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Eshen
February 11, 2010, 05:47 PM
We still have two practice matches to consider before making up our mind for ODI squad against England, but based on current performances this would be my team against England -

Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Mohammad Ashraful
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mohammad Mahmudullah
Shakib Al Hasan
Naeem Islam
Mohammad Mithun (WK)
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shafiul Islam

I would open bowling with Mash (provided he is fully fit) and Raz. Naeem would be my main bowler for middle overs with Mash, Raz, Shafi, and Shak chipping in. I would save Shak and Shafi for death overs.

Reserve: Zunaed Siddique, Raqibul Hasan, Syed Rasel, Suhrawardi Shuvo.

I would have preferred to see Raqib playing couple of rounds in NCL to gain his confidence back instead of warming the bench, but unfortunately his team Barisal is now out of NCL.

However, I highly doubt Mushfiq will be told to give up his keeping gloves. It's also likely that Zunaed will return as the #3, letting Ash go back to #4.

So, my predicted team is - Tamim, Imrul, Zunaed, Ashraful, Shakib, Mushfiq, Mahmudullah, Naeem, Mashrafe, Abdur Razzak, Shafiul.

wasi90lkv1
February 11, 2010, 05:57 PM
tamim
imrul
mushfiqur
mahmudullah
aftab
naeem
shakib
ashraful
mashrafe (should bowl during death overs)
shafiul (should bowl during death overs)
rubel (do not let him to bowl in the late overs).

Tigers_eye
February 11, 2010, 05:59 PM
Yesterday, NZ commentators hands down admitted that Rubel was fastest most consistant bowler and he fears nothing. :)

wasi90lkv1
February 11, 2010, 06:01 PM
we don't need new zealand commentators to prove that rubel is fast.

but i think he should not be bowling in the death overs, he can spoil a match.

he is effective in the early overs.

Eshen
February 11, 2010, 06:05 PM
I have to say I was impressed with Rubel yesterday, but I still don't think he will be a good option on Bangladeshi pitches against England. If management does not feel confident to open with Raz, they should let Rasel open with Mash.

nycpro96
February 11, 2010, 06:06 PM
How fast did Rubel reach yesterday?

Peace
February 11, 2010, 06:06 PM
Rubel should be the first name in BD bowling line up. period.

nycpro96
February 11, 2010, 06:07 PM
Shafiul's a really good find too. He is the intelligent bowler who takes wickets that Rubel sets up Shafiul for. Unlucky for Rubel but Shafiul's really good.

Yameen
February 11, 2010, 06:09 PM
How fast did Rubel reach yesterday?

I think he touched 145km/h a couple of times but didnt see the whole innings

nycpro96
February 11, 2010, 06:10 PM
I have to say I was impressed with Rubel yesterday, but I still don't think he will be a good option on Bangladeshi pitches against England. If management does not feel confident to open with Raz, they should let Rasel open with Mash.

Rasel is as trash as trash gets. I say 3 pace attack no matter what and if management decides to use two pacers, it'll be tough to let one of Rubel or Shafiul go. Mash should get the practice and if he doesn't bowl well, Shafiul/Rubel should get the nod in the international matches.

wiseshah
February 11, 2010, 06:56 PM
my XI

tamim
Imrul Kayes
aftab
mushfiq
sakib
mahmudullah
naeem
shohrawardi shuvo
mashrafe
shafiul
rubel

extra: razzaq, rasel, ashraful,najmul/shahadat

sadi
February 11, 2010, 07:04 PM
I don't think Mithun has done enough to justify a call to the national team. Shuvo should get a chance this time instead of Razzak.

Eshen
February 11, 2010, 07:56 PM
I don't think Mithun has done enough to justify a call to the national team. Shuvo should get a chance this time instead of Razzak.
Fair point. Call up Shahin Hossain then. Letting Mushfiq keeping the gloves turning out to be a very expensive option, lot more expensive than runs he scores.

AsifTheManRahman
February 11, 2010, 07:56 PM
Give us a slow low minefield - don't make a batting track. Then unleash the slow bowlers.

1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Mushfiq
4. Ashraful
5. Shakib
6. Mahmudullah
7. Nayeem
8. Mashrafe
9. Razzak
10. Rasel
11. Shafiul (better get his L&L right)

Gowza
February 11, 2010, 08:22 PM
We still have two practice matches to consider before making up our mind for ODI squad against England, but based on current performances this would be my team against England -

Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Mohammad Ashraful
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mohammad Mahmudullah
Shakib Al Hasan
Naeem Islam
Mohammad Mithun (WK)
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shafiul Islam

I would open bowling with Mash (provided he is fully fit) and Raz. Naeem would be my main bowler for middle overs with Mash, Raz, Shafi, and Shak chipping in. I would save Shak and Shafi for death overs.

Reserve: Zunaed Siddique, Raqibul Hasan, Syed Rasel, Suhrawardi Shuvo.

I would have preferred to see Raqib playing couple of rounds in NCL to gain his confidence back instead of warming the bench, but unfortunately his team Barisal is now out of NCL.

However, I highly doubt Mushfiq will be told to give up his keeping gloves. It's also likely that Zunaed will return as the #3, letting Ash go back to #4.

So, my predicted team is - Tamim, Imrul, Zunaed, Ashraful, Shakib, Mushfiq, Mahmudullah, Naeem, Mashrafe, Abdur Razzak, Shafiul.

not a bad team, ideally i'd like to find someone else instead of ash, maybe try mushy or raqibul at the #3 spot (not too confident in that though). otherwise consider dhiman for the gloves and shuvo/saqlain instead of razzak. i really wish alok would do some more bowling in domestics, we don't have enough leggy's so he should be bowling a few to give us an extra spin option if we want to call someone up to change/add variation. i would also consider playing rubel instead of the razzak/shuvo/saqlain option.

bura
February 11, 2010, 08:22 PM
1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Mushfiq
4. Shakib
5. Mahmudullah
6. Aftab/Ash (with a permission to throw arms at will-cause they are better of doing that)
7. Nayeem
8. Mashrafe
9. Razzak
10. Rasel
11. Shafiul (better get his L&L right)

al Furqaan
February 11, 2010, 08:53 PM
Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mohammad Ashraful
Mohammad Mahmudullah
Shakib Al Hasan
Naeem Islam
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shafiul Islam
Syed Rasel

yaseer
February 11, 2010, 08:55 PM
I would like to go with extra specialist spinner. Yes, in ODI also and would like BCB to make a slow pitch where England batsman can have all sorts of problem with their timing.

My Team:


Tamim
Imrul
Ashraful
Riyad
Mushfiq
Sakib
Nayeem
Shuvo/Enam jr (I prefer Shuvo, but criteria should be who is better bowler)
Mashrafee
Razzak
Shafiul/Rubel


-This team has 7 batsmen and 5 specialist bowlers, with Nayeem and Riyad is also there as bowling option. If Shuvo plays, batting goes even stronger with Mashrafee returning.
-Send Mushfiq to #3, if we are chasing a relatively small total. I would like to axe him as a keeper, but to play that extra spinner, we have to tolerate him behind the stumps.

