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chinaman
January 17, 2004, 08:56 AM
LONDON (AP) -- Here's a fashion tip sure to make female soccer players uncomfortable: The sport's chief suggests they slip into something a little tighter on the field.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter said women should consider wearing more revealing uniforms, such as skimpier shorts, to bring more attention to the game. At least one top player called the advice "ridiculous" and "irresponsible."

Blatter said women's soccer needs different sponsors from the men's game and should try to attract fashion and cosmetics companies by featuring "more feminine uniforms."

"Tighter shorts, for example," Blatter told the Swiss newspaper SonntagsBlick. "In volleyball the women also wear other uniforms than the men. Pretty women are playing football today. Excuse me for saying that."

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Hasib
January 18, 2004, 10:41 PM
Disgrace

reinausagi
January 19, 2004, 04:39 PM
Well now, that didn't take long. In the realm of 'open mouth-insert foot', David Hookes retires, Sepp Blatter takes over without missing a beat...

Sami
January 19, 2004, 04:46 PM
ummm... blatter gone crazy... :|

fab
January 19, 2004, 09:10 PM
It's a wonder how idiots like Sepp Blatter can become presidents of such large organisations..

Where are the women's lib army when you need them?

Navarene
January 20, 2004, 08:49 PM
Sepp Blatter : a hedonic pompous patriarchal fool!

fab
January 20, 2004, 08:56 PM
But if you look at it commercially, he does have a point.
Yes, it commercially brings attention to women's soccer for all the WRONG reasons! (further perpetuating ridiculous gender myths that thousands of women have worked very hard to abolish)

Hasib
January 20, 2004, 09:33 PM
This guy is worse then Hookes... at least Hooksy apologised!

Carte Blanche
January 21, 2004, 06:33 AM
Don't be so harsh on him, get him a pack of viagra, next morning he will take his remark back. He is very old, after all.

Navarene
January 21, 2004, 11:58 AM
"I see all around me women trying to look attractive, spending thousands if not millions to have thier bust line increased and face to be beautiful. And for what? If I am not a naive hermit, I suppose they (women) do it only to be found attractive to men."

Do women fashion themselves only to be found attractive to their opposite sex? I thought that it was a very NATURAL instinct of a person, irrespective of sex, to make himself/herself attractive and beautiful to satisfy his/her own aesthetic mind at the first place.

Female desire of making themselves more sexually attractive is a contagion caught from the projection of male LUST. No wonder Mr. Slepp Blatter and those who support him in this context are the typical victims of patriarchal male chauvinism.

fab
January 21, 2004, 11:18 PM
You think sexism is natural and so we should not try to abolish it? Well racism is also "natural" (natural selection and all that), so maybe we shouldn't try to eradicate racism either!

It is not a prerequisite for men to look sexy and attractive on the field, so why should it be the case for women? That is what I meant when I said it will attract attention for all the WRONG reasons.
At least they should have a chance to talk their hearts content as they have nothing to show!
.. But I also don't support the cries of not so good looking women who are ashamed of their bodies. What?? You think women who fight for women's rights do so because they are ugly? Now THAT is typical male chauvinism. If this is your attitude then I have nothing more to say and am sorry that I commented in the first place.


[Edited on 22-1-2004 by fab]

Tehsin
January 22, 2004, 12:39 AM
I thought the story was someone's idea of a joke at first. I am kind of surprised by the defense. What happened to common sense and decency ?

Sepp should come out and apologize. If anyone needs to see women in tight uniforms, they have plenty other options.

reinausagi
January 22, 2004, 02:40 PM
Nascer:

You didn't have to go so far as to delete your previous post. But, the fact that you did shows that you are a class act. Not for a moment did I think you were being a chauvanist. Your body of work on this forum speaks positively, for itself.

