashrafe are fit

[BANFAN]

Good to see these guys coming back to the side. Mental maturity was lacking in our team. Hope they have matured during this ICL debacle & will grab this chance with both hands.

[revolver]

very good move

[al Furqaan]

they should split these 26 into two sides and play 3 match series as a warm up. we can see who does what? and they should play on the mirpur pitches as well.

i hope mash and TI make the cut.

[revolver]

For people that can't read Bangla, the 26 member provisional squad consists of -

Mashrafe Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Zunaed Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Saghir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh.

tnx...
btw that shaiful islam looooks big :o
hope his biceps and triceps do some good work for the nats in the future

[magic boy]

they've kept the word. thanx to BCB !!! Now its up to "Fantastic(!)4" to prove their stance. best wishes for them...After all - Bangladesh Cricket Team rulzzz\m/

[magic boy]

glad to see a good reliable team.

[Rainman]

Robiul Islam: He was found during GP Pacer Hunt 2005. He was the leading pacer in last NCL, playing for Khulna. He also spent the last summer with BCB academy. He is currently playing for Abahani in DPL.

Robiul's profile (http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/94/94513/94513.html)

http://www.cricketarchive.com/pictures/22/22056.jpg
Robiul accepting his MoM in an academy match

Are you sure this is a pic of robiul islam? he sounds like he's Moslem, but he is wearing "rakhi" - it could be a fashion thing I suppose...

[magic boy]

Are you sure this is a pic of robiul islam? he sounds like he's Moslem, but he is wearing "rakhi" - it could be a fashion thing I suppose...


He is Muslim....that is simply a bracelet!!! or even it is usually used like "TABIZ"

[_Rafi_]

Shakib, Rajjak, Musfiq, Raqibuk, Riad, Nayeem, Nazmul and SN these 8 wl certainly make in 14 members squad.
Tamim, Rasel , Enamul, Aftab/IK and Ash these 5 is slightly uncertain but wl make it in the final.
8+5=13
14th spot- if Mash doesn't play them one of Mahbubul robin, Shahadat, Rubel, Dolar, Shafiul.
My pick one of Dolar or Robin
others have no chance for making into squad.
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[auntu]

SN and Aftab's inclusion is understandable and I personally felt that it's logical but Alok and Dhiman's inclusion proves once again Bagh mama & Co.'s inability to select players with due reason. This year's league Alok barely played any good innings and he even didn't bowl most of the matches. :(

[wiseshah]

Shakib, Rajjak, Musfiq, Raqibuk, Riad, Nayeem, Nazmul and SN these 8 wl certainly make in 14 members squad.
Tamim, Rasel , Enamul, Aftab and Ash these 5 is slightly uncertain but wl make it in the final.
8+5=12
13th spot- if Mash doesn't play them one of Mahbubul robin, Shahadat, Rubel, Dolar, Shafiul.
My pick one of Dolar or Robin
14th spot- one of IK or Mehrab
others have no chance for making into squad.

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wrong math
what mehrab has done?

[wiseshah]

some rlly random and stupid choices
and who the hell is robiul islam

my last 15 who leave shahadat, alok, dhiman, junaid, robiul islam, mehrab, saghir hossain, dolar mahmud out


i thought u will ask, who the hell is shafiul islam
Robiul islam shiplu is kind of well known to BC members, just like shubhashis roy.

shafiul islam was surprise to me

[wiseshah]

my 15

tamim
Mushfiq
shahriar nafees
rokibul
shakib
ashraful
mahmudullah
naeem
mashrafe
razzaq
rasel

extra 4-- najmul,aftab,alok, Rubel hossain/robiul islam

[wiseshah]

big no to: mehrab jr, should not be in the 26 even

[revolver]

big no to: mehrab jr, should not be in the 26 even
:floor::floor:
i agree with u

[Miraz]

Alok and Dhiman didn't deserve the call based on their recent performances. I think pre-ICL performances played a big role here.

It would be too risky to include Alok in the team. He will ruin the middle-order balance which we achieved after a long trial and error procedures. Alok's inclusion means departure of either Naeem or Mahmudullah who were consistent performers over the last 12 months. They deserve to be nurtured ahead of the crucial world cup campaign. Mr. "inconsistent" Alok has very little to offer in ODIs and Tests.

[Equinox]

Yeah I agree some really random choices just to make up the numbers. What has Mehrab Hossain, Saghir Hossain and Robiul Islam done in the DPL? Why has Rony Talukder, Shubashis Roy been ignored. And what's with naming 26 players?

I would've replaced:
Mehrab Hossain - Rony Talukder
Saghir Hossain - Zohirul Islam
Robiul Islam - Shubashis Roy

Other than that it is pretty much what was expected. I think if Mash isn't fit Shofiul might just make it in ahead of Shahadat, Dollar and Rubel.

[Abirz]

Omg,finally this day has come!! Now I can start following bangla cricket again...:D

[Yameen]

I disagree with the selection of dhiman ghosh, I was never a fan of his and very overrated back in the day and he should only stake his claim by showing consistent good performances in the domestic leagues..

I only see Shahriar Nafees as an opener in ODIs along with Tamim who would take on the more aggressive role..He defo would suit the opener slot in sub-continental conditions so would be good to have him open in the tri-series and come in for Junaid perhaps..

Aftab, I am unsure about his role in the team..I would rather keep Riyad, Naeem and Rok who are the more sensible heads of the team and we need mature players..I doubt Aftab would ever come in for Ash and Shakib is irreplacable..

Alok has been incosistent throughout his career but perhaps could come in lower order batting and bowl 5-7 overs at no more than 4.5 rpo..but I do not see him being selected in the main eleven for the upcoming tri-series thats for sure..

[Equinox]

SN and Aftab's inclusion is understandable and I personally felt that it's logical but Alok and Dhiman's inclusion proves once again Bagh mama & Co.'s inability to select players with due reason. This year's league Alok barely played any good innings and he even didn't bowl most of the matches. :(
I think that was Siddons' decision. Look at the news Eshen posted, Siddons called them up for seperate training and I think he was impressed that's why he wanted them included.

[Zeeshan]

Let them have their 15 minutes.... if they can't hustle they will know that time has come for them to retire as we got so much more back now enuff contenders a la joker's stick.

[_Rafi_]

wrong math
what mehrab has done?
math is fixed:-)
Mehrab done nothing but our selector like him. Btw he is now excluded
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[zainab]

I did not hear of Mushy's injury. If he is, then I think that is the reason why Dhiman Ghosh is in the squad. i am more than happy to see Aftab's name there.

[BANFAN]

Alok and Dhiman didn't deserve the call based on their recent performances. I think pre-ICL performances played a big role here.

It would be too risky to include Alok in the team. He will ruin the middle-order balance which we achieved after a long trial and error procedures. Alok's inclusion means departure of either Naeem or Mahmudullah who were consistent performers over the last 12 months. They deserve to be nurtured ahead of the crucial world cup campaign. Mr. "inconsistent" Alok has very little to offer in ODIs and Tests.

I won't mind if they take alok in place of M.Ullah. Mullah hasn't been doing good at all and failed at a few crucial times. If Alok can do good (I believe he can do better than Mullah) we will have a very strong batting order & a variation in bowling as well. I won't take his doemstic performance so seriously, just like to see his attitude in some big matches. I think he will do better than before & better than Mullah for sure.

[Miraz]

I won't mind if they take alok in place of M.Ullah. Mullah hasn't been doing good at all and failed at a few crucial times. If Alok can do good (I believe he can do better than Mullah) we will have a very strong batting order & a variation in bowling as well. I won't take his doemstic performance so seriously, just like to see his attitude in some big matches. I think he will do better than before & better than Mullah for sure.

I am just afraid of this attitude which is hindering our progress in international cricket. We easily discount a hard working consistent perofrmer in favour of a fluky inconsitent "so called talent".

I don't want to bring stats here, but please check yourself. Mahmudullah has better averages with both bat and ball in all format of the game. Alok has never managed such averages in his career despite giving countless opportunities. Yet.. some people want to see Alok in the team.

[Raynman]

I am just afraid of this attitude which is hindering our progress in international cricket. We easily discount a hard working consistent perofrmer in favour of a fluky inconsitent "so called talent".

I don't want to bring stats here, but please check yourself. Mahmudullah has better averages with both bat and ball in all format of the game. Alok has never managed such averages in his career despite giving countless opportunities. Yet.. some people want to see Alok in the team.

I like Alok, but he is not deserving of getting the nod over Naeem or Riad at the moment. I think Ash is a better pick for one of those two slots as well (middle order batting spinners). Barring injuries, I doubt he will be in the final squad. But I am happy to see him in the mix and not totally ignored.

I really hope the gloves are taken off of Mushy though. For that I wouldn't mind seeing Dhiman back in the team.

[Tigers_eye]

around what date this side will get trimmed?

[Tigers_eye]

I like Alok, but he is not deserving of getting the nod over Naeem or Riad at the moment. I think Ash is a better pick for one of those two slots as well (middle order batting spinners). Barring injuries, I doubt he will be in the final squad. But I am happy to see him in the mix and not totally ignored.

I really hope the gloves are taken off of Mushy though. For that I wouldn't mind seeing Dhiman back in the team.
Ageeed/

Dhiman with the bat is a concern. He has not stayed in hte wicket for long. We need some output from our WK as well. Specially the fragile top order

[Raynman]

Hopefully this will be officially the end to treating these guys as outsiders in this forum. They are now back in the national fold and should be treated as such going forward based on their performance for the national team should they be in the final 11 and not ICL or pre ICL performances.

BCB has now put it to rest, I hope to see BC do it as well.

[Musfique]

BANFAN typifies the Bangladeshi mindset, i.e the grass is always greener on the other side.

Mahmudulla has been improving day by day and if you look at his performance on the international and domestic scene you'll notice a level consistency not seen amongst BD players. We must give M'Dullah the platform and support to improve further. Also i remeber Mccines clearly identifying him as tough cookie, i.e strong mentaly.

People keep forgetting that mental toughness is the most important characteristic of a cricketer, which Alok/Ash/Aftab severely lacks.

If people think these players with such a phychological profile will take BD to to the next level than you are blind.

What we need is more M'Dullahs, Mushfiques, Rakibs, and Sakibs.

[Raynman]

Ageeed/

Dhiman with the bat is a concern. He has not stayed in hte wicket for long. We need some output from our WK as well. Specially the fragile top order

I've always been of the mindset that putting too many contingency plans within the actual planning just leads to never addressing the actual problems to begin with.

If you're selected/inserted into line up as a top order batsman you need need to perform. Period. Putting in a back up in the form of Mushy doesn't help much when the top 6 or 7 has already failed. There should be pressure on the top to perform or be dropped and not on the middle order to consistently bail them out.

Don't get me wrong, I love Mushy's drive and energy and have nothing against him as a batsman. I just think his glovework and resulting lives and runs are nulling out his contribution with the bat. Unfortunately, his height and reach is nothing he can do about and that is crucial for a wicket keeper. The wicketkeeper should always be a WK first and a batsman second. Dhoni, Sanga, Gilchrist, McCullum, Boucher all make the team as a Keeper and their batting makes them an all rounder. Not so for Mushy.

[Tigers_eye]

right you are. But I am concern with Dhiman's form with the bat. In One day wk needs to bat as well. He didn't impress me with the glove work as well watched ST's game. gave away byes. Most concerning was didn't come back to stumps while others were having a shy at the stumps. That is wking 101.

[dash]

I am just afraid of this attitude which is hindering our progress in international cricket. We easily discount a hard working consistent perofrmer in favour of a fluky inconsitent "so called talent".

I don't want to bring stats here, but please check yourself. Mahmudullah has better averages with both bat and ball in all format of the game. Alok has never managed such averages in his career despite giving countless opportunities. Yet.. some people want to see Alok in the team.

Spot on Miraz bhai.....

Alok doesn't deserve a chance in the firsts x1 eleven at this moment but i reckon he is good ennuf as a back up to mullah and naeem and may come into the team in the middle order if someone like ash is moved up the top due to tamims injury or something

[One World]

Seems like a JS choice.

[_Rafi_]

This call up wl give Shafiul, Rabiul some inspiration
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[Tigers_eye]

This call up wl give Shafiul, Rabiul some inspiration

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If I am not mistaken this call up really means nothing unless you get in to the 14/15 squad.

[kiriket]

For people that can't read Bangla, the 26 member provisional squad consists of -

Shahadat Hossain, Enamul Haque Jr

Why Enamul? I can name 10 better SLA from DPL than him..waste of space..Most hyped player doing nothing for 3/4 years.

And Shahadat...you have some luck..even your club team would drop you had they paid less money on you.

[AsifTheManRahman]

some rlly random and stupid choices

Can't disagree, but don't care much either as this is a preliminary squad. All's well that ends well and I'll be happy as long as they don't screw up the main XV.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Alok and Dhiman will probably not make the final cut. If we must have a backup keeper, it should probably be Saghir Hossain anyways.

Then again, Aftab doesn't make the final cut either in my books. Especially considering that we won't be dropping Ashraful. All other positions are more or less taken.

[Rommel]

What kind of pace do Shafiul Islam and Robiul Islam provide?

[Equinox]

My Final Fifteen:
Mashrafe Mortaza (C)
Shakib Al Hasan (vice-captain)
Mohammad Ashraful
Abdur Razzak
Mushfiqur Rahim
Tamim Iqbal
Alok Kapali
Aftab Ahmed
Shahriar Nafees
Syed Rasel
Naeem Islam
Mahmudullah
Raqibul Islam
Nazmul Hossain
Dhiman Ghosh (wicket-keeper)

I'm sorry but Enamul won't have any effect against India or Sri Lanka . He is an ordinary spinner who hasn't done much since his U19 days. He can't even perform in domestic cricket. He can only get a few wickets against Zimbabwe and that's it. As for the second opener I think we should try either Mushfiq or Ash/Aftab with Tamim and SN at 3.

[FagunerAgun]

Yea hoo!
Big rebels are back!
It is time for others to pack.
Hope and pray Mash, Tamim and Shak are fit
To give this cricket world a surprise hit.

[FagunerAgun]

My Final Fifteen:
Mashrafe Mortaza (C)
Shakib Al Hasan (vice-captain)
Mohammad Ashraful
Abdur Razzak
Mushfiqur Rahim
Tamim Iqbal
Alok Kapali
Aftab Ahmed
Shahriar Nafees
Syed Rasel
Naeem Islam
Mahmudullah
Raqibul Islam
Nazmul Hossain
Dhiman Ghosh (wicket-keeper)


agree, a mar haba one. Is there any way, you can drop Ash!

[Catskills]

Here is my thoughts:
It was stupid of the selectors not to include Shuruwardi Shuvo. He should replace Enamul Haque Jr.
I don't know why the selectors are still fans of: Shahadat Hossain, Mehrab Hossain Jr and Dolar Mahmud. Didn't we have enough of them already?
I think there are much better players than Saghir Hossain and Imrul at this moment. I am also not confident with Syed Rasel. I don't he his doing well. We seem to have better pacers now.
Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh: None of them have proven themselves yet or recently to get a call.

[_Rafi_]

Out of 26 members 9 players are pacer, 9 allrounders(incl. 3 wk), 8 batsmen.
Pacers ruling the primary squad.
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[Eshen]

http://www.thedailystar.net/photo/2009/12/13/2009-12-13__sp02.jpg

Bangladesh Biman paceman Shafiul Islam sends down a delivery during his side's Premier Super League match against Abahani at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium yesterday. Shafiul, who has been outstanding in the league, celebrated his maiden call-up in the national team with a virtuoso all-round show against Abahani in a dramatic tie. Photo: Tigercricket.com

[nycpro96]

Shakib should still lead. Unfair to take it away from him so quick. He was performing well. It would be wonderful to see how he performs against top quality sides.

[nycpro96]

Aftab and SN will make it. Unsure bout Dhiman.

[cricket_pagol]

I like Alok, but he is not deserving of getting the nod over Naeem or Riad at the moment. I think Ash is a better pick for one of those two slots as well (middle order batting spinners). Barring injuries, I doubt he will be in the final squad. But I am happy to see him in the mix and not totally ignored.

I really hope the gloves are taken off of Mushy though. For that I wouldn't mind seeing Dhiman back in the team.

Dhiman has not done anything special during the DPL to demond an inclusion to the nation team. I am very unhappy with Mushy's performance as well.

I guess the most worrying aspect is our seam bowling attack... There is just too much injury problem in the team.

[Ashraf-FTP]

Mashrafe Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Naeem Islam, Dolar Mahmud, Shahriar Nafees, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh.

my top 15.. dont see anyone else making it except Kayes maybe..

and Rubel is overrated in BC.. he is just a useless waste of space who can neither take wickets or give less runs..

[tonoy]

It is certain that Mash will not play this series. Odds are that Tamim might also miss out this series.

[Eshen]

From http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=117508
"We are really concerned about our pace attack as Mashrafe has no chance to play the coming series. Both Shafiul and Robiul have got the potential and they came into the highest stage through a process by playing with the Bangladesh A and Academy team. We desperately need to give a shape to our pace attack," said Rafiqul.

The team will be reduced after ten days.

[BD-Shardul]

My 15 man squad would look like this (playing eleven + 4 bench warmer):

Tamim Iqbal Khan
SN Ahmed
Aftab Ahmed
Rockibul Hasan
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Ashraful
Nayeem Islam
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzaq
Syed Rasel
____
Zunaed Siddiqi
Rubel Hossain
Nazmul Hossain
Mahmudullah Riyad

[AsifTheManRahman]

So that means guys like Shafiul and Robiul will have to take on most of the burdens of the pace attack on what might be their debut series. Wonder if we can still win a game or two without the kind of minefields that we played New Zealand and Sri Lanka on earlier in the year.