Jesus87
February 11, 2010, 09:37 PM
We need a specialist keeper that's the bottom line. If a person behind the stumps keeps things tidy, it builds up pressure within the batsmen and thus they try to take less risk, remember Ross Taylor he probably figured it out that Mush was a terrible and pathetic keeper, in the first game he missed his stumping so he went on again in the 3rd time, fortunate for us that Mush did something finally.
My XI
1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Riyadh (better to take a risk, enough of Ash)
4) Mushfiq
5) Naem Islam
6) Rokibul (he will perform better than Ashraful as his average suggests)
7) Shakib
8) Dhiman
9) Mashrafe
10) Shafiul
11) Rubel

Haradhon
February 11, 2010, 10:25 PM
Imrul with a century in his records is the second opener. Ash is not gone; he needs a few overs and about 15 runs (a couple of 4's) to settle - I give him chance. If Mashrafee is fit, he replaces Rubel. Aftab is in for ODI's in place of Rakib. In the 3rd ODI we can try out one of new comers such as Mithun Ali, Mushie's wicket keeping is questionable.

Quasimodo
February 11, 2010, 11:03 PM
Tamim
Imrul
Mushfiq
Mahmudullah
Sakib
Naeem
Pilot
Shuvo
Rubel
Shahadat
Mashrafee

wasi90lkv1
February 11, 2010, 11:11 PM
Tamim
Imrul
Mushfiq
Mahmudullah
Sakib
Naeem
Pilot
Shuvo
Rubel
Shahadat
Mashrafee

why are you saying pilot should be included? he is done.

Quasimodo
February 11, 2010, 11:16 PM
why are you saying pilot should be included? he is done.

Pilot is the best keeper in the subcontinent... One extra batsman doesn't ever help us... Its either we'll get allout for 150 runs or score 250 for 6... We can afford to give up a batsman for a keeper that can save us many runs... He will also be an exceptional coach for any other keeper that might come into the team...

_Rafi_
February 11, 2010, 11:16 PM
I dont want to give Ash a single chance in top order. Either he has to bat lower middle order or to be dropped.
My team-
1)TIK
2)IK
3)Mushy
4)Riad
5)Shakib
6)FoolBabu(Ash/Alok/Aftab
7)Nayeem
8)Mithun (no.8 batsman doesnt necessarily to be a good batsman)
9)Shuvo/Raj
10)Mash
11)Shafiul
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Zeeshan
February 11, 2010, 11:59 PM
No Ashraful. It has to start somewhere...so why not start the dropping now.

Rough lineup...

1. Tamim
2. Kayes
3. Mushfiqur (wk)
4. Rok
5. Shakib (c)
6. Mahmuddulah
7. Naeem
8. [open]
9. Rubel
10. Shafiul
11. Shahadat

Will Mashrafe be fit? I am too lazy to look up the pitch for the first match to decide if Razzak should be in the lineup. Where is he, btw?

beshideshi
February 12, 2010, 12:20 AM
Tamim
Imrul
Zunayed
Riyad
Ash
Shakib
Mushfique
Nayeem
Mash
Razzak
Shafiul/Rubel/Shahadat

One thing i would hate to see is Rubel sacrificing pace for control, genuine quick bowlers are a rare breed, and even rarer in Bangladesh. I once thought he should cut down 10% pace to gain control, but after seeing him hit 142-3 four times an over, I have changed my mind. I hope he continues to bowl quick, control will improve as he develops. I hope to see a 150k bowler in BD team.

beshideshi
February 12, 2010, 12:23 AM
Pilot is the best keeper in the subcontinent... One extra batsman doesn't ever help us... Its either we'll get allout for 150 runs or score 250 for 6... We can afford to give up a batsman for a keeper that can save us many runs... He will also be an exceptional coach for any other keeper that might come into the team...

*if 7 batsmen can't, neither can 8 batsmen* This formula is slapped and kicked around in our team. How often have we seen no.8 saving our face, winning the game? I say play an extra batter in ODIs, test matches are a different case.

One World
February 12, 2010, 12:29 AM
Tamim, Imrul, Bashar, Aftab, Shakib, Zahurul/Shuvagoto, Riad, Anamul, Naeem, Shafiul, Rubel

If Ameer can for PAK why not Anamul for us, ASH made his debut century on 17

Quasimodo
February 12, 2010, 12:29 AM
*if 7 batsmen can't, neither can 8 batsmen* This formula is slapped and kicked around in our team. How often have we seen no.8 saving our face, winning the game? I say play an extra batter in ODIs, test matches are a different case.

How often is it that our keeper is to blame for letting a game go out of control... Most teams doesn't have 8 batsman... and besides... we're not one batsman away from being a good team... But we're one good keeper away from being a decent team... and who says that Pilot might not contribute 10-20 runs... Like i said before.. we need a KEEPER-BATSMAN... not a BATSMAN-KEEPER.

wasi90lkv1
February 12, 2010, 12:30 AM
Pilot is the best keeper in the subcontinent... One extra batsman doesn't ever help us... Its either we'll get allout for 150 runs or score 250 for 6... We can afford to give up a batsman for a keeper that can save us many runs... He will also be an exceptional coach for any other keeper that might come into the team...

are you joking, brother? pilot is the best keeper in the "subcontinent"? you can say he is the best keeper in bangladesh, do not say subcontinent.

how are you so sure pilot will perform well now as a keeper, like he used to?

Quasimodo
February 12, 2010, 12:31 AM
*if 7 batsmen can't, neither can 8 batsmen* This formula is slapped and kicked around in our team. How often have we seen no.8 saving our face, winning the game? I say play an extra batter in ODIs, test matches are a different case.

Besides... we dont play 8 batsman ever... we play 4: Tamim, Mushfiq, Riyad, and Shahadat... any other runs we might get are bonus...

Quasimodo
February 12, 2010, 12:32 AM
are you joking, brother? pilot is the best keeper in the "subcontinent"? you can say he is the best keeper in bangladesh, do not say subcontinent.

how are you so sure pilot will perform well now as a keeper, like he used to?

Brother, I am not joking... I have been watching cricket far too long to know what pilot is... and I'm not sure about his performing now, but I haven't seen his keeping go down when we axed him...

AsifTheManRahman
February 12, 2010, 12:37 AM
Brother, I am not joking... I have been watching cricket far too long to know what pilot is... and I'm not sure about his performing now, but I haven't seen his keeping go down when we axed him...
I agree with you, Pilot in his prime was actually the best keeper in the subcontinent.

Quasimodo
February 12, 2010, 12:48 AM
Its as if some people/players/fans holds grudges against players who are a bit on the older side. Being called a "promising" team... thats what we want to stay. A "promising team", which promises new players. We have to see what it is thats holding us back and try to solve that problem no matter how we can. We cannot be holding grudges against players of color/race/age/sex. Whatever we have to do, we should. As of now, its clear that mushfiq's keeping is leaking at the bare minimum 40-50 runs almost every game. Lets say Pilot gives up 10-20 runs. Thats 30 runs saved. And wouldn't we love a player that averages 30?... I dont have any power, or else I would definately take a look at pilot again.

Gowza
February 12, 2010, 12:50 AM
Tamim, Imrul, Bashar, Aftab, Shakib, Zahurul/Shuvagoto, Riad, Anamul, Naeem, Shafiul, Rubel

If Ameer can for PAK why not Anamul for us, ASH made his debut century on 17

not sure it's such a good idea to debut 2 players in the one match as well as bringing in bashar who hasn't been doing much in one-day cricket and hasn't played international cricket for ages as well as having aftab who has only just recently comeback to international cricket. don't forget shakib is also out of form with the bat, the 3-6 spots don't look too solid there and then at 8 you have a newbie.

