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_Rafi_
February 28, 2010, 10:20 AM
Drop Zunaed
Drop Aftab
Drop Rajjak
Bring X, Y, Z instead of them.

My team for 2nd ODI
1. TIK
2. IK
3. Mushy
4. Riyad
5. Shakib
6. Nayeem
7. ?(prescribe who to play this position)
8. Shuvo
9. Saqlain Sajib
10. Shafi
11. Mash/Rubel
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Jesus87
February 28, 2010, 10:25 AM
We need Zunayed for his fielding, need to drop Mushfiq though for his horrible keeping. Also Mash is out shape, bowling at around 125 kph like shahadat, he used to bowl at 135 - 139, man this was a complete shocker.

Shaan
February 28, 2010, 10:27 AM
Drop Zunaed
Drop Aftab
Drop Rajjak
Bring X, Y, Z instead of them.

agree with you..

Spitfire_x86
February 28, 2010, 10:28 AM
Yes, Zunaed stays as specialist slip catcher. A catch is easily worth 25 runs.

auntu
February 28, 2010, 10:29 AM
Shuvo can play instead of Aftab.

magic boy
February 28, 2010, 10:29 AM
Before doping player DROP the Real Players Playing with them: [THE SELECTORS]

They are not standard enough to be selector for international matches.[বাংলা]পুতুল খেলা পাইছে নাকি?[/বাংলা].period

reyme
February 28, 2010, 10:29 AM
Constant cut and paste does not work. This is a team game and team chemistry and combination matters. Ins tead of running a revolving door policy, if you just play the Team U19 or Team A, you will get better results.

First the roar to take Shareer Nafes, then crying for Aftab, then take Zunaed, then drop Ash/Raqibul and now drop Aftab/Zunayed and bring back Ash/Raqib.

National team is not a ginipig lab. Lets not play musical chair game here. If a player is not right, dont select him to begin with.

Nadim
February 28, 2010, 10:30 AM
Shuvo in for Aftab.........Rubel for Mash......and Mithun(wk) for Zunaid........

chol_bd123
February 28, 2010, 10:30 AM
drop Mash. he sucks

BD-Shardul
February 28, 2010, 10:31 AM
My XI for ODI 2, although I know it will never happen. But let me get some consolation by making my dream team:

Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Mohammad Ashraful
Rokibul Hasan
Shakib Al Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Nayeem Islam
Mahmudullah Riyad
Syed Rasel
Suhrawardi Shuvo
Abdur Razzaq

Jesus87
February 28, 2010, 10:32 AM
Playing Eleven
1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Zunayed
4. Mahmudullah
5. Naem Islam
6. Mush
7. Shakib
8. Dhiman (wk)
9. Shuvo
10. Shafiul
11. Rubel

_Rafi_
February 28, 2010, 10:33 AM
We need Zunayed for his fielding, need to drop Mushfiq though for his horrible keeping. Also Mash is out shape, bowling at around 125 kph like shahadat, he used to bowl at 135 - 139, man this was a complete shocker.
as a 12th man Zunaed can field. His batting performence is more than horrible
As for Mash, he was playing for himself. He felt before the match that his speed is not up to that mark but still decided to play. This type of selfish conduct from Mash really hurt me
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Jesus87
February 28, 2010, 10:37 AM
as a 12th man Zunaed can field. His batting performence is more than horrible
As for Mash, he was playing for himself. He felt before the match that his speed is not up to that mark but still decided to play. This type of selfish conduct from Mash really hurt me
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Lotus Kamal was right about our players I guess.

Shaan
February 28, 2010, 10:37 AM
Shuvo in for Aftab.........Rubel for Mash......and Mithun(wk) for Zunaid........

exactly.. we don't need Ash for God sake, let him play more matches in domestic, he got enough chances. If he wants to get back then he should prove himself by scoring runs consistently and show maturity in domestic.

BD-Shardul
February 28, 2010, 10:38 AM
Can someone please count how many overs Rubel and Safiul has bowled combined where they have not conceded a four?

One World
February 28, 2010, 10:40 AM
We all new about the collapse that was coming at 3 and 4 and the deficiency in pace department.
Still we hoped and the ugly truth is disposed one more time.

Please let some new performers bundle in, even if they produce a duck at least we cannot regret it later. Let the players who needs to get back to fitness take time and join with honour and pride.