[nycpro96]

What was the point of Mash in the squad if he has "no chance to play". I think we NEED to make the pitches 100% Shakib and Razzak friendly. Our pace attack will suffer deeply. Our pace attack equals Rasel/Dolar/Rubel/Rajib/Robin. Big matter of concern. Rasel is the most trashy pacer, nothing close to what he used to be. Dolar, I don't understand his bowling at times. Rubel has what pacers need expect experience. He should stick to DPL for a while. Rajib used to show some good bowling at times but overall has declined in performance for a long time. Robin can swing the ball very well but lacks the consistency of bowling 6 good balls in an over. Robin has performed in the DPL so he should be given a go in the tri-series. Lets see what happens. Inshallah we will do good.

[al Furqaan]

mash still out?

as long as he comes back for the test series we should be thankful. but perhaps his exclusion will cause us to look for a test bowler who can eventually replace him. maybe mash should focus on being an ODI specialist to prolong his career. if he can bowl until age 35, perhaps thats what he should do.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Then again, we do have guys like Robin and Nazmul in the squad. They are still crap, but at least we have the option of not exposing newcomers to the brutal koshais that the Indian and Sri Lankan batsmen have become.

I don't think a spin-friendly pitch will help - we need something that will keep low to the point of awkwardness. Basically, a really really crappy ODI pitch where anything can happen and 160 is the par score.

[al Furqaan]

Then again, we do have guys like Robin and Nazmul in the squad. They are still crap, but at least we have the option of not exposing newcomers to the brutal koshais that the Indian and Sri Lankan batsmen have become.

I don't think a spin-friendly pitch will help - we need something that will keep low to the point of awkwardness. Basically, a really really crappy ODI pitch where anything can happen and 160 is the par score.

i think nazmul has made some big strides since being smacked outta the side for 3 years by trescothik and collingwood.

he is no talent, thats for sure, but has looked quite solid against zimbabwe. if he can maintain line and length, and force sehwag, yuraj into making errors then we'll be fine. we need world cup form rasel to keep the other end tight. razzak and sakib should have the middle overs covered, and the other 10 overs can come from ash-naeem-aftab.

i dont want to debut any pacer, and dollar/robin/rajib should be clear cut no-nos.

where is sajidul? has he not been playing DPL? i'd also would have liked to see talha in the provisional side, he's always amongst the domestic wickets.

[al Furqaan]

i agree with ATMR, we need a bad pitch. if folks complain, who cares, both teams are batting on it so suck it up!

[wiseshah]

I think shakib should stay as captain. Even if alok selected he should not be in the main 11

[Eshen]

Then again, we do have guys like Robin and Nazmul in the squad. They are still crap, but at least we have the option of not exposing newcomers to the brutal koshais that the Indian and Sri Lankan batsmen have become.

Well, even a fully fit Mash can be slaughtered by those Indian and Lankan batsmen. But, with the WC just a year away, and with Mash being an unreliable option (fitness wise), I think it's about time we try out other options we have, besides Nazmul and Robin (we already know what they are capable off). Our chance of winning any match in this series is already looking bleak with so many injuries, so why not use the series to experiment with different team combinations?

Shafiul looks particularly exciting as a potential allrounder. Today, he was good enough to beat the crap out of Shakib during death overs!

[Nafi]

Robin is only suited to tests at the moment, he bowls too many bad balls.

If Robin didnt bowl his rubbish wide balls every over, I would rate him better than mash or rasel.

[godzilla]

Inclusion of S.Nafees makes sence to me (making good runs) and Junaid needs a big break and get his act together. Aftab makes sence if Tamim fails to recover (not as good as tamim but he is a attacking player like tamim). The other 2 should have not been recalled (their performance was crap) and what is really so good about dhiman? When i followed his matches (the pakistan series), it was just normal performance, mushy's keeping isnt that far away from him and mushy;s batting is way way way better!!

[Foozy]

Thank you Eshen for all the Info!
Quite a few players should not have made it to this squad, and quite a few players should have been included that again got overlooked!

Mashrafe Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Zunaed Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Saghir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh.

Where in the world are Shuvo???, Shuvashish Roy???, Talha???, Sajidul???, Rony Talukder???, etc? ...The more deserving players that is!

[Foozy]

And I am sorry but I do not agree with anyone who is saying that Mushy should be replaced by Dhiman in keeping. As far as I recall, Dhiman used to miss several easy catches, but make a few astonishing ones! Much like the tripple A's batting. Very inconsistent with glimpses of power that could take over the world!

[roaring tigerz]

It seems we are again betting our world cup hopes on the much maligned trifecta of ashraful, aftab and kapali. Two world cups and a decade of failures later these three are unfortunately still the cornerstones of our batting.

I agree with some of the other posters who want ashraful to bat lower down the order. After more than two years trying him in the most pivotal number three position, its pretty clear to me that he just isn't cut out for it. A team which more often than not loses a wicket inside the first powerplay, the thought of a twitching, nervous ashraful waltzing in signals imminent disaster. But then who would take his spot? Aftab is the best candidate, but he too has exhibited all the debilitating symptoms of Ashraful. Kapali? He does not even play any higher than 4 for his club team and nothing suggests he is ready for that spot? Raqib and Mushfiq are far too conservative to take advantage of the powerplay overs. And the last thing we need is to dislodge Shakib from his spot.

[Shaan]

Good to see ALok, SN, and Aftab got the call !!!

[Murad]

http://www.prothom-alo.com/resize/maxDim/460x1000/img/uploads/media/2009-12-12-17-54-23-092429200-icl4l.jpg


[বাংলা]কোচ জেমি সিডন্স তাঁদের অনুশীলনে ডেকেই ইঙ্গিত দিয়েছিলেন জাতীয় দলের বিবেচনায় ভালোভাবেই আছেন শাহরিয়ার নাফীস, আফতাব আহমেদ, অলক কাপালি আর ধীমান ঘোষ। আইসিএলের এই চার ক্রিকেটারই ডাক পেয়েছেন ঢাকায় ৪ জানুয়ারি থেকে শুরু হতে যাওয়া তিন জাতি সিরিজের ২৬ সদস্যের প্রাথমিক দলে। একেবারেই নতুন মুখ দুই পেসার—শফিউল ইসলাম ও রবিউল ইসলাম।

আইসিএল ক্রিকেটারদের ওপর থেকে ১০ বছরের বহিষ্কারাদেশ তুলে নেওয়ার সময় বলা হয়েছিল, ৩১ ডিসেম্বরের পর তাঁদের আবার বিবেচনা করা হবে জাতীয় দলে। কিন্তু তাঁদের বিবেচনায় নেওয়া হলো আগেই। প্রধান নির্বাচক রফিকুল আলম বলেছেন, ‘ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটের পারফরম্যান্সের সঙ্গে আগামী বছরের ব্যস্ত সূচির কথা মাথায় রেখেছি আমরা। অনেকের ইনজুরি আছে, পাইপলাইনে তাই অনেক ক্রিকেটার রাখতে হবে। তা ছাড়া তিন জাতি সিরিজ শুরু হবে ৪ জানুয়ারি, কুলিং পিরিয়ড শেষ করে ওদের ডাকতে গেলে দেরি হয়ে যেত।’ আইসিএল ক্রিকেটারদের অনেকেই দেশের ক্রিকেট ছেড়ে যাওয়ার সময় রফিকুল আলমের নেতৃত্বাধীন নির্বাচক কমিটির ওপর বিষোদগার করলেও প্রধান নির্বাচক সেটা ভুলে যেতে চান, ‘কে কী বলেছে সেটা আমরা ভাবছি না। জাতীয় স্বার্থে যা ভালো হয় আমরা তা-ই করেছি।’

মাত্রই দু দিন আগে বড় বোনের মৃত্যুতে শোকস্তব্ধ অলকের জন্য প্রাথমিক দলে আসার সুখবরেও আনন্দিত হওয়ার সুযোগ ছিল না কাল। আফতাব আহমেদের প্রতিক্রিয়া জানা যায়নি তাঁর মোবাইল বন্ধ থাকায়। তবে আইসিএল-ফেরত অন্য দুই ক্রিকেটার শাহরিয়ার আর ধীমান যেন পাচ্ছেন পুরোপুরি শৃঙ্খলমুক্ত হওয়ার আনন্দ। ‘খুবই ভালো লাগছে। চেষ্টা করব নিজেকে প্রমাণ করে মূল দলে জায়গা করে নেওয়ার’—বলেছেন শাহরিয়ার। ধীমানের কাছে খবরটা আরও বেশি আনন্দের মনে হচ্ছে, কারণ এখনই জাতীয় দলের ছাদের নিচে আসার আশা তিনি নিজেই করেননি, ‘এটা আনন্দেরই খবর। জাতীয় দলে খেলার ইচ্ছা সবারই থাকে। তবে এখনই প্রাথমিক দলে চলে আসব ভাবিনি।’ আইসিএল ক্রিকেটারদের প্রাথমিক দলে দেখে খুশি কোচ সিডন্সও, ‘দলে সুযোগ পাওয়া না পাওয়া পরের কথা। এটা খুবই ভালো খবর যে ওরা আবার জাতীয় দলের বিবেচনায় এসেছে।’[/বাংলা]

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2009-12-13/news/24956#comments

[Eshen]

Where in the world are Shuvo???, Shuvashish Roy???, Talha???, Sajidul???, Rony Talukder???, etc? ...The more deserving players that is!
As far as pacers go, I think selectors picked best possible ones available.

Sajid missed the entire DPL, don't think he is fit to play at this point.

Biman dropped Talha in favor of Shafiul. It would be funny if selectors picked him for the national team.

Shuvashis has not been given a full spell by Abahani lately (once he was taken off only after two overs!), and I suspect that's because he is having control issues. According to T_E, his action is not smooth and he often struggles to maintain his line. I think selectors made a very wise choice to leave him alone for now.

[desirocker]

Inclusion of S.Nafees makes sence to me (making good runs) and Junaid needs a big break and get his act together. Aftab makes sence if Tamim fails to recover (not as good as tamim but he is a attacking player like tamim). The other 2 should have not been recalled (their performance was crap) and what is really so good about dhiman? When i followed his matches (the pakistan series), it was just normal performance, mushy's keeping isnt that far away from him and mushy;s batting is way way way better!!

but i read somewhere that mushi got minor injury. May B that's y they included Ghosh in the squad

[Murad]

Shouldn't this thread be merged with the other one opened by Eshen?

[Foozy]

As far as pacers go, I think selectors picked best possible ones available.

Sajid missed the entire DPL, don't think he is fit to play at this point.

Biman dropped Talha in favor of Shafiul. It would be funny if selectors picked him for the national team.

Shuvashis has not been given a full spell by Abahani lately (once he was taken off only after two overs!), and I suspect that's because he is having control issues. According to T_E, his action is not smooth and he often struggles to maintain his line. I think selectors made a very wise choice to leave him alone for now.

Thanks for the clarification on the pacers. I was actually wondering after the post why I haven't heard anything about Sajid this DPL. I hope Shuvashis comes back strongly. And that's really a pity about Talha! Expected a lot better from him.

I think I got some work to do with the eraser for now....:shh:

[Foozy]

Mashrafe Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Zunaed Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Saghir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh.

Where in the world are Shuvo???, Rony Talukder???, etc? ...The more deserving players that is!

...There you go! Done :D

[Murad]

Rony failed to make runs in last 3/4 rounds of the DPL. Failed in both game in the super league. He does welll against the minnows of DPL.

[al Furqaan]

Well, even a fully fit Mash can be slaughtered by those Indian and Lankan batsmen. But, with the WC just a year away, and with Mash being an unreliable option (fitness wise), I think it's about time we try out other options we have, besides Nazmul and Robin (we already know what they are capable off). Our chance of winning any match in this series is already looking bleak with so many injuries, so why not use the series to experiment with different team combinations?

Shafiul looks particularly exciting as a potential allrounder. Today, he was good enough to beat the crap out of Shakib during death overs!

mash has performed admirably against the might of indian and SL batsmen on numerous occaisions.

but yes, if tamim too misses out, we have little hope of gaining an Ws this series. as always, hoping for the best.

[Foozy]

http://www.prothom-alo.com/resize/maxDim/460x1000/img/uploads/media/2009-12-12-17-54-23-092429200-icl4l.jpg


....two of the four look clueless, and the other two look like filmi villains! I will not mention names :smug:

[abu2abu]

As much as I like Alok, it would be very harsh on Mahmudullah or naeem if they are replaced in the first XI by him. It is true he has done nothing of note recently to warrant selection. I suspect he is the coach's choice...

We have 3 w/k, the question is why 3? And if 3 why Dhiman and Saghir? What happened to Mithun Ali?

[Murad]

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জাতীয় দলের ক্যাম্পে আইসিএল-ফেরত চার ক্রিকেটারদ্বিতীয় ইনিংস শুরু ওদের
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'দলে আমার মেধা আর যোগ্যতার মর্যাদা দেওয়া হচ্ছিল না। খেলার মতো পরিবেশ খুঁজে পাচ্ছিলাম না আমি।'_ ২০০৮ সালের ১৫ সেপ্টেম্বর সমকালে ছাপা হয়েছিল শাহরিয়ার নাফীসের এই আক্ষেপের কথা। গতকাল জাতীয় দলে ডাক পেয়ে সমকালকেই জানালেন বদলে যাওয়া নাফীসের কথা। 'আমার ওপর নির্বাচকরা যে আস্থা রেখেছেন, তার মর্যাদা দিতে চাই। আমার বিশ্বাস ছিল, ভালো খেলতে থাকলে একদিন দলে ফিরে আসবই। তা এক বছরেই হোক, না হয় পাঁচ বছরেই হোক_ বিশ্বাস ছিল, ফিরে আমি আসবই।' কোনো অভিমান বা আফসোস ছিল না ২৭ মাস বাদে পাওয়া এই শাহরিয়ার নাফীসকে। আইসিএলে যাওয়াটা ভুল ছিল, না সঠিক ছিল_ তার উত্তর এখনও জানা নেই নাফীসের। তবে তিনি বিশ্বাস করেন, আইসিএল-পরবর্তী একটি বছর সময় তাকে অনেকটাই বদলে দিয়েছে। তা যেমন ব্যাট- বলের টেকনিক্যাল দিক থেকে, ঠিক ততটাই মানসিক দিক থেকেও। 'আইসিএলে যাওয়াটা ভুল ছিল কি-না আমি সেই প্রশ্নে যাব না। তবে গত একটি বছর অনেক কিছু শিখেছি। ভুল শুধরেছি অনেকভাবে। এই একটি বছরের অবসরে অনেক বেশি সতেজ করেছে আমাকে। মানসিকভাবে অনেক পরিণত হয়েছি, যা আগামীতে আমার ক্রিকেট ক্যারিয়ারে কাজে দেবে।' ক্যারিয়ারের দ্বিতীয় ইনিংস শুরু করার মুখে আগের চেয়েও আত্মবিশ্বাসী ছিলেন নাফীস।

গতকাল নাফীসের মতোই জাতীয় দলের প্রাথমিক ক্যাম্পে ডাক পেয়েছেন আইসিএলফেরত ধীমান ঘোষ। জাতীয় দলের সাবেক এই উইকেটরক্ষকও আক্ষেপ নিয়ে আইসিএলে গিয়েছিলেন। 'আমাকে বারবার মনে করিয়ে দেওয়া হতো, আমি কখনোই দেশের এক নম্বর উইকেটরক্ষক হতে পারব না। হতাশাটা সেখান থেকেই বেড়েছে।' গত বছরের ১৫ সেপ্টেম্বর ধীমানের এই কথাও ছাপা হয়েছিল সমকালে। 'আমিও দেশকে অনেক কিছু দিয়েছি।' ধীমানের এই বিতর্কিত মন্তব্য টেলিভিশনে প্রচার হয়েছিল সেই সেপ্টেম্বরেই। গতকাল জাতীয় দলের ক্যাম্পে ফিরে এসেও সেই বিতর্কিত মন্তব্যরই ব্যাখ্যা করতে চাইলেন ধীমান। 'সেদিন আমার মন্তব্য বিকৃত করে প্রচার করা হয়েছিল। তবে আমি সত্যিই দুঃখিত। এখন মনে হয়, সেদিন আইসিএলে যাওয়াটা ভুল ছিল। দেখতে দেখতেই শেষ হয়ে গেল। কিছু বুঝে ওঠার আগেই দেখি অনেক সময় কেটে গেছে। দেরি হয়ে গিয়েছিল অনেক। তবে এখন শুধুই নিজের ওপর বিশ্বাস রাখি আমি। শুধু জানি, আমাকে ভালো করতে হবে। সুযোগ এলে তা কাজে লাগাতে হবে।' সেদিনের মতো এদিনও আফসোস কুড়ে খাচ্ছিল ধীমানকে। শেষবার গত বছরের সেপ্টেম্বরে ডারউইনে অস্ট্রেলিয়ার বিপক্ষে খেলেছিলেন ধীমান। অলক কাপালিরও বাংলাদেশের হয়ে শেষ ম্যাচ ছিল ওটি। সেদিন কাপালিও আক্ষেপ নিয়ে আইসিএলে গিয়েছিলেন। তবে গতকাল প্রত্যাবর্তনের প্রতিক্রিয়া জানতে কাপালিকে ফোনে পাওয়া যায়নি। বোনের মৃত্যুর খবর পেয়ে সিলেট ছুটে গিয়েছিলেন কাপালি। মোবাইল বন্ধ করে রাখায় আফতাবকেও পাওয়া যায়নি। যেমনটি পাওয়া যায়নি ২৭ মাস আগে। নিজের কথা নিজের মধ্যে রাখতেই স্বস্তিবোধ করেন আফতাব। আর তাই আজও তার সমর্থকরা জানেন না, কেন তিনি আইসিএলে গিয়েছিলেন? কেন তিনি নিজেকে দেশীয় ক্রিকেট থেকে এতদিন ফিরিয়ে রাখলেন?
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Source: Shamokal

[Anher]

Shouldn't this thread be merged with the other one opened by Eshen?

Yes it should. Just after opening this thread i saw Eshen already opened similar thread minute earlier and i asked to delete this thread. Hence didnt update any more news in this thread.

