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WarWolf
March 12, 2010, 07:08 AM
Bangladesh cricket is going nowhere due to lack of proper management only. The best time for reformating our cricketing management and system is already gone. Yet it's better late than never.

BCB President: It's time for bring a new man in. Govt appointed an illiterate, dumb and arrogant person as the BCB chairman which is already having its effect on the cricket arena negatively. He is interfering in every thing and making situations complex. He promised to decentralize cricket by the April, 2010. No progress of this is visible yet. He is just typical politician who talks with a lot of promise but does nothing.


Selectors: Bagh mama needs to be removed from his post immediately. Bagh and co. does messing up the team by unplanned selection process. A long term selection policy must be prepared so that every selection committee remains consistent with their predecessors.


National Team Coach: Siddons is a good batting coach. However he is not a great strategician nor does he have a good insight for long term which is a must needed thing for a national team head coach. He should be removed from the head coach post and be nominated as the full time batting coach. We must appoint an eligible and qualified person as the head coach within the next 2 months. We must not forget that we have less than 1 year for preparing for the WC 2011.


Reforming BCB: BCB needs to be reformed. The current system is not efficient at all. There is no accountability in the organization. As the governing body of Cricket in Bangladesh and a money generating organization accountability is a must there. We need to appoint a good eligible person as the CEO as soon as possible.


National Team Manager: This Hira guy needs to be removed immediately. He doesn't know what he says.We must hire some eligible person for the post.

Raynman
March 12, 2010, 07:12 AM
Bangladesh cricket is going nowhere due to lack of proper management only. The best time for reformating our cricketing management and system is already gone. Yet it's better late than never.

BCB President: It's time for bring Govt appointed an illiterate, dumb and arrogant person as the BCB chairman which is already affecting on the cricket arena negatively. He is interfering in every thing and making situation complex. He promised to decentralize cricket by the April, 2010. No progress of this is visible yet. He is just typical politician who talks with a lot of promise but does nothing.


Selectors: Bagh mama needs to be removed from his post immediately. Bagh and co. does messing up the team by unplanned selection process. A long term selection policy must be prepared so that every selection committee remains consistent with their
predecessors.


] National Team Coach: Siddons is a good batting coach. However he is not a great strategician or does he have a good insight for long term which is a must needed thing for a national team head coach. He should be removed from the head coach post and be nominated as the full time batting coach. We must appoint an eligible and qualified person as the head coach within the next 2 months. We must not forget that we have less than 1 year for preparing for the WC 2011.[/B]


Reforming BCB: BCB needs to be reformed. The current system is not efficient at all. There is no accountability in the organization. As the governing body of Cricket in Bangladesh and a money generating organization accountability is a must there. We need to appoint a good eligible person as the CEO as soon as possible.


National Team Manager: This Hira guy needs to be removed immediately. He doesn't know what he says.We must hire some eligible person for the post.


WW, hope you have your bulletproof vest on. That is blasphemy you just spewed out in this site.

Bugz
March 12, 2010, 07:21 AM
Not blasphemy, just stupid.

BD-Shardul
March 12, 2010, 07:22 AM
BCB can remove Siddons, but the problem is, there are not many high profile people around who are willing to coach a team like ours. Are you sure that Richard McInnes would come and coach us as soon as we invite? Or do you think that Chacha would be better than Siddons?

If our players do not fight with heart every moment they spend in cricket, change in management, coach and selectors will make little difference. Look at Zimababwe. Doesn't matter if the whole country is in turmoil. Whenever they take field, they fight every moment, attack with whatever they have and never lose focus. This is the drive that comes from their heart and they do not give up until the last moment.

hbk619
March 12, 2010, 07:35 AM
what's the point of having siddons? what's the role for siddons? Sounds like he just taught australian players how to bat. or Buchanan liked him , and gave him a job for the aussie national team.

assistant coach: shujon
fielding coach: salahuddin
bowling coach: champaka
computer analyst, team manager, physio...etc

nsd3
March 12, 2010, 07:52 AM
Ebar kibhabe dekhabe learning curve going up? Unnotir Kheta puri!!! Even if BD batsmen score century in this test, there's no way one can defend today's performance.

yaseer
March 12, 2010, 07:52 AM
Agree with everything Sadi bhai.

