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fishyguy
March 13, 2010, 11:49 PM
How about you guys in BD start protesting and burning their effigies like they do in India and Pakistan lol! But who would be their replacements. By now its pretty obvious they are completely out of their depth at international level. Mushfiq needs to give up keeping and just bat. BD will lose a bad keeper and maybe gain an improved more stable top order if he bats at #3.Mahmudullah #4 and Shakib #5. Who else can open? And who can replace aftab and Junaid. People in BD should start some kind of movement, write letters to management show up at their offices, contact the media, start porotests and demonstrations. Start a revolution for change!

Sohel
March 13, 2010, 11:55 PM
Don't like to mimic the Indo-Pak when it comes to anything, let alone fugly cricket related stupidity.

Zunaed has had the same front foot and bottom hand issues for the past 3 years now. Bench his @$$ but not sure who can do better and sustain that at any acceptable level.

Aftab needs to fight for a position in our Special Olympics Cricket team. Almost anybody will do better than him.

No real, non jodi-laigga-jay alternative to Bhimrul for the opening slot. Yes, that's how pathetic our pipeline is for the top order.

al-Sagar
March 14, 2010, 12:19 AM
until rakibul finishes a long rehabilitation and comeback process.....
until ashraful comes back with big scores in domestic arena.....

lets try this ... ....

tamim
jahurul
nazimuddin/farhad/naeem
mushfiq
riadh
shakib
faisal/nasir/naeem
shagir/dhiman
bowler 1
bowler 2
bowler 3

cant decide who are the bowlers

AsifTheManRahman
March 14, 2010, 12:53 AM
In the long run, I see our middle order consisting of Mushy, Riyad, Nayeem and Shakib. Imrul might be lucky because our pipeline for openers may not be good enough.

Tiger444
March 14, 2010, 01:00 AM
Isnt jahurul an opener in the ncl? If he is then why dont we slot him in instead of imrul for test? I think jahurul should be a good opener 4 us alongside tamim..

magic boy
March 14, 2010, 01:00 AM
In the long run, I see our middle order consisting of Mushy, Riyad, Nayeem and Shakib. Imrul might be lucky because our pipeline for openers may not be good enough.

What if Nafees make a sweet comeback?:smug:. He might get as many chances as Aftab is getting to make the comeback. but he dint. He can be tested for 2, 3 position ! he's not that bad comparing to Aftab/Zunaed :p

also Alok Kapali should get minimum testing chance!

al-Sagar
March 14, 2010, 01:16 AM
What if Nafees make a sweet comeback?:smug:. He might get as many chances as Aftab is getting to make the comeback. but he dint. He can be tested for 2, 3 position ! he's not that bad comparing to Aftab/Zunaed :p

also Alok Kapali should get minimum testing chance!

yes, nafees is certainly better than junaed and imrul, when he gets back. nafees has the least weakness to overcome out of those three

Zunaid
March 14, 2010, 01:21 AM
What if Nafees make a sweet comeback?:smug:. He might get as many chances as Aftab is getting to make the comeback. but he dint. He can be tested for 2, 3 position ! he's not that bad comparing to Aftab/Zunaed :p

also Alok Kapali should get minimum testing chance!

Do not be afraid to post your support for Kapali. Go ahead - post it again in black on white and not white on gray.

fishyguy
March 14, 2010, 01:23 AM
Please no Nafees either he is in the same category as Imrul and the rest. Just get someone from NCL who have the highest averages

magic boy
March 14, 2010, 01:29 AM
Do not be afraid to post your support for Kapali. Go ahead - post it again in black on white and not white on gray.

:p

"also Alok Kapali should get minimum testing chance!"

yes Alok Kapali got some points to be in the team while others are not performing well. I mean Alok is way better than Aftab Ahmed and Zunaed Siddique. As an all rounder of course. I dont understand why team management isn't thinking of him. They've said in public that they will work for Ashraful to help to be back into the team. but what's their view on guy's like Alok Kapali. Aftab is wasting the chances frequently. while Nafees,Kapali could use it and perform accordingly.
So lets try Kapali

WarWolf
March 14, 2010, 01:42 AM
:p

"also Alok Kapali should get minimum testing chance!"

yes Alok Kapali got some points to be in the team while others are not performing well. I mean Alok is way better than Aftab Ahmed and Zunaed Siddique. As an all rounder of course. I dont understand why team management isn't thinking of him. They've said in public that they will work for Ashraful to help to be back into the team. but what's their view on guy's like Alok Kapali. Aftab is wasting the chances frequently. while Nafees,Kapali could use it and perform accordingly.
So lets try Kapali

Magic boy,
Please show me something significant they have made with the bat since coming back from ICL so that they can be considered again for the national side. Personal choice should never be the key for selection in the national team.

dolcevita
March 14, 2010, 01:46 AM
Let try Farhad and Jahurul ahead of aftab and junaid we have not much to lose
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Ashfaq
March 14, 2010, 01:51 AM
Pick me and my mates instead of the three ram chagols. We promise we'll score at least in double digits and won't get out in embarrassing fashion.

magic boy
March 14, 2010, 02:15 AM
Magic boy,
Please show me something significant they have made with the bat since coming back from ICL so that they can be considered again for the national side. Personal choice should never be the key for selection in the national team.