[abu2abu]

It would've been nice to see Subhashish Roy in the squad. not to make the final XI but just to be part of the set upo so that he is not daunted when he eventually makes his debut (as he surely will).

I doubt Mushfiq will be repalced as keeper unless he is injured. what he lacks in keeping ability he makes up for in his solid batting. unfortunatel for us a top class stumper is a luxury BD cannot currently afford.

From the way things have been going for Ash in the DPL, it looks like he may open in ODIs. Probably only if Tamim is injured. Of the 4 ICL returnees I think only Shahriar Nafees will make the final squad...

[Shoikoth]

this whole thing about player availability is quick becoming like a loose kid at the candy store.

why are we bringing in so many "medium" pacers, and not working hard to get Shahadat back to the old?

why have we played Nayeen and Mahmudullah so much, and yet feel comfortable branding them as a second tier player set?

what is alok doing here..are the indians going [edit] surrender their wickets?

who are these multitude of medium fast pacers, when we have shahadat and rubel ?

Nafees, Zunaid and Imrul really need to duke it out ? Looks like we as a country are better at creating a 100 Opees than 1 good Gavaskar.

Dhiman should really make our current wk sweat for the ODI position. His keeping was outstanding in australia.

Aftab needs to show that his eid score isn't limited to a 27 off 25 balls. Or is his competing against Ashraful ?

[Ashraf-FTP]

this whole thing about player availability is quick becoming like a loose kid at the candy store.

why are we bringing in so many "medium" pacers, and not working hard to get Shahadat back to the old?

why have we played Nayeen and Mahmudullah so much, and yet feel comfortable branding them as a second tier player set?

what is alok doing here..are the indians going to [] surrender their wickets?

who are these multitude of medium fast pacers, when we have shahadat and rubel ?

Nafees, Zunaid and Imrul really need to duke it out ? Looks like we as a country are better at creating a 100 Opees than 1 good Gavaskar.

Dhiman should really make our current wk sweat for the ODI position. His keeping was outstanding in australia.

Aftab needs to show that his eid score isn't limited to a 27 off 25 balls. Or is his competing against Ashraful ?
i agree with everything except the fast medium bit..

Shahadat and Rubel are 2 wild pacers who cant do anything rather than bowl some fast balls with no line or length.. its better to try out young new bowlersrather than the same old rungivers.. i will be happy if they pick Dolar over Shahadat and Rubel.. Shahadat has luck as someone said before to be in the team.. and Rubel is just over-hyped about his pace and his 4 wickets is the only good performance.. and for 1 performance, someone cant be hanging around the team for too long.. in my opinion, both of them should be dropped from the 15 man squad and be told to fix their lines..

[Rommel]

What was the point of Mash in the squad if he has "no chance to play". I think we NEED to make the pitches 100% Shakib and Razzak friendly. Our pace attack will suffer deeply. Our pace attack equals Rasel/Dolar/Rubel/Rajib/Robin. Big matter of concern. Rasel is the most trashy pacer, nothing close to what he used to be. Dolar, I don't understand his bowling at times. Rubel has what pacers need expect experience. He should stick to DPL for a while. Rajib used to show some good bowling at times but overall has declined in performance for a long time. Robin can swing the ball very well but lacks the consistency of bowling 6 good balls in an over. Robin has performed in the DPL so he should be given a go in the tri-series. Lets see what happens. Inshallah we will do good.

Any proof? If I remember correctly, he has bowled quite well whenever he wasn't injured.

[tiger_club]

Excellent work Eshen and Murad bhai. I just hope Mash and Tamim gets fit before the tri-series.

[Rommel]

Ashraf, Rubel is a talent that we haven't had ever. Now yes he has struggled, but that is whats gonna happen when you are thrust into the international scene. I mean seriously, what do you expect him to do when the "elderstatesmen" that he is learning from are "has beens" like Nazmul and Shahadat. It was obvious that Rubel bowled much better when he was around a real bowler, Mashrafe. I don't think he should be dropped for a few bad performances as we don't really have anyone knocking on the door that deserves his spot. And whats with the love for Dolar? Is it because of that one good performance a few matches ago? You probably haven't been following BD cricket for too long or you would have known how crap Dolar has been the past few years. When you have a good young talent like Rubel, you can't just drop him after a few bad performances because if you do, you might never see him again (talha is a good example, was a great talent but now where is he??)

[cricket_pagol]

I hope SN will use this opportunity to make his position in the team permanent!!!

I guess the pacers are the biggest worry at the moment. Hopefully, Rubel will make his mark in this tournament, without mashrafee we need somebody else to step up!

Also, the board needs to give the captaincy to Shakib now. We cannot have a injured captain for three series in a row...

[revolver]

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dhiman and nafees look alike

[cricman]

Please No Rubel ... Let Him play the A Team Tour Later on in April.

I don't want non of that Over Pitched Crap the offers width vs Dilshan, Sanath, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Sachin, Ghambir, Sewhag.

I'd let Rajib bowl since he's had some remblence of getting these out before.

The A team tour of 05, I thought he had a Trio of Mashrafe, Rajib and Rasel that would cause Havoc for the rest of the World 2 of them are always hurt the other has a Brain the Size of a Peanut

[AsifTheManRahman]

Mashrafe Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Zunaed Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Saghir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh.

Agree with the strikes there. All of them.

[revolver]

Please No Rubel ... Let Him play the A Team Tour Later on in April.

I don't want non of that Over Pitched Crap the offers width vs Dilshan, Sanath, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Sachin, Ghambir, Sewhag.

I'd let Rajib bowl since he's had some remblence of getting these out before.

The A team tour of 05, I thought he had a Trio of Mashrafe, Rajib and Rasel that would cause Havoc for the rest of the World 2 of them are always hurt the other has a Brain the Size of a Peanut

yhh no rubel...i dont think he doesnt hav no variation and he will get smacked all over

[zia]

I did not hear of Mushy's injury. If he is, then I think that is the reason why Dhiman Ghosh is in the squad. i am more than happy to see Aftab's name there.

You are right that's what Selector Rafiq has mentioned about Dhiman's inclusion. Mushy has shoulder injury. I want to see Aftab back but at whose expense!

[mij]

....two of the four look clueless, and the other two look like filmi villains! I will not mention names :smug:

LOL, I like it, that is so true.

[t697318]

here's my 15 man squad
tamim iqbal
shahriar nafees
aftab ahmad
mohammad ashraful
shakib al hasan
mushfiqur rahim
mahmudullah
mashrafe mortaza
alok kapali
abdur razzak
rubel hossain
junaid siddique
saghir hossain
naeem islam
shahadat hossain

[Antora]

I guess like what many of you have said SN could replace Zunaed....
Although, It's going to take me a while to forgive SN and Dhiman on the comments they made before they went and played in ICL. when Players make comments like that, IMO they shouldn't deserve a spot in the team.
But , I do hope atleast 2 of them get a place in the final 15. One of them being Shahriar Nafees.

[yaseer]

Like most of others, I also think Alok and Dhiman should not be there. Also Mehrab is doing nothing, Shahadat is giving way around 7 runs per over even in DPL. What has selectors seen in Shagir Hossain I do not know. Some other examples as well where players are included without proper justification.

As there is no justification, selectors used a good cause, "we need more players for upcoming busy season to be in the pipeline". If it is so, then Why Shohrawardi Shuvo is not icluded in the team? Has he not done enough to be included at least in the "pipeline" criteria?

[Murad]

^^^ Because Shuvo is just another slow left arm spinner. We have way too many left arm spinners in the team. Plus now we have riyad and naeem who are good allrounders and better batsman than Shuvo. So Shuvo is not needed even though he is a good allrounder.

[yaseer]

If I am not mistaken this call up really means nothing unless you get in to the 14/15 squad.

Actually it is something, as players know that their performances are recognized and they are in the right track. Also motivational in a way that they just need one more step to be in the 14/15 man squad.

[yaseer]

^^^ Because Shuvo is just another slow left arm spinner. We have way too many left arm spinners in the team. Plus now we have riyad and naeem who are good allrounders and better batsman than Shuvo. So Shuvo is not needed even though he is a good allrounder.

Murad bhai, Considering all you mentioned, still another spinner can be included to be in the "pipeline". They have included 8 Pacers and only 2 (Razzak & Enam) specialist spinner. Adding another spinner would not harm them. There is no rule that you have to have 26 men preliminary squad, it could have been 27 as well. As selectors are picking players considering the whole busy season ahead, I feel they could have included one more spinner as we must need them against Test matches coming ahead.

[wiseshah]

besides this 26 preliminary squad, if we make a squad, how it will be. do u think we can beat our national team?

shamsur rahman Shuvo
Rony talukder
Juhurul islam omi/Mithun ali
marshall ayub
uttam sarker/Ghazi salauddin
najmus sadat
najmul hossain milon
Shohrawardi shuvo
nasir Hossain/sanjamul islam/nabil samad
subhashis roy
Emon ahmed/Talha jubaer

[yaseer]

besides this 26 preliminary squad, if we make a squad, how it will be. do u think we can beat our national team?

shamsur rahman Shuvo
Rony talukder
Juhurul islam omi/Mithun ali
marshall ayub
uttam sarker/Ghazi salauddin
najmus sadat
najmul hossain milon
Shohrawardi shuvo
nasir Hossain/sanjamul islam/nabil samad
subhashis roy
Emon ahmed/Talha jubaer

Answer is No, but good that after 26, we still can make a competitive squad.

[Foozy]

Actually it is something, as players know that their performances are recognized and they are in the right track. Also motivational in a way that they just need one more step to be in the 14/15 man squad.

Exactly my point! I do not care that they included Shahadat and Dhiman even though they are doing jack nothing! If only they showed some appreciation to the players who deserve it.

I knew I was missing someone. Marshal Ayyub! Just saw the name from Wiseshah's list. This man should also have been in the first 30 or so "pipeline" players if that is what they are calling it now.

It is true. It gives them inspiration. And for one thing, Shohrawardy Shuvo deserved it more than half of these players that they have chosen. Moreover, players like Shahadat and Aftab, if not pushed to do better, they will never do any better, because they will feel that they have "done their job"! These latter players already know that they are in the selectors' minds. But the former ones do not. In fact they have been overlooked repeatedly. This is just not fair if they are calling them pipeline players.

Razzak was out due to faults with action just a few series ago. Enamul was useless back then. There is nothing wrong in having someone like Shuvo in the lineup. He might even (I believe he will) surpass Enam or even Razzak for that matter! Give the man a chance! Choose him as a bowler if not an allrounder. He is a good bowler first and then allrounder. And this is supposed to be the criteria for choosing a player.

As far as Marshall Ayyub goes, he could easily topple the averages of Junaed, Ash, Alok, Aftab, or others if given a chance. You will never know unless you keep these players in the fold and give them inspiration to play well. Too many players in this list that have done nothing to deserve the call.

[Dhrubo]

^^^ Because Shuvo is just another slow left arm spinner. We have way too many left arm spinners in the team. Plus now we have riyad and naeem who are good allrounders and better batsman than Shuvo. So Shuvo is not needed even though he is a good allrounder.
Yeah,it would have been great if shuvo was a leg spinner/chinaman, too bad he isnt. But we shouldn't sacrifice variety for quality, I think shuvo is the better bowler compared to naeem and riyad.

[beshideshi]

Scenario A:
Mr X is an upcoming youngster. He has been working hard for a long time now, he is one of the highest run getter in the recent league. Yet he is not in the 26 man list.
Mr Y is a batsman who has been given several chances at the top level. Scores at 20ish runs per innings in the recent league and gets a call because he is *talented*

Results;
A: Mr X is devastated and gives up cricket thinking even his best cant bring him to the top OR
B: He tries harder next year to ensure that his exclusion will result in "michil and andolon" in Dhaka.

I for one think Mr Y should not come near the national team unless he can prove himself in the domestic league first, something SN has done and earned a call rather than relying on his past performances.
And for Mr X, my best wishes are with him, hoping to see him succeed in near future

[Shoikoth]

i agree with everything except the fast medium bit..

Shahadat and Rubel are 2 wild pacers who cant do anything rather than bowl some fast balls with no line or length.. its better to try out young new bowlersrather than the same old rungivers.. i will be happy if they pick Dolar over Shahadat and Rubel.. Shahadat has luck as someone said before to be in the team.. and Rubel is just over-hyped about his pace and his 4 wickets is the only good performance.. and for 1 performance, someone cant be hanging around the team for too long.. in my opinion, both of them should be dropped from the 15 man squad and be told to fix their lines..

you are ofcourse right - shahadat has plumetted, and Rubel has not delivered.

but we are quickly becoming a nation of test players w/ only 15 - 20 tests under their belts. What good does that do for the country if we can't build seniority through experience and performance.

we have a long pipeline of players...who are good only at earning a test cap. No wonder people accuse us of diluting the quality of the game.

we need to learn how to build players who can deliver over and over again. to me, dolar and marshal ayub are just 2 more names, who may hold promise, but more likely a false one. we fans or more likely to get allured by something each player has in him, that we perceive them to have more than them really having it.

[Dhrubo]

you are ofcourse right - shahadat has plumetted, and Rubel has not delivered.

but we are quickly becoming a nation of test players w/ only 15 - 20 tests under their belts. What good does that do for the country if we can't build seniority through experience and performance.

we have a long pipeline of players...who are good only at earning a test cap. No wonder people accuse us of diluting the quality of the game.

we need to learn how to build players who can deliver over and over again. to me, dolar and marshal ayub are just 2 more names, who may hold promise, but more likely a false one. we fans or more likely to get allured by something each player has in him, that we perceive them to have more than them really having it.
Agreed, and I don't think rubel should be thrown into the bin already. How many odis did he play ? just eight I think. That is not enough to drop him. What rubel needs is more games, more experience in difficult conditions and more games with difficult batsmen. He's still a rookie, you cant expect your rookies to overtake your veterans so quickly.

[fais]

disappointed to hear that mushy is nursing a shoulder injury - hope he recovers; rlly have no desire to dhiman - he has failed to perform at alll

[kalpurush]

math is fixed:-)
Mehrab done nothing but our selector like him. Btw he is now excluded

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He is not that bad as a Test player!?:-D

[simon]

Dhiman is not good engh to replace Mushy unless he has improved his bttng.
How good was Dhiman during the DPL with the bat?

[riankhan]

Dhiman is not good engh to replace Mushy unless he has improved his bttng.
How good was Dhiman during the DPL with the bat?

"Anda"

[fais]

Dhiman is not good engh to replace Mushy unless he has improved his bttng.
How good was Dhiman during the DPL with the bat?

he was soo good that he was invisible!

[Equinox]

Biman captain Mushfiqur Rahim on the inclusion of Shafiul Islam Suhas: "He is also from Bogra so I know him quite well. He always used to bowl with pace but had issues with line and length but now he has gained some control and has been very succesful. He is also pretty useful with the bat."

From NTV Gallery

[beshideshi]

http://www.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/image/439132.html?page=1;object=25

here's Shafiul Islam in action

[_Rafi_]

Jamie Siddons is not happy with the selection of Aftab and SN (source-NTV).
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[zainab]

Jamie Siddons is not happy with the selection of Aftab and SN (source-NTV).
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If Jamie is not happy with the selection of these two, then I am sure that he will pay no attention to them. coaches have favourites and they spend more time with their favourites, after all, the selectors are not there in the training camp to see what is happening. Feel bad that these players are not in the coach,s good books, though I think that he did like Aftab at one time. I still feel that Aftab is a good 20/20 player, and should be given the proper training.

[series]

Jamie Siddons is not happy with the selection of Aftab and SN (source-NTV).
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I dont understand what the media people mean by 'not happy'. Even if Jamie Siddons has uttered that 'there could have been better player than SN and Aftab' OR 'Aftab and Shahriar should be given more time ' - now that the media persons will take it that Siddons is not happy or Siddons is the enemy of BD OR Siddons .....
:hairpull::hairpull:

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[series]

If Jamie is not happy with the selection of these two, then I am sure that he will pay no attention to them. coaches have favourites and they spend more time with their favourites, after all, the selectors are not there in the training camp to see what is happening. Feel bad that these players are not in the coach,s good books, though I think that he did like Aftab at one time. I still feel that Aftab is a good 20/20 player, and should be given the proper training.

I believe this is not the matter. There is certainly communication gap. No coach would try to demoralise two good batsmen before an important series. Siddon's is not that kind of man.

[kalpurush]

Jamie Siddons is not happy with the selection of Aftab and SN (source-NTV).

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If Jamie is not happy with the selection of these two, then I am sure that he will pay no attention to them. coaches have favourites and they spend more time with their favourites, after all, the selectors are not there in the training camp to see what is happening. Feel bad that these players are not in the coach,s good books, though I think that he did like Aftab at one time. I still feel that Aftab is a good 20/20 player, and should be given the proper training.

I dont understand what the media people mean by 'not happy'. Even if Jamie Siddons has uttered that 'there could have been better player than SN and Aftab' OR 'Aftab and Shahriar should be given more time ' - now that the media persons will take it that Siddons is not happy or Siddons is the enemy of BD OR Siddons .....
:hairpull::hairpull:



I believe this is not the matter. There is certainly communication gap. No coach would try to demoralise two good batsmen before an important series. Siddon's is not that kind of man.
It seems just a "mon gora" kahini of NTV sangbadik, IMO, unforrtunately.

SN is in the squad because of his performance, thus, why coach would be unhappy?!!!

[Equinox]

Jamie Siddons is not happy with the selection of Aftab and SN (source-NTV).
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But he is happy with Alok and Dhiman?

[kalpurush]

But he is happy with Alok and Dhiman?
Ha Ha...kool question!;)

[Equinox]

So it is certain that it will be a 14-member squad not 15 and it is also certain that Mash is out.