Knowing our culture, nothing will happen to BCB president and "Homra-Chomras". But at least we should remove Jamie Siddons. Enough is enough, JS is costing us big with his "individual achievement" theory. It is now proven that he cannot make any sort strategic decision as a head coach. Make him specialist batting coach and appoint a head coach. Do it now!!! It is already late.

magic boy
March 12, 2010, 08:38 AM
Imo, Siddons will never agree to be only a batting coach of Bangladesh. or he may ask an amount which BCB wont agree to provide. and it seems unless we finish another world cup miserably no new coach is being appointed. and BD wont be a dominating tiger within this just 12 months. no more enough series/match against gr8 teams to prepare for being a stronger team. so the consequence of playing bad regularly will cause sacking Siddons after 2011's world cup. few changes in line up...again new young cubs under 23 years, sacking Shakib, new captain,a new high profile coach..lots of speeches bla bla...targeting for next World Cup 2015, before that lots of series with Zimbabwe, Shabnur, Fantasy Kingdom ..

auntu
March 12, 2010, 08:50 AM
[বাংলা]সাদী ভাই, বলেছেন ভালই কিন্তু হবার নয় একটাও।

=> বিসিবি সভাপতিঃ লোটা ৫ বছরের ইজারা নিয়ে এসেছে। হাতি দিয়ে টেনেও তাকে এই পোষ্ট থেকে সরানো সম্ভব নয়। বহু বছরের ইনভেস্ট, পলিটিকাল হেনা-ত্যানা এখন এতো সস্তায় ছেড়ে দিবে? আর তাকে সরাবে কে? নিজেদের দিকের ইনাটারেস্টতো ঠিকই রাখছে। বাংলাদেশের ক্রিকেটের বারোটা বাজাচ্ছে? এইটা তো বিবেচ্য নয় তার অভিভাবকদের কাছে।

=> সিলেক্টরঃ এই রকম লুলা লোথা আছে বলেইতো ছড়ি ঘোরাতে মজা। কি দরকার পরিবর্তনের?

=>কোচ সিডন্সঃ হাতে পায়ে ধরে সিডোন্সকে বাংলাদেশের কোচ করা হয়েছে। একজন ভালো মানের আন্তর্জাতিক কোচকে বাংলাদেশের কোচ হিসেবে পাওয়া খুবই কঠিন। শুধু কাজটি কঠিন বলে নয়। শুধু দলের কারনে নয়। কাজের পরিবেশ একদমই অনুকূল নয়। দেখেন না সিইও/চীফ ফিন্যান্স অফিসার হিসেবে যাদের নিয়গ দেয়া হয়েছিলো অতীতে কেই জয়েন করতে চান নাই। বিসিবি অত্যন্ত নিম্নমানসিকতার মানুষদের দ্বারা পরিচালিত হয়। এখানে কর্তাব্যক্তিদের গূটিবাজী করতে করতেই দিন চলে যায়।

=> বিসিবির রিফর্মঃ এইটা হবে আষ্টম আশ্চর্য। যদি কেউ এইটা করতে পারে। এর জন্য গাদ্দাফী অথবা সাদ্দাম হোসেন টাইপ মানুষ দরকার। অথবা অষ্টম হেনরী নিদেনপক্ষে বুশরে আওয়াজ দেয়া যেতে পারে। খোদাতালা যদি খাস রহমত করেন এছাড়া কোন আশা দেখি না।

=> টিম ম্যানেজারঃ সেই পুরানো তত্ত্ব। লোথা লুলা আর পায়ের নিচে দাবিয়ে রাখার চীরন্তন খেলা। [/বাংলা]

Zeeshan
March 12, 2010, 08:55 AM
I don't think drastic reformation is the answer, but the approach should be more in parallel to fabianism.

Tiger Manc
March 12, 2010, 09:14 AM
We definitely need to invest in a wicketkeeping and fielding coach.