MohammedC
February 28, 2010, 10:43 AM
Tamim
Imrul/Zunaid (only one of them not both)
Rok
Mahmudullah
Shakib
Mushi
Naeem
Shuvo
Razzak (give him one more chance)
Shafiul
Rubel


its important we bring some stabilty in middle order by bringing back Rok

_Rafi_
February 28, 2010, 10:44 AM
7. ?(prescribe who to play this position
oh yes got it. An wicket keeper should be placed in this slot
Candidates-
1. Saghir (domestic form)
2. Dhiman(Xperienced)
3. Anamul (can use last pp perfectly)
4. Mithun
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chol_bd123
February 28, 2010, 10:48 AM
Tamim
Imrul/Zunaid (only one of them not both)
Rok
Mahmudullah
Shakib
Mushi
Naeem
Shuvo
Razzak (give him one more chance)
Shafiul
Rubel


its important we bring some stabilty in middle order by bringing back Rok

how does a player stablise the middle order if he scores below twenty every time he plays

Nadim
February 28, 2010, 10:48 AM
btw Ash ajke :duck: marche NCL e...

MohammedC
February 28, 2010, 11:01 AM
how does a player stablise the middle order if he scores below twenty every time he plays

By saying stabilty I meant he is capable to bat longer. I said capable as he was out of form when taken out.

160/2 or3 after 37 over is not enough but it is much better than 160/6.

Shaan
February 28, 2010, 11:08 AM
btw Ash ajke :duck: marche NCL e...
and some people already asking for his inclusion, how crazy, hilarious and insane we fan can be. no wonder why our selectors are making same mistakes..

bangla-red
February 28, 2010, 11:09 AM
Anything must be better than Razzak's straight and flat deliveries and worse-than-Panesar fielding.

al-Sagar
February 28, 2010, 11:25 AM
one thing i was able to watch in the stadium during the interval was, shuvo's bowling. he was bowling in another pitch with one stump at both sides and two markers on the pitch at a good length to target at. he was constantly bowling the good length and line was getting good turn. khaled mahmud was doing the keeping.

looks like he could be a much more threat than razzak. razzak is getting very inconsistent these days.

i think when shuvo gets a chance razzak will be out gradually. and there are the likes of saqlain sajib and elias sunny waiting.

for 2nd odi i will certainly draft in SHUVO and also RUBEL. today both our pacers looked a bit rusty, though shafiul was not given too much chance. i will drop two from aftab junaed razzaq. i think BD team still has the chance to add 1/2 player in the team. so lets see what happens

sadi
February 28, 2010, 11:38 AM
Shuvo should've played to begin with. Razzak is out of form for a while. Having Mash in the squad makes it hard to leave him out of the playing XI. He is not ready for International cricket yet. Here is my XI:

Tamim, Imrul, Aftab, Forhad, Mahmudullah, Shakib, Mushfiq, Naeem, Shuvo, Shafiul, Rubel

Equinox
February 28, 2010, 11:51 AM
Well firstly I'd make some changes to the squad: Aftab, Zunaed and Mashrafe (unfit) out and Dhiman, Rokibul and Rasel in. Can we do that? Bedwetter was not originally in the England squad they added him later.

My XI (from this crap squad)
Tamim
Imrul
Aftab
Mushfiq+
Shakib*
Riyad
Naeem
Shuvo
Mashrafe
Razzak
Shafiul

Nadim
February 28, 2010, 11:56 AM
Well firstly I'd make some changes to the squad: Aftab, Zunaed and Mashrafe (unfit) out and Dhiman, Rokibul and Rasel in. Can we do that? Bedwetter was not originally in the England squad they added him later.

My XI (from this crap squad)
Tamim
Imrul
Aftab
Mushfiq+
Shakib*
Riyad
Naeem
Shuvo
Mashrafe
Razzak
Shafiul


By seeing some performance from ICLer's so far i would say a big NOOOOOO to bring Dhiman.....Moreover, he hasn't done anything special for ages now to get back in the NT team......better option would be Mithun/Shagir/Jahirul.

One World
February 28, 2010, 11:57 AM
You are at home and there is no restriction to add players right, bring in whoever seems suitable who can add at least double digits at no 3 and 4. Bench Raz and Mash for couple more series.