So this is my updated final squad:
Shakib Al Hasan (C)
Mushfiqur Rahim (vice-captain)
Mohammad Ashraful
Abdur Razzak
Tamim Iqbal (Replacement Zunaed Siddique)
Shahriar Nafees
Aftab Ahmed
Syed Rasel (Replacement Shafiul Islam)
Raqibul Hasan
Naeem Islam
Mahmudullah
Nazmul Hossain
Dhiman Ghosh (wicket-keeper)
Rubel Hossain

[_Rafi_]

It seems just a "mon gora" kahini of NTV sangbadik, IMO, unforrtunately.

SN is in the squad because of his performance, thus, why coach would be unhappy?!!!
Siddons said that b4 their departure for ICL, their performence was inconsistent and he is not going to clap for their inclusion. He also said that it doesn't mean they will include in final squad.
I think unhappy that his fav student Junaed have to sacrifice his place for them.
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[_Rafi_]

But he is happy with Alok and Dhiman?
if u think otherwise, he is totally ignoring them. They have no realistic chance to get final call up.
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[Umar]

Preliminary squad: Mashrafe Bin Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahim (wk), Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Junaid Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Raqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Sahagir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Aftab Ahmed, Alok Kapali, Dhiman Ghosh

The selectors are nuts or what? what are these players doing in the squad? importantly what have they done to deserve a place? This is beyond discouraging to players(performers in dpl) like Rony talukdar, Zohurul, Islam etc. This mental defectiveness of our selectors must stop

[Equinox]

I just saw the interview that Rafi is referring to and yeah Siddons seemed pretty harsh on both SN and Aftab. On SN he said that domestic performance does not always translate to good performance in International cricket and also he said SN was not a regular in the team before he left for ICL so he should not take a place for granted. He was even more upset when asked about Aftab. He said he struggles for consistency and he indirectly said he is not happy with his selection (I won't applaud this selection). At the end he said people should understand that he can't drop players who have been performing for a year just because the ban has been lifted.

It is contrasting to what he said when the ICL'ers left. I remember he said that he lost 6/7 players out of the 20 that he had marked for the future.

[Tigers_eye]

http://bangladesherkhela.com/index.php?newsID=15159&pageTitle=details&editionID=881
translating parts:
There won't be much change in the national team. there is a bgi difference in national and intl play. Scoring highest runs in the league does mean he is in. ICLers should utilize the call up in doing hard work and practice. Very busy intl schedule ahead. Everyone needs to be ready. The selectors will make the final cut after the trainer, physio and coach evaluates them.

at first day of the practice few are missing because of on going league play. Alok is missing because of family reason (since most here wants to know what food he ate, which movie he watched, how many times he went to the bathroom, which type of show powder he uses etc.)

SN don't think he would play right away. His goal is to get in and stay there permanently. He knows what he needs to do. Work hard and continue.

[Fortuner]

Nazmul is doing gud considering the present pacers other than Mash.

Rubel definetly has the potential but due to tender age,he has lots to learn but I say lets take him in as we dont have anyone better than him considering his pace.

If Mash out, Rubel in along wid Nazmul and someone from the new face.

I doubt Rajib wld creat any impact. So would Dollar, Robin and Rasel.

Remember we playing Indians who are in great form and Sri Lankans also not Zimbo's who we could murder using our not so gud quality pacers at times.

[M.H.Rubel]

I just saw the interview that Rafi is referring to and yeah Siddons seemed pretty harsh on both SN and Aftab. On SN he said that domestic performance does not always translate to good performance in International cricket and also he said SN was not a regular in the team before he left for ICL so he should not take a place for granted. He was even more upset when asked about Aftab. He said he struggles for consistency and he indirectly said he is not happy with his selection (I won't applaud this selection). At the end he said people should understand that he can't drop players who have been performing for a year just because the ban has been lifted.

It is contrasting to what he said when the ICL'ers left. I remember he said that he lost 6/7 players out of the 20 that he had marked for the future.

I can not understand whats going on why Siddons talking like this?
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[ahms]

I am just afraid of this attitude which is hindering our progress in international cricket. We easily discount a hard working consistent perofrmer in favour of a fluky inconsitent "so called talent".

I don't want to bring stats here, but please check yourself. Mahmudullah has better averages with both bat and ball in all format of the game. Alok has never managed such averages in his career despite giving countless opportunities. Yet.. some people want to see Alok in the team.


I agree with you. Present team has good understanding of team work. I love to see same team with improved performance. New inclusion will not do much good. I am sorry to see Mash, Tamim, Mush and Shakib are injured. I hope and pray they get well sooner.

[Eshen]

Siddons wary of changes

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=117648

Bangladesh coach Jamie Siddons welcomed the return of some ICL players to the national fold but it seemed that the Australian was hardly interested to make any major changes to the team which have won numerous games in the last few months.

The Australian was talking to reporters during the first day training at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium yesterday. Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) announced a 26-member preliminary squad on Saturday for the tri-nation tournament at home also involving India and Sri Lanka, which also saw four ICL-returnees---Shahriar Nafees, Aftab Ahmed, Alok Kapali and Dhiman Ghosh.

It was a tough time for Siddons when some frontline players left the team to join the unapproved Indian Cricket League (ICL) to create a huge vacuum as well as make a crisis but the newcomers responded well and won some games including against New Zealand, Sri Lanka, West Indies besides Zimbabwe.

"It is good that they (the ICL players) have come to preliminary selections and are available for us but they have to continue performing because the boys who have been with us have won us games," said Siddons.
Since the ICL defection, Siddons' charges have won 14 ODIs and 2 Tests.

There has been a problem with the opening slot as left-handed opener Zunaed Siddiqui has been struggling with his place and that's the reason many thought Shahriar Nafees's inclusion may solve the problem.
"Opening is a bit of concern but we did well in Zimbabwe where the opening pair added fifty odd runs every game. Zunaed has been a bit inconsistent although he is a talented player. Shahriar was also very inconsistent when he left us for ICL. It is good that they are scoring runs in the Premier Division Cricket League but it is a big step up from club cricket to international cricket," Siddons responded.

The concern however was not with the ICL players rather the injury of Mashrafe bin Mortaza, which is a cause of huge anxiety for the team. The leading paceman is all set to miss the coming tri-nation series as Dr. David Young, who operated on the paceman's both knees, issued a warning that it would be dangerous if Mashrafe plays before fully recovering from the injury.

"What Young advised is that it would be difficult for Mashrafe to return if he play a match until he is declared full fit," informed Debasish Chowdhury, BCB's physician.

Meanwhile, Alok Kapali could not appear in the first day training as his eldest sister Chaya Das breathed her last on Thursday in Sylhet at the age of 42. Also, Imrul Kayes has been suffering from a stomach injury.

[Eshen]

I was thinking Siddons had finally started to make some good decisions, but it's simply ridiculous that he wants to continue with Zunaed.

It will be also ridiculous if he does not change the bowling combination against India and Lanka, if he goes with Nazmul and bunch of spinners against them.

[dark mage]

Atleast Dhiman wont drop catches like Mushfiqur. Mushfiq has been dropping catches in almost every match in the recent matches against Zimbawe, we got away with it coz we were playing against weak teams but Mushfiq's misses are gonna cost us, in big matches. I have seen Mushfiq to even miss stumping chances on tp of dropping catches. In my opinion Siddons also finds Mushfiq's keeping ability not up to the mark, as it can be easily seen Dhiman has always been the better keeper. A keepers first priority should be keeping then batting, in Mushfiq's case its the other way around. If he wants to be in the team, he should only be used as a batsman.

[mishu]

I think what Siddon is doing is great,, i think everybody is forgetting when we needed these players the most they left to play in INDIA for money, and I think unlike some fans he is not willing to forgive that easily,, so they shouldnt take anything for granted.. being said that i also think SN should be given a chance at number three spot, cos thats where he did good..but who can replace Z is still the bi question...

[abu2abu]

Murad bhai, Considering all you mentioned, still another spinner can be included to be in the "pipeline". They have included 8 Pacers and only 2 (Razzak & Enam) specialist spinner. Adding another spinner would not harm them. There is no rule that you have to have 26 men preliminary squad, it could have been 27 as well. As selectors are picking players considering the whole busy season ahead, I feel they could have included one more spinner as we must need them against Test matches coming ahead.

i think this is just the preliminary squad for the tri-nation ODI series not for the test series against India...

[FagunerAgun]

My 15 man squad would look like this (playing eleven + 4 bench warmer):

Tamim Iqbal Khan
SN Ahmed
Aftab Ahmed
Rockibul Hasan
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Ashraful
Nayeem Islam
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzaq
Syed Rasel
____
Zunaed Siddiqi
Rubel Hossain
Nazmul Hossain
Mahmudullah Riyad

Mash is injured, will not be playing

[Eshen]

I just saw the interview that Rafi is referring to and yeah Siddons seemed pretty harsh on both SN and Aftab. On SN he said that domestic performance does not always translate to good performance in International cricket and also he said SN was not a regular in the team before he left for ICL so he should not take a place for granted. He was even more upset when asked about Aftab. He said he struggles for consistency and he indirectly said he is not happy with his selection (I won't applaud this selection). At the end he said people should understand that he can't drop players who have been performing for a year just because the ban has been lifted.
This is just ridiculous - no one expecting him to drop players because ban on ICLers has been lifted, but because current top order is so shaky!

If he wants to talk about consistency, Aftab was much more reliable than what the current top order have been against Zimbabwe this year.

It is contrasting to what he said when the ICL'ers left. I remember he said that he lost 6/7 players out of the 20 that he had marked for the future.Yep. I don't think issue here is ICLers, but that BCB and selectors have hurt his ego as they have not been communicating well with him about coaching staff and team selection.

[FagunerAgun]

Preliminary squad: Mashrafe Bin Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahim (wk), Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Junaid Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Raqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Sahagir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Aftab Ahmed, Alok Kapali, Dhiman Ghosh

The selectors are nuts or what? what are these players doing in the squad? importantly what have they done to deserve a place? This is beyond discouraging to players(performers in dpl) like Rony talukdar, Zohurul, Islam etc. This mental defectiveness of our selectors must stop

It is a bit frustrating to see them except Junaid in this ODI squad.

[abu2abu]

I'm sure we are making a big fuss about nothing, this is just a preliminary squad of 26 (or whatever the number is). It's not inconceiveable that none of the former ICLers make the final squad.

Do you remember the last preliminary squad that was anounced? I'm pretty sure the likes of nafis Iqbal and Hannan Sarkar were in that squad and neither of those guys looked like making the final XVI...

The selectors (many of whom are also Dhaka club officials) are probably just flexing their muscles. If siddons doesn't want aftab, SN, Alok and Dhiman in the side, they probably won't make the final squad...

[Eshen]

[বাংলা]আলোচনায় আইসিএল আর ইনজুরি

সকালে ইনডোরে এসেই নতুন দুই ছাত্রকে নিয়ে খাতা-কলম হাতে বসে গেলেন বোলিং কোচ চম্পকা রামানায়েকে। কোচের কথা অখণ্ড মনোযোগ দিয়ে শুনছিলেন জাতীয় দলের ক্যাম্পে প্রথম ডাক পাওয়া দুই পেসার। তবে চম্পকার ক্লাসটাকে ২৬ সদস্যের প্রাথমিক দলের প্রথম দিনের অনুশীলনে একটা বিচ্ছিন্ন ঘটনাই মনে হলো শেষ পর্যন্ত। অনুশীলনের বাকিটা হলো কেমন ছাড়া ছাড়া।

ছাড়া ছাড়া না হয়ে উপায়ও ছিল না আসলে। গত কিছুদিন ক্রিকেটারদের ইনজুরির সঙ্গে এমনই সখ্য হয়ে দাঁড়িয়েছে যে, ইনডোর বা মাঠের চেয়ে জিমনেসিয়াম আর মেডিকেল রুমেই দৌড়াতে হচ্ছে বেশি। মাশরাফি বিন মুর্তজা আর তামিম ইকবাল এখনো অনুশীলনে নামার মতো ফিট নন। মাশরাফি নিজেই বলছেন, ঝুঁকি নিতে চান না। আর বিসিবির চিকিত্সক দেবাশিষ চৌধুরীর ভাষ্য, ‘মাশরাফির যেহেতু এটাই শেষ সুযোগ, তাঁর ব্যাপারে সতর্ক হয়ে এগোতে চাই আমরা। তামিমের অবস্থা উন্নতির দিকে হলেও ১৮ ডিসেম্বর স্ক্যান করানোর পরই তাঁর সুুস্থতার ব্যাপারে নিশ্চিত হওয়া যাবে।’ আইসিএল-ফেরত আফতাব আহমেদ মাশরাফি-তামিমদের ইনজুরির মিছিলে নতুন সংযোজন। প্রিমিয়ার লিগে খেলাঘরের বিপক্ষে ম্যাচে হ্যামস্ট্রিংয়ে টান পড়েছে আফতাবের। এখনো পুরোপুরি সুস্থ হয়ে না ওঠায় কাল অনুশীলনের প্রথম দিনে ব্যাট হাতে নিলেন না। সকালে এসে ঘণ্টাখানেক জিমনেসিয়ামে কাটিয়েই চলে গেলেন।

ইনজুরির কথা বাদ দিলে কাল সুপার লিগ আর রেলিগেশন লিগের খেলা নিয়েও ব্যস্ত ছিলেন কেউ কেউ। সূর্যতরুণের ধীমান ঘোষ সে কারণেই প্রথম দিনের অনুশীলনে অনুপস্থিত। বোনের আকস্মিক মৃত্যুসংবাদ পেয়ে অলক কাপালি সিলেটে। আইসিএল-ফেরতদের মধ্যে প্রথম দিনের অনুশীলনে শাহরিয়ার নাফীসকেই দেখা গেল কেবল। আরও একবার জাতীয় দলের পরিবেশে আসতে পেরে খুবই খুশি এই বাঁহাতি ওপেনার, ‘তিন জাতি সিরিজের আরও দুই সপ্তাহের মতো আছে। আমি চেষ্টা করব এই সময়ে নিজের যোগ্যতা প্রমাণ করে মূল দলে জায়গা করে নেওয়ার। আর যদি সেটা নাও হয়, হতাশ হওয়ার কিছু নেই। জাতীয় দলে লম্বা সময় ধরে খেলতে চাই।’ আইসিএল অধ্যায়ের পর আবার দেশের ক্রিকেটে ফেরার সুযোগ পেয়ে, জাতীয় দলের প্রাথমিক তালিকায় আসতে পেরে বোর্ড এবং নির্বাচকদের ধন্যবাদও দিয়েছেন। বোর্ড তাঁর ওপর আস্থা রাখায় আত্মবিশ্বাস বেড়ে যাচ্ছে শাহরিয়ারের।

কিন্তু কোচ জেমি সিডন্সের কথায় কেমন যেন নিরাসক্তি আইসিএল ক্রিকেটারদের ব্যাপারে। অথচ একটি সূত্রমতে, আইসিএল ক্রিকেটারদের এখনই প্রাথমিক দলে ডাকার ইচ্ছা বোর্ডের খুব একটা ছিল না। অনেকটা কোচের একক ইচ্ছাতেই তাঁরা অনুশীলন শুরু করেন, প্রাথমিক দলেও এলেন। অথচ আইসিএল-ফেরত ক্রিকেটারদের ব্যাপারে কোচকে নিরুত্তাপ মনে হলো কাল, ‘তারা ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে খেলছে, চারজন ২৬ জনের দলেও এসেছে। এর মানে জাতীয় দলের বিবেচনায় আছে তারা। এখন পারফর্ম করে নিজেদের প্রমাণ করতে হবে।’ আইসিএল-ফেরতদের মধ্যে যে দুজনের নাম বেশি করে উচ্চারিত হচ্ছে, সেই শাহরিয়ার আর আফতাবের আইসিএল-পূর্ব ফর্মটাকেও সামনে আনতে চাইলেন সিডন্স, ‘শাহরিয়ার নাফীস যখন আইসিএলে গেছে তখন তার ফর্ম ধারাবাহিক ছিল না। আফতাবেরও তা-ই। আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটের সঙ্গে ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটের অনেক পার্থক্য। ক্লাব ক্রিকেটে পারফর্ম করা মানে এই না যে সে আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটেও পারফর্ম করবে।’

সিডন্সের কথার সুরে মনে হলো, জয়ের মধ্যে থাকা দলটাতে এই মুহূর্তে কোনো ভাঙাগড়া চাইছেন না তিনি। তবে ওপেনার জুনায়েদ সিদ্দিক প্রসঙ্গ উঠতে কোচও বলতে বাধ্য হলেন, ‘জুনায়েদ ২০-৩০ রানের গণ্ডি অতিক্রম করতে সংগ্রাম করছে। ও প্রতিভাবান ক্রিকেটার সন্দেহ নেই, তবে এখন রান করতে পারছে না। ওপেনিং জুটি নিয়ে আমরা অবশ্যই ভাবব...দলের সব পজিশন নিয়েই ভাবব।’

বিসিবির একটি সূত্রে জানা গেছে, থিংক ট্যাঙ্কের চিন্তায় বড় কোনো ওলট-পালট না হলে তিন জাতি সিরিজে জুনায়েদের জায়গা নিয়ে ওপেনার হিসেবে শাহরিয়ারের জাতীয় দলে ফেরার সম্ভাবনা প্রবল। তবে আফতাবের ফেরার সম্ভাবনায় কোচের সঙ্গে বিতর্ক হতে পারে থিংক ট্যাঙ্কের অন্য সদস্যদের। আফতাবের ফেরাটা অনেকেই রকিবুল হাসানের জায়গায় হওয়া উচিত মনে করলেও কোচ সেটা মনে করছেন না। সিডন্সের চোখে আফতাব দলে এলে শুধু মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুলকে সরিয়েই আসতে পারেন, রকিবুলকে নয়। ওয়ানডেতে রকিবুলের গড় ৩০.৫০। আশরাফুলের ২৩.৭৮ ও আফতাবের ২৫.৩২। ৩০ গড়ের কারও সঙ্গে ২৩-২৫ গড়ের খেলোয়াড়দের প্রতিদ্বন্দ্বিতা� � চেয়ে ২৩ আর ২৫-এর মধ্যে লড়াইটাকেই বেশি যৌক্তিক মনে হচ্ছে সিডন্সের কাছে। অঙ্কের জটিলতায় না গিয়ে সিডন্সের চাওয়ার আরও সহজ সারমর্ম হতে পারে এই—আশরাফুল বা আফতাব, যেকোনো একজনের ভারই বহন করতে চান তিনি জাতীয় দলে।

শেষ পর্যন্ত সিডন্সের চাওয়াই মূল্য পাচ্ছে কি না, সেটি জানতে অপেক্ষা করতে হচ্ছে ২২ ডিসেম্বর পর্যন্ত। সেদিনই ত্রিদেশীয় সিরিজের দল ঘোষণা করার কথা নির্বাচকদের।[/বাংলা]

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2009-12-14/news/25162

[Eshen]

I have to admit it's puzzling to see BCB think tank wants SN back as an opener after his prolonged failure at the position. At best, he should be considered for the #3 slot.