One World
February 12, 2010, 12:56 AM
not sure it's such a good idea to debut 2 players in the one match as well as bringing in bashar who hasn't been doing much in one-day cricket and hasn't played international cricket for ages as well as having aftab who has only just recently comeback to international cricket. don't forget shakib is also out of form with the bat, the 3-6 spots don't look too solid there and then at 8 you have a newbie.

I like Ash more than any player in the team, but he will be no use against England. Aftab on the other hand will be a menace for them. Bashar will take the same spot as Rok does, with more gravity and familiarity with current BD pitches and condition and much more ease with his gritty nature. Against England stroke play never works. Remember we managed lowest score against them in WC 07. Anamul can be a valuable addition. He can replace the weak link of wicket keeping while can be a pinch hitter. At least will not cost a maiden during a PP.

Yes, the bad part is the other batsman which can be Ash or a newbie. Also I am not so a fan of Aftab's bowling. So there is no sixth bowler in case.

paagla
February 12, 2010, 01:24 AM
There are a lot of PPL keeping ASHRAFUL in their team. Really like to know, why do they think he should still be kept in the team.

paagla
February 12, 2010, 01:27 AM
Tamim
Kayes
Aftab/Rakib
Mushfiq
Sakib
Riyad
Naeem
Mash
Razzak/any other spinner
Rubel
Shafiul

Now, we have 5 specilist bowler and we don't have to depent too much on the part timers like Riyad. And since no more Mushy will do a better job than ASH

Gowza
February 12, 2010, 02:45 AM
There are a lot of PPL keeping ASHRAFUL in their team. Really like to know, why do they think he should still be kept in the team.

if they want a player who can play innings like ash why don't they go for alok kapali, the same with the bat but offers more with the ball. aftab is in the same situation as ash at this stage for me, i'm not going to trust aftab until he proves it, that means scoring huge domestic runs as when he gets chances in the national team scoring lots of runs (he's too experienced to waste time on if he's not going to perform from the get go really). neither aftab or ash are good enough to use as bowlers, really really surprised that soo many people think ash can be a viable bowling option in anyn format, best he is good for with the ball is bowling a couple of overs to try and break a tricky partnership.

dolcevita
February 12, 2010, 06:00 AM
No ash please unless he score a 100 against NZ
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Only1raz
February 12, 2010, 06:10 AM
Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayash
Farhad Hossain
Raqibul Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mahmudullah Riyad
Naeem Islam
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak/Suhrawadi Shuvo
Shafiul Islam
Rubel Hossain/Nazmul Hossain/Syed Rasel/Shahadat Hossain

dark mage
February 12, 2010, 06:18 AM
I just dont want either Aftab or Sharier Nafees on the team. Nafees has shown his technique is as poor as ever, while Aftab showed he is still as stupid as ever. Still plays recklessly and stil gets out cheaply outting the team in all sorts of trouble, like the 2nd ODI in NZ, hit 2 fours in one over then got out trying to hit another one. How can you rely on this type of batsman to play a big innings or bat at number 3? He doesnt build partnership, doesnt last long, gives away his wicket irresponsibly without even trying, why do we need him? I wish Raqib was back in form, but since he is out of form, I would prefer Kapali instead of Aftab, as atleast Kapali has shown he can play big innings, rotate the strike as well as take big hits, and he can also bowl handy leg-spins. However, I must say none of the ICLers have impressed me. My team ---

Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Alok Kapali/Ashraful
Raqibul/Alok Kapali
Shaqib Al-Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mahamudullah
Nayeem
Mashrafee Mortaza
Abdur Razzk/Shuvo
Shafiul Islam/Rubel

*I might be biased because I dislike Aftab alot :) especially when I saw he hasnt improved his approach to the game at all. Ash atleast tries to settle in and atleast shows the intention that he wants to stay in the wicket and not give his wicket away, but unfortunately for him, he gets a brain-freeze, most of the time. However, Aftab's brain is frozen from the beginnig, its like he is playing elementary school cricket without a care in the world. The only reason I keep Ashraful in the team, because recently he hasnt done that bad compared to other batsmen in the team in One-Days, but I really dont want to see Ash in the test-team. I still want Kapali to be given a shot back in international cricket, as I have said before Aftab is incapable of playing long innings against the G8 teams, (the 50 in T20 against the WI dont count as it wasnt a ODI)

nahaz
February 12, 2010, 06:40 AM
I'm tempted to bring in a proper keeper instead of Rakib/Aftab's spot...other option is to debut Shuvo who is a good spinner..and we then have 1.Sakib 2. Naeem 3.Shuvo 4. Riyad to kill the spin-weary English.

<b>
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. M. Ashraful
4. Mushfiq
5. Mahmudullah
6. Sakib Mia
7. Naeem Islam
8. Suhrawardi Shuvo
9. Shahadat Hossain
10. Rubel Hossain
11. Shafiul Islam
</b>

I am sure 4 spinners (inc. Riyad) is the way to go against the English line-up. This way we'd have 7 bowlers and 8 batsmen (take that NZ!) and a keeper with a guaranteed drop a match..hopefully he drops the bhua ones...

al-Sagar
February 12, 2010, 07:31 AM
too early to judge, but here is one suggestion

Tamim
Imrul
Sabbir (lets try someone new in place of ash/aftab, good attacking batsmen, and handy legspinner)
Mushfiq
Shakib
Riyadh
Naeem
Razzaq
Shahadat
Rubel
Shafiul

its a hard decision to drop one of the pace trio to give a chance to Mashrafe

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February 12, 2010, 07:49 AM
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Gowza
February 12, 2010, 07:51 AM
too early to judge, but here is one suggestion

Tamim
Imrul
Sabbir (lets try someone new in place of ash/aftab, good attacking batsmen, and handy legspinner)
Mushfiq
Shakib
Riyadh
Naeem
Razzaq
Shahadat
Rubel
Shafiul

its a hard decision to drop one of the pace trio to give a chance to Mashrafe

shahadat would be the pacer to make way for mash imo. reckon it's too early for shabbir, would give him a shot in the t20 team though.

kiriket
February 12, 2010, 07:52 AM
I believe A test team should be like this:

Tamim Iqbal
Junayed Siddiki
Nayeem Islam/ Jahurul Islam

Farhad Hossain
Mushfiqur Rahim
Sakib Al Hasan
Mahmudullah Riyad

Sohrawardi Shuvo or a pacer.
Mashrafe mortaza
Saqlain Shazib
Talha Jubair

Talha can bowl long spells and sorry for my 3 spinner line up, I am defensive.

Team for ODI will be very easy, pick any from u19, A or Academy team, will be better than some of the national team players.

nahaz
February 12, 2010, 08:19 AM
too early to judge, but here is one suggestion

Tamim
Imrul
Sabbir (lets try someone new in place of ash/aftab, good attacking batsmen, and handy legspinner)
Mushfiq
Shakib
Riyadh
Naeem
Razzaq
Shahadat
Rubel
Shafiul

its a hard decision to drop one of the pace trio to give a chance to Mashrafe

What's wrong with including Shuvo instaad of Sabbir or Razzak? I'd be dropping Shahadat for ODI if Mash comes back..