Nasif
January 22, 2004, 03:10 PM
LOL, that the only thing I have to say! :D What a joke.

fab
January 22, 2004, 09:02 PM
It meant to be a sarcastic post on my part as to point out the sheer absurdity of the whole affair of women wearing tighter uniforms.
I see. Well the sarcasm was lost on me because of your previous post agreeing with the dude. Anyhow, since you were joking I apologise and withdraw my accusation.

Orpheus
January 25, 2004, 05:59 AM
I don't know why you ladies are complaining (some man? too). I mean if Beckham can be a sex symbol .... I wanna see some shapes of Brandi Chastain. She generated a lot of attention to women soccer after that 99 victory - taking her jersey off. That was awesome. ooo and those volley shots... damn this guy is brilliant!

If Bangladesh is ever in Women WC. I want ban on shorts. Cover as much as possible. Have you seen that girl in Bend it like Beckham... aww disgusting!

Carte Blanche
January 25, 2004, 06:06 AM
That's because she had a burn when she was a child.

Navarene
January 25, 2004, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Orpheus
I don't know why you ladies are complaining



now who are all these ladies?:-/

Orpheus
January 25, 2004, 11:44 AM
Beside you, there are 2 more!

Navarene
January 25, 2004, 01:13 PM
wild guess! seems like you're pretty much concerned about gender issue.

Shubho
February 17, 2004, 12:48 AM
sexy women in skimpy uniforms...hell...i'm all for it, as long as they can choose to wear the baggier kind. :P

but seriously, blatter's got some serious problems.

AsifTheManRahman
February 17, 2004, 12:53 AM
Blatter's a pervert

Arnab
February 23, 2004, 12:39 AM
I like watching women's voleyball. I'd kill for a girlfriend with that kind of stamina and flexibility. And those fantastic long legs!! Drooool.

Now women footballers are another story. They should stick to decisions like showing off their bra after scoring a goal (like Mia Hamm) or posing completely nude in magazines and sell them (like the Australian women's soccer team). Hey, It's their own choice. Don't mess with a women's liberty to expose herself.

chinaman
February 23, 2004, 01:42 AM
.. like Mia Hamm


If I remember correctly it wasn't Mia (WC Final). Forgot actual player's name.

Orpheus
February 23, 2004, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by Orpheus
I wanna see some shapes of Brandi Chastain. She generated a lot of attention to women soccer after that 99 victory - taking her jersey off.

If you talking about this, then it's Brandi.

Arnab
February 23, 2004, 08:45 AM
Ah yes! Brandi it is then. She should have had her name written on her bra.

fab
February 23, 2004, 11:41 PM
must.... resist.... replying.... to.. ignorant... posts...

Hasib
February 24, 2004, 04:33 AM
Just ignore them... they r older than me... but behave immaturely...

Sami
February 24, 2004, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by Hasib
Just ignore them... they r older than me... but behave immaturely...

LOL.... hahahahahah.... ;) HAHAHAH.... cant stop laughing....

[Edited on 25-2-2004 by radicalsami]

Mridul
February 24, 2004, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Arnab
Don't mess with a women's liberty to expose herself.

so would u consider the women u know (relatives+nonrelatives)?..if they wanna expose theirselves infront of public..would u welcome them to do so(..liberty to expose herself)...or would u protest?

[Edited on 24-2-2004 by Mridul]

Orpheus
February 24, 2004, 03:26 PM
Mridul tomar boyosh koto? **** dekho nai konodin?

You have two choices:
-Ekta signboard niye... rastai ber hou... othoba
-Kazaa thike regina download koro..

I am sure you not gonna think of your relatives if you do the latter! :)

Nasif
February 24, 2004, 04:10 PM
Orph: tumi chhotto shonamonider noshto kore felteso!

Hasib
February 25, 2004, 03:44 AM
@ school its only the immeture 8s and 9s who talk like that... and some of the 10s

Mridul
February 25, 2004, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Orpheus
Mridul tomar boyosh koto? **** dekho nai konodin?

You have two choices:
-Ekta signboard niye... rastai ber hou... othoba
-Kazaa thike regina download koro..