There should not be any question about Rock's position either.

It's also understandable that Siddons wants only one from Aftab and Ash in the team. Considering team's need and Ashraful's failure to deliver from top order, Aftab should be considered.

However, his reluctance to break the current combination or insistence on keeping Zunaed is still unreasonable.

[cricket_dorshok]

ekdom khati kotha! 2 bolod ek sathe noi.

[cricket_pagol]

I have to admit it's puzzling to see BCB think tank wants SN back as an opener after his prolonged failure at the position. At best, he should be considered for the #3 slot.

There should not be any question about Rock's position either.

It's also understandable that Siddons wants only one from Aftab and Ash in the team. Considering team's need and Ashraful's failure to deliver from top order, Aftab should be considered.

However, his reluctance to break the current combination or insistence on keeping Zunaed is still unreasonable.

I agree with your assessment except the comment on SN. Since SN is in good form I think he should be considered seriously for Zunaed's position or the #3 position.

[Antora]

I think what Siddon is doing is great,, i think everybody is forgetting when we needed these players the most they left to play in INDIA for money, and I think unlike some fans he is not willing to forgive that easily,, so they shouldnt take anything for granted.. being said that i also think SN should be given a chance at number three spot, cos thats where he did good..but who can replace Z is still the bi question...

:up: I agree.

[Eshen]

I agree with your assessment except the comment on SN. Since SN is in good form I think he should be considered seriously for Zunaed's position or the #3 position.
SN is always in good form, to bash teams without a good pair of pacers. Even in DPL, his performances against weak and strong bowling attacks have huge contrast.

[Foozy]

[বাংলা]আলোচনায় আইসিএল আর ইনজুরি

সকালে ইনডোরে এসেই নতুন দুই ছাত্রকে নিয়ে খাতা-কলম হাতে বসে গেলেন বোলিং কোচ চম্পকা রামানায়েকে। কোচের কথা অখণ্ড মনোযোগ দিয়ে শুনছিলেন জাতীয় দলের ক্যাম্পে প্রথম ডাক পাওয়া দুই পেসার। তবে চম্পকার ক্লাসটাকে ২৬ সদস্যের প্রাথমিক দলের প্রথম দিনের অনুশীলনে একটা বিচ্ছিন্ন ঘটনাই মনে হলো শেষ পর্যন্ত। অনুশীলনের বাকিটা হলো কেমন ছাড়া ছাড়া।

ছাড়া ছাড়া না হয়ে উপায়ও ছিল না আসলে। গত কিছুদিন ক্রিকেটারদের ইনজুরির সঙ্গে এমনই সখ্য হয়ে দাঁড়িয়েছে যে, ইনডোর বা মাঠের চেয়ে জিমনেসিয়াম আর মেডিকেল রুমেই দৌড়াতে হচ্ছে বেশি। মাশরাফি বিন মুর্তজা আর তামিম ইকবাল এখনো অনুশীলনে নামার মতো ফিট নন। মাশরাফি নিজেই বলছেন, ঝুঁকি নিতে চান না। আর বিসিবির চিকিত্সক দেবাশিষ চৌধুরীর ভাষ্য, ‘মাশরাফির যেহেতু এটাই শেষ সুযোগ, তাঁর ব্যাপারে সতর্ক হয়ে এগোতে চাই আমরা। তামিমের অবস্থা উন্নতির দিকে হলেও ১৮ ডিসেম্বর স্ক্যান করানোর পরই তাঁর সুুস্থতার ব্যাপারে নিশ্চিত হওয়া যাবে।’ আইসিএল-ফেরত আফতাব আহমেদ মাশরাফি-তামিমদের ইনজুরির মিছিলে নতুন সংযোজন। প্রিমিয়ার লিগে খেলাঘরের বিপক্ষে ম্যাচে হ্যামস্ট্রিংয়ে টান পড়েছে আফতাবের। এখনো পুরোপুরি সুস্থ হয়ে না ওঠায় কাল অনুশীলনের প্রথম দিনে ব্যাট হাতে নিলেন না। সকালে এসে ঘণ্টাখানেক জিমনেসিয়ামে কাটিয়েই চলে গেলেন।

ইনজুরির কথা বাদ দিলে কাল সুপার লিগ আর রেলিগেশন লিগের খেলা নিয়েও ব্যস্ত ছিলেন কেউ কেউ। সূর্যতরুণের ধীমান ঘোষ সে কারণেই প্রথম দিনের অনুশীলনে অনুপস্থিত। বোনের আকস্মিক মৃত্যুসংবাদ পেয়ে অলক কাপালি সিলেটে। আইসিএল-ফেরতদের মধ্যে প্রথম দিনের অনুশীলনে শাহরিয়ার নাফীসকেই দেখা গেল কেবল। আরও একবার জাতীয় দলের পরিবেশে আসতে পেরে খুবই খুশি এই বাঁহাতি ওপেনার, ‘তিন জাতি সিরিজের আরও দুই সপ্তাহের মতো আছে। আমি চেষ্টা করব এই সময়ে নিজের যোগ্যতা প্রমাণ করে মূল দলে জায়গা করে নেওয়ার। আর যদি সেটা নাও হয়, হতাশ হওয়ার কিছু নেই। জাতীয় দলে লম্বা সময় ধরে খেলতে চাই।’ আইসিএল অধ্যায়ের পর আবার দেশের ক্রিকেটে ফেরার সুযোগ পেয়ে, জাতীয় দলের প্রাথমিক তালিকায় আসতে পেরে বোর্ড এবং নির্বাচকদের ধন্যবাদও দিয়েছেন। বোর্ড তাঁর ওপর আস্থা রাখায় আত্মবিশ্বাস বেড়ে যাচ্ছে শাহরিয়ারের।

কিন্তু কোচ জেমি সিডন্সের কথায় কেমন যেন নিরাসক্তি আইসিএল ক্রিকেটারদের ব্যাপারে। অথচ একটি সূত্রমতে, আইসিএল ক্রিকেটারদের এখনই প্রাথমিক দলে ডাকার ইচ্ছা বোর্ডের খুব একটা ছিল না। অনেকটা কোচের একক ইচ্ছাতেই তাঁরা অনুশীলন শুরু করেন, প্রাথমিক দলেও এলেন। অথচ আইসিএল-ফেরত ক্রিকেটারদের ব্যাপারে কোচকে নিরুত্তাপ মনে হলো কাল, ‘তারা ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে খেলছে, চারজন ২৬ জনের দলেও এসেছে। এর মানে জাতীয় দলের বিবেচনায় আছে তারা। এখন পারফর্ম করে নিজেদের প্রমাণ করতে হবে।’ আইসিএল-ফেরতদের মধ্যে যে দুজনের নাম বেশি করে উচ্চারিত হচ্ছে, সেই শাহরিয়ার আর আফতাবের আইসিএল-পূর্ব ফর্মটাকেও সামনে আনতে চাইলেন সিডন্স, ‘শাহরিয়ার নাফীস যখন আইসিএলে গেছে তখন তার ফর্ম ধারাবাহিক ছিল না। আফতাবেরও তা-ই। আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটের সঙ্গে ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটের অনেক পার্থক্য। ক্লাব ক্রিকেটে পারফর্ম করা মানে এই না যে সে আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটেও পারফর্ম করবে।’

সিডন্সের কথার সুরে মনে হলো, জয়ের মধ্যে থাকা দলটাতে এই মুহূর্তে কোনো ভাঙাগড়া চাইছেন না তিনি। তবে ওপেনার জুনায়েদ সিদ্দিক প্রসঙ্গ উঠতে কোচও বলতে বাধ্য হলেন, ‘জুনায়েদ ২০-৩০ রানের গণ্ডি অতিক্রম করতে সংগ্রাম করছে। ও প্রতিভাবান ক্রিকেটার সন্দেহ নেই, তবে এখন রান করতে পারছে না। ওপেনিং জুটি নিয়ে আমরা অবশ্যই ভাবব...দলের সব পজিশন নিয়েই ভাবব।’

বিসিবির একটি সূত্রে জানা গেছে, থিংক ট্যাঙ্কের চিন্তায় বড় কোনো ওলট-পালট না হলে তিন জাতি সিরিজে জুনায়েদের জায়গা নিয়ে ওপেনার হিসেবে শাহরিয়ারের জাতীয় দলে ফেরার সম্ভাবনা প্রবল। তবে আফতাবের ফেরার সম্ভাবনায় কোচের সঙ্গে বিতর্ক হতে পারে থিংক ট্যাঙ্কের অন্য সদস্যদের। আফতাবের ফেরাটা অনেকেই রকিবুল হাসানের জায়গায় হওয়া উচিত মনে করলেও কোচ সেটা মনে করছেন না। সিডন্সের চোখে আফতাব দলে এলে শুধু মোহাম্মদ আশরাফুলকে সরিয়েই আসতে পারেন, রকিবুলকে নয়। ওয়ানডেতে রকিবুলের গড় ৩০.৫০। আশরাফুলের ২৩.৭৮ ও আফতাবের ২৫.৩২। ৩০ গড়ের কারও সঙ্গে ২৩-২৫ গড়ের খেলোয়াড়দের প্রতিদ্বন্দ্বিতা� � চেয়ে ২৩ আর ২৫-এর মধ্যে লড়াইটাকেই বেশি যৌক্তিক মনে হচ্ছে সিডন্সের কাছে। অঙ্কের জটিলতায় না গিয়ে সিডন্সের চাওয়ার আরও সহজ সারমর্ম হতে পারে এই—আশরাফুল বা আফতাব, যেকোনো একজনের ভারই বহন করতে চান তিনি জাতীয় দলে।

শেষ পর্যন্ত সিডন্সের চাওয়াই মূল্য পাচ্ছে কি না, সেটি জানতে অপেক্ষা করতে হচ্ছে ২২ ডিসেম্বর পর্যন্ত। সেদিনই ত্রিদেশীয় সিরিজের দল ঘোষণা করার কথা নির্বাচকদের।[/বাংলা]

http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2009-12-14/news/25162

Bohut koshto korai porlam! Took me like 20 mins or so. But It was a worth the trouble. And its good to know that Siddons is only gonna take one of the supper talented batsmen in the team.

As for SN, I would have him play at no.3 as well. Ash is not performing there. Aftab also I have no real hope. I would place one of those two in the opening slot for now and see how they fare.

If SN does manage to settle into the no.3 position that would be really great for us. Our current no.1, no.4, no.5, no.6, no.7, no.8 are more or less set and if we consider Razzak to be no.9 then even that is set. It would be great to have a set no.3 in SN as he can hit out and play slow.

[Eshen]

In current situation, our best combination is -

Imrul Kayes (only orthodox opener that's currently looking good)
Aftab Ahmed (the best option for a makeshift opener)
Naeem Islam (he got to be promoted and that's the only slot I see for him)
Roqibul Hasan (auto selection)
Shakib Al Hasan (auto selection)
Mushfiqur Rahim (Ash can be another option, but since JS does not want two bolods in the team)
Mahmudullah Riyad (coming close to cement his place in the team, should be left alone)
Saghir Hossain (got to have a specialist keeper, and he is doing better than Dhiman in this role)
Shafiul Islam (got to have a pacer who can take wickets, and he is currently the best option)
Abdur Razzak (auto selection)
Nazmul Hossain (stop gap option, hope he can at least be economical)

[kalpurush]

I was thinking Siddons had finally started to make some good decisions, but it's simply ridiculous that he wants to continue with Zunaed.

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Zunaed should get few more chance before to be dropped. Lately, he did has the starts but failed to continue. All he needs a bit of support from you - once he is confident I am sure he will surprise you with his performance.;):)

[Miraz]

I think the 15 man squad will look something like this

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Zunaed
3. Ashraful
4. Roqibul
5. Shakib
6. Naeem
7. Mahmudullah
8. Abdur Razzak
9. Mushfiqur Rahim
10. Nazmul Islam
11. Syed Rasel
12. Imrul Kayes/Shahriar Nafees
13. Shafiul Islam
14. Saghir Hossain (if Mushfiq fails to recover fully, as back-up keeper)
15. Dollar Mahmud/Enamul Haque Jnr.

[kalpurush]

There should not be any question about Rock's position either.
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Ditto. :up:

It's also understandable that Siddons wants only one from Aftab and Ash in the team. Considering team's need and Ashraful's failure to deliver from top order, Aftab should be considered.

Aftab in place of Ash?!
I would take Ash any given day ahead of Aftab. :)

[AsifTheManRahman]

I would take Ash any given day ahead of Aftab. :)
Me too.

[kalpurush]

I think the 15 man squad will look something like this

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Zunaed
3. Ashraful
4. Roqibul
5. Shakib
6. Naeem
7. Mahmudullah
8. Abdur Razzak
9. Mushfiqur Rahim
10. Nazmul Islam
11. Syed Rasel
12. Imrul Kayes/Shahriar Nafees
13. Shafiul Islam
14. Saghir Hossain (if Mushfiq fails to recover fully, as back-up keeper)
15. Dollar Mahmud/Enamul Haque Jnr.
That's mine and "selector's" squad also!? :)

[Eshen]

Please no Rasel unless he can confidently say he is 100% fit. I am tired of watching him getting into the team and then performing poorly because he is not "fully fit".

[Foozy]

Me too.

Me three! In any position!
And that's exactly why I keep saying that Aftab needs to find himself and score higher consistently. It will be a really good thing for the team and it will also force Ash to be more consistent which is when (and if) we can take them both in the team again.

[Foozy]

In current situation, our best combination is -

Imrul Kayes (only orthodox opener that's currently looking good)
Aftab Ahmed (the best option for a makeshift opener)
Naeem Islam (he got to be promoted and that's the only slot I see for him)
Roqibul Hasan (auto selection)
Shakib Al Hasan (auto selection)
Mushfiqur Rahim (Ash can be another option, but since JS does not want two bolods in the team)
Mahmudullah Riyad (coming close to cement his place in the team, should be left alone)
Saghir Hossain (got to have a specialist keeper, and he is doing better than Dhiman in this role)
Shafiul Islam (got to have a pacer who can take wickets, and he is currently the best option)
Abdur Razzak (auto selection)
Nazmul Hossain (stop gap option, hope he can at least be economical)

I wouldn't mind this. Except for Ash instead of Aftab for now.

[M.H.Rubel]

Atleast Dhiman wont drop catches like Mushfiqur. Mushfiq has been dropping catches in almost every match in the recent matches against Zimbawe, we got away with it coz we were playing against weak teams but Mushfiq's misses are gonna cost us, in big matches. I have seen Mushfiq to even miss stumping chances on tp of dropping catches. In my opinion Siddons also finds Mushfiq's keeping ability not up to the mark, as it can be easily seen Dhiman has always been the better keeper. A keepers first priority should be keeping then batting, in Mushfiq's case its the other way around. If he wants to be in the team, he should only be used as a batsman.

Definately we need a good keeper in the team specially in spinning condition.I want a good keeper and Mushy as a specialist batsman now.
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[dark mage]

Siddons is awesome! loved how he crticised Aftab and Sharier Nafees. But most of all I loved it how he protected Raqibul Hossain when asked by the media, if Aftab should play in his place. Siddons replied that in his opinion, Aftab can never replace Raqibul who has always been a consistent performer since his debut and his partnerships are vital for the team. Then Siddons even said that how can a player(Aftab) who averages 25 in his ODI replace someone who averages 30?(Raquib), according to Siddons if Aftab does come in as a replacement, he can only replace Ashrful as Siddons said a player who averages 25 can only be compared with another player who averages close to him , in this case Ashraful whose average is 23., Siddons also said he can only bear the weight of either one of these inconsistent players in the playing 11 and will not support the inclusion of both these stupid "Eid-Innings" players. Its in today's prothom-alo. I LOVE OUR COACH. Atlast someone had the guts to tell what we have always felt about these so-called talented "young" players who in reality are now veterans of many matches but can only play a good innings once-in-a-blue-moon and unfairly keep ther place in the team over other consistent performers like Raqibul. I hope the moronic selectors agree with Siddons as the paper said that the selectors might disagree with him. What can I say apart from the fact that our selectors are as stupid as the ignorant masses with little cricketing sense and are satisfied with one or two flashy innings while they tend to overlook the crucial partnerships Raquib makes with Saquib in the the middle order and they also fail to see how many times those partnerships has salvaged our team from the edge of the abyss? How can they even think to replace a solid batsman like Raquib with a batsman who averages less than a #10 batsman and usually plays a cameo of 27 from25 balls and then gets out? Who will build the partnerships? Siddons is correct. I too agree with him, Aftab should only replace Ash or vice versa(personally I feel Ash is better than Aftab despite his low average because Ash atleast has won us matches unlike Aftab and Ash seems to be getting abit more consistent), we dont need both of these morons in the team, Sharier Nafees should replace Junaeed, Kapali can replace either Mahamudullah or Naeem(I will prefer if he replaces Mahamudullah, as I think Naeem is more effective), Dhiman can/cannot repace Mushfiq. The best thing about outr coach is, he has got nothing to hide and says what he thinks and all our national players love him be it Saquib, Raquib, Naeem or Tamim, they almost always praise Siddons and acknowledge how his guidance helped to improve their skills.