Quasimodo
February 12, 2010, 12:37 PM
Why not:

Rony
Juhurul
Dickens
Farhad Hossain
Habibul Bashar
Asif Ahmed
Anamul Hoque
S Shuvo
S Sajib
Sharif
Talha
Shubashis

wasi90lkv1
February 12, 2010, 12:51 PM
Why not:

Rony
Juhurul
Dickens
Farhad Hossain
Habibul Bashar
Asif Ahmed
Anamul Hoque
S Shuvo
S Sajib
Sharif
Talha
Shubashis

only 2-3 players i know from here. tell me how these players deserve spots in the national team (over shakib, tamim, mahmudullah, rubel and mushfiqur)?

Tigers_eye
February 12, 2010, 12:52 PM
Why not:
...
Not so perfect for the practice game. Give all the crap players from the league so that England can't see what is coming in the real test.

I'd go with NCL Sylhet team with Alok captaining.

Tokai
February 12, 2010, 01:17 PM
In last game aftab showed he can be back to his old form soon. but you all must know what that is: a quickfire 30-35 at #3 to build the platform for the team. Never expect anything better from him. But, that is an important role nevertheless.

so, here is my team:

01 TIK
02 Imrul
03 Aftab
04 Mushifiq
05 Shakib
06 Ash
07 Mahmudullah
08 Naem
09 Mash
10 Shahadat
11 Saiful

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February 12, 2010, 01:21 PM
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One World
February 12, 2010, 01:22 PM
12th man aka drink carrier: nadim98:-D

Our head coach should be Chinaman :-D. For fielding I want ZeeshanM and bowling coach, Al Furqaan.

nahaz
February 12, 2010, 01:38 PM
For practice, do not give any spinners. We do not want them to get used to the wicket. Sakib already ruing the fact that they got a chance to practice on the actual ground before ODI. I'd say have a few good batsmen to find faults in their bowling but do not let them get used to the spin. Have any pacers you like..

AsifTheManRahman
February 12, 2010, 01:40 PM
Sakib already ruing the fact that they got a chance to practice on the actual ground before ODI.
That sucks, it just sucks. And no batting tracks please.

Zeeshan
February 12, 2010, 01:41 PM
All you guys who included Ash in the team should've written it in bold red ink lest you bicker about why the management doesn't enough actions to drop him. :smug:

Murad
February 12, 2010, 01:44 PM
For practice, do not give any spinners. We do not want them to get used to the wicket. Sakib already ruing the fact that they got a chance to practice on the actual ground before ODI. I'd say have a few good batsmen to find faults in their bowling but do not let them get used to the spin. Have any pacers you like..

That sucks, it just sucks. And no batting tracks please.

We are not playing any of the 3 ODIs in Fatullah right? Shakib complaining for nothing....

Both practice games will be played in Fatullah. And the 3-day practice game before the Test will be played in a different ground as well.

Tigers_eye
February 12, 2010, 01:46 PM
All you guys who included Ash in the team should've written it in bold red ink lest you bicker about why the management doesn't enough actions to drop him. :smug:
Top post of the thread. Hands down!!!

Eshen
February 12, 2010, 02:48 PM
All you guys who included Ash in the team should've written it in bold red ink lest you bicker about why the management doesn't enough actions to drop him. :smug:
I can do better Munshi, I can make argument why Ashraful is still irreplaceable in Bangladesh team (it's a sad fact, I know).

Miraz
February 12, 2010, 03:50 PM
Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Aftab Ahmed
Mohammad Ashraful (his last chance in international cricket)
Shakib Al Hasan
Mahmudullah Riyad
Mushfiqur Rahim
Naeem Islam
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shafiul Islam/Abdur Razzak
Rubel Hossain/Abdur Razzak


IMO, Razzak should be selected ahead of the 3rd pacer if we prepare spin friendly wickets (which we should definitely prepare).

Tiger444
February 12, 2010, 03:50 PM
I just dont want either Aftab or Sharier Nafees on the team. Nafees has shown his technique is as poor as ever, while Aftab showed he is still as stupid as ever. Still plays recklessly and stil gets out cheaply outting the team in all sorts of trouble, like the 2nd ODI in NZ, hit 2 fours in one over then got out trying to hit another one. How can you rely on this type of batsman to play a big innings or bat at number 3? He doesnt build partnership, doesnt last long, gives away his wicket irresponsibly without even trying, why do we need him? I wish Raqib was back in form, but since he is out of form, I would prefer Kapali instead of Aftab, as atleast Kapali has shown he can play big innings, rotate the strike as well as take big hits, and he can also bowl handy leg-spins. However, I must say none of the ICLers have impressed me. My team ---

Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Alok Kapali/Ashraful
Raqibul/Alok Kapali
Shaqib Al-Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mahamudullah
Nayeem
Mashrafee Mortaza
Abdur Razzk/Shuvo
Shafiul Islam/Rubel

*I might be biased because I dislike Aftab alot :) especially when I saw he hasnt improved his approach to the game at all. Ash atleast tries to settle in and atleast shows the intention that he wants to stay in the wicket and not give his wicket away, but unfortunately for him, he gets a brain-freeze, most of the time. However, Aftab's brain is frozen from the beginnig, its like he is playing elementary school cricket without a care in the world. The only reason I keep Ashraful in the team, because recently he hasnt done that bad compared to other batsmen in the team in One-Days, but I really dont want to see Ash in the test-team. I still want Kapali to be given a shot back in international cricket, as I have said before Aftab is incapable of playing long innings against the G8 teams, (the 50 in T20 against the WI dont count as it wasnt a ODI)

I think the same lines with you as well..i do like aftab though..hes a great timer of the ball and is a dangerous batsman like ash..but i believe aftab isnt going to become a good top order batsman..he just doesnt have the temperament..and its not like oh ya he will improve a lot just give him time..hes already played 80+ ODIs so by now he should know how 2 build an innings..he just goes way overboard..example 3rd ODI..that ball was there to be hit but when you have 18 from 12 balls already why go for that? I thought it was unnecessary..people here seem to like Aftab a lot more then Raqibul but I like Raqibul a lot better..Aftab can just trigger a collapse and him being a number 3 or 4 he could really be a problem if he doesnt get it going..Raqibul is out of touch right now but when he is in form he can stitch healthy partnerships with our other top order batsmen..i think that is way more important then hitting a 10 ball 20..i would much rather have a player who puts a price on his wicket rather then a guy who throws the kitchen sink at nearly every delivery..True that Raqibul does not accelerate and thats where he needs to improve but i believe hes a better solution at the top order compared to Aftab..I like Ash a lot 2..like aftab he can hit boundaries like anything but hes just way too inconsistent..unlike aftab though he does build his innings much better then aftab and at least attempts 2..i think alok should be only a lower order batsman as he can hit the ball a long way but he hasnt performed at all in domestics so he should definitely be left out..

Miraz
February 12, 2010, 03:55 PM
Shakib complaining for nothing....

And the 3-day practice game before the Test will be played in a different ground as well.

Nope!!

The 3 day practice match before the Test will be played in the same ground (ZACS) and Shakib has a very valid point here.

SS
February 12, 2010, 04:03 PM
Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Aftab Ahmed
Mohammad Ashraful (his last chance in international cricket)
Shakib Al Hasan
Mahmudullah Riyad
Mushfiqur Rahim
Naeem Islam
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shafiul Islam/Abdur Razzak
Rubel Hossain/Abdur Razzak


IMO, Razzak should be selected ahead of the 3rd pacer if we prepare spin friendly wickets (which we should definitely prepare).

Doc...do u have any insider info when the person in the bracket getting the final boot....

Murad
February 12, 2010, 04:10 PM
Nope!!