WarWolf
March 12, 2010, 10:53 AM
[বাংলা]গোড়া কেটে রেখে আগায় পানি দিয়ে কোনো লাভ নাই। আগে গোড়া ঠিক করা লাগবে।[/বাংলা]

Bruno
March 12, 2010, 02:00 PM
Removing officials are NEVER gonna happen, so you must stop saying "we must do this and that..."

Who will? When? How?

Do u even recognize that the people you refer to in your thread don't even acknowledge your existence, much less what you "think" they should do.

Y even bother to incite words of firing and hiring, when there are no decision makers in BC, nor will anyone at BCB ever hear your sorry plea.

They are going to run the show the way they intended, and you are just a spectator.

So remain in the sidelines and weep in private.

Because it does not matter what you think about their performance on the job.

And this website is only for the handful of overseas fans mostly, who simply like to connect with fellow deshis on a fashionable topic: cricket.

Thats what this website does. Its just a social networking site, not a site with any depth or voice for BD cricket. None what so ever.

Ajfar
March 12, 2010, 03:13 PM
and this management will go and a new management will come and 6 months later we will visit this thread all over again. Its a never ending cycle.

Eshen
March 12, 2010, 04:54 PM
[বাংলা]গোড়া কেটে রেখে আগায় পানি দিয়ে কোনো লাভ নাই। আগে গোড়া ঠিক করা লাগবে।[/বাংলা]
From that perspective, the whole political system in Bangladesh needs to be changed, otherwise incompetent people will always end up in key positions.

Eshen
March 12, 2010, 04:56 PM
We definitely need to invest in a wicketkeeping and fielding coach.
For now, I think that can make a world of difference for the national team.

zainab
March 12, 2010, 05:23 PM
We definitely need to invest in a wicketkeeping and fielding coach.

How about a new bowling coach? the bowling is toothless.

Bashie
March 12, 2010, 09:51 PM
Couldn't stop myself from sharing some of my thoughts.

After watching a disappointed day of test match, there are some important points to notice.

1) Shaqib didn't look haapy to approach this test match, May be a management conflict is just disturing him.

2) Decision to field is not an individual one so the whole team is accountable for that.

3) Personally, I am not happy to see Razzak as a specialist spinner in test matches. Does it really take a rocket scientist to understand that razzak is not a test material? Again, I have serious doubt in the ability of selectors. A drastic change in every department is not the answer, I believe, but again it looks like right people is not in the right place to handle an ever growing organization like BCB.

4) Surely, there is lot happening off the field which is affecting our player's spirit for the game.

kiriket
March 12, 2010, 10:35 PM
প্লেয়ার রা খেলে ঘোড়ার আন্ডা, আর সব দোষ বিসিবির... এইটা একটা আজব ফোরাম। আফগান, আয়ারল্যান্ড, জিম্বাবুয়ের কি আছে? তারা তো উন্নতি করছে ঠিকই। সমান সুযোগ কেনিয়া পেলে এতদিনে অন্য দল গুলোর বারোটা বাজিয়ে দিত।

kalpurush
March 13, 2010, 01:08 AM
Couldn't stop myself from sharing some of my thoughts.

After watching a disappointed day of test match, there are some important points to notice.

1) Shaqib didn't look haapy to approach this test match, May be a management conflict is just disturing him.

2) Decision to field is not an individual one so the whole team is accountable for that.

3) Personally, I am not happy to see Razzak as a specialist spinner in test matches. Does it really take a rocket scientist to understand that razzak is not a test material? Again, I have serious doubt in the ability of selectors. A drastic change in every department is not the answer, I believe, but again it looks like right people is not in the right place to handle an ever growing organization like BCB.

4) Surely, there is lot happening off the field which is affecting our player's spirit for the game.
Well said.

But I still don't understand why on earth we decided to bat second?!!!

Ahmed_B
March 13, 2010, 02:57 AM
[বাংলা]কিন্তু প্রশ্ন হল...বিড়ালের গলায় ঘন্টা টা বাঁধবে কে?!...[/বাংলা]

alibangali
March 13, 2010, 06:30 AM
Well said.

But I still don't understand why on earth we decided to bat second?!!!