[Foozy]

... But most of all I loved it how he protected Raqibul Hossain when asked by the media, if Aftab should play in his place. Siddons replied that in his opinion, Aftab can never replace Raqibul who has always been a consistent performer since his debut and his partnerships are vital for the team. Then Siddons even said that how can a player(Aftab) who averages 25 in his ODI replace someone who averages 30?(Raquib), according to Siddons if Aftab does come in as a replacement, he can only replace Ashrful as Siddons said a player who averages 25 can only be compared with another player who averages close to him , in this case Ashraful whose average is 23., Siddons said he can ony bear the weight of either one of these in consistent players in the playing 11 and will not support the inclusion of both these stupid "Eid-Innings" players. Its in today's prothom-alo. ... Atlast someone had the guts to tell what we have always felt about these so-called talented "young" players who in reality are now veterans of many matches but can only play a good innings once-in-a-blue-moon and unfairly keep ther place in the team over other consistent performers like Raqibul. ...What can I say apart from the fact that our selectors ...are satisfied with one or two flashy innings while they tend to overlook the crucial partnerships Raquib makes with Saquib in the the middle order and they also fail to see how many times those partnerships has salvaged our team from the edge of the abyss? How can they even think to replace a solid batsman like Raquib with a batsman who averages less than a #10 batsman and usually plays a cameo... and then gets out? Who will build the partnerships? Siddons is correct. I too agree with him, Aftab should only replace Ash or vice versa,

:up:

Kapali can replace either Mahamudullah or Naeem(I will prefer if he replaces Mahamudullah, as I think Naeem is more effective).

:down: By the same afore-mentioned logic provided by yourself, while agreeing to Siddons; I concur!


The best thing about outr coach is, he has got nothing to hide and says what he thinks and all our national players love him be it Saquib, Raquib, Naeem or Tamim, they almost always praise Siddons and acknowledge how his guidance helped to improve their skills.

:up: The above mentioned names are the ones who actually listen to him and learn from what he has to say. I believe some of our players either don't understand him, or don't listen to him.

[auntu]

Then again, we do have guys like Robin and Nazmul in the squad. They are still crap, but at least we have the option of not exposing newcomers to the brutal koshais that the Indian and Sri Lankan batsmen have become.

I don't think a spin-friendly pitch will help - we need something that will keep low to the point of awkwardness. Basically, a really really crappy ODI pitch where anything can happen and 160 is the par score.

Realistically I see no win. Real tough situation for the kids. :-P

[BANFAN]

I think the 15 man squad will look something like this

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Zunaed
3. Ashraful
4. Roqibul
5. Shakib
6. Naeem
7. Mahmudullah
8. Abdur Razzak
9. Mushfiqur Rahim
10. Nazmul Islam
11. Syed Rasel
12. Imrul Kayes/Shahriar Nafees
13. Shafiul Islam
14. Saghir Hossain (if Mushfiq fails to recover fully, as back-up keeper)
15. Dollar Mahmud/Enamul Haque Jnr.

I'm sure there will be atleast 2 iclers in the 15 man squad, if not 3.

[hfctapnsm]

math is fixed:-)
Mehrab done nothing but our selector like him. Btw he is now excluded
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Thank you! Finally someone realize that Mehrab is not fit for ODI or 20/20 format. i saw him in one of the 20/20 appearance he made against Wes Indies this kid bat like test format and also against south Africa. He hardly can carry his bat. I don’t know what the selectors see in him let to be desire. These groups of selector are bias somewhat. Their let more players who play way batter than this gay wad and somehow they are being selected. Either, they suck dick or bribe them. That how Bangladesh works
I hear people say Bangladesh is a democratic country. What kind of democracy is this? Last 29 years two families are ruling the country. Power pass down from mother to son kid of sound like monarchy. U are me don’t or our kids don’t have a chance. lol i was kind of bored.
:callme::flag:

[fais]

I think the 15 man squad should look something like this

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Ashraful
4. Roqibul
5. Shakib
6. Naeem
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Abdur Razzak
9. Mahbubul Alam
10. Nazmul Hossain
11. Syed Rasel/Rubel hossain
12. Shahriar Nafees
13. Shafiul Islam
14. Saghir Hossain
15. Mahmudullah.

The playing 11 should be the top 11. I strongly feel that a 3 pace attack is essential - a gud bowler who takes out a top/middle order batsman is equivalent to scoring 30 runs or more.

[Equinox]

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=117749
It is a privilege, remember that
Nader Rahman

December is a month that holds a special place in the hearts of all Bangladeshis, it is a month in which we remember all those who fought and gave their lives for this country. It is a month that stirs nationalistic feelings even amongst those who tends to forget. It is also a month where one must remember that the privilege to represent ones country should be cherished and treasured, it is a gift whose true worth few people understand. This month a host of players who turned their backs on the country for the lure of money were reintegrated into our national cricket team and many patriotic Bangladeshis have been overheard saying, "We're better off without them."

Whether that is the truth or not is debatable, but the sentiment is one that is understood and has been echoed around the country. But where does one go from here? At any given time the best 11 players must represent Bangladesh on the playing field, but what qualities are we measuring them by? The players returning from the ICL have opened up a completely new debate about the basis of selection that no one can look away from. Before they came back with their tails between their legs the only criteria for selection was a player's performance on the field.

But since their return that selection criteria has been questioned, can runs, wickets and catches alone be the yardstick to select a player? What about dedication, commitment and love for ones country, shouldn't those be thought of before a player is selected? If that is the case then reintegration for the ICL players will be a lot more difficult than they think.

To select them a few months after they infamously left their country in the lurch would be an abomination. It would be a slap in the face of every cricketer who toils away day after day in the hope that one day he might represent his nation on the field of play. Those who left for the ICL took that feeling for granted, they took their nation for granted and now they want to continue as if nothing ever happened. In International cricket there have been numerous difficult cricketers, they have been drunks, womanisers and liars but selectors continued to stick with them because after everything was said and done they would have died on the field for their respective countries.

When the selectors look at the ICL players can they honestly say the same thing? Do they think that the players that defected (we are calling them defected cricketers because they have resigned en masse from the national team which has not been the case with any other country) not so long ago have all of a sudden turned over a new leaf and are now willing to give everything for their country? It would take a brave man to say yes.

Runs, wickets and catches should of course be the primary criteria for selection, but without commitment and a love for ones country, there is no way a player will be able to represent it properly.

A few weeks ago when Bangladesh took on Zimbabwe at home, Shahriar Nafees was spotted at an ice cream parlour in Banani. He walked in, pony tail, beard and all looking like a desi version of Robin Hood. As he entered a tall strapping man well known to cricketing community in Bangladesh greeted him with a pat on the back, he asked him what he'd like to eat, but Nafees politely declined, instead paying for his ice cream himself. They stood and chatted idly and as it so happened that day Bangladesh beat Zimbabwe in Mirpur, with Shakib blitzing a century of 70 odd balls. The tall man asked him if he saw the game and the match-winning century, to which Nafees replied nonchalantly, "I didn't even know there was a game on." With that dismissive reply he bid his adieu and left. If that is how he feels about the national team he was once part of and now seems set to join again then all one can say is, "we're better off without them."

[Fazal]

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=117749


is this the same reporter who few days back published that Biman was beaten badly by Kola Bagan?

I think Nader Rahman should spent more time watching the game, instead of investigating who is having a ice cream who is not.

[auntu]

I'm sure there will be atleast 2 iclers in the 15 man squad, if not 3.
SN and Aftab? Or Dhiman if Mushy's injury is bad enough.

[SS]

is this the same reporter who few days back published that Biman was beaten badly by Kola Bagan?

I think Nader Rahman should spent more time watching the game, instead of investigating who is having a ice cream who is not.

Not sure if the reporting was done based on personal view or opinion, but no matter what a cricketer needs to know that he is representing a country. SN obviously has some ego but they can not deny what they did to our national team once they left all together. The new players did decent job to fill that gap, in future we should not allow any more of similar activities when young minds can be corrupted and lure to offers without thinking of what duties they are assigned to. If they are not eligible to represent a nation when playing, what's the point of wasting a spot.

[Fazal]

In this country (USA), there is a difference between "Reporting" and "Editorial or Expressing a view point". When Reporting is mingled up with expressing a reporter's opinion in the same article, they loose in both end and crdibility becomes an issue. Even in investigative reporting (which may indicate some conclusion), the reporter abstain from his personal opinion. On the other hand, an editorial type article (or reporter's opinion) they can present their veiw point based on his own POV supported by current published/known news.

But in Banlgadesh, these reporters does both in same article, reveal new news (true or fabricated) and express their own opinion. And in my opinion there lies the basic problem, i.e. nullifiyng their facts even if it may be true.

[Antora]

This month a host of players who turned their backs on the country for the lure of money were reintegrated into our national cricket team and many patriotic Bangladeshis have been overheard saying, "We're better off without them."

To select them a few months after they infamously left their country in the lurch would be an abomination. It would be a slap in the face of every cricketer who toils away day after day in the hope that one day he might represent his nation on the field of play. Those who left for the ICL took that feeling for granted, they took their nation for granted and now they want to continue as if nothing ever happened

When the selectors look at the ICL players can they honestly say the same thing? Do they think that the players that defected (we are calling them defected cricketers because they have resigned en masse from the national team which has not been the case with any other country) not so long ago have all of a sudden turned over a new leaf and are now willing to give everything for their country? It would take a brave man to say yes

Yes! Yes! Yes! I love it!! Absolutely Love the above statements!!:flag:

[al Furqaan]

i question the authenticity of this SN report. not that SN wouldn't do something like that...but still.

oh well. as long as they perform, we can't complain.

[Murad]

JS said he might push Ash up 1 more if Tamim doesn't pass the fitness test before the Tri-series. (Source NTV)

[tonoy]

That might not be such a bad idea since ash is quite keen on opening as seen on the recent DPL performances.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Damn you JS, playing with our faint hearts like that! With MAM and ZS opening, we'll be 2 down in no time baby!

[Foozy]

This is the part where I totally get lost. I don't know what to believe. How can a national player not follow (let alone know) that a BD match is going on?

Any ways, lets see what Jamie does. This series is going to be a real disaster from the sounds of it unless Rokib, Sakib, Riyad, Nayeem can save our batting and Razzak and other spinners take on the bowling. The rest of the team is all over the place, unless Ash pulls off a blinder somehow.

[Fazal]

Ha Ha Ha... Junaid and Ashraful to open against India and Srilanka....... this time who will save Siddon's neck after the series?

I see after the series there will be demand for his resignation from all ends.

Ash will continue stay even with this self destructive experiment, but Siddon will take the heat ...and when Siddon goes...Junaid will follow him for good as he will loose his khamba.

Ash will regain his #3 slot with the argument, that it's all Siddon's fault in the first place..

[auntu]

Damn you JS, playing with our faint hearts like that! With MAM and ZS opening, we'll be 2 down in no time baby!

I hope that was passing by comment by JS:hairpull:

[fais]

In this country (USA), there is a difference between "Reporting" and "Editorial or Expressing a view point". When Reporting is mingled up with expressing a reporter's opinion in the same article, they loose in both end and crdibility becomes an issue. Even in investigative reporting (which may indicate some conclusion), the reporter abstain from his personal opinion. On the other hand, an editorial type article (or reporter's opinion) they can present their veiw point based on his own POV supported by current published/known news.

But in Banlgadesh, these reporters does both in same article, reveal new news (true or fabricated) and express their own opinion. And in my opinion there lies the basic problem, i.e. nullifiyng their facts even if it may be true.

I wud so like to believe that is true in the US - Fox News blend "news" and "opinions" and pure fabrication ALL the time (no not on a daily basis but on an HRLY basis) - so to be fair the US is a poor example

[BangladeshFan]

We should judge the team by the results against India and Sl, not some micky mouse results against 3rd string WI and Zimbo. If we cant win a game against India or Sl in our own grounds, we havent progressed a bit, rather we have gone backward.

[fais]

We are so in trouble = anybody see the scoreline b/w India and SL today - 414 and 411.
We can't reach those scores in Test matches let alone in an ODI.

[zainab]

We are so in trouble = anybody see the scoreline b/w India and SL today - 414 and 411.
We can't reach those scores in Test matches let alone in an ODI.

You are so right! Based on these scores,I dread to think that these boys will be slaughtered in the Tri series.

India and SL bat up to N0 7 spots with high scoring batsmen, especially Sehwag and Dilshan and now Sangakara has regained his form.

Anyhow, let's hope that the boys produce a good showing as this will be a real test for them unlike the WI and Zim series.

[saleheen]

For people that can't read Bangla, the 26 member provisional squad consists of -

Mashrafe Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Zunaed Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Saghir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh.
Among them Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, Dhiman Ghosh, Robiul Islam, Shafiul Islam, Saghir Hossain, Mahbubul Alam, Imrul Kayes, Enamul Haque Jr, Mehrab Hossain, Zunaed Siddique, Mashrafe Mortaza will be drafted.

[saleheen]

Finaly 14 member team will be Shakib Al Hasan (Captain), Mushfiqur Rahim (Vice Captain/WK), Mohammad Ashraful, Tamim Iqbal (if fit)/Zunaed Siddique, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Naeem Islam,
Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Syed Rasel, Dolar Mahmud, Rubel Hossain, Shahriar Nafees, Enamul Haque (Jr.)

[Fazal]

I wud so like to believe that is true in the US - Fox News blend "news" and "opinions" and pure fabrication ALL the time (no not on a daily basis but on an HRLY basis) - so to be fair the US is a poor example

I disagree with your opinion.

1) There is difference between TV and newpaper and how they deliver news. Washing Post (left), Washington Times (Right), NY Post (Right), NY Times (left) are better examples as they are the mainstream news media and they are newspaper.

2) Even In TV, ususally in the daily news, they don't they don't express their own view. I thin you are mixing up news with talk shows.

3) Fox channel is not the main stream TV media in real sense, they always goes to their edge... but then I rearly saw local Fox News, mingle news with their own opinion.

4) You are concentrating on one aspect of news i.e. political or International which is less than 10% of the news which can be debatable. But all the other aspects of the news (the rest 90%), I don't see mainstream news media give wrong information and for all type of news they rarely express their opinion so strongly.

5) Don't confuse with news i.e. reporting vs, talkshow or editorial where they express their opinion.

[saleheen]

For people that can't read Bangla, the 26 member provisional squad consists of -

Mashrafe Mortaza, Shakib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Abdur Razzak, Shahadat Hossain, Muur Rashfiqhim, Tamim Iqbal, Syed Rasel, Zunaed Siddique, Mehrab Hossain Jr, Roqibul Hasan, Mahmudullah Riyad, Enamul Haque Jr, Nazmul Hossain, Naeem Islam, Imrul Kayes, Mahbubul Alam, Rubel Hossain, Saghir Hossain, Dolar Mahmud, Shafiul Islam, Robiul Islam, Shahriar Nafees, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, and Dhiman Ghosh.
Among 14member squad will be:
1. Shakib Al Hasan (Captain)
2. Mushfiqur Rahmim (V.C) Wk.
3. Tamim Iqbal/Zunaed Siddique (If Tamim Iqbal fit)
4. Shahriar Nafees
5. Mohammad Ashraful
6. Roqibul Hasan
7. Mahmudullah Riyad
8. Naeem Islam
9. Rubel Hossain,
10. Shahadat Hossain
11. Syed Rasel
12. Abdur Razzak
13. Dolar Mahmud
14. Mehrab Hossain (Jr.)

[saleheen]

My 14 member squad are
1. Shakib Al Hasan (Captain)
2. Mushfiqur Rahim (V.C) Wk.
3. Shahriar Nafees
4. Tamim Iqbal/Zunaed Siddique ( I hope Tamim will recover soon)
5. Roqibul Hasan
6. Mohammad Ashraful/Aftab Ahmed
7. Naeem Islam
8. Mahmudullah Riyad
9. Abdur Razzak
10.Shahadat Hossain
11.Syed Rasel
12. Syed Rasel
13. Dolar Mahmud
14. Enamul Haque Jr/Mehrab Hossain Jr.

[fais]

I disagree with your opinion.

1) There is difference between TV and newpaper and how they deliver news. Washing Post (left), Washington Times (Right), NY Post (Right), NY Times (left) are better examples as they are the mainstream news media and they are newspaper.

2) Even In TV, ususally in the daily news, they don't they don't express their own view. I thin you are mixing up news with talk shows.

3) Fox channel is not the main stream TV media in real sense, they always goes to their edge... but then I rearly saw local Fox News, mingle news with their own opinion.

4) You are concentrating on one aspect of news i.e. political or International which is less than 10% of the news which can be debatable. But all the other aspects of the news (the rest 90%), I don't see mainstream news media give wrong information and for all type of news they rarely express their opinion so strongly.

5) Don't confuse with news i.e. reporting vs, talkshow or editorial where they express their opinion.

Firstly Fox News is the most watched "news" channel in the States - double CNN

Secondly I have seen enough Fox News e.g. coverage of health care reform, where they blatantly lie. So much so that a couple of weeks ago they used videos from a different protest (with high turnout) to demonstrate the popularity of the current protest in discussion.

Thirdly, top newspapers in the States always have opinionated articles when it comes to sport. So to regard BD journalism as poor because they have a journalist that has an opinion different to yours is misguided I feel (not that I think much of Nader Rahman as a journalist) .

[Fazal]

Firstly Fox News is the most watched "news" channel in the States - double CNN

Are you sure its news or talk shows? There is a differenc you know.




Secondly I have seen enough Fox News e.g. coverage of health care reform, where they blatantly lie. So much so that a couple of weeks ago they used videos from a different protest (with high turnout) to demonstrate the popularity of the current protest in discussion.