The 3 day practice match before the Test will be played in the same ground (ZACS) and Shakib has a very valid point here.

But it says "MA Aziz Stadium" in CI. Test will be played in Zohur Ch Stadium.

<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=630><TBODY><TR class=FixOtr><TD width="25%">Tue Feb 23
09:00 local | 03:00 GMT </TD><TD width="50%">Bangladesh Cricket Board XI v England XI
Narayanganj Osmani Stadium, Fatullah </TD><TD width="20%"></TD><TD width="5%" align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff height=1 width=630 colSpan=4></TD></TR><TR class=FixOtr><TD width="25%">Thu Feb 25
09:00 local | 03:00 GMT </TD><TD width="50%">Bangladesh Cricket Board XI v England XI
Narayanganj Osmani Stadium, Fatullah </TD><TD width="20%"></TD><TD width="5%" align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff height=1 width=630 colSpan=4></TD></TR><TR class=FixOdi><TD width="25%">Sun Feb 28
14:00 local | 08:00 GMT </TD><TD width="50%">1st ODI - Bangladesh v England
Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur </TD><TD width="20%"></TD><TD width="5%" align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff height=1 width=630 colSpan=4></TD></TR><TR class=FixOdi><TD width="25%">Tue Mar 2
14:00 local | 08:00 GMT </TD><TD width="50%">2nd ODI - Bangladesh v England
Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur </TD><TD width="20%"></TD><TD width="5%" align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff height=1 width=630 colSpan=4></TD></TR><TR class=FixOdi><TD width="25%">Fri Mar 5
09:00 local | 03:00 GMT </TD><TD width="50%">3rd ODI - Bangladesh v England
Zohur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium, Chittagong </TD><TD width="20%"></TD><TD width="5%" align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff height=1 width=630 colSpan=4></TD></TR><TR class=FixOtr><TD width="25%">Sun Mar 7 - Tue Mar 9
09:30 local | 03:30 GMT </TD><TD width="50%">Bangladesh A v England XI
MA Aziz Stadium, Chittagong </TD><TD width="20%"></TD><TD width="5%" align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff height=1 width=630 colSpan=4></TD></TR><TR class=FixOdi><TD width="25%">Fri Mar 12 - Tue Mar 16
09:30 local | 03:30 GMT </TD><TD width="50%">1st Test - Bangladesh v England
Zohur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium, Chittagong </TD><TD width="20%"></TD><TD width="5%" align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff height=1 width=630 colSpan=4></TD></TR><TR class=FixOdi><TD width="25%">Sat Mar 20 - Wed Mar 24
09:30 local | 03:30 GMT </TD><TD width="50%">2nd Test - Bangladesh v England
Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Miraz
February 12, 2010, 04:24 PM
But it says "MA Aziz Stadium" in CI. Test will be played in Zohur Ch Stadium.

<table width="630" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="FixOdi"><td width="25%">
</td><td width="50%">
</td><td width="20%">
</td><td width="5%" align="right">
</td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" width="630" bgcolor="#ffffff" height="1">
</td></tr><tr class="FixOdi"><td width="25%">
</td><td width="50%">
</td><td width="20%"></td><td width="5%" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" width="630" bgcolor="#ffffff" height="1"></td></tr><tr class="FixOtr"><td width="25%">Sun Mar 7 - Tue Mar 9
09:30 local | 03:30 GMT </td><td width="50%">Bangladesh A v England XI
MA Aziz Stadium, Chittagong </td><td width="20%"></td><td width="5%" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" width="630" bgcolor="#ffffff" height="1"></td></tr><tr class="FixOdi"><td width="25%">Fri Mar 12 - Tue Mar 16
09:30 local | 03:30 GMT </td><td width="50%">1st Test - Bangladesh v England
Zohur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium, Chittagong </td><td width="20%"></td><td width="5%" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="4" width="630" bgcolor="#ffffff" height="1"></td></tr><tr class="FixOdi"><td width="25%">Sat Mar 20 - Wed Mar 24
09:30 local | 03:30 GMT </td><td width="50%">2nd Test - Bangladesh v England
Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur</td></tr></tbody></table>

Murad, CI is wrong. Here's the official tour schedule from BCB.

Match Schedule

<table style="border: medium none ; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 5.4pt; background: black none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 59.4pt;" valign="top" width="79"> Date
</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; background: black none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 225pt;" valign="top" width="300"> Match
</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; background: black none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 1.25in;" valign="top" width="120"> Venue
</td> <td style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; background: black none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; width: 0.95in;" valign="top" width="91"> Start Time
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79">
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</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 0.95in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="91">
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79"> 23 Feb.
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 225pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="300"> England v BCB XI (Warm-up one-dayer)
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 1.25in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="120"> NOS, Fatullah
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 0.95in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="91"> 9am
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</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 225pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="300"> England v BCB XI (Warm-up one-dayer)
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 1.25in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="120"> NOS, Fatullah
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 0.95in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="91"> 9am
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79">
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</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 225pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="300"> Bangladesh v England (1st ODI) Day/Night
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 1.25in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="120"> SBNCS, Mirpur
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 0.95in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="91"> 2pm
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79">
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</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79"> 02 Mar.
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 225pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="300"> Bangladesh v England (2nd ODI) Day/Night
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 1.25in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="120"> SBNCS, Mirpur
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 0.95in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="91"> 2pm
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79">
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</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79"> 05 Mar.
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 225pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="300"> Bangladesh v England (3rd ODI)
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 1.25in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="120"> ZACS, Chittagong
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 0.95in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="91"> 9am
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79">
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</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79"> 07-09 Mar.
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 225pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="300"> England v Bangladesh A (3-day Warm-up Match)
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 1.25in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="120"> ZACS, Chittagong
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 0.95in; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="91"> 9:30am
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 59.4pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="79">
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</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(224, 223, 227) windowtext windowtext rgb(224, 223, 227); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 225pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="300"> Bangladesh v England 1st Test
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NOS: Narayanganj Osmani Stadium, Fatullah
SBNCS: Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium, Mirpur, Dhaka
ZACS: Zohur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium, Chittagong

Note: Start Time in BST (Bangladesh Standard Time) which is GMT+6.



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Murad
February 12, 2010, 04:29 PM
Thanks Miraz bhai. BCB sucks again!!!

Hope they change the venue before the game starts.

Equinox
February 12, 2010, 04:30 PM
Day Nighters?! Can anyone in Dhaka confirm whether dew will be a problem again?

My Squad:
Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Zunaed Siddique
Mushfiqur Rahim+
Shakib Al Hasan
Mohammad Ashraful
Mahmudullah
Naeem Islam
Mashrafe Mortaza*
Abdur Razzak
Shafiul Islam

Rokibul Hasan, Aftab Ahmed, Nazmul Hossain, Syed Rasel

Murad
February 12, 2010, 04:35 PM
It is a move that has provoked much debate about dereliction of duty and the risk Strauss is taking by standing aside, most recently from Shane Warne. England should win comfortably in Bangladesh, but there is potential for embarrassment, especially in the one-dayers, and if any part of the tour doesn't go to plan the heat will be on Strauss's decision.