Show me something significant made by Aftab/Zunaed for last couple of series so that they can be considered for next any game !
My point was "Since other guys are failing to prove a point for their stance then these players should get minimum chance for a try/change at least"
Nafees got a test match to prove but that was stupidly handed over to him. and then Aftab Ahmed getting match after match but failed and he himself doesn't believe selectors can choose him for next match. Its kind of discrimination among the players (specially ICL players)
Since we're not getting positive result keeping some contentiously failed players why not trying other options(newcomer+old faces) :p

Catskills
March 14, 2010, 02:15 AM
This is a high time to try Zuhurl as an opening partner with Tamin. Faisal and Farhad should be given chances in tests.
In regards to Alok, after watching ICL, I though he was made for 20/20, then he did poorly in domestic cricket. I still believe that he should be given a chance to play some 20/20. My feeling is that he will do pretty good in 20/20.
In SLA department, if the team management does not like Shuvo then please bring Saqlain instead of Razzaq (2 wickets against 157 runs- with about 80 average.)

WarWolf
March 14, 2010, 02:20 AM
Show me something significant made by Aftab/Zunaed for last couple of series so that they can be considered for next any game !
My point was "Since other guys are failing to prove a point for their stance then these players should get minimum chance for a try/change at least"
Nafees got a test match to prove but that was stupidly handed over to him. and then Aftab Ahmed getting match after match but failed and he himself doesn't believe selectors can choose him for next match. Its kind of discrimination among the players (specially ICL players)
Since we're not getting positive result keeping some contentiously failed players why not trying other options(newcomer+old faces) :p

Aftab and Zubaed are out of equations. We had been talking about Jahirul and Farhad who have been performing very well in the domestic level for quite some time.

wiseshah
March 14, 2010, 02:24 AM
hopefully someday we will play with XI players, before start of every series, we have 4 guys almost near dead end. tired of playing with only 3 or 4 players. and if those 3 or 4 (sakib-tamim-mushfiq-riad) fails we are totally screwed.

i dont want any old discarded back, unless they show some form.

so far, after recent tournament result--- i prefer either

jahirul-farhad-faisal-shuvagoto-shohrawardi shuvo should replace them in test, no body else deserve to replace besides these players. They showed tremendous courage, patience, dedication and consistency. so i will support them till the end. if any discarded performs, i have no objection of playing them or bring them. but at this moment, i prefer only Top NCL players.

Catskills
March 14, 2010, 02:30 AM
hopefully someday we will play with XI players, before start of every series, we have 4 guys almost near dead end. tired of playing with only 3 or 4 players. and if those 3 or 4 (sakib-tamim-mushfiq-riad) fails we are totally screwed.

i dont want any old discarded back, unless they show some form.

so far, after recent tournament result--- i prefer either

jahirul-farhad-faisal-shuvagoto-shohrawardi shuvo should replace them in test, no body else deserve to replace besides these players. They showed tremendous courage, patience, dedication and consistency. so i will support them till the end. if any discarded performs, i have no objection of playing them or bring them. but at this moment, i prefer only Top NCL players.

Yup Yup.. Hopefully in the 2nd test.. they will be selected.

wiseshah
March 14, 2010, 02:57 AM
but our team dont believe in too much change.i can guarantee u, u will see only 1 change maximum, then following test another one player change. at the end of the year we will lose all the matches. i think we need immediate 4 change plus wkt keeper change. mushy shouldnt keep, period.

nahaz
March 14, 2010, 03:21 AM
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jahirul-farhad-faisal-shuvagoto-shohrawardi shuvo should replace them in test, no body else deserve to replace besides these players.

Ditto...lineup for teh 2nd test should ideally be this:
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Zunaed Siddique
3. Jahurul Islam
4. Sakib Al-Hasan
5. Mahmudullah Riyad
6. Mushfiqur Rahim
7. Faisal Hossain
8. Naeem Islam
9.Shahadat Hossain
10. Rubel Hossain
11. Shafiul Islam

Its between in-form domestic player Omi and out of form experienced Zunaed at the top. They both get in since we do not have any reliable no.3, and its too much to ask for a debutant to open the batting. Plus Tamim has an understanding with Zunaed. This costs a place to Farhad Hossain. Rakib may replace Zunaed in which case Zahurul Islam Omi would open.

I want Faisal in the team since he is very experienced and has been one of the top scorers for the last two years. He should be the next in-line to debut if any batsman gets to debut in the next year or so. Faisal's career average is also better than the less experienced Farhad. He is in at no.7 to make sure he does not get exposed to fresh pacers going all out at him.

Sakib is in at no.4. Since he sacrifices himself anyway, I'm sure he wouldn't mind going ahead of Riyad to protect Riyad. IF he indeed pulls his head in, thats even better for the team.

Lastly,Razzak seems useless in tests, and Enam is out of form,so no point having a 2nd specialist spinner with Sakib. Let's bring back Shafiul Islam and have a three-men pace attack to have a three men spin attack in combination with Sakib-Riyad-Naeem. Shafi is prob our 2nd most effective bowler in tests behind Sakib.

P.S: Shuvogoto is too inexperienced to be considered for tests for now IMO. Suhrawardi Shuvo is an option for specialist spinner in future and should be in test squads of XV in future (England series). Also, don't forget we still need a keeper.

P.P.S: Any player that debuts should get 3 matches to prove themselves unless they are an absolute shocker like Hannan Sarkar (no offense).

bangla-red
March 14, 2010, 03:29 AM
One of the replacements must be a wicketkeeper.

wiseshah
March 14, 2010, 03:39 AM
One of the replacements must be a wicketkeeper.


must

nannu
March 14, 2010, 04:12 AM
tamim
mushfiqur
rokibul
mahmudullah
shakib
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rubel
shafiul
raz

cricman
March 14, 2010, 04:13 AM
Our Next Test after this one in SNBS is in Lords Cricket Ground in May Where it's britally cold and Conditions are the toughest to bat on.

All these NCL players no Disrespect to them, will get eaten Alive vs British University let Alone England.

If you want to Debut players you do it in Batting Friendly conditions.

You do it Slowly, Cap em Against Holland or Scotland at the Tail end of the England Tour, make em feel good bout themselves, than work em up.