Again by coverage it means, news as welll as "talk shows". News coverage may be partial and favour one way or other (showing one side and not showing other side of the news), I rearly see they mingle these teo when they are "reporting news" vs expressing their strong/partial opinion in talk show. Plus as I said delivery mechanism between TV and newspaper is different. So comparing TV news and newspaper is kind of comparing with apple and oranges.



Thirdly, top newspapers in the States always have opinionated articles when it comes to sport. So to regard BD journalism as poor because they have a journalist that has an opinion different to yours is misguided I feel (not that I think much of Nader Rahman as a journalist) .

I think you are confusing with reporting and opinionated articles or editorial. here in newspaper you don;t combine those two. One may follow other, but don't messed up these two. And I am pretty sure they teach those in Journalism 101 in USA.

if Nader Rahman reported the incident without injecting his own opinion as a news and then later on he or someone wrote a opinionated articles and refered to that news, I would have disagreed with him and move on.... but he tried to do both and there by lost all his credibility as a reporter.

[Raynman]

Firstly Fox News is the most watched "news" channel in the States - double CNN

Secondly I have seen enough Fox News e.g. coverage of health care reform, where they blatantly lie. So much so that a couple of weeks ago they used videos from a different protest (with high turnout) to demonstrate the popularity of the current protest in discussion.

Thirdly, top newspapers in the States always have opinionated articles when it comes to sport. So to regard BD journalism as poor because they have a journalist that has an opinion different to yours is misguided I feel (not that I think much of Nader Rahman as a journalist) .

US Media has lost its 'journalism' factor for well over a decade now. Fox is blind right, MSNBC is blind left and CNN caters to the public opinion. No one just delivers the cold hard facts anymore. They are always tarred with opinion or skewed with bias.

Its pretty amazing that if you do the research you will find even simple things you believed to be true all your life is not as straight and narrow as you think.

[Tiger444]

I like Siddons approach a lot..he doesn't want to mess with a winning combo..i think however he should tinker a little with the lineup..I really like Zunaed a lot..hes a flashy opener who has got all the skills to be a very good player..he adds a different dimension to the batting lineup..he should definitely in the final squad..however he has been struggling so that opens up Nafees to come in.. i think we should leave the debate up to Siddons as to who he should play..i feel Big Z will come play and if he fails then SN can come in..and if ash struggles then they should consider bringing in Aftab since they are similar players..i like ash way better though because he has won matches for us unlike Aftab..that should really be it though..we have to remember that we have to keep a core group of guys for series after series..that way the players get used 2 each other and it is good 4 them..for the iclers they really have to prove to siddons because of them leaving the team without really telling him..remember if u do that professional sports of course the coach is gonna get mad..siddons definitely feels like these players quit on him and left him in the dust..so he had to go out and get these new players to rebuild but it really worked..remember we beat NZ and Sri Lanka and we were very competitive with them all throughout without the iclers..so its not just we beat zim and west indies 3rd string with this team..so looking at siddons view he's not very interested which i understand..of course iclers went 4 money..but morally leaving your team let alone your national team is not gonna make the coach happy..so what the iclers have to do is really work hard at practice and really have to show how committed they are before they have a shot being in the playing 11..i feel like SN and aftab can do it..

[wiseshah]

who is shafiul islam? any info about him. i heard his name for the first time, when i see him in the 26 squad.

where is raihan uddin arafat/--this guy never perform in A, under 19, DPL but some how he managed to get into academy team

[Raynman]

I like Siddons approach a lot..he doesn't want to mess with a winning combo..i think however he should tinker a little with the lineup..I really like Zunaed a lot..hes a flashy opener who has got all the skills to be a very good player..he adds a different dimension to the batting lineup..he should definitely in the final squad..however he has been struggling so that opens up Nafees to come in.. i think we should leave the debate up to Siddons as to who he should play..i feel Big Z will come play and if he fails then SN can come in..and if ash struggles then they should consider bringing in Aftab since they are similar players..i like ash way better though because he has won matches for us unlike Aftab..that should really be it though..we have to remember that we have to keep a core group of guys for series after series..that way the players get used 2 each other and it is good 4 them..for the iclers they really have to prove to siddons because of them leaving the team without really telling him..remember if u do that professional sports of course the coach is gonna get mad..siddons definitely feels like these players quit on him and left him in the dust..so he had to go out and get these new players to rebuild but it really worked..remember we beat NZ and Sri Lanka and we were very competitive with them all throughout without the iclers..so its not just we beat zim and west indies 3rd string with this team..so looking at siddons view he's not very interested which i understand..of course iclers went 4 money..but morally leaving your team let alone your national team is not gonna make the coach happy..so what the iclers have to do is really work hard at practice and really have to show how committed they are before they have a shot being in the playing 11..i feel like SN and aftab can do it..

Agree with most of what you said but just a couple of things that i wanted to say:

1. Siddon's needs to decide on Zunaid based on Zunaid alone. Not because he doesn't want SN back in the team. If he feels Zunaid is worthy of more chances, I can live with that but if he feels Z should not be given more chances but doesn't want to drop him to prevent SN in the team, thats something I have an issue with. If Tamim is not fit, that changes the whole equation and will most likely force a shakeup in the whole batting line up. A winning combo should not be drastically changed but at the same time a coach should not plant seeds of doubt that will make those next in line (no more ICL crap, they are part of the national fold now) question if they should be giving an effort or not.

2. Agree on Ash and Aftab but there is a litle room for change if Ash is seen as a better middle order all rounder instead of a top order batsman.

3. I am a huge fan of Shakib, Naeem, Riad but along with Ash and Razzak do we really need that many spinners? Shakib is an automatic choice and Razzak should be after the last series. Maybe to have better defined roles in the team we need to trim 1 from the other 3.

4. Keeping has to be a concern. Whether its Dhiman or Shaghir or whoever, how long can we keep Mushy behind the stumps without paying the price. His injury if it prevents him from keeping may turn out to be a blessing in diguise.

5. Pace is a huge concern. Do we keep Mash in mind and just keep playing 1 pacer to should we try 2/3 pacers keeping in mind that Mash may not be fit/good enough to come back to national fold again.

6. From a batting perspective Shakib and Rokib (35/30 avg.) should not be tinkered with and Naeem (30) surely deserves a push up the order (#6 perhaps, maybe even #3?). At some point surely Z and Ash will have to pay the price for their averages?

[Fazal]

Ha Ha Ha... Junaid and Ashraful to open against India and Srilanka....... this time who will save Siddon's neck after the series?

I see after the series there will be demand for his resignation from all ends.

Ash will continue stay even with this self destructive experiment, but Siddon will take the heat ...and when Siddon goes...Junaid will follow him for good as he will loose his khamba.

Ash will regain his #3 slot with the argument, that it's all Siddon's fault in the first place..

and now this from theDaily Star ...


It was terrible the way Mohammad Ashraful was bowled tried to play a scoop against pacer Tareq Aziz Khan in an early stage, especially when they lost an early wicket of his opening partner Shamsur Rahman who was also bowled by young paceman Shafiul Islam.


Still Siddon is thinking about experimenting with Junaid (retaining) and Ashraful (new role) as operners?

Then I have just one thing to say.... Siddon need to grow chagla dari so that he is easily recognized by looking at him .... what a real chagol he is.

[Spitfire_x86]

and now this from theDaily Star ...



Still Siddon is thinking about experimenting with Junaid (retaining) and Ashraful (new role) as operners?

Then I have just one thing to say.... Siddon need to grow chagla dari so that he is easily recognized by looking at him .... what a real chagol he is.
Let's assume, Ashraful = Junaid = Imrul = no good. No Tamim, and "Ashraful must play" leaves us with 2 options:

1. Junaid 2. Imrul 3. Ashraful
or
1. Junaid 2. Ashraful

Potenial 0/3 gets reduced to 0/2. If you have more faith in Rakib or anyone else who might bat in #3 in scenario 2 than these 3, doesn't that make scenario 2 a better option?

[fais]

well if we are lucky - imrul will replace ZS

[Fazal]

Let's assume, Ashraful = Junaid = Imrul = no good. No Tamim, and "Ashraful must play" leaves us with 2 options:

1. Junaid 2. Imrul 3. Ashraful
or
1. Junaid 2. Ashraful

Potenial 0/3 gets reduced to 0/2. If you have more faith in Rakib or anyone else who might bat in #3 in scenario 2 than these 3, doesn't that make scenario 2 a better option?

These are not the only options that we have.

Plus the problem with Junaid, Imrul, Ashraful are not similar.

Junaid is off form both in national team as well as DPL. So the possibility of his failure is pretty big.

Imrul is not tested enough in national team. But his DPl form is not that bad.


Where both Junaid and Imrul is in long trm operner meterial, Ashraful is not, not even with his form. he will try his scoop shot in the first over agains FB because he made up his mind and felt that need to use it.

SN made a real good case to start at #3. Now Rahim is playing as opener in DPL, may be a little late now, but he is better than Junaid/Ash combo. Then we ahve Aftab who can consistently give is 30+ run with real good RR playing very comfortably against FBs compared with Ash's fancy and areial shots that he prefer when he opens up to score runs.

So I see lots of other options in #1 to #3 adn alos I don;t see Junaid == Ash == Imrul.

[SS]

Now it's good time for Jalal to take his revenge for the slap...if he can slap Motin so hard it will be easier for the selector to choose from the provisional squad...

[shuziburo]

Are you sure this is a pic of robiul islam? he sounds like he's Moslem, but he is wearing "rakhi" - it could be a fashion thing I suppose...

An astute observation. BTW, the correct spelling is "Muslim" and NOT "Moslem" or any other variant. It is originally an Arabic word; one of its meanings is one who has submitted (to God).

[Tiger444]

Agree with most of what you said but just a couple of things that i wanted to say:

1. Siddon's needs to decide on Zunaid based on Zunaid alone. Not because he doesn't want SN back in the team. If he feels Zunaid is worthy of more chances, I can live with that but if he feels Z should not be given more chances but doesn't want to drop him to prevent SN in the team, thats something I have an issue with. If Tamim is not fit, that changes the whole equation and will most likely force a shakeup in the whole batting line up. A winning combo should not be drastically changed but at the same time a coach should not plant seeds of doubt that will make those next in line (no more ICL crap, they are part of the national fold now) question if they should be giving an effort or not.

2. Agree on Ash and Aftab but there is a litle room for change if Ash is seen as a better middle order all rounder instead of a top order batsman.

3. I am a huge fan of Shakib, Naeem, Riad but along with Ash and Razzak do we really need that many spinners? Shakib is an automatic choice and Razzak should be after the last series. Maybe to have better defined roles in the team we need to trim 1 from the other 3.

4. Keeping has to be a concern. Whether its Dhiman or Shaghir or whoever, how long can we keep Mushy behind the stumps without paying the price. His injury if it prevents him from keeping may turn out to be a blessing in diguise.

5. Pace is a huge concern. Do we keep Mash in mind and just keep playing 1 pacer to should we try 2/3 pacers keeping in mind that Mash may not be fit/good enough to come back to national fold again.

6. From a batting perspective Shakib and Rokib (35/30 avg.) should not be tinkered with and Naeem (30) surely deserves a push up the order (#6 perhaps, maybe even #3?). At some point surely Z and Ash will have to pay the price for their averages?

Good points there raynman..as usual your writing is very good

1. The thing is, he lays that out that he made 50 run partnerships with tamim in the article..i feel like he actually likes that from Zunaed..so basically it seems like he doesn't mind him hitting a 10 ball 20 or a 20 ball 30..it seems that he wants Zunaed to attack so that tamim has time to settle to go for a big score..also it seems that he likes Zunaed a lot more than SN..because if u guys dont remember he benched SN for the last 2 games in the pak series in favor of Zunaed..then in the asia cup he was benched the whole time there as well..so it seems he wants Zunaed there..again i think SN has to really work hard in practice and give that extra effort if he wants to be in the play 11 to get Siddons trust again

2. No matter what..whether we like it or not..Ash will be our #3..that has not changed and since we are winning Siddons will not want to change it..everyone brings it up that Ash needs to go lower but he is always going to be our #3..if Ash fails then Aftab will come in for the place of Ash at #3..i feel like that will be siddons plan..

3. Yes I agree..do we need all those spinners? Agree that Shakib and Razzak have to be our automatics but what to do with Riyad and Naeem when we need extra pacers? I feel like neither of them should be dropped..Riyad has been performing in domestics and in the national team as well and same with Naeem..I would honestly keep both of them in the team as well..because how about we have a collapse? I feel like they can take us to respectable scores..if our top order fails..

4. Yes keeping from Mushfiq has been bad..but unfortunately he's the best we got as a keeper batsman..if we were sri lanka or india we could afford just a keeper but in our fragile batting lineup we really need a good keeper batsman and mushfiq seems to have the best balance in terms of keeper batsman

5. Most probably Mash will not play..So I feel like we need just 2 pacers on our pitches because our wickets tend to be slow anyways..so why not just depend on spin? We have to play to our strengths and spin is our strength..i would use nazmul and rasel as our pacers since they have the best control out of all our pacers besides mash..

6. At the end of the day Ash and Big Z are coming under scrutiny..in our last series ash had an average of an 18 which is pretty poor and Big Z had an average of an 11..but in the zimbabwe series before this 1.. Big Z had an average of a 28 while Ash had an average of a 37 which are both very good..so i would give them another shot and see whether they deliver this series..

7. And all the people who think Raqibul is too slow or boring or whatever look in to the stats..the series in Zimbabwe he had the 2nd best avg behind tamim..yes he had an even better avg than shakib..he had an avg of a 45 which is very good espicially for a BD batsman..and for the last series? he had an average of a 38.66 which is pretty much a 39..which was third best on the team behind shakib and naeem..i just dont know why people want him dropped..he beat shakib even in 1 series and then tamim in another so doesn't that he is one of most important in our team? Seems like people just want a dhoom dham team rather then a responsible team..

[Raynman]

Tiger444,

(now these types of constructive arguements are worth the time to get into and I thank you for that)

There's two approaches to team building. The current approach seems to be the 'backup method' as in lets select these players in case these players fail. I am of the belief that having the safety net hinders the progress of the players. The team should have a defined role from position 1 to 11 and everyoe should be responsible and be rewarded or punished based on their performances.

Bashar, SN, Kapali, Aftab (not picking them because of ICL but as recent national players) lost form, performed poorly and got the axe even though at that time there did not seem to be a suitable replacement. The replacements worked out and we got exposure for players like Naeem, Rokib, Riad that may not have otherwise.

The current batch needs to feel the same pressure that they are disposable if they don't perform. I was one of the defenders of Zunaid after the series in ZIM because of his partnerships with Tamim (you can read my so how did they do post) but I stopped backing him after the series at home. He seems to have lost his confidence (based on watching him play) and his numbers in DPL suggest he hasn't recovered it yet either.

So if Zunaid needs to go, someone needs to come in and fill the void. Now if Siddons has favoritism (he is entitled to) let him pick Imrul or Rony or someone else he feels is qualified. But if SN is the logical choice, its retarded to not drop Zunaid because Siddons doesn't want SN in the team.

I have accepted that I will retire from work (I still have a good 30+ years I hope unless I win the lottery) before Ash will be out of the BD team. But one can still hope. Its one thing to fast 30 days for an eid but another to fast 6 months for the hope of an eid.

At the end of the day I will support the red and green in whatever format and whoever the opposition and the XI players that are on the scorecard. I like the new aggressive captaincy nature of Shakib and I really like the energy displayed by the likes of Mushy (though he needs relief from the gloves. As hard as he tries his height will always prevent him from being world class), Naeem, Tamim, Riad, Razzak and Nazmul. But at the end of the day if there are those in the pipeline that can help and those in the current XI that are not peforming, changes must be made.

[Tigers_eye]

If there was anyway to rack Tiger444, I would rack his post. (Any west coast Jim Rome (sports radio) show listener here?) Quality post.

Raqibul squashed everyone's doubt of being 'off form' in DPL. Just scored 83 the other day.

[Fazal]

Rahim can wear Khorom to overcome his height issue...

[Fazal]

Tushar just scored 80 someting against strong Modon team.

Does that mean, Tushar has some hope... may be.... may be after tri series masacre....

[Tiger444]

Tiger444,

(now these types of constructive arguements are worth the time to get into and I thank you for that)

There's two approaches to team building. The current approach seems to be the 'backup method' as in lets select these players in case these players fail. I am of the belief that having the safety net hinders the progress of the players. The team should have a defined role from position 1 to 11 and everyoe should be responsible and be rewarded or punished based on their performances.

Bashar, SN, Kapali, Aftab (not picking them because of ICL but as recent national players) lost form, performed poorly and got the axe even though at that time there did not seem to be a suitable replacement. The replacements worked out and we got exposure for players like Naeem, Rokib, Riad that may not have otherwise.

The current batch needs to feel the same pressure that they are disposable if they don't perform. I was one of the defenders of Zunaid after the series in ZIM because of his partnerships with Tamim (you can read my so how did they do post) but I stopped backing him after the series at home. He seems to have lost his confidence (based on watching him play) and his numbers in DPL suggest he hasn't recovered it yet either.

So if Zunaid needs to go, someone needs to come in and fill the void. Now if Siddons has favoritism (he is entitled to) let him pick Imrul or Rony or someone else he feels is qualified. But if SN is the logical choice, its retarded to not drop Zunaid because Siddons doesn't want SN in the team.

I have accepted that I will retire from work (I still have a good 30+ years I hope unless I win the lottery) before Ash will be out of the BD team. But one can still hope. Its one thing to fast 30 days for an eid but another to fast 6 months for the hope of an eid.

At the end of the day I will support the red and green in whatever format and whoever the opposition and the XI players that are on the scorecard. I like the new aggressive captaincy nature of Shakib and I really like the energy displayed by the likes of Mushy (though he needs relief from the gloves. As hard as he tries his height will always prevent him from being world class), Naeem, Tamim, Riad, Razzak and Nazmul. But at the end of the day if there are those in the pipeline that can help and those in the current XI that are not peforming, changes must be made.