"There's a huge amount of cricket to be played and he's decided he needs a rest and it gives me a massive opportunity to learn and get some experience in the role," Cook said. "Bangladesh are a hugely talented side at home and will be a tough nut to crack. We have to focus on playing good cricket but if we turn up and think we will win easily we will come unstuck."

http://www.cricinfo.com/engvbdesh2010/content/story/447997.html

AsifTheManRahman
February 12, 2010, 04:46 PM
I can do better Munshi, I can make argument why Ashraful is still irreplaceable in Bangladesh team (it's a sad fact, I know).
That's one of the reasons I named him in my XI. Who will replace him at this time? Rakibul? Good luck with that.

Much as I don't want Ashraful playing for us, I'd rather wait for someone else to really perform well and come in as a long term replacement in the long run.

Tigers_eye
February 12, 2010, 04:48 PM
Thanks Miraz bhai. BCB sucks again!!!

Hope they change the venue before the game starts.
It is not a big deal. They will play the 3rd ODI there. The key is making the practice pitch different than the test pitch. Creating confusion in enemy ranks - Jaez asey!!

:)

Tigers_eye
February 12, 2010, 05:04 PM
....

Much as I don't want Ashraful playing for us, I'd rather wait for someone else to really perform well and come in as a long term replacement in the long run.
How would you know there is not a replacement if you don't try a replacement at home? When do you actually think these long term plans be implement? In the 11st hour right before the WC? Till then "walking wicket" is not good for BD. Top order problem is a big issue for our team. Ash's mind boggling batting is causing that. Either snails pace and Powerplay wasting, or getting out without contributing at all.

There are other ways of tackling the issue. Three openers playing!! And/or Mushi be promoted to 1st down. There are plenty of options, if you can just look at the 23 average.

No replacement, HHS. In 2010 Feb, we are talking about no replacement for Ashraful. HHS. Mohamadan found replacement for Ashraful in 2008.

AsifTheManRahman
February 12, 2010, 05:14 PM
How would you know there is not a replacement if you don't try a replacement at home? When do you actually think these long term plans be implement? In the 11st hour right before the WC? Till then "walking wicket" is not good for BD. Top order problem is a big issue for our team. Ash's mind boggling batting is causing that. Either snails pace and Powerplay wasting, or getting out without contributing at all.

There are other ways of tackling the issue. Three openers playing!! And/or Mushi be promoted to 1st down. There are plenty of options, if you can just look at the 23 average.

No replacement, HHS. In 2010 Feb, we are talking about no replacement for Ashraful. HHS. Mohamadan found replacement for Ashraful in 2008.
I was actually thinking of Rakibul, but the poor fella seems to be totally clueless these days, possibly even more so than Ash. Bringing someone in from domestic cricket is an option, but IMO the first step should be to try out someone with international experience. I don't think the management handled SN well at all. He was in the ODI squad, which was OK, but they sent him out to bat in Tests and that was a mistake given that he hasn't played any FC cricket in a while.

It's not that Ashraful is irreplacable for eternity. The management just hasn't handled the situation well enough. They should have dropped him when other players were in form. His potential replacements also being out of form currently doesn't help the situation.

Unless of course there's someone good enough in domestic cricket, but it's really hard to predict how well domestic performances will translate to international stardom from the fan's armchair. That's what God made selectors for.

AsifTheManRahman
February 12, 2010, 05:16 PM
There are other ways of tackling the issue. Three openers playing!! And/or Mushi be promoted to 1st down.
I actually had Mushy at #3 in my line up. #4 I think is a bigger concern right now and unfortunately Ash wants to bat there and Jamie nods in agreement.

Tigers_eye
February 12, 2010, 05:19 PM
I actually had Mushy at #3 in my line up. #4 I think is a bigger concern right now and unfortunately Ash wants to bat there and Jamie nods in agreement.
So what is wrong in Tamim-Imrul-Zunaid-Mushi lineup? We can't try that at home?

AsifTheManRahman
February 12, 2010, 05:20 PM
So what is wrong in Tamim-Imrul-Zunaid-Mushi lineup?
Nothing wrong if Zunaed can find some form in ODI's. But what's the point of replacing an out of form batsman with another that's equally out of form?

Eshen
February 12, 2010, 05:24 PM
How would you know there is not a replacement if you don't try a replacement at home?
You have not noticed?! We tried plenty of replacement for Ashraful at #4 (forcing him to bat from some other position), but so far all failed latest being Raqibul. Till then "walking wicket" is not good for BD. Top order problem is a big issue for our team. If you can't tolerate walking wickets, may be we should get rid off Tamim and Shakib also (incase of Shakib, treat him as a bowler only), because those two are as consistent or inconsistent as Ashraful is now. Unfortunately, those three are our best batsmen.
There are other ways of tackling the issue. Three openers playing!! And/or Mushi be promoted to 1st down. There are plenty of options, if you can just look at the 23 average. Not opposed to try Mushfiq at #4 or Zunaed at #3, but it does feel weird to trade a batsman who is maintaining his average around 30 lately (ie Ashraful) for two batsman who maintaining their averages around 20 (ie Mushfiq and Zunaed). So may be we should try them one at a time and then see whether we can get rid of Ashraful.
Mohamadan found replacement for Ashraful in 2008.
Then Mohammedan bought back him for record Tk 2 million in 2009.

Again, I will be pretty happy if we find someone better than Ashraful, but there is currently none.

dolcevita
February 12, 2010, 05:37 PM
Ashraful must be dropped unless he scores a hundred in test against NZ
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Eshen
February 12, 2010, 05:40 PM
BTW, here is a clarification what I am talking about -

ODI batting stats since October 2008, since ICL exodus -

*Stats against Zim and WI are excluded.

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opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=notouts;spanmin1 =01+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;template=result s;type=batting)</th> <th nowrap="nowrap">Runs (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=runs;orderbyad=r everse;spanmin1=01+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25; template=results;type=batting)</th> <th class="padAst" nowrap="nowrap">HS (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=high_score;spanm in1=01+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;template=res ults;type=batting)</th> <th nowrap="nowrap">Ave (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=batting_average; spanmin1=01+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;templat e=results;type=batting)</th> <th nowrap="nowrap">BF (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=balls_faced;span min1=01+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;template=re sults;type=batting)</th> <th nowrap="nowrap">SR (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=batting_strike_r ate;spanmin1=01+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;tem plate=results;type=batting)</th> <th nowrap="nowrap">100 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=hundreds;spanmin 1=01+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;template=resul ts;type=batting)</th> <th nowrap="nowrap">50 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=fifty_plus;spanm in1=01+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;template=res ults;type=batting)</th> <th nowrap="nowrap">0 (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=ducks;spanmin1=0 1+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;template=results; type=batting)</th> <th nowrap="nowrap">4s (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=fours;spanmin1=0 1+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;template=results; type=batting)</th> <th nowrap="nowrap">6s (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;op position=2;opposition=3;opposition=5;opposition=6; opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=sixes;spanmin1=0 1+Oct+2008;spanval1=span;team=25;template=results; type=batting)</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Mohammad Ashraful (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/55988.html)</td> <td>14</td> <td>14</td> <td>1</td> <td>383</td> <td class="padAst">75</td> <td>29.46</td> <td>553</td> <td>69.25</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>0</td> <td>38</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Shakib Al Hasan (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56143.html)</td> <td>14</td> <td>14</td> <td>2</td> <td>362</td> <td>92*</td> <td>30.16</td> <td>484</td> <td>74.79</td> <td>0</td> <td>3</td> <td>2</td> <td>31</td> <td>3</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Tamim Iqbal (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56194.html)</td> <td>14</td> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> <td>348</td> <td class="padAst">62</td> <td>24.85</td> <td>391</td> <td>89.00</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>1</td> <td>56</td> <td>3</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Imrul Kayes (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/280734.html)</td> <td>10</td> <td>10</td> <td>0</td> <td>314</td> <td class="padAst">101</td> <td>31.40</td> <td>456</td> <td>68.85</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>30</td> <td>4</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Mahmudullah (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56025.html)</td> <td>11</td> <td>9</td> <td>3</td> <td>264</td> <td>64*</td> <td>44.00</td> <td>314</td> <td>84.07</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>0</td> <td>22</td> <td>4</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Naeem Islam (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56054.html)</td> <td>14</td> <td>13</td> <td>6</td> <td>251</td> <td>46*</td> <td>35.85</td> <td>393</td> <td>63.86</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>21</td> <td>6</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Mushfiqur Rahim (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56029.html)</td> <td>14</td> <td>14</td> <td>0</td> <td>242</td> <td class="padAst">86</td> <td>17.28</td> <td>404</td> <td>59.90</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>18</td> <td>6</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Junaid Siddique (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/55946.html)</td> <td>7</td> <td>7</td> <td>0</td> <td>168</td> <td class="padAst">85</td> <td>24.00</td> <td>307</td> <td>54.72</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>16</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr class="data1"> <td class="left" nowrap="nowrap">Raqibul Hasan (http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/56093.html)</td> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>1</td> <td>162</td> <td>43*</td> <td>20.25</td> <td>320</td> <td>50.62</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>7</td> <td>1</td> </tr> </tbody></table></th> <th nowrap="nowrap">
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Ashraful is still leading the table!