Too scared team would rather wait for something to happen then show some courage and make things happen. With this poor mentality nothing will change
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AK420
March 13, 2010, 09:41 AM
We don't need to think about or selectors or team management, all we need is to fortify our cricket team. I think we need to bring on our senior players like Mashud

Rifat
March 13, 2010, 11:51 AM
and this management will go and a new management will come and 6 months later we will visit this thread all over again. Its a never ending cycle.

LOL.

How about the management team that was during Whatmore Era? Were they any good? Enlighten me, folks i wasn' too involved with Bangladesh Cricket back then.


but it seems Bangladesh got a lot of positives from the 2004-2007 Whatmore era...:)

was it partially due to good management or many other factors involved such as:

* the coming of Mohammad Rafique
* U-19 players like Aftab, Nafees carrying their good form to international cricket
* Mortaza staying injury free and often getting early blows.
* Emergence of Syed Rasel,Abdur Razzak(ODI), Shahadat Hossain(Test), Ashraful Sparking in patches...
* Core 11 identified and Improved upon(again I would credit Whatmore for this!!!)
* Consistently playing relatively weaker opponents and causing ODI upsets here and there => building confidence => to the next level.

so it has to do with a lot of factors, IMO! what we have seen in the recent past is a combination of poor decision making, lack of purpose, lack of winning mindset, and some players who lacks the execution to properly play Test Cricket. Too much Politics as WarWolf Brother mentioned(outside factors affecting cricket too much!!). Unforunately in cricket, sometimes a little thing such as a wrong umpire decision or not concentrating on one ball can be very costly.

Ajfar
March 13, 2010, 11:56 AM
who was our bowling coach during world cup 2007?

_Rafi_
March 13, 2010, 01:13 PM
[বাংলা]কিন্তু প্রশ্ন হল...বিড়ালের গলায় ঘন্টা টা বাঁধবে কে?!...[/বাংলা]

age tho ugly biraler gola theke ghonta khulte hobe. Only S. Hasina can do it.

auntu
March 13, 2010, 01:39 PM
[বাংলা]কিন্তু প্রশ্ন হল...বিড়ালের গলায় ঘন্টা টা বাঁধবে কে?!...[/বাংলা]
[বাংলা]কেউ না।
বাধতে যাবে কোন দুঃখে? [/বাংলা]

BD d best
March 14, 2010, 01:56 AM
[বাংলা]সাদী ভাই, বলেছেন ভালই কিন্তু হবার নয় একটাও।

=> বিসিবি সভাপতিঃ লোটা ৫ বছরের ইজারা নিয়ে এসেছে। হাতি দিয়ে টেনেও তাকে এই পোষ্ট থেকে সরানো সম্ভব নয়। বহু বছরের ইনভেস্ট, পলিটিকাল হেনা-ত্যানা এখন এতো সস্তায় ছেড়ে দিবে? আর তাকে সরাবে কে? নিজেদের দিকের ইনাটারেস্টতো ঠিকই রাখছে। বাংলাদেশের ক্রিকেটের বারোটা বাজাচ্ছে? এইটা তো বিবেচ্য নয় তার অভিভাবকদের কাছে।

=> সিলেক্টরঃ এই রকম লুলা লোথা আছে বলেইতো ছড়ি ঘোরাতে মজা। কি দরকার পরিবর্তনের?

=>কোচ সিডন্সঃ হাতে পায়ে ধরে সিডোন্সকে বাংলাদেশের কোচ করা হয়েছে। একজন ভালো মানের আন্তর্জাতিক কোচকে বাংলাদেশের কোচ হিসেবে পাওয়া খুবই কঠিন। শুধু কাজটি কঠিন বলে নয়। শুধু দলের কারনে নয়। কাজের পরিবেশ একদমই অনুকূল নয়। দেখেন না সিইও/চীফ ফিন্যান্স অফিসার হিসেবে যাদের নিয়গ দেয়া হয়েছিলো অতীতে কেই জয়েন করতে চান নাই। বিসিবি অত্যন্ত নিম্নমানসিকতার মানুষদের দ্বারা পরিচালিত হয়। এখানে কর্তাব্যক্তিদের গূটিবাজী করতে করতেই দিন চলে যায়।