_Rafi_
February 28, 2010, 12:07 PM
I think Mash is playing for proving himself fit for playing IPL.
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Equinox
February 28, 2010, 12:11 PM
By seeing some performance from ICLer's so far i would say a big NOOOOOO to bring Dhiman.....Moreover, he hasn't done anything special for ages now to get back in the NT team......better option would be Mithun/Shagir/Jahirul.
The people who watched the SA Games said Mithun is Mushfiq-like in keeping. Johirul should concentrate on his batting. He is doing well as a specialist batsman and given his age I would prever him over Faisal or Farhad in the Test team so no need to ruin him by bringing him as a wicket-keeper at this stage. That leaves Sahagir and people say he is same as Dhiman with the bat and I'd give the edge to Dhiman due to his experience.

I think we should bat Naeem at 7 and the specialist keeper at 8 and we only need a quickfire 20-30 from our no. 8. And Dhiman is capable of that.

Razi
February 28, 2010, 12:23 PM
I'm really worried about Razzak; can't bowl, forgot how to hold a bat and I better not say how his fielding was today.

Tiger Manc
February 28, 2010, 12:44 PM
My team:

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Aftab Ahmed
4. Mahmudullah
5. Shakib al Hasan
6. Mushfiqur Rahim
7. Naeem Islam
8. Suhrawadi Shuvo
9. Abdur Razzak
10. Shafiul Islam
11. Rubel Hossain (Mash needs the rest)

Tiger Manc
February 28, 2010, 12:46 PM
I prefer having 7 batsman, because 8 doesn't make a difference anyway. Hopefully Shuvo will strenghthen the bowling department as we struggle to take wickets.

Tiger Manc
February 28, 2010, 12:46 PM
:lol:I'm really worried about Razzak; can't bowl, forgot how to hold a bat and I better not say how his fielding was today.

His fielding is AWFUL!!

fais
February 28, 2010, 12:50 PM
mash should not be playing - he needs some time in the NCL - he shud have definitely opted for that; he does not have his batting or bowling skills anywhere near the level required

Ahmed_B
February 28, 2010, 12:58 PM
We lost the game once we failed to score a 270+ after getting such a good start...not because of dropped chances. Whether for the dew factor or for the track-nature..I dint really see any significant turns from the pitch. BD's spinner-gang strategy sort of backfired. You cant really expect to contain a strong side with this sort of a low score.

Who do you wana blame?
Kayes-Zunayed-Aftab-Sakib-Mushfiq-Nayeem...all of them failed to deliver as bangladesh fell a well 50-runs short of where they could easily have been.

Miraz
February 28, 2010, 01:16 PM
It's a real shame that we do not have any batsman in the lineup except Tamim.

Shakib, Mushfiq, Naeem and Riyad are all-rounders. We don't have a single specialist batsman except Tamim in the line-up.

We need two pure batsman to replace Aftab and Zunaed. I would drop Zunaed and Mash from the current squad and replace them with Shuvo and Rubel. I am sure Shuvo will not do anything worse than Zunaed as a batsman.

B_IKHAN_71
February 28, 2010, 01:16 PM
Wa Do Most ppl on ere fink jus droppin players left .rite n centres gnna change anyfing ???!!
u cnt just drop a player afta givin him one game wats the point in that., if they followed that policy every new player wud get dropped after their first game take shafiul 4example he wuz picked as a strike bowler n yet dident take any wickets ok he wuzent in the startin 11 for the nx game , but came bak stronglyy n now look at him ., in the space of 5 weeks his evn higher in the peckin order then rubel !!

Patience Ppl Patience ...........

only if they keep not performin game afta game then can they only be deserving of the drop., n not before

The_Yorker
February 28, 2010, 01:24 PM
I say give a chance to either Forhad Hossain or Zuhurul. I am sure they will do much better than our top order/middle order batsman.
In regards to Razzak, I don't think he is out of form. It is that all have figured out Razzak. Razzak needs to learn variations, otherwise his future seems to be doomed.

hbk619
February 28, 2010, 02:53 PM
My XI for ODI 2, although I know it will never happen. But let me get some consolation by making my dream team:

Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Mohammad Ashraful
Rokibul Hasan
Shakib Al Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Nayeem Islam
Mahmudullah Riyad
Syed Rasel
Suhrawardi Shuvo
Abdur Razzaq

apni ekhono Ashraful periodea achen?

hbk619
February 28, 2010, 02:57 PM
It's a real shame that we do not have any batsman in the lineup except Tamim.

Shakib, Mushfiq, Naeem and Riyad are all-rounders. We don't have a single specialist batsman except Tamim in the line-up.