I am sure you not gonna think of your relatives if you do the latter! :)


...show respect to Women...when u dont want ur relatives to expose theirselves in public...then why do u want other women to expose theirselves?...cuz they r not ur relatives?....

Carte Blanche
February 25, 2004, 04:05 PM
Hahaha Orphy. Mridul bhai, orphy is just joking. When we check women out, we don't think of our relatives. Shobai jodi ma-bon hoy, biye korbo kake? ;)

Carte Blanche
February 25, 2004, 04:09 PM
I think I heard a line like that in some Dhallywood movie. When a villain tries to rape the Nayika, the girl screams "shoytaaaan... amar ijjot niye nibi tui? tor ghore ki ma bon nei?" ... haha.

Bit irrelevant but it reminded me of this line from a recent movie "Monster". Charlize Theron displayed amazing acting skills in that flick. She plays the role of a serial killer hooker. This one night she was hooking, with an old guy in his car. The guy started telling her "come here, come to daddy". She kinda wondered why she has to call him daddy. So she blurted out "Daddy? Do you f*** your kids?"... I don't recall the exact lines, but it was something like that.

Mridul
February 25, 2004, 04:25 PM
Shobai jodi ma-bon hoy, biye korbo kake? ;)

r shoabi jodi already 'slept with someone'...biye korben kake?....

...my point is...women should not expose theirselves infront of public...especially men.....men got tempated then....there r ppl who could not resist their temptation and commit adultry....and there r ppl who can resist themeselves....the less women will expose theirselves....the less situation of adultry/fornication/rape will be occured...

...to get married..u need to check out girls....but check out girl's what?....check out their physical beauty only?...not their manner/behaviour?....i dont think anybody will let his wife to flirt/sleep...with other men...after marriage

....i apologize...if i am being harsh in my speech

Arnab
February 25, 2004, 06:13 PM
If a girl is physically good looking and plays sports, chances are that she takes very good care of her body to remain fit. Chances are that she maintains cleanliness and has good eating and exercising habits. Chances are that having sex with her will be very enjoyable. Chances are that she will give birth to a healthy child.

Now that's just the physical part of the equation. Obviously she has to be intelligent and emotionally mature. But since I can't realistically take Brandi out to dinner to have a decent chat with her, I don't care about those factors. But that's not gonna keep me from appreciating her right to flaunt her own body if she wants to. :)

Navarene
February 25, 2004, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Mridul


...my point is...women should not expose theirselves infront of public...especially men.....men got tempated then....there r ppl who could not resist their temptation and commit adultry....and there r ppl who can resist themeselves....the less women will expose theirselves....the less situation of adultry/fornication/rape will be occured...



Burkha By Farhad Mazhar


O Lord, my girlfriend does not wear a burkha

She tells me, those who are faithful

They never look at a woman's body with evil eyes

They gaze only with Allah’s pure eyes

Only the lechers and unfaithful shout for burkha.

Let Allah put a black blindfold on their impure sight.

What is your judgment?

Look, the tailor eagerly awaits your answer

Crafty business plans: he waits with scissors and cloth

Waiting to turn on the sewing machine at your order.

Think it over, not bad - this idea of mine

Men wearing sharp clothes, all the airs

Even a prayer cap.

But the imbecile walks with a black blindfold

In the streets, not a burkha in sight

But people easily see

Who is the lecher and who is the faithful.

(a translation from original Bangla. The bangla goes on like this:

"Amar bandhobi probhu burkha pore na, morey koy
Jara porhesgar tara kobhu nareer shorir
Ku-nojore noy, dekhe allah'r shorif noyone,
Luccha O lompot jara tarai keboli burkhar
Ojuhat toley. Allah dik kalo kaporer
Potti bedhe ei shob purusher napak nojore"....etc

[Edited on 26-2-2004 by Navarene]

AsifTheManRahman
February 25, 2004, 08:37 PM
umm...
There are guys like Habibul_fan...etc...etc...who are still under age...isn't it a good idea not to discuss these things in their presence?

fab
February 25, 2004, 10:00 PM
LOL excellent poem Nav - this guy is a genius! How much much simpler it would be if all men could be blind folded instead.