Thanks raynman and tiger_eye for the nice comments..responding to you raynman..yes zunaed did do bad last series..and he's not helping his cause in the dpl..i agree with what you said..if you don't' perform then your dropped..SN has definitely earned his spot in the team..now its all up to him to pounce on the chance if he's in the final 11..of course he has it harder now but it's easy to get your trust back with a coach..if i were SN..i would go 2 siddons and keep on asking him how he can improve his batting..if you show you care about improving for the team then the coach will obviously like you..i think SN has to do just that and if he does..then siddons will forget about the past and will work with SN..i don't think siddons will be upset with SN forever..i also feel like siddons doesn't necessarily care if your the most talented cricketer..he just cares if you work hard in practice and keep on trying to improve..

[riankhan]

Thanks raynman and tiger_eye for the nice comments..responding to you raynman..yes zunaed did do bad last series..and he's not helping his cause in the dpl..i agree with what you said..if you don't' perform then your dropped..SN has definitely earned his spot in the team..now its all up to him to pounce on the chance if he's in the final 11..of course he has it harder now but it's easy to get your trust back with a coach..if i were SN..i would go 2 siddons and keep on asking him how he can improve his batting..if you show you care about improving for the team then the coach will obviously like you..i think SN has to do just that and if he does..then siddons will forget about the past and will work with SN..i don't think siddons will be upset with SN forever..i also feel like siddons doesn't necessarily care if your the most talented cricketer..he just cares if you work hard in practice and keep on trying to improve..

I do believe you! I think we should let him do his job as he is bringing us improvements.
I dont think he takes all decisions alone (chacha, selectors, Captain etc).

and now this from theDaily Star ...

It was terrible the way Mohammad Ashraful was bowled tried to play a scoop against pacer Tareq Aziz Khan in an early stage, especially when they lost an early wicket of his opening partner Shamsur Rahman who was also bowled by young paceman Shafiul Islam.



Ash cant just control his mind (poor mental fitness). It is a known fact that a batsman can improve little after the age of 25+ (with little exceptions). But as he will be in the team anyhow, so I just pray that he improves, nothing we can do but praying...:hairpull:

[kalpurush]

Thanks raynman and tiger_eye for the nice comments..responding to you raynman..yes zunaed did do bad last series..and he's not helping his cause in the dpl..i agree with what you said..if you don't' perform then your dropped..SN has definitely earned his spot in the team..now its all up to him to pounce on the chance if he's in the final 11..of course he has it harder now but it's easy to get your trust back with a coach..if i were SN..i would go 2 siddons and keep on asking him how he can improve his batting..if you show you care about improving for the team then the coach will obviously like you..i think SN has to do just that and if he does..then siddons will forget about the past and will work with SN..i don't think siddons will be upset with SN forever..i also feel like siddons doesn't necessarily care if your the most talented cricketer..he just cares if you work hard in practice and keep on tryinচ to improve..
:up: চমৎকার এবং সঠিক বলেছেন বাঘ৪৪৪ ভাই।


[নাফিসের উচিত আশরাফুলের মত কঠিন অনুশীলন করা (তৈল মর্দন সহ!)];):)

[Eshen]

http://dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=11&dd=2009-12-20&ni=3319

Declaration of the final squad for the tri-series will be delayed to assess fitness situations of SN, Aftab, and Tamim. The squad will be declared 3/4 days before start of the series.

Selectors want to wait till last possible moment for Tamim to get fit.

They pretty much made up their minds (or BCB bosses did that for the selectors) to recall SN and Aftab, but fitness of ICLers is still in question. So SN and Aftab will be also given max amount of time possible to get fit.

[auntu]

Rahim can wear Khorom to overcome his height issue...
But he should bat at the top order. He is one of the finest in the lineup at present. He should not bat lower than no. 4 position.

[Eshen]

But he should bat at the top order. He is one of the finest in the lineup at present. He should not bat lower than no. 4 position.
Yeah, let him bat in top 4 in NZ series, he will be a walking wicket for Shane Bond.

[nahaz]

Yeah, let him bat in top 4 in NZ series, he will be a walking wicket for Shane Bond.

haha..so true! He will have to bat at No.6 or 7. He gets a lot of runs batting with the tail unlike anyone else, so you want him close to those guys. He can't play the fast bowlers, so no chance of being in the top 3.

S Nafees also cannot seem to play quality swinging bowlers, so he shouldn't open..maybe No.3. Imrul's in fine touch, and has also been consistent domestically. Siddons should spend some time with him and make him the opener instead of wasting time with Zunaed for now.

I strongly think we need to play both Mahbubul Alam and Rubel in this series. Rubel has bowled superbly in the few matches he played in DPL, with a great SR &/or ave. He will be the main strike bowler. Alam has good control and has also been one of the highest wicket takers. He can be playing identical role as Mashrafee in recent times. then again, Nazmul did do well recently, and Rasel hasnt failed many times. One of them could be a 3rd pacer at the expense of Razzak/Riad/Naeem.

Ash should bat down the order where it suits him, at No. 5/6. Aftab should be Imrul's partner if Tamim isn't fit, tho I can see Siddons going wit Imrul/Zunaed combo..they're friends too, so understanding between them should be good.

[kalpurush]

haha..so true! He will have to bat at No.6 or 7. He gets a lot of runs batting with the tail unlike anyone else, so you want him close to those guys. He can't play the fast bowlers, so no chance of being in the top 3.

S Nafees also cannot seem to play quality swinging bowlers, so he shouldn't open..maybe No.3. Imrul's in fine touch, and has also been consistent domestically. Siddons should spend some time with him and make him the opener instead of wasting time with Zunaed for now.

I strongly think we need to play both Mahbubul Alam and Rubel in this series. Rubel has bowled superbly in the few matches he played in DPL, with a great SR &/or ave. He will be the main strike bowler. Alam has good control and has also been one of the highest wicket takers. He can be playing identical role as Mashrafee in recent times. then again, Nazmul did do well recently, and Rasel hasnt failed many times. One of them could be a 3rd pacer at the expense of Razzak/Riad/Naeem.

Ash should bat down the order where it suits him, at No. 5/6. Aftab should be Imrul's partner if Tamim isn't fit, tho I can see Siddons going wit Imrul/Zunaed combo..they're friends too, so understanding between them should be good.
All options are open...:)

[nahaz]

All options are open...:)

Sorry, I can't really decide the batting options at this stage. But with regards to bowling, I think Mahbubul and Rubel are the man, tho not many others rate rubel that highly. What's your view on this?

[Nafi]

Time for RR attack

In Robin and Rubel we trust. They are the future.

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/378755.html

Our best pace attack - Mash-Robin-Rubel

[Eshen]

Time for RR attack

In Robin and Rubel we trust. They are the future.

Robin, at best, can provide three good overs. Then he will be taken to cleaners by Indian and Lankan batsmen.

Rubel is still so raw, he will be taken to cleaners by Indian or Lankan openers from word go.

In current situation, Shafi-Naz is our best pair to pick.

[Tiger444]

Mahbubul Alam is definitely not one of our best pacers..maybe in the test fold but in the ODI fold he is way 2 expensive..i mean even look at that sri lanka game..he was pretty expensive and got only 1 wicket..he bowls way 2 many extras so let him be in consideration just for tests..for ODI's we need an attack of Mash-Nazmul-Rasel..those are our 3 best pacers and they all have the best control as well..rubel is way 2 young and raw..let him develop 1st..if mash is unhealthy still then go with Nazmul and Rasel attack and rest with spin..

[Ajfar]

for right now, nazmul should be our number 1 choice, and then we need to find someone else to share the new ball with him. nazmul might not have a good record against G8 teams, but he's been opening with the ball for the last 2/3 series, and i think he should continue to do so. for the 2nd pacer, we need someone who can actually finish their entire quota, Rubel/Robin at best will give you 3 good over, and then will get taken to the cleaners by IND/SL top order.

[Eshen]

[বাংলা]জাতীয় দলের অনুশীলন ২৬ ডিসেম্বর থেকে

প্রিমিয়ার ক্রিকেট লিগ আজ শেষ হলেও জাতীয় দলের ক্রিকেটারদের ব্যস্ততা কমছে না। ভারত-শ্রীলঙ্কাকে নিয়ে আগামী ৪ জানুয়ারি থেকে শুরু ত্রিদেশীয় হোম সিরিজের জন্য বাংলাদেশ দলের মূল প্রস্তুতি শুরু হবে আগামী ২৬ ডিসেম্বর থেকে। এর আগে লিগ শেষ হওয়ার পর ২৫ তারিখ পর্যন্ত চার দিনের ছুটি কাটাবেন ক্রিকেটাররা।

ত্রিদেশীয় সিরিজের সব ম্যাচই যেহেতু দিবারাত্রির, অনুশীলন এবার ফ্লাডলাইটের আলোতেই হবে বলে জানিয়েছেন জাতীয় দলের সহকারী কোচ খালেদ মাহমুদ। অনুশীলন-সূচিতে আছে দুটি প্রস্তুতি ম্যাচও। ২৬ ডিসেম্বর ফ্লাডলাইটের আলোয় হওয়ার কথা ৫০ ওভারের প্রস্তুতি ম্যাচ, ২৮ ডিসেম্বরের ম্যাচটি ৩০ ওভারের। প্রাথমিক দলে থাকা ক্রিকেটাররাই দুদলে ভাগ হয়ে খেলবেন ম্যাচ দুটি।

বিসিবি সূত্রে জানা গেছে, প্রস্তুতি ম্যাচ দুটিতে খেলার সম্ভাবনা আছে ইনজুরি-আক্রান্ত মাশরাফি বিন মুর্তজার। কয়েক দিন ধরেই প্র্যাকটিসে পূর্ণ রানআপ আর গতি নিয়ে বল করছেন মাশরাফি। ত্রিদেশীয় সিরিজে খেলানোর শেষ চেষ্টার অংশ হিসেবেই প্রস্তুতি ম্যাচে তাঁকে খেলানোর চিন্তাভাবনা চলছে বলে জানা গেছে।

ত্রিদেশীয় সিরিজের জন্য ২৬ সদস্যের প্রাথমিক দল দেওয়া হয়েছে আগেই। দু-এক দিনের মধ্যে ১৪ সদস্যের চূড়ান্ত দলও দেওয়ার কথা। সূত্র জানায়, চূড়ান্ত দলে চলে আসতে পারেন আইসিএল-ফেরত এক বা একাধিক ক্রিকেটার। মিরপুর শেরেবাংলা স্টেডিয়ামে বাংলাদেশ-শ্রীলঙ্কা ম্যাচ দিয়ে শুরু হবে ত্রিদেশীয় সিরিজ।[/বাংলা]

http://prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2009-12-21/news/26691

[fais]

if imrul kayes performs today i say we give him zunaid's opening slot

[Murad]

Mash ke niye ora emon kortese keno? Ore na khelaile ki hobe? Are they after his career or something? They should keep him out of the national team for atleast next 3/4 months.

[Purbasha T]

[বাংলা]পূর্ণ রানআপ এবং গতি?

হুমমম!!![/বাংলা]

[Eshen]

Mash ke niye ora emon kortese keno? Ore na khelaile ki hobe? Are they after his career or something? They should keep him out of the national team for atleast next 3/4 months.
3/4 months?! May be not. But we should definitely save him to destroy England next March.

[kalpurush]

Sorry, I can't really decide the batting options at this stage. But with regards to bowling, I think Mahbubul and Rubel are the man, tho not many others rate rubel that highly. What's your view on this?
As you said, RBX (Rubel) might be the key to hunt India / SL in the upcoming Tri-Series, IMO also. :)

[kalpurush]

for right now, nazmul should be our number 1 choice, and then we need to find someone else to share the new ball with him. nazmul might not have a good record against G8 teams, but he's been opening with the ball for the last 2/3 series, and i think he should continue to do so. for the 2nd pacer, we need someone who can actually finish their entire quota, Rubel/Robin at best will give you 3 good over, and then will get taken to the cleaners by IND/SL top order.
Nazmul and RBX (if Rasel is not 100% fit)...

[auntu]

[বাংলা]পূর্ণ রানআপ এবং গতি?

হুমমম!!![/বাংলা]
[বাংলা]পড়েই টেনশন লাগছে। আবার নতুন কোন ধরনের ছাগলামী হচ্ছে নাকি কে জানে?[/বাংলা]

[Foozy]

Nazmul and RBX (if Rasel is not 100% fit)...

I am of the same opinion. Nazmul definitely gets a nod this time around. And with him should be Rasel - but only if he is 100% fit. Do not want to hear all those excuses again. If he is not fit, we can have Rubel and that should be just fine.

We do not have any better option, and Rubel can get some experience from this as well.

[Equinox]

So there is a faint chance that Mash may play in the tri-series?

[Raynman]

Well the final 14/15 list should come out within the next couple of days:

I'm guessing (not necessarily my preference, just what common sense and selection pattern dictates)

Automatic : Shakib, Razzak, Rokib, Naeem, Riad, Ash
Unless ruled out for injury then automatic : Tamim, Mushy, Mash

From ZIM squad of Oct :

Good performance : Enamul, Nazmul
Poor performance : Rubel, Zunaed, Dolar

Thats probably 10 of the 14 right there. It'll be interesting to see who else makes the cut.

[bd fan]

I think the best team for ODIs on a greeninsh, slow, low sporting Dhaka wicket is:

1. Tamim Iqbal (presuming he is fit)
2. Naeem Islam plays an aggressive role eg 20 ball 30 to take pressure off Tamim who will play a long innings
3. Shariah Nafees
4. Roqibul hasan
5. Shakib al hasan
6. Mahmudullah (If there is a batting collapse Mahmud and Mushy can take bd to a respectable total)
7. Mushfique Rahim
8. Mashrafee Mortaza (providing he is fit)
9. Abdur Razzak
10. Nazmul hossain
11. Enamul Haque

[kalpurush]

I think the best team for ODIs on a greeninsh, slow, low sporting Dhaka wicket is:

1. Tamim Iqbal (presuming he is fit)
2. Naeem Islam plays an aggressive role eg 20 ball 30 to take pressure off Tamim who will play a long innings
3. Shariah Nafees
4. Roqibul hasan
5. Shakib al hasan
6. Mahmudullah (If there is a batting collapse Mahmud and Mushy can take bd to a respectable total)
7. Mushfique Rahim
8. Mashrafee Mortaza (providing he is fit)
9. Abdur Razzak
10. Nazmul hossain
11. Enamul Haque
For tri-series do we need both Razzak and Enamul Jr. in the playing squad?!:doh:
And, where is Ash?!!


Don't look back... selectors are on hunt!!!?;)

[kalpurush]

Well the final 14/15 list should come out within the next couple of days:

I'm guessing (not necessarily my preference, just what common sense and selection pattern dictates)

Automatic : Shakib, Razzak, Rokib, Naeem, Riad, Ash
Unless ruled out for injury then automatic : Tamim, Mushy, Mash

From ZIM squad of Oct :

Good performance : Enamul, Nazmul
Poor performance : Rubel, Zunaed, Dolar

Thats probably 10 of the 14 right there. It'll be interesting to see who else makes the cut.
Selector's 14...!?
Tamim
Zunaid
Ashraful
Riqibul
Shakib
Mushfiq
Riyad
Naeem
Razzak
Nazmul
Rasel
Mashrafee
Nafees
Rubel

[yaseer]

I do not think selectors going to make much changes. At best Shahriar Nafees may be included which is also unlikely. Seems JS backing Junaid and selectors backing SN. Just need to wait to see who wins.

[kalpurush]

I do not think selectors going to make much changes. At best Shahriar Nafees may be included which is also unlikely. Seems JS backing Junaid and selectors backing SN. Just need to wait to see who wins.
I have both of them in my squad!;)

[Gowza]

SN is hard to fit in unless you want him to open or want to drop ash, personally i want to see imrul given a few more chances as opener before trying anyone else and if SN is going to play put him at #3 but chances are that they'll push SN into the opener spot.

[yaseer]

I have both of them in my squad!;)

Actually it is possible. You do not have Dollar and Enamul jr. from the last squad that played against ZIM (If i remember correctly). Actually SN can replace any of the of above two. Also you have Mashrafee in your team who is not going to play. Shafiul has a place to fill-up there.

[kalpurush]

Actually it is possible. You do not have Dollar and Enamul jr. from the last squad that played against ZIM (If i remember correctly). Actually SN can replace any of the of above two. Also you have Mashrafee in your team who is not going to play. Shafiul has a place to fill-up there.
It seems "they" want to play Mashrafee in the 3rd or 4th ODI in the tri-series if Mashrafee does well in the pracrice matches on December 26/27th. And You might be also right on Shaiful. I think Enamul Jr. has no place for the tri-series, instead we might see him in the Test against India. :)

[Eshen]

BCB changed its mind again, the practice match on the 26th will be between two teams from the 26 member squad, not against MSC.

http://www.samakal.com.bd/details.php?news=18&action=main&menu_type=&option=single&news_id=36101&pub_no=199&type=

[wiseshah]

so national team XI vs rest of players.

tamim-------------shahriar nafees
junaed-------------imrul kayes
ashraful------------aftab
rokibul-------------alok kapali
shakib--------------mehrab jr
mushfiq------------Dhiman/sahagir
mahmudullah------dollar mahmud
naeem---------------shafiul/robiul
mashrafe------------rubel/shahadat/robin
razzaq----------------enam jr
najmul----------------rasel

[auntu]

bcb changed its mind again, the practice match on the 26th will be between two teams from the 26 member squad, not against msc.

http://www.samakal.com.bd/details.php?news=18&action=main&menu_type=&option=single&news_id=36101&pub_no=199&type=
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[zainab]

Hope that Shariar Nafees and Aftab Ahmed will be in the final squad, they should be given a second chance to represent BD. How can you fans forget that lovely six by Aftab to beat the Aussies, even though Ash was the main guy.