We need two pure batsman to replace Aftab and Zunaed. I would drop Zunaed and Mash from the current squad and replace them with Shuvo and Rubel. I am sure Shuvo will not do anything worse than Zunaed as a batsman.

there are some good players in domestics cricket that can do much better than Aftab/Junayed/Ashraful. Selectors are too scared whether to pick new player or not. Selectors were also scared to drop Ashraful. Why BCB had to tell to drop Ashraful/Rock? Shame to those selectors

BD-Shardul
February 28, 2010, 03:12 PM
apni ekhono Ashraful periodea achen?

I thought he was not doing that bad in ODIs. At least he is better than Aftab.

Haradhon
February 28, 2010, 03:17 PM
Shuvo should've played to begin with. Razzak is out of form for a while. Having Mash in the squad makes it hard to leave him out of the playing XI. He is not ready for International cricket yet. Here is my XI:

Tamim, Imrul, Aftab, Forhad, Mahmudullah, Shakib, Mushfiq, Naeem, Shuvo, Shafiul, Rubel
Why Forhad? Why would yo bring him back?

WarWolf
February 28, 2010, 03:21 PM
Why Forhad? Why would yo bring him back?

Forhad Hossain, not Reza.

hbk619
February 28, 2010, 03:23 PM
I thought he was not doing that bad in ODIs. At least he is better than Aftab.

no one is good. We should look for new players. Time to move on

Moyna_fan
February 28, 2010, 03:24 PM
Enough of Aftab and Zunaid. Why not give Shuvo a chance? We cant afford to have two one digit maker in the team. My final 11 for the last 2 ODI will be

Tamim
Imrul
Mushfiq
Riad
Sakib
Naeem
Shuvo
Aftab/Zunaid
Mashrafee
Shafiul
another SLA

Moyna_fan
February 28, 2010, 03:25 PM
oh merge it wid da other thread. My bad din c it...

Gowza
February 28, 2010, 03:30 PM
time to try some of the newer talents, although farhad and jahurul have beend oing well in FC cricket not so much in the one-dayers. for list A cricket nazmus sadat has been good over the years and rony/uttam did well this year in the NCL. shuvagoto is also up there but he probably needs more time, hasn't really played much cricket at the top domestic level to this point, would have been really good to have seen him in the practice matches to see where he was at (hopefully he'll be in the A team match).

WarWolf
February 28, 2010, 03:46 PM
No Zunaed please.

NKVD
February 28, 2010, 04:12 PM
Aftab was ro though, so we can't blame him that much.

Though he has no place in the team clearly, in the long term. His short term is in risk too. He is just a hobo jerk, with no brains.

gadha
February 28, 2010, 04:51 PM
Best ODI squad:

Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Aftab Ahmed
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Naeem Islam
Mahmudullah Riyad
Shurwardy Shuvo
Dhiman Ghosh (Best WK in bangladesh right now)
Mashrafe/Rubel (Rubel because Mashrafe I do not think is fit yet)
Shafiul Islam



Best Test Squad:

Tamim Iqbal
Imrul Kayes
Junaed Siddique
Mushfiqur Rahim
Shakib Al Hasan
Mahmudullah Riyad
Naeem Islam
Dhiman Ghosh
Shahadat Hossain
Rubel Hossain
Shafiul Islam

One World
February 28, 2010, 04:56 PM
time to try some of the newer talents, although farhad and jahurul have beend oing well in FC cricket not so much in the one-dayers. for list A cricket nazmus sadat has been good over the years and rony/uttam did well this year in the NCL. shuvagoto is also up there but he probably needs more time, hasn't really played much cricket at the top domestic level to this point, would have been really good to have seen him in the practice matches to see where he was at (hopefully he'll be in the A team match).

I do not mind trying any of those you mentioned in the list because one way or the other they cannot do anything worse than what is in the plate. So introduce an ODI wicket keeper and a new middle order, keep them trying unless it sedates to useful solution. Probably Dhiman can be called back with Shuvo taking the place of somehow morphed Razzak and Mash can hit the gym when Rubel can take control. For the middle order we need grafter, not hitter because as long as TI-Imrul is there we might see the proper utilization of bowling PP's.

Roni_uk
February 28, 2010, 05:42 PM
Mashrafee needs to head to the gym than to the pitch... he needs to get fit. His knee might have recovered but he is absolutely unfit.