In the Mean time you stick with the Status Quo

Catskills
March 14, 2010, 04:16 AM
Need a repalcement for Aftab
Need a repalcement for Zunaid
Need a repalcement for Imrul
Need a replacement for Razzak
Pace department suck, but I suppse we have no choice...
We didnt have to take these 4 players in the first test. The team management showed nothing but arrogance and ego to take them. At least 2 batsmen and Razzak must to be repalced.

Rabz
March 14, 2010, 04:19 AM
I'd like to give Jahurul Amio a go in the next test match.
After all, he couldn't do any worse than what the Holy Trinity is doing at the moment.

Junaed really needs to go. He bores me to death when he bats.

Its only a matter of time Ash makes a come back, not because of his good deeds, but because of the moronic deeds of the incumbent 2 3 and 4.

Riyad should bat at no3.
Sakib at 4
Mushy at 5
Naeem at 6.

Oh, when Ash does come back and mind you he will on the England tour, he can pick his own place.
3 or 4, its upto him.

Tormuz
March 14, 2010, 04:21 AM
Yes i agree with the title. We must replace them in the next match. If they can't score in this flat batting friendly wicket then i wonder what will they do when they will go in England?

Also need to get rid of Shahadat. Her is the worst pacer in Bangladesh atm. He makes Taposh/Kabir/Anwar better than him.:sick:

Anyway, this should be the playing XI for next test.
1)Tamim
2)Kayes/Zunaid
3)Zahirul Islam
4)Musfiq
5)Riyad
6)Shakib
7)Faisal
8)Nayeem
9)Shuvo
10)Shafiul
11)Rubel

Catskills
March 14, 2010, 04:25 AM
Let try Farhad and Jahurul ahead of aftab and junaid we have not much to lose
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Yup... both are quite suitable for test. We should also reward them for excellent performacne in NCL. Specially in the time when our top order batsman are failing over and over again. Mr. chief selector- stop this insanity of keeping too much faith on this non-performing players.

Catskills
March 14, 2010, 04:30 AM
Yes i agree with the title. We must replace them in the next match. If they can't score in this flat batting friendly wicket then i wonder what will they do when they will go in England?

Also need to get rid of Shahadat. Her is the worst pacer in Bangladesh atm. He makes Taposh/Kabir/Anwar better than him.:sick:

Anyway, this should be the playing XI for next test.
1)Tamim
2)Kayes/Zunaid
3)Zahirul Islam
4)Musfiq
5)Riyad
6)Shakib
7)Faisal
8)Nayeem
9)Shuvo
10)Shafiul
11)Rubel

I like your selection very much except # 2 Kayes/Zunaid- both will fail.

Go_Bangladesh
March 14, 2010, 04:31 AM
I always believed that if your wicket keeper is a major batsman for your team as Mushfiq is in our case, as Sangakkara is for Sri Lanka, like the Lankan's we should play with two keepers (for a long time they played Prasana Jayawardene, dont know if they still do in tests). I would go with making Khaled Mashud come out of retirement and keep and bat at number 8, his keeping is unparallel in Bangladesh, he is a solid lower order batsmen and he will provide a senior figure within the test side(only bring him back for the test side). He would be 1 replacement (for Aftab).

By looking at a players technique you can tell if he is good enough or not. And he will prove that with his stats. I havent seen Jahurul but statistically he should come in the side as the replacement of Zunaed and open or bat at first down if the selectors and coaches, having watched him believe his technique is good as well as his stats. The reason I say this is because I have watched quite a few games of Faisal Hossain. His records seem just too good and many of you may not have seen him but his technique is based of hand eye cordination, not ala Sehwag, his batting and scoring style is more like Mohammad Rafique. He SHOULD NOT come into the national side at any cost what so ever. Please everyone get Faisal Hossain out of your mind. I watched him in the 2004 asia cup for Bangladesh and he was so hopelessly poor and looked so out of place against international class bowling eventhough the pitch very batting friendly. The third replacement, maybe not for the second test but for later tours, I would bring Ash back and let him play the way he prefers. No need to make him responsibly, just let him play his game like we let Tamim play his game and he will get his form back and play well once in a while but play really well then. Siddons did wonders to Shakib, Tamim, Mahmudullah, Mushfiq and Nayeem but did damage to Ash by asking him to come in at number 3 and play more responsibly and as a result Ash lost his natural ability to strike the ball and score boundaries and take nice singles. I remember the innings he played against Srilanka and he looked so good. I want that Ash back.

So my three replacements would be Khaled Mashud for Aftab, Jahurul Islam for Zunaed and Ash for Imrul. Juhurul to open Mahmud or Mushfiq at number 3 and the rest of the order is the standard one. This way we dont give too many debuts which is never a good thing. Bringing another young new wicketkeeper would hurt Mushfiq's confidence but if its Mashud, a senior, it will help him more as he will get training and have less to worry about during the game. Jahurul if he is deemed technically good then may turn out be a great asset up the order and Ash is Ash but better lower down the order which would help him play more freely.

Tormuz
March 14, 2010, 04:43 AM
I like your selection very much except # 2 Kayes/Zunaid- both will fail.

I dont like both of them too. But we don't have better opener atm than these 2:(

Raynman
March 14, 2010, 08:23 AM
If we picked bowlers and Keepers based on bowling and keeping it would make a huge difference. Today Riad and Naeem are picked as batsman and their ability to bowl (they would never qualify as a first pick bowler) leads selectors to pick less qualified bowlers. Same for keeping with Mushy.

This puts too much pressure on Shakib during bowling/fielding and now his batting is paying the price.