beshideshi
February 12, 2010, 07:18 PM
I think it will be a similar team to that played in the 3rd ODI, perhaps one of the pacers making room for Mash or Razzak. Nothing else IMO.

Gowza
February 12, 2010, 07:48 PM
mushy, riyad and naeem can all be tried in the #4 spot, so #4 shouldn't be a concern. i think shuvagoto hom could possibly be a long term replacement, i'll admit i haven't seen him bat but people say he has good technique and looking at his stats he can paly big innings and he is consistent, but should he be brought in now? definitely want to see S Hom in the practice matches against england to see what he's got. the #3 spot is the biggest concern really, we can try mushy at #3 but he'd still be a makeshift #3 so there is still a lot of risk in that. and why does no one talk about nazmus sadat? so much potential in that guy and he's actually pretty consistent in list A cricket.

Catskills
February 12, 2010, 09:02 PM
are you joking, brother? pilot is the best keeper in the "subcontinent"? you can say he is the best keeper in bangladesh, do not say subcontinent.

how are you so sure pilot will perform well now as a keeper, like he used to?

According to his coach Dav Whatmore, Pilot was the best in Asia. It's somewhat difficult to judge how good a keeper is. However I believe that a good keeper should have a very good stumping ratio. Just to compare Pilot with Dhoni and Sangakara, this is what I find in ODI.
Pilot
Out 95 caught, 35 stumping: 38.4% successful stumping

Dhoni
Out of 153 caught, 52 stumping: 33.9% successful stumping

Sangakkara
Out of 254 caught, 66 stumping: 25.9% success stumping

Pilot indeed tops them all.

nycpro96
February 12, 2010, 09:55 PM
According to his coach Dav Whatmore, Pilot was the best in Asia. It's somewhat difficult to judge how good a keeper is. However I believe that a good keeper should have a very good stumping ratio. Just to compare Pilot with Dhoni and Sangakara, this is what I find in ODI.
Pilot
Out 95 caught, 35 stumping: 38.4% successful stumping

Dhoni
Out of 153 caught, 52 stumping: 33.9% successful stumping

Sangakkara
Out of 254 caught, 66 stumping: 25.9% success stumping

Pilot indeed tops them all.

Wow! Nice stats.

al-Sagar
February 12, 2010, 10:39 PM
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u need one change... let me bat at no11... coz i have always batted at that position for my school, college or varsity teams. anyway i would be a good opening, one change or death over bowler.

batting wise i am a good player of spin but against good pace i struggle. anyway i always take the challenge to survive in the middle, and try to hit if there is loose ball. i have this special ability to find gaps against spinners. but when its pace bowling if the ball is on the stumps and overpitched i can flick it or play it over the bowler. if its good length i struggle to manufacture a shot. against short ball i will simply duck or sway away. if its overpitched out side off, i will fish, sometimes i may generate a good cover or square drive but mostly i will miss and sometimes i will edge it .

i remember one game played during my NDC period. that day i was playing with a students of another group. there as 8 players a team and a 15 over match. i was asked whether i can open. i thought he asked whether i can open the bowling. i was pretty confident coz thats my role. but actually he was asking about batting. well i went to open as non sriker and my team was allout for 25 runs in 8-9 overs and i was not out till the end for 0 (zero) facing 11-12 balls.

anyway when i was asked to bowls i was quite devastating, in 3 overs i took 4 wickets (all bowled) conceding 10 runs (all wides). the most interesting and amazing thing was the opponents failed to hit the ball with bat except once which was a inside edge to the stumps.

that was one of my memorable all round performance though we lost the match.

also another day i remember. on that day in two different games i was asked to bowl the last over when we were defending a total. in the first game in the last over opponents required 3 to win. in the first 5 balls i conceded only two. but when it was 1 run from 1 ball i bowled a wide.

in the 2nd game i was i again bowling the last over this time opponents needed only 2 to win and i bowled 5 dot balls and then ...... i bowled two wides.

ha ha ha

nzfan
February 12, 2010, 10:42 PM
According to his coach Dav Whatmore, Pilot was the best in Asia. It's somewhat difficult to judge how good a keeper is. However I believe that a good keeper should have a very good stumping ratio. Just to compare Pilot with Dhoni and Sangakara, this is what I find in ODI.
Pilot
Out 95 caught, 35 stumping: 38.4% successful stumping

Dhoni
Out of 153 caught, 52 stumping: 33.9% successful stumping

Sangakkara
Out of 254 caught, 66 stumping: 25.9% success stumping

Pilot indeed tops them all.


Khaled actually has one of the best byes/1000 runs record. Only current player close is Brendon mccullum. Dhoni is way down the list. Stumping doesnt mean much for western countries since we don't rely on spin so much and mccullum has a very low stumping record but if you ave seen him behind the stumps he isnt bad

Even mark boucher has less than a 10% stumping to catching record so what does that say?

al-Sagar
February 12, 2010, 10:47 PM
Day Nighters?! Can anyone in Dhaka confirm whether dew will be a problem again?

here is a confirmation from someone from not only dhaka but from mirpur (1 km away from SNBS).

as the winter season over and we just entered spring, DEW wont be a problem.

yaseer
February 13, 2010, 01:55 AM
If we do not prepare spin-freindly wicket, rather prepare batting wicket, whatever XI, we choose, we have no chance to beat England.

yaseer
February 13, 2010, 02:00 AM
It is not a big deal. They will play the 3rd ODI there. The key is making the practice pitch different than the test pitch. Creating confusion in enemy ranks - Jaez asey!!

:)

Exactly, there is only 2 days between practice and Test match. No way both the matches will be played in same pitch. Just do not cut the grass of the practice match pitch from now on. Do not include spinners in the XI, let them practice against our pace bowlers on green top.

But I have every doubt whether BCB has brains or has time to use brains to just do this simple little thing.