Fazal
February 28, 2010, 07:10 PM
Only in BD team you will see the following:

1. We have top order specialized batsman(s) who as a group fails (except for Tamim)
2. We have specialized bowlers who are either not used, or fail to produce
3. We have a WC who fails perform his main duty i.e wicket keeping.

Its only the make shift all rounders who are the one who is still trying to make things happen.

Except for Tamim all of our top order specialized batsman are pretty much failure for a while....Emrul is trying his best but not good enough yet to say he should be our long term solution....then you have a bunch of off-form/not good enough failures in Ash/Juniad/Rakibul/Aftab/SN....are we recycling all these rejects too often and too quickly ignoring any new options from local league and/or promoting Rahim/Naeem/Mahmudullah.....our #2, #3, #4 is going on for a while now....and what we are doing? trying to recycle old spoiled wine again and again. How much longer do we need to wait before Siddon and Co. will realize its not working?


Razzak was pretty off again India, then what makes them think he will be successful suddenly? Was he that much overwhelming in the local league to bring him back again to early?

Why bringing back Mashrafee when its obvious that he was not game ready condition?

Why taking a 2nd specialized bowler in Saiful, when they don't plan to use him at all?

It's very demoralization to the bowlers then they see missed opportunity and sub-per performance by the wicket keeper. Its going on for a while? What is their plan to fix that? Rahim need to improve his WC or he can dedicate his energy to become a specialized batsman. But this kind of sub-par performance by our WC for soo long cannot be be tolerated if we want to be more competitive.

Unless we address these issues with new approach (than what our management is doing now), I don't see much hope for improvement.

FaHiMa
February 28, 2010, 07:15 PM
I think Mash is playing for proving himself fit for playing IPL.
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then shouldnt he perform like he`s ready and in form!? lol

Tiger444
February 28, 2010, 07:17 PM
Zunaed should not have even been in this squad even let alone the starting 11..so i would drop him next match..hes gotten enough matches and hes proved 2 not be effective in ODIs..hes a must in tests though..keep aftab because he needs a fair chance since he just came back from icl..but hes gotta perform in the next 2 odi or else he should be dropped from the squad for good..i thought razzak didnt do so bad..he was economical like the other bowlers..he just didnt pick up wickets..doesnt warrant a drop though..mash should be dropped..hes clearly not ready yet 4 international cricket..needs to bowl more in the ncl and prove hes his old self.. so i would pick rubel and shuvo and drop big Z and mash..

Gowza
February 28, 2010, 07:35 PM
nazmus would be on my list in one-dayers to be given ago at the #2/#3 slot, he's been pretty consistent for a few years whereas rony hasn't been around long and uttam started his career pretty well then had a couple of lean years and is starting to comeback a bit this season. otherwise we have to try the FC performers i.e. farhad, jahurul, shamsur marshall etc. if faisal has poor technique i don't want to try him because it's rare for a player with poor technique to succeed internationally. shuvagoto is an exciting talent but he hasn't played much cricket, not even DPL stuff, he's been around for a few seasons but just has never really got a regulary go until the NCL this year. but if we bring in new players and keep mushy down the order then i don't see the point of playing mushy at all, he's really a top 4 batsmen just because of his style and dif his keeping is below par and he's batting lower than top 4 or 5 at a stretch then why are we using him? we've got keepers who would be similar or maybe better with the gloves and have that explosiveness that mushy lacks (dhiman, mithun).

beshideshi
February 28, 2010, 08:29 PM
*daat thakte daat-er morjada keu bujhe na*
And in this case our daat is Rakibul. He is a crucial player in our ODI team, without him there is not really anyone in the middle order who can hold the team. It is unreasonable to ask the lower order to perform every single game.
I simply do not understand why we have a 13 men squad in a home series, i really hope to see Rakibul back in the team and also Shuvo making the team. And I would like to see Aftab and Zunayed making room for them.

Tiger444
February 28, 2010, 09:24 PM
*daat thakte daat-er morjada keu bujhe na*
And in this case our daat is Rakibul. He is a crucial player in our ODI team, without him there is not really anyone in the middle order who can hold the team. It is unreasonable to ask the lower order to perform every single game.
I simply do not understand why we have a 13 men squad in a home series, i really hope to see Rakibul back in the team and also Shuvo making the team. And I would like to see Aftab and Zunayed making room for them.