I bet is Siddons could he would pick the top 11 batsmen and expect them to figure out bowling. I wonder if thats why Tamim is being given overs now.

kazis2007
March 14, 2010, 08:38 AM
ash replace imrul as a opener
alok replace zunaid in the middle order
Aftab will be unchanged

beshideshi
March 14, 2010, 09:05 AM
I am actually surprised there is no *bring back Ash* thread.

alibangali
March 14, 2010, 09:21 AM
I am actually surprised there is no *bring back Ash* thread.

thats because roqibul has stolen the show LOL

view360
March 14, 2010, 09:50 AM
ash replace imrul as a opener
alok replace zunaid in the middle order
Aftab will be unchanged

All these three Ash , Alok and Aftab belong to an elite club called " অলৌ্কিক কপালী " where Aftab is the current member. Being a member of this elite club they do not need to score runs because that is not what talented people do. Scoring run is the worst mistake highly talented people can afford to do .
Look at Tamim and Mahmudullah who have been scoring big runs consistantly . They certainly have no talent as per the tressure of talents BD media . We also need to drop Tamim and Mahmud and bring in some extra ordinary talents. Remember , we need talents and experience , not runs .

roman
March 14, 2010, 09:54 AM
I would like to see Aftab batting at # 6/7. He is not a #3 Batsman. #3 position has been a problem in BD team for the last few years. They should allow Johurul/Mushy to bat at # 3. I really want to see how Johurul does in international stage. Let us all hope for the best

BD-Shardul
March 14, 2010, 10:09 AM
ash replace imrul as a opener
alok replace zunaid in the middle order
Aftab will be unchanged

AAA = Proven recipe for total disaster.

kiriket
March 14, 2010, 10:34 AM
I wish we had a team like this instead of those 3 morons:

Tamim Iqbal
Jahurul Islam
Sohrawardi Shuvo ( in Home soil) SLA
Farhad Hossain offie
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mahmudullah Riyad offie
Sakib Al Hasan SLA
Faisal Hossain SLA
Nasir Hossain Off break
Talha Jubayer M. fast
Safiul Islam Fast M.
Rubel Hossain (in away in place of Shuvo) Fast M.

Dont underestimate shuvo, he got ton of wickets in u-19, Academy tours and in NCL, he is probably the highest wicket taker in last 3 years.

FagunerAgun
March 14, 2010, 10:38 AM
jahirul-farhad-faisal-shuvagoto-shohrawardi shuvo should replace them in test, no body else deserve to replace besides these players. They showed tremendous courage, patience, dedication and consistency. so i will support them till the end. if any discarded performs, i have no objection of playing them or bring them. but at this moment, i prefer only Top NCL players.
interesting, I am waiting to see them.

Ajfar
March 14, 2010, 11:03 AM
to be honest I don't think its fair that Aftab is getting all these chances specially when SN only got one chance, even thought if SN was given more chances chances of him failing miserably are really high, nonetheless if Aftab can stick around even after poor shot selection, then why not SN. I'm not asking for SN return, i'm just pointing out that it was unfair on his side.

AsifTheManRahman
March 14, 2010, 12:15 PM
Our Next Test after this one in SNBS is in Lords Cricket Ground in May Where it's britally cold and Conditions are the toughest to bat on.

All these NCL players no Disrespect to them, will get eaten Alive vs British University let Alone England.

If you want to Debut players you do it in Batting Friendly conditions.

You do it Slowly, Cap em Against Holland or Scotland at the Tail end of the England Tour, make em feel good bout themselves, than work em up.

In the Mean time you stick with the Status Quo
That's right. In England, you will need batsmen who play it with a dead straight bat and have compact defenses. Guys like Iqbal, Mushy and Nayeem might fare well. I have my doubts about Riyad in England and Shakib will probably struggle, but he always finds his way around it. Afta, Zunaed, Imrul will be toast and the NCL-ers will probably quit cricket and stay back as illegal immigrants.

AsifTheManRahman
March 14, 2010, 12:16 PM
Magic bhai, Shahriar Nafees could be an option in the very long run, but he needs a lot - and I mean a LOT - of FC cricket to sort his hagu out first.

AsifTheManRahman
March 14, 2010, 12:17 PM
to be honest I don't think its fair that Aftab is getting all these chances specially when SN only got one chance, even thought if SN was given more chances chances of him failing miserably are really high, nonetheless if Aftab can stick around even after poor shot selection, then why not SN. I'm not asking for SN return, i'm just pointing out that it was unfair on his side.
None of them should have been in the Test side in the first place. But you're right, it doesn't make sense how Aftab is getting a long run in the XI when they dropped Nafees after one game. It just doesn't make sense, that's all.

uss01
March 14, 2010, 12:29 PM
I would drop Aftab for a bowler, we need 5 bowlers to bowl out a side twice in a test.
I would replace Junaid with Rajin. He's proven his worth in domestic cricket over the last few years.
Imrul I'm not sure, but do we have other good openers in domestic cricket?

AsifTheManRahman
March 14, 2010, 12:31 PM
I would drop Aftab for a bowler, we need 5 bowlers to bowl out a side twice in a test.

If we stop picking non-batsmen in the top/middle order, then yes, we won't need a line-up that bats till #8 and can certainly afford an extra bowler.

bdtiger
March 14, 2010, 12:39 PM
someppl are demanding to include nafees/ kapali and some are demading to include some fresh bloods like zahur/faisal/farhad.

lets come up with more innovative selection. lets rest our entire national team and give chance to the new faces from ncl. we don't have much to loose. what worse can happen? Eng will make 1000 runs? we will be defeated by innings!! is it worse than what the national team is doing right now!!