But in all seriousness, last weekend the temperature reached around 42 degrees Celcius here (around 108 F), and I just thought how on earth the women in the Middle East can go around wearing black burkhas, head to toe, in such stiffling heat. To ask people to do that is just.. cruel. (And before anyone makes a comment - Air conditioning hasn't been around for that long)
:ninja:

Arnab
February 26, 2004, 06:25 PM
, isn't it ironic how Brandi cannot celebrate in the same manner as Pape Diop. If a man does it, it's because he scored the goal of his life, but if a woman does it, it's 'exposure'.. Sigh.. still living in medieval times I see.

That made no sense. Both the male and the female player exposed themselves after scoring goals. Both of them ALSO celebrated.

Fab, do you think women don't get excited as much watching a male player's naked upper body just as men do with female players?

If your answer is no, then it's probably the ladies' shortcoming to appreciate the male sexiness.

rafiq
February 26, 2004, 06:32 PM
Sorry to have missed this delectable thread when it was still fresh! Blatter really is an old dog but one has to chuckle at his attempt to turn an otherwise respectable sport into subject matter for a Playstation Women's Beach Soccer video game...

On Brandi Chastain and the uproar, much has been written, but I never understood why people were being so hypocritical in expressing their shock (I'm referring to Americans mostly). In a sporting context, women in sports bras is quite normal. After a hot & sweaty game of soccer the first thing you want to do is take your shirt off, whether you are a man or a woman. And the stuff little kids wear on the streets these days makes all that hoopla with Chastain seem truly like oh so last century. I suppose that's progress.

I'm just glad I don't have to be blinfolded. ;)

rafiq
February 26, 2004, 06:40 PM
If you are asking men and women to be fair about whether they get excited or not watching the opposite sex play without a top, then fine. But something that should be remembered is that men and women play WITH a top, and will continue to do so. People will always check out sports stars of the opposite sex, that is human nature, but for the most part people are watching because they love the game. Having a top off is a brief moment that may come, or not, at the end of the game - surely you are not going to sit through a 90 minute match for the remote chance that Brandi is going to take off her shirt again? IN that case, just get a membership at the local gym!

fab
February 26, 2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Arnab
That made no sense. Both the male and the female player exposed themselves after scoring goals. Both of them ALSO celebrated. Erm - no. Just do a google on the media reaction of both cases. There was a lot of 'debate' about the actions of Brandi. Yet if and when a male does the same thing there is hardly a second thought. The very fact that you brought in the Brandi example as 'exposure' into this dicussion, proves my point.

fab
February 26, 2004, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by rafiq
I'm just glad I don't have to be blinfolded. ;)
Yes well, lucky for you guys that our prophet was not a woman.. ;)

Arnab
February 26, 2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by rafiq
If you are asking men and women to be fair about whether they get excited or not watching the opposite sex play without a top, then fine. But something that should be remembered is that men and women play WITH a top, and will continue to do so. People will always check out sports stars of the opposite sex, that is human nature, but for the most part people are watching because they love the game. Having a top off is a brief moment that may come, or not, at the end of the game - surely you are not going to sit through a 90 minute match for the remote chance that Brandi is going to take off her shirt again? IN that case, just get a membership at the local gym!

I am not quite sure whether anything after the first sentence of your post is addressed to me.

Hasib
February 28, 2004, 04:52 AM
this has been the top topic for football for a over a month... nothing on soccer going on?

chinaman
February 28, 2004, 11:00 PM
I split this thread and moved the posts relating to Veils to a new thread in the forget cricket forum.

The name of the new thread is "To Veil or Not To Veil".

Please let me know if you think any other post needs to be moved to that new thread.

Please post all veil related discussion in that new thread only. Thank you for your continuing co-operations and understandings.