Really enjoy reading your posts beshideshi and yet again you have posted a great post here..we just dont hv a glue in our team besides the rock..yes he is slow but he is a player that is needed on our team..if it was any other team then its a different story but we are a much different team..we have players that play shots with a lot of risk and therefore we need someone 2 play a long innings..this just doesnt make sense..they took an out of form zunaed over an out of form roqibul even tho roqibul has a much higher average in all forms of the game..my 1st choice would be 2 drop ash/rock/big Z and try out other players who are performing in domestic crikcet but if the team management is not interested in that then why dont we just take roqibul in the squad? He should definitely be playing over Zunaed..he wouldve done much better then him yesterday..

Haradhon
February 28, 2010, 09:31 PM
Forhad Hossain, not Reza.
What are his stats?

Haradhon
February 28, 2010, 09:40 PM
Really enjoy reading your posts beshideshi and yet again you have posted a great post here..we just dont hv a glue in our team besides the rock..yes he is slow but he is a player that is needed on our team..if it was any other team then its a different story but we are a much different team..we have players that play shots with a lot of risk and therefore we need someone 2 play a long innings..this just doesnt make sense..they took an out of form zunaed over an out of form roqibul even tho roqibul has a much higher average in all forms of the game..my 1st choice would be 2 drop ash/rock/big Z and try out other players who are performing in domestic crikcet but if the team management is not interested in that then why dont we just take roqibul in the squad? He should definitely be playing over Zunaed..he wouldve done much better then him yesterday..
I agree; Rokibul has been dropped because of his performance in NZ tour. On Zunaed, his recent dismissal was sort of due to bad luck; so was Mahmudullah's - he got out before judging the line and bounce on the first ball.
We should drop players who are clearly inconsistent - Ash fits in this catgory. Aftab and Zuaned may be the next in this category.
Mashrafee was rusty becasue of his long lay-off, yet he is an intelligent bowler, and in ODI he would be better than Rubel. We need an spinner who has venom and get wickets, like Graham Swann

al-Sagar
February 28, 2010, 10:05 PM
zunaed looked so shaky when he came to bat yesterday. i dont know whether this was shown in the telecast. we in the stadium saw this. he came in. he was doing the normal stretching and running when he was coming. he came in the non-striker end. as england was setting field for tamim who was on strike then he started running towards the strikers end then back to non-striking end. i looked like he took two quick runs.

someone from the stands commented. "zunaed ajke duck marbo, tai aage vaagei dour diya lolilo"

and next over he was out when he played half volley staight to square leg.

Ashraf-FTP
February 28, 2010, 10:05 PM
Yes, Zunaed stays as specialist slip catcher. A catch is easily worth 25 runs.
But for the catch to be taken, the catch chance has to be created first. And the catches are not that hard usually and Z isnt Rhodes. And if its worth 25 runs, I would rather have a batsman who can score more than that, I am sure anyone can take catches atleast close to Z's ones. But Z is a batsmen, who cant score, he cant stay in the team just for fielding.

Sohel
February 28, 2010, 10:07 PM
Tiring!

This type of JLJ (Jodi Laigga Jay) idiocy is precisely what we've been doing all these years, from the highest echelons of BCB all the way down to forum/EA Cricket experts and trigger happy juveniles, at the expense of fixing the fundamentals often discussed here. Fundamentals that can give our young guys an opportunity to develop, mature and have a far better chance to sustain success at the highest level. Wake up, read a little, listen a little, think a little and look at the hard reality beyond the numbers, and patiently look beyond band-aid solutions, psychosomatic projection and wishful thinking, and downright ignorance about the sport at the highest level.

XYZ for ABC, and when ABC fail to deliver as expected, bring back XYZ before playing with all of the combination and permutations therein. If that doesn't work, then there's all of the other letters in the alphabet to play with. Sadly, International cricket isn't about the Roman alphabet at all, so to speak.

Ashraf-FTP
February 28, 2010, 10:10 PM
Lol. Who the hell is XYZ anyways?? I dont think there is anyone with a name starting with x in BD cricket ;).

al-Sagar
February 28, 2010, 10:15 PM
the NCL matches are running on so if we want to add somebody to this squad it has to be players from barisal and sylhet at this moment for the 2nd odi. other wise we can drop only two players as this is a 13 man squad.

well its possible to add two of our specialist batsman rockibul and shahadat in

Gowza
February 28, 2010, 11:01 PM
Tiring!