Tiger444
March 14, 2010, 12:49 PM
I think Jahurul should get a chance since he got rewarded a spot on the team and has played well in the ncl..hes played so well and he has the credentials as well..in 54 matches and 99 innings he has 7 centuries, 22 half centuries with an average of about a 39..the guy jus knows how 2 bat unlike aftab..but we should see who to replace outta the 3 stooges, (imrul, zunaed, aftab). I think imrul lucks out so it comes down 2 zunaed and aftab and to me i would rather have zunaed because at least he has 5 half centuries whereas aftab has 1..so i would really like 2 see aftab gone and jahurul in..

magic boy
March 14, 2010, 12:56 PM
someppl are demanding to include nafees/ kapali and some are demading to include some fresh bloods like zahur/faisal/farhad.

lets come up with more innovative selection. lets rest our entire national team and give chance to the new faces from ncl. we don't have much to loose. what worse can happen? Eng will make 1000 runs? we will be defeated by innings!! is it worse than what the national team is doing right now!!

Bangladesh will be instantly banned from test cricket for 1-3 years or more !:timeout:

Tiger444
March 14, 2010, 01:10 PM
:p

"also Alok Kapali should get minimum testing chance!"

yes Alok Kapali got some points to be in the team while others are not performing well. I mean Alok is way better than Aftab Ahmed and Zunaed Siddique. As an all rounder of course. I dont understand why team management isn't thinking of him. They've said in public that they will work for Ashraful to help to be back into the team. but what's their view on guy's like Alok Kapali. Aftab is wasting the chances frequently. while Nafees,Kapali could use it and perform accordingly.
So lets try Kapali

alok kapali? magic boy i really do love 2 read your ports as you do have good insights usually but alok kapali? What has he done since he has come back? At least aftab has performed in the dpl but alok averaged a 28 in the dpl which is poor and then in the ncl he did poorly as well, agree that aftab/zunaed havent done anything but then you replace them with players who have proved themselves in domestics..would much rather try jahurul, fardhad, shuvogoto rather then alok..

magic boy
March 14, 2010, 01:23 PM
alok kapali? magic boy i really do love 2 read your ports as you do have good insights usually but alok kapali? What has he done since he has come back? At least aftab has performed in the dpl but alok averaged a 28 in the dpl which is poor and then in the ncl he did poorly as well, agree that aftab/zunaed havent done anything but then you replace them with players who have proved themselves in domestics..would much rather try jahurul, fardhad, shuvogoto rather then alok..

I'm not shouting to bring him back but a try at least as he played before for BD.
Those new faces have performed well and they can be included into national team too. I don't disagree with it. but DPL and international matches aren't same. that's why Aftab is struggling though doing better than Alok. so when he's getting too much opportunities selectors may consider Alok as well along with recruiting new comer. no problem-o
and don't forget Alok's spin bowling advantage !

AsifTheManRahman
March 14, 2010, 01:31 PM
I think we have enough firepower within the squad to be able to fix our middle order woes internally. MaRi's been promoted and has justified his promotion (although a hundred would be nice) and Shakib needs to avoid brain farts. If Nayeem batting at #8 now means that he will be batting in the middle order in six months if he succeeds, then all power to the management. Mushfiq should bat higher sooner or later. Since Jahurul is already in the setup, it wouldn't hurt to give him a game or two once in a while (but debut him in Dhaka, not England, and then let him play against Holland/Scotland during the Europe tour if we must take him with us).

I can't think of a viable option for the #2 spot - maybe Imrul gets lucky there.

alibangali
March 14, 2010, 01:42 PM
I think we have enough firepower within the squad to be able to fix our middle order woes internally. MaRi's been promoted and has justified his promotion (although a hundred would be nice) and Shakib needs to avoid brain farts. If Nayeem batting at #8 now means that he will be batting in the middle order in six months if he succeeds, then all power to the management. Mushfiq should bat higher sooner or later. Since Jahurul is already in the setup, it wouldn't hurt to give him a game or two once in a while (but debut him in Dhaka, not England, and then let him play against Holland/Scotland during the Europe tour if we must take him with us).

I can't think of a viable option for the #2 spot - maybe Imrul gets lucky there.
i agree with you espcially about not giving debut on english soil. The tough conditions will be detrimental to the player. I also think that a specialist wicket keeper can be tried in the dhaka test
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Miraz
March 14, 2010, 02:13 PM
Imrul is a hard working player and he will eventually overcome his technical shortcomings.

I will keep him in the squad.

I will pick Hannan Sirker (yes, you are reading it right, Hannan) and Jahurul Islam in place of Aftab and Zunaed. Faisal's technique is awful, I want to see him live in any match before commenting on him. May be he is a better player now with less technical flaws. In that case, he should get a chance to prove his worth.

Hannan, Jahurul and Faisal can't do any worse that what Aftab and Zunaed are doing. In fact any batsman who played in competitive cricket can't do worse than these two.

wiseshah
March 14, 2010, 02:23 PM
How is hannan doing recently. I am surprised Miraz bhai mentioned him. He must have done something amazing.
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wiseshah
March 14, 2010, 02:28 PM
I'm not shouting to bring him back but a try at least as he played before for BD.
Those new faces have performed well and they can be included into national team too. I don't disagree with it. but DPL and international matches aren't same. that's why Aftab is struggling though doing better than Alok. so when he's getting too much opportunities selectors may consider Alok as well along with recruiting new comer. no problem-o
and don't forget Alok's spin bowling advantage !

So if alok fails, bring aftab
if aftab fails, bring nafees
if nafees fails bring ash
if ash fails bring rajin
if rajin fails bring golla
looks like we can't go out of discarded circle

get into sense, if we bring another offform, why not to keep same players?

Aftab,imrul , zunaed together made run less than shahadat
together played less ball than shahadat
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Tiger444
March 14, 2010, 02:30 PM
Imrul is a hard working player and he will eventually overcome his technical shortcomings.

I will keep him in the squad.