=> বিসিবির রিফর্মঃ এইটা হবে আষ্টম আশ্চর্য। যদি কেউ এইটা করতে পারে। এর জন্য গাদ্দাফী অথবা সাদ্দাম হোসেন টাইপ মানুষ দরকার। অথবা অষ্টম হেনরী নিদেনপক্ষে বুশরে আওয়াজ দেয়া যেতে পারে। খোদাতালা যদি খাস রহমত করেন এছাড়া কোন আশা দেখি না।

=> টিম ম্যানেজারঃ সেই পুরানো তত্ত্ব। লোথা লুলা আর পায়ের নিচে দাবিয়ে রাখার চীরন্তন খেলা। [/বাংলা]

auntu bhai,gr8 post..the best post i've seen here(BC) so far.. নিষ্ঠুর সত্য !
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akabir77
June 26, 2010, 09:33 AM
Finally a good news on BCB they have been pursuing my cousin to take up the BCB CEO job for some time now but he was reluctant to take it up showing the corruption and what not in BCB. he had his own demands against corruption and said he will only join if those demands were met and finally bcb has agreed to that. He is on his way to bd to take up the job inshhallah if every thing goes according to plan.

He is bd cricketer elder brother of computer analyst Nasu. was a captain of abahani for long time, was a keeper too. could bowl with both hands and would do that in P. league... lol

Anyway I wish him good luck and hope fully bcb will get run smoothly from now on...

magic boy
June 26, 2010, 09:37 AM
^ good to know that..change is needed and exactly like this

al-Sagar
June 26, 2010, 11:17 AM
Finally a good news on BCB they have been pursuing my cousin to take up the BCB CEO job for some time now but he was reluctant to take it up showing the corruption and what not in BCB. he had his own demands against corruption and said he will only join if those demands were met and finally bcb has agreed to that. He is on his way to bd to take up the job inshhallah if every thing goes according to plan.

He is bd cricketer elder brother of computer analyst Nasu. was a captain of abahani for long time, was a keeper too. could bowl with both hands and would do that in P. league... lol

Anyway I wish him good luck and hope fully bcb will get run smoothly from now on...

when will the official announcement of the appointment to be made ????

akabir77
June 26, 2010, 11:34 AM
when will the official announcement of the appointment to be made ????

Don't know yet. he just went to BD so hopefully by july...

bujhee kom
June 26, 2010, 11:09 PM
Akabir bhai, Alhamdulillah! This is great news!
Also Akabir bhai, from now on then, if anything bad happens in BCB we will curse at you!! apni amader dil-gurda/kalijar tukrar moton, please kichu mone korben naa jeno dada.

hbk619
June 26, 2010, 11:29 PM
"the assasination of all top level corrupted ppl in bd"

er theke politics bondho korar r kono solution nei:sick:

shakibrulz
June 27, 2010, 12:25 AM
Wow, great news for us fans, Akabir bhai, all the very best for him!

al-Sagar
June 27, 2010, 02:09 AM
Akabir bhai, Alhamdulillah! This is great news!
Also Akabir bhai, from now on then, if anything bad happens in BCB we will curse at you!! apni amader dil-gurda/kalijar tukrar moton, please kichu mone korben naa jeno dada.

ajke the amader joto dabi dawa sob Akabir bhai er kase forward korbo .... ....

kee bolen, khela tahole besh bhaloi jombe

Baundule
June 27, 2010, 10:02 AM
Very good post, WW bhai.

FagunerAgun
June 27, 2010, 09:11 PM
When BD/BCB management is good, then lot of high profile coaches will be interested in BD.

zman
June 27, 2010, 09:21 PM
Now which comes first? Good BCB management or good BD management aka good politicians? Sounds like the classic chicken and egg problem to me

czone
June 27, 2010, 09:44 PM
Removing officials are NEVER gonna happen, so you must stop saying "we must do this and that..."

Who will? When? How?

Do u even recognize that the people you refer to in your thread don't even acknowledge your existence, much less what you "think" they should do.

Y even bother to incite words of firing and hiring, when there are no decision makers in BC, nor will anyone at BCB ever hear your sorry plea.

They are going to run the show the way they intended, and you are just a spectator.

So remain in the sidelines and weep in private.

Because it does not matter what you think about their performance on the job.