This type of JLJ (Jodi Laigga Jay) idiocy is precisely what we've been doing all these years, from the highest echelons of BCB all the way down to forum/EA Cricket experts and trigger happy juveniles, at the expense of fixing the fundamentals often discussed here. Fundamentals that can give our young guys an opportunity to develop, mature and have a far better chance to sustain success at the highest level. Wake up, read a little, listen a little, think a little and look at the hard reality beyond the numbers, and patiently look beyond band-aid solutions, psychosomatic projection and wishful thinking, and downright ignorance about the sport at the highest level.

XYZ for ABC, and when ABC fail to deliver as expected, bring back XYZ before playing with all of the combination and permutations therein. If that doesn't work, then there's all of the other letters in the alphabet to play with. Sadly, International cricket isn't about the Roman alphabet at all, so to speak.

selection doesn't need to be difficult, you select the most talented and most consistent. ok it's not quite as simple as that, talent doesn't just mean being able to hit a boundary, they have to be talented technically, they have to have the eye to pick up the ball and they need the reflex's (attitude comes into it as well). it's a middle ground, the most taletned won't always be the most consistent and the most consistent won't always be the most talented, you pick the ones who have the best quality of that combination.

what you say about the current selection is correct, they select a proven failure (ash), drop him when he inevitabley fails only to replace him with 2 other proven failures (aftab/junaid). we know what we get from these players, none of them have gone back to domestic cricket and improved their weaknesses/flaws so the selectors are bringing back the same failed player rather than a better version of them which is what should happen if a player is brought back to the team.

they may as well try new options rather than continued failures, those continued failures haven't been improving and until they do should not be back, meanwhile give the other options ago, at this point it can't hurt the team.

Ajfar
February 28, 2010, 11:04 PM
But for the catch to be taken, the catch chance has to be created first. And the catches are not that hard usually and Z isnt Rhodes. And if its worth 25 runs, I would rather have a batsman who can score more than that, I am sure anyone can take catches atleast close to Z's ones. But Z is a batsmen, who cant score, he cant stay in the team just for fielding.

well if there is going to be at least 2 modon's in the team, my vote goes for Z. just because he can catch.

Fazal
February 28, 2010, 11:12 PM
....they select a proven failure (ash), drop him when he inevitabley fails only to replace him with 2 other proven failures (aftab/junaid). we know what we get from these players, none of them have gone back to domestic cricket and improved their weaknesses/flaws so the selectors are bringing back the same failed player rather than a better version of them which is what should happen if a player is brought back to the team.

they may as well try new options rather than continued failures, those continued failures haven't been improving and until they do should not be back, meanwhile give the other options ago, at this point it can't hurt the team.

Well said. They are changing players, but they are bringing back the wrong player at wrong time, betting with proven failures and hoping against hope for miracle to happen... which never happens. They need to trust their own local league a little bit and reward the constant performer regardless how lower standard is their local league.

bujhee kom
March 1, 2010, 12:06 AM
Ami khoob mentally bhenge porechi bhais and apas, beche thaka ekti jontrona!

AsifTheManRahman
March 1, 2010, 12:22 AM
Ami khoob mentally bhenge porechi bhais and apas, beche thaka ekti jontrona!
Burger bhai, you should join SS bhai, KP bhai and I in our quest for 37 duck burgers a piece. So far, all the ducks were stolen by Ashraful in the NCL and the Zimbabwean batsmen in the T20 against the West Indies. But we're confident that White Castle isn't out of reach.

Ashraf-FTP
March 1, 2010, 12:24 AM
well if there is going to be at least 2 modon's in the team, my vote goes for Z. just because he can catch.
Why not remove both the modons?? Thats my vote ;)

I am sure there are other better batsman, who can atleast be seen if they can perform in international stage. Rather than the modons failing all the time.

Gowza
March 1, 2010, 12:37 AM
Why not remove both the modons?? Thats my vote ;)

I am sure there are other better batsman, who can atleast be seen if they can perform in international stage. Rather than the modons failing all the time.

for sure, we will never know unless we give them a chance. bring on nazmus, can hit boundaries but he averages over 36 in list A and generally does pretty well in the shorter format. he's an opener so should be able to bat anywhere in the order.

bujhee kom
March 1, 2010, 12:39 AM
Burger bhai, you should join SS bhai, KP bhai and I in our quest for 37 duck burgers a piece. So far, all the ducks were stolen by Ashraful in the NCL and the Zimbabwean batsmen in the T20 against the West Indies. But we're confident that White Castle isn't out of reach.