I will pick Hannan Sirker (yes, you are reading it right, Hannan) and Jahurul Islam in place of Aftab and Zunaed. Faisal's technique is awful, I want to see him live in any match before commenting on him. May be he is a better player now with less technical flaws. In that case, he should get a chance to prove his worth.

Hannan, Jahurul and Faisal can't do any worse that what Aftab and Zunaed are doing. In fact any batsman who played in competitive cricket can't do worse than these two.

Agree on imrul being a hard worker..i like imrul a lot and he will become a good player eventually in test cricket but i feel it is a bit 2 early 4 him..an average of a 34 and only 2 FC centuries is not that good..he still has a long wayz 2 go in tests 2 be a decent player but with time he will be good..sarkar didnt play 2 many matches this year so he should get the call up yet..i actually think nazimuddin and jahurul should be given the spots..ya ya nazimuddin sucked in the ODIs but if aftab is getting constant chances then isnt nazimuddin? People call him aftab 2.0 but hes definitely a better player..8 FC centuries is very good and also a 40 avg..i believe he should get a chance over aftab and zunaed should be replaced by jahurul..

wiseshah
March 14, 2010, 02:30 PM
I think we have enough firepower within the squad to be able to fix our middle order woes internally. MaRi's been promoted and has justified his promotion (although a hundred would be nice) and Shakib needs to avoid brain farts. If Nayeem batting at #8 now means that he will be batting in the middle order in six months if he succeeds, then all power to the management. Mushfiq should bat higher sooner or later. Since Jahurul is already in the setup, it wouldn't hurt to give him a game or two once in a while (but debut him in Dhaka, not England, and then let him play against Holland/Scotland during the Europe tour if we must take him with us).

I can't think of a viable option for the #2 spot - maybe Imrul gets lucky there.

#2 spot that should be jahirul Islam omi
he is always opener
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bujhee kom
March 14, 2010, 04:10 PM
Ohh yeah, to say the least, I am really dissapointed at these 3. And I have very low hope on these. For Aftab Ahmed I have zero! Cricket is not the right game of sport for Aftab, he should at best try or stick to things like bowling, discus throw, Mugur throw, Bingo etc. simple sports...maybe junior level featherweight level wrestling, but that's about it.

Also I must add to that this about these 3 moran, Worhtless, wasting valuable team spot in an already weak team, that I really dislike them right now!!

Imtiazk
March 14, 2010, 04:22 PM
I really don't see any replacements. In course of time, Ashraful and Raqibul should come back. Aftab can still develop. He does not have obvious deficiencies like Imrul. Imrul would not be able to last any test match for more than half hour. In ODIs he is protected by the bouncer no-ball rule.

Let's face facts. Imrul has played 10 tests. 33 is his highest score. He is not a tail-ender. Even Shahadat has a higher score. Razzak has a better average.

The only player I can think of is someone who is not considered as a batsman at all. He has guts. That is Farhad Reza. But, of course, if he plays like the rest of the Bangladeshis.....

Talking about replacements, how can Shahadat's place be justified ? I have never seen someone whose pace has suddenly disappeared. I remember many here tut-tuted Rasel's pace. Is Shahadat now any faster than Rasel ? Rasel , in my opinion, is one of our best bowlers. With the exception of possibly Mashrafe, he is the best.

kaisermatin
March 14, 2010, 04:31 PM
Tormuz, Mahmudullah not in u'r list?

Yes i agree with the title. We must replace them in the next match. If they can't score in this flat batting friendly wicket then i wonder what will they do when they will go in England?

Also need to get rid of Shahadat. Her is the worst pacer in Bangladesh atm. He makes Taposh/Kabir/Anwar better than him.:sick:

Anyway, this should be the playing XI for next test.
1)Tamim
2)Kayes/Zunaid
3)Zahirul Islam
4)Musfiq
5)Riyad
6)Shakib
7)Faisal
8)Nayeem
9)Shuvo
10)Shafiul
11)Rubel

zainab
March 14, 2010, 05:12 PM
No Zunaid and Aftab for Tests. Aftab is good at 20/20, now Zunaid is a dilemma, dont know what he is good at, he cannot move his feet, and please no Nafees. I feel Rock should be given a chance in England. Imrul, IMO tries very hard indeed, also we have Tamim, Mushy, Riyad, Nayeem and once in a while Sabib and Ash.

Imtiazk
March 14, 2010, 05:35 PM
Imrul is a hard working player and he will eventually overcome his technical shortcomings.

I will keep him in the squad.

I will pick Hannan Sirker (yes, you are reading it right, Hannan) and Jahurul Islam in place of Aftab and Zunaed. Faisal's technique is awful, I want to see him live in any match before commenting on him. May be he is a better player now with less technical flaws. In that case, he should get a chance to prove his worth.

Hannan, Jahurul and Faisal can't do any worse that what Aftab and Zunaed are doing. In fact any batsman who played in competitive cricket can't do worse than these two.

I met someone who knows Ian Chappell. Apparently, they were talking about Bangladesh cricket and Chappell mentioned only two names from the 2003 tour. Murtaza and Sarkar !!!

I think he scored two 50s out of 4 innings in Australia ! Only that Pedro Collins [ Fidel's brother ] destroyed him in the West Indies.

Dhruvo
March 14, 2010, 05:42 PM
Tormuz, Mahmudullah not in u'r list?
Riyad is Mahmudullah...

bdtiger
March 14, 2010, 05:54 PM
Aftab can still develop. He does not have obvious deficiencies like Imrul. Imrul would not be able to last any test match for more than half hour. In ODIs he is protected by the bouncer no-ball rule.

Let's face facts. Imrul has played 10 tests. 33 is his highest score. He is not a tail-ender. Even Shahadat has a higher score. Razzak has a better average.