And this website is only for the handful of overseas fans mostly, who simply like to connect with fellow deshis on a fashionable topic: cricket.

Thats what this website does. Its just a social networking site, not a site with any depth or voice for BD cricket. None what so ever.
You are so right!! This is how it is and this how it will stay!! Almost every organization in every sector around the country is full of bad adminstration, nepotism, corruption etc. that nobody will ever be able to change (unfortunately).

kalpurush
June 27, 2010, 10:21 PM
Very good post, WW bhai.
Indeed indeed :)

BANFAN
June 28, 2010, 01:58 AM
WW, I just have an objection to one sentence; I don't find any evidence to concur with that sentence "JS is good batting coach" Any proof?

A good batting coach will never try to chaange the natural ability of a player. Rathar, will work to make him better in that what he is good at. He didn't/couldn't to change TI & shakib, so they flourished, but he spent too much effort in trying to change Ash, and he successfully ruined him.

WarWolf
June 30, 2010, 06:10 AM
I am slowly stopping posting here specially in BC section. What's the usage of wasting my valuable time for nothing. Nothing will happen. Bangladesh cricket is about to die.

meazz1
June 30, 2010, 07:44 AM
I am slowly stopping posting here specially in BC section. What's the usage of wasting my valuable time for nothing. Nothing will happen. Bangladesh cricket is about to die.

I thought BD cricket is already dead and we are just trying to bring it back from the dead.
How many times have we seen BD beats any two top ranked team in a given year?

nahaz
June 30, 2010, 07:49 AM
I thought BD cricket is already dead and we are just trying to bring it back from the dead.
How many times have we seen BD beats any two top ranked team in a given year?

We saw Bangladesh beat Australia and India within a year in one-dayers in 2005, back when they were both at or near the top. Oh wait, it was Ashraful. Oh wait, he's not himself anymore and now out of the team.

Purbasha T
June 30, 2010, 12:36 PM
Holy Moly! The last time we beat a full strength G8 team was back in 2009 January. :o

meazz1
June 30, 2010, 12:40 PM
we are in trouble if we have to go back 5 yrs to find 2 wins in a given year..../:)

WarWolf
July 15, 2010, 08:50 PM
We need to see completely new faces in the board. No Kamal, Jalal, Mahbub, Lipu .....in the BCB are acceptable.

Rifat
July 15, 2010, 08:57 PM
I am slowly stopping posting here specially in BC section. What's the usage of wasting my valuable time for nothing. Nothing will happen. Bangladesh cricket is about to die.

Very Sad ending to a promising tale...

Ajfar
July 15, 2010, 09:37 PM
We need to see completely new faces in the board. No Kamal, Jalal, Mahbub, Lipu .....in the BCB are acceptable.

Also no kamal er bhagna or bhatija. jalal er meyer jamai or nati. or mahbub er shala. or lipur negnta kaler dosto.

WarWolf
July 17, 2010, 04:04 AM
Also no kamal er bhagna or bhatija. jalal er meyer jamai or nati. or mahbub er shala. or lipur negnta kaler dosto.
Ei restriction gulo impose korle BCB bondho kore dite hobe.

yaseer
July 17, 2010, 04:50 AM
We need to see completely new faces in the board. No Kamal, Jalal, Mahbub, Lipu .....in the BCB are acceptable.

Sadi bhai, as fas as I know, they are elected directors of BCB. They have not come through by political selection as Lotus Kamal. We need to remove the head (the loitta) first, appoint someone like Saber and appoint a CEO to give BCB a professional look in its operation.

WarWolf
July 17, 2010, 05:16 AM
Sadi bhai, as fas as I know, they are elected directors of BCB. They have not come through by political selection as Lotus Kamal. We need to remove the head (the loitta) first, appoint someone like Saber and appoint a CEO to give BCB a professional look in its operation.
Actually they are selected in terms of understanding between different groups. They had no competitors against their nominations as far I remember.

WarWolf
July 20, 2010, 02:04 PM
It's a must must and MUST NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

SS
July 20, 2010, 02:06 PM
It's a must must and MUST NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

who will get them out there...there are very powerful...we can't do anything...unless otherwise authority takes steps