Eshen
February 13, 2010, 02:32 AM
True, I have seen 2/3 variations with ZACS pitch. If the curator decides to leave grass on practice wicket and roll it only lightly, it may be very different from grass-less heavily rolled low-slow pitch we want to see in the Test match.

Eshen
February 13, 2010, 02:41 AM
i think shuvagoto hom could possibly be a long term replacement, i'll admit i haven't seen him bat but people say he has good technique and looking at his stats he can paly big innings and he is consistent, but should he be brought in now?
Come on now, that's just desperate. To put so much hope on a guy who spent only one summer with the academy is unfair both to him and to players currently in the national team.

Gowza
February 13, 2010, 02:46 AM
Come on now, that's just desperate. To put so much hope on a guy who spent only one summer with the academy is unfair both to him and to players currently in the national team.

desperate, i'm just saying he looks like a good prospect and could possibly be a long term solution in the future. the "should he be brought in now?" question was just to see what other people thought about him, i do want to see him in the practice matches but i don't think he should be brought in yet. it's not like i said he's the one and only hope, he's one of a few players who could be a long term solution.

M.H.Rubel
February 13, 2010, 02:51 AM
1.TIK
2.IMRUL
3.SN/Aftab
4.Mushy
5.Shakib
6.Ash
7.Riyad
8.Naeem
9.Razzak
10.Mash
11.Shafiul
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Eshen
February 13, 2010, 02:59 AM
desperate, i'm just saying he looks like a good prospect and could possibly be a long term solution in the future. the "should he be brought in now?" question was just to see what other people thought about him, i do want to see him in the practice matches but i don't think he should be brought in yet. it's not like i said he's the one and only hope, he's one of a few players who could be a long term solution.
Got ya.

IMO, Shuvagoto should spend at least one more summer in A-team/academy set up before selectors come to consider him for level up. Matter of fact, I don't think any player (from domestic leagues or U/19) should be in consideration for the national team before they spent two summers with the A-team/academy.

* I understand we broke the rule with Shafiul, as he was selected after only one summer with the academy, but that's out of desperation as we were so badly short of decent pacers.

Jesus87
February 13, 2010, 06:21 AM
I have seen potential in each player, but they hardly use it together in a single match. They don't lack the skill but their temperament is awful. Tamim can take on any attack on the world with the aggresion he shows but looks like a fool when the bowlers bowl a yorker and acts as if the ball was unplayable. Ashraful is the clasiest of all batsmen in our line up, just needs to see a psychologist and get his mental issues fixed, his strokes are genuine, his style is unique in BD cricket. Shakib is a tailender batsman who got lucky, his main role should be bowling and he's doing quite well.
My line up
1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Riyadh
4) Mushfiq
5) Ashraful
6) Naem Islam
7) Dhiman (we need a specialist keeper)
8) Shakib
9) Mash
10) Razzak or anyone u decide (England doesn't play spin that well)
11) Shafiul

kalpurush
February 13, 2010, 06:48 AM
I have seen potential in each player, but they hardly use it together in a single match. They don't lack the skill but their temperament is awful. Tamim can take on any attack on the world with the aggresion he shows but looks like a fool when the bowlers bowl a yorker and acts as if the ball was unplayable. Ashraful is the clasiest of all batsmen in our line up, just needs to see a psychologist and get his mental issues fixed, his strokes are genuine, his style is unique in BD cricket. Shakib is a tailender batsman who got lucky, his main role should be bowling and he's doing quite well.
My line up
1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Riyadh
4) Mushfiq
5) Ashraful
6) Naem Islam
7) Dhiman (we need a specialist keeper)
8) Shakib
9) Mash
10) Razzak or anyone u decide (England doesn't play spin that well)
11) Shafiul
Mine too. Though, I would choose Big Z instead of Dhiman to add another batter. Also, Dhiman is not in good form lately. :)

mishu
February 13, 2010, 12:15 PM
what about saqlain sajib,, he seems to be a wicket taking machine,,, on cricinfo it shows 16 first class matches 86 wickets, and 20 list A match 32 wickets!!! he shud be tried out...

tamim iqbal
imrul kayes/junaed
shahriar nafees
rakibul
shakibul
mashfiq
mahmudllah
naeem
mashrafee
rubel
abdur razzak / saqlain sajib

or we could make a best spin friendly pitch and try out something like this...

tamim
junaed
shuvo (he scored 150+ after opening for rajshahi,lol and than a duck on 2nd ining)
shakib
mahmudullah
naeem
marshal ayub
saqlain sajib
abdur razzak
mashrafe
rubel

Gowza
February 13, 2010, 03:19 PM
what about saqlain sajib,, he seems to be a wicket taking machine,,, on cricinfo it shows 16 first class matches 86 wickets, and 20 list A match 32 wickets!!! he shud be tried out...

tamim iqbal
imrul kayes/junaed
shahriar nafees
rakibul
shakibul
mashfiq
mahmudllah
naeem
mashrafee
rubel
abdur razzak / saqlain sajib

or we could make a best spin friendly pitch and try out something like this...

tamim
junaed
shuvo (he scored 150+ after opening for rajshahi,lol and than a duck on 2nd ining)
shakib
mahmudullah
naeem
marshal ayub
saqlain sajib
abdur razzak
mashrafe
rubel

give saqlain some practice matches and A team matches, shuvo should be ahead of saqlain because he's been performing for longer plus is a stronger batsman.

The_Yorker
February 13, 2010, 05:26 PM
Shuvo must be given a chance this time. Not only as a spinner but he will contribute a lot as a batsman too. I prefer Shuvo over Razzak in upcoming matches.

Sohel
February 13, 2010, 11:31 PM
Batting order:

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Zunaed Siddiqui
4. Mushfiqur Rahim
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Mohammad Madmudullah
7. Nayeem Islam
8. Dhiman Ghosh (WK)
9. Talha Jubair
10. Syed Rasel
11. Shaju Datta

Bench: Nafees Iqbal, Aftab Ahmed (one JLJ selection is enough), Shahadat Hossain* & Abdur Razzak**.

*Needs to be accurate. I'm not a speed-pimp, at least when it means sacrificing accuracy, intelligence and variations in the shorter formats especially on placid, deshi pitches. Picked Rajib because he has been the most accurate of the 3 (RBX and Shuhash being the other 2) of late.

** Needs to be effective with legal deliveries if he, always a MAJOR fielding liability for the team, gets his chance.

al-Sagar
February 13, 2010, 11:40 PM
shuvo will only get to play the two practice mathces

zainab
February 15, 2010, 02:26 PM
The Barmy Army follows the English team around, and they like to drin k liquor, sing and generally have a good time, even if their team is losing.
My take is- BD is an Islamist country, drinking is not allowed in the public, i am wondering what these English fans will do, very interesting to find out.

Eshen
February 17, 2010, 01:19 AM
Bump

Yes people, I still think Ash deserves another ODI series. However, I am now considering Saghir as the specialist keeper, and Rubel in place of Mash (since Mash is unlikely to gain his rhythm back before the ODI series).

al-Sagar
February 17, 2010, 01:20 AM
hmm ok, let the NZ series finish

al-Sagar
February 17, 2010, 04:00 AM
ok here is one.....

tamim
imrul
sabbir
naeem
mahmudullah
shakib
mushfik
shuvo
razzak
shafiul
rubel

reserves: zunaed, ashraful, shahadat, nazmul