Agree with you. Imrul is not a tst batman. But we need an opener. Imrul is better than Zahurul wrt current form. So lets keep him. I am sure Aftab still can be a valuable player. Lets see how they do in 2nd innings. Zahurul should be given a chance in place of Zunaid/ Aftab. And Lets try new pacers for 2nd test. Both the pacers llok tired and hopeless. I will go with Shafiul and Rasel.

wiseshah
March 14, 2010, 08:03 PM
i know we need three change right a way. it will be risky to play with 8 players. but i am afraid we will have 3 changes at a time, maximum 2 might happen. in that case, i will go for

junaed and aftab------ change with jahirul and some one else

junaed failed last couple of series, NCL, DPL--everything and even in warm up match against england, still how come he is in the squad? big question.

Fazal
March 14, 2010, 08:35 PM
I am not ready yet to get rid of Imrul.

However I see no reason to keep Junaid and Aftab in slot #3 and #4. Unless either of them score a 70+ innings, they should not be included in the TEST.

Its time to try the alternative from local performers, enough is enough, this retry of proven failures of recent time is handicapping us big time....enough wishing for miracle and and panning based on winning lottery ticket, it's time to plan and build team beased to reality and based on players with current form.

Gowza
March 15, 2010, 12:55 AM
i'd probably try jahurul instead of imrul in the next test, groom mushy or riyad or naeem for #3 as well as guys like shamsur, marshall ayub and shuvagoto. middle order has shakib/riyad/mushy/naeem and with #3 grooming the ones above should be able to bat anywhere in the middle order as well. dhiman in as keeper, shuvo as the 2nd spinner with guys like shabbir, mahmudul, nasir, nur being groomed as the 2nd spinner. as far as pacers go it really doesn't matter who we pick because none of them are performing that consistently, but shafiul probably looks the most promising at the international elvel at this stage. ones to nuture are sajidul, subashis, emon, alauddin, rubel obviously.

but as far as short term is concerned, give jahurul a try at #2, might have to keep junaid at the #3 spot though.....unless they try farhad or faisal, shuvagoto should get more time, though wouldn't surprise me if he did get a call soon.

wiseshah
March 15, 2010, 01:26 AM
I really don't see any replacements. In course of time, Ashraful and Raqibul should come back. Aftab can still develop. He does not have obvious deficiencies like Imrul. Imrul would not be able to last any test match for more than half hour. In ODIs he is protected by the bouncer no-ball rule.

Let's face facts. Imrul has played 10 tests. 33 is his highest score. He is not a tail-ender. Even Shahadat has a higher score. Razzak has a better average.

The only player I can think of is someone who is not considered as a batsman at all. He has guts. That is Farhad Reza. But, of course, if he plays like the rest of the Bangladeshis.....

Talking about replacements, how can Shahadat's place be justified ? I have never seen someone whose pace has suddenly disappeared. I remember many here tut-tuted Rasel's pace. Is Shahadat now any faster than Rasel ? Rasel , in my opinion, is one of our best bowlers. With the exception of possibly Mashrafe, he is the best.



jamie siddons also dont see any replacement because our board dont introduce him any new players. but when it comes club games or NCL or DPL--- team management find lots of replacement and they replace them successfully and get result.

few years back also-- our team management didnt find replacement for SN, Javed omar, alok,farhad reza. but riad, naeem, shakib, tamim came and replaced some people and replaced finely.

replacements are always there but u have to look for them, u have to search for them and give them opportunity.

for the replacement--- first look for academy team performances. if there is no academy match, look for A team, then look at performances like DPL, NCL--find top ten players, find consistent performer.
if some one can score 965 run in 7 matches--- he can't be replacement? u want me to believe it? atleast he can score more runs than this fools.

even shahadat scored more runs than them (combinedly)and played more balls than them combinedly

wiseshah
March 15, 2010, 01:29 AM
imrul played 10 match

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there is no player in the team who can replace this 13 average opener? hard to believe.

al-Sagar
March 15, 2010, 01:31 AM
I am not ready yet to get rid of Imrul.

However I see no reason to keep Junaid and Aftab in slot #3 and #4. Unless either of them score a 70+ innings, they should not be included in the TEST.

Its time to try the alternative from local performers, enough is enough, this retry of proven failures of recent time is handicapping us big time....enough wishing for miracle and and panning based on winning lottery ticket, it's time to plan and build team beased to reality and based on players with current form.

not 70+ , i want 100+

anway both ZA and AAC in double figures

wiseshah
March 15, 2010, 01:57 AM
not 70+ , i want 100+

anway both ZA and AAC in double figures


i want 170+

Tormuz
March 15, 2010, 02:22 AM
Well, we have plenty of replacement for Aftab and zunaid(see below for the list of player) but it seems selectors and Jamie siddons are against it. But why? Why do they continue to play the failure in every match...and at a times the failure comes back and score a 50+ innings which could have been the last match for the failure but becasue he score 50+ he book another test match at least or even a series.(just like Aftab & Zunaid).

Possible replacement for Aftab: Marshall Ayub, Fardhad Hossain, Faisal Hossain, Shuvogoto Hom,Rajin Saleh

Possible replacement for Zunaid & Kayes: Rajin Saleh, shamsur Rahman shuvo, Jahirul Islam

Tormuz
March 15, 2010, 02:25 AM
Hopefully Aftab will be drop for the next Test. He doesn't deserve to be in the Test and ODI team atm but may be in T20.

Rabz
March 15, 2010, 04:51 AM
No need to find replacement for Zunaed.
The cheeky bugger got himself a ticket, atleast for the Dhaka test.