Thank you dear Asif bhaiya! Baali hasher mangsho khaite ami ashtesi!!

_Rafi_
March 1, 2010, 07:09 AM
According to Ntv news, Shuvo will play tomorrow. I will be happy if they drop one of Zunaed or Aftab instead of him. They should seriously consider Rubel for Mash too.
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ashraful1
March 1, 2010, 07:21 AM
Whoever the team is PLEASE just beat England!!

_Rafi_
March 1, 2010, 09:13 AM
Mash and Junaed out for 2nd Odi
Shuvo and Rubel will play
Mash is rested for remaining two matches of the series. So the squad is now trimmed to 12 members
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Tiger Manc
March 1, 2010, 09:14 AM
According to Ntv news, Shuvo will play tomorrow. I will be happy if they drop one of Zunaed or Aftab instead of him. They should seriously consider Rubel for Mash too.
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I wouldn't trust Ntv news they said that Shuvo would play and Riyad would bat at #4 in the first ODI. I was so happy, and then on the day of the game I find out that Shuvo isn't playing, Riyad still bats at #7 and Junaid was playing!:sick:

_Rafi_
March 1, 2010, 09:24 AM
I wouldn't trust Ntv news they said that Shuvo would play and Riyad would bat at #4 in the first ODI. I was so happy, and then on the day of the game I find out that Shuvo isn't playing, Riyad still bats at #7 and Junaid was playing!:sick:
most of the time they provide correct news. Much better and reliable source than Crapinfo.
Tomorrows 11-
TIK
IK
MUSHY
SHAKIB
AFTAB
NAYEEM
RIYAD
SHUVO
RAJJAK
RUBEL
SHAFIUL
It will be interesting to watch how BD play with 3 slas and 2 offies.
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Tiger Manc
March 1, 2010, 09:34 AM
I know we need to rest Mash, but I'm not sure if Rubel should play in ODIs. He always get smacked for runs and proves very costly. I wouldn't mind if he takes a couple of wickets though. England will be able to handle wayward bowls with ease and I think they may target Rubel for his lack of accuracy.

_Rafi_
March 1, 2010, 09:47 AM
This BCB is run by a bunch of jokers. Why they have included Mash in the squad if if is not fit? The squad is also too small. They shouldn't have cut down Rock name from the original squad.
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babubangla
March 1, 2010, 07:10 PM
[বাংলা] ঢাকাতে সদ্যসমাপ্ত সাফ গেমসের মহিলা ফুটবলের প্রথমদিন ভারতীয় মহিলা ফুটবল দল ২-০ গোলের ব্যবধানে পরাজিত করে শ্রীলঙ্কান মহিলা ফুটবল দলকে। পরেরদিন দৈনিক সংবাদ পত্রিকায় এই খেলার বিবরন দিয়ে প্রকাশিত রিপোর্টে লেখা হয়ঃ


শুরু থেকেই শ্রীলঙ্কান মেয়েদের চেপে ধরে ভারত। ৯ মিনিটে মাইরাংথেম দলকে এগিয়ে নেন। ৪৫ মিনিটে সাসমিতা ব্যবধান বাড়ান। এরই মধ্যে তারা নষ্ট করে কয়েকটি সুযোগ।


ভারত যেভাবে শ্রীলঙ্কার মেয়েদের শুরু থেকেই চেপে ধরেছিল, আমাদেরও আজ ঠিক সেভাবেই ইংল্যান্ডকে শুরু থেকেই চেপে ধরতে হবে। [/বাংলা]

chol_bd123
March 1, 2010, 08:59 PM
most of the time they provide correct news. Much better and reliable source than Crapinfo.
Tomorrows 11-
TIK
IK
MUSHY
SHAKIB
AFTAB
NAYEEM
RIYAD
SHUVO
RAJJAK
RUBEL
SHAFIUL
It will be interesting to watch how BD play with 3 slas and 2 offies.
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why the hell is that dumbass playing. He was superb at one point but now he lost his form. Drop him and bring another bowler. I heard that there are a lot of good bowlers in the NCL

al-Sagar
March 1, 2010, 09:26 PM
accoridng to prothom alo, mash and zunaed our, rubel and shuvo in....... nasir to be 12th man

_Rafi_
March 1, 2010, 09:40 PM
accoridng to prothom alo, mash and zunaed our, rubel and shuvo in....... nasir to be 12th man
how Nasir wl be 12th man? He is now playing NCL
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