Sohel
March 15, 2010, 05:00 AM
Imrul was a top domestic performer with plenty of class and goaded into the the highest level without adequate preparation. He hasn't succeeded in tests at all. What makes us think another top domestic performer, also without adequate A Team experience to bridge some of the existing qualitative gap, will do better and for how long?

NCL heroes like "Decans", "Sejan" and Nazim:Dddin? They're still shite and always will be.

Shehwar
March 15, 2010, 05:33 AM
Aftab looks so comfortable every single time he goes out to bat. He has so much time for the ball. He has a gift and must realise it. We should stick with Aftab because thik bloke is capable of doing things very few Bangladeshi batsmen can ...
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WarWolf
March 15, 2010, 05:43 AM
Aftab looks so comfortable every single time he goes out to bat. He has so much time for the ball. He has a gift and must realise it. We should stick with Aftab because thik bloke is capable of doing things very few Bangladeshi batsmen can ...
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He averages only 26 in first class and 25.22 in List A. No justification of playing him is visible to me. Let him show some wonders at first in the domestic and A team level first.

alibangali
March 15, 2010, 05:46 AM
imrul played 10 match

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there is no player in the team who can replace this 13 average opener? hard to believe.

He needs to go from the test team he has had enough chances and failed misserably. The thing is he never looks comfortable no matter how many balls he faces. He needs to work on his technique and concentration.

Aftab also has to go and work on his technique against spin. He also needs to go and get some form in domestic cricket.

In the past we have discarded players after 1 or 2 matches but these two have had many now and who ever is brought in should be trialed for atleast 4 matches(unless he is so crap that its not worth it).

alibangali
March 15, 2010, 05:48 AM
Imrul was a top domestic performer with plenty of class and goaded into the the highest level without adequate preparation. He hasn't succeeded in test at all. What makes us think another top domestic performer, also without adequate A Team experience to bridge some of the existing qualitative gap will do better, and for how long?

NCL heroes like "Decans", "Sejan" and Nazim:Dddin? They're still shite and always will be.

I agree that players should be picked from performances playing in the A team. Our domestic league is not good enough to prepare them for international cricket on its own. The players also need to be groomed by playing in different conditions and against international bowlers who will bowl differently.

al-Sagar
March 15, 2010, 05:49 AM
looks like aftab has passed his test and will play in dhaka.

junaed got pass mark and is still playing for higher grade/letter mark.

imrul is the vulnerable one. looks like zahurul may open in the 2nd innings.

also zs back in opening and zahurul in one down is possible. the 3 virtual opener theory continues

WarWolf
March 15, 2010, 05:51 AM
looks like aftab has passed his test and will play in dhaka.

junaed got pass mark and is still playing for higher grade/letter mark.

imrul is the vulnerable one. looks like zahurul may open in the 2nd innings.

also zs back in opening and zahurul in one down is possible. the 3 virtual opener theory continues

Aftab didn't do anything significant to earn another test match.

BangladeshFan
March 15, 2010, 05:51 AM
Well Junaed played the longest innings of the test from the bangladesh side, a massive 200 balls and not out. We should really look for players who can stay in the crease for long period of time and put a price on their wickets. Ideally Raqibul should have played at number 4 in tests, but since he isnt there I hope Bd debuts Zahirul in the 2nd test.

Imtiazk
March 15, 2010, 06:01 AM
If Raqibul was available , I would have dropped Imrul and asked Junaid to open. Imrul is just not test material. With an average of 13 after 10 tests and a highest score of 33 says it all.

No Zahirul experiments please.

Aftab , at least, does not look uncomfortable. I will leave him alone. He looked reasonable in the second innings.In the first, he was not even out.

Shehwar
March 15, 2010, 06:46 AM
Aftab has all the ability in the world. He just needs to sort his head out where as Imrul just doesn't have the technical ability to play at this level.
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AsifTheManRahman
March 15, 2010, 08:39 AM
Kisher ability? 5 bochor dhore khali ability'r kothai shune ashtesi, kono application nai. Eishob faltu kotha.

Zunaed has sealed his place for the next couple of Tests and if he can show some consistency, all power to him. He has a lot to prove and improve upon and will have a difficult time against the moving ball in England.

WarWolf
March 15, 2010, 08:47 AM
Kisher ability? 5 bochor dhore khali ability'r kothai shune ashtesi, kono application nai. Eishob faltu kotha.

Zunaed has sealed his place for the next couple of Tests and if he can show some consistency, all power to him. He has a lot to prove and improve upon and will have a difficult time against the moving ball in England.

Top post.

AsifTheManRahman
March 15, 2010, 09:42 AM
Aftab looks so comfortable every single time he goes out to bat. He has so much time for the ball. He has a gift and must realise it. We should stick with Aftab because thik bloke is capable of doing things very few Bangladeshi batsmen can ...

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Are you kidding me?

AsifTheManRahman
March 15, 2010, 09:44 AM
We should really look for players who can stay in the crease for long period of time and put a price on their wickets.
We don't need to look too far. Mushfiq, Nayeem and Mahmudullah are all capable of doing that. So are Tamim and Shakib, but I get the feeling they are the kind of batsmen who will score at a healthy strike rate most of the time. Not a bad thing as long as they are consistent.

al-Sagar
March 15, 2010, 09:51 AM
Aftab has all the ability in the world. He just needs to sort his head out where as Imrul just doesn't have the technical ability to play at this level.
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drop them both. let one sort his head and the other increase his abilty

simon
March 15, 2010, 10:37 AM
Junaed for Test is far better than Aftb or Imrul.
Not becse he scored well today but it's his 6th 50 aginst good 5 dffrnt teams,2 vs SA,1 vs NZ,1 vs Ind,1 vs Eng,1 vs WI.

alibangali
March 15, 2010, 10:54 AM
Zunaed needs to convert hid 50s to 100s to really be a solid player. He needs to improve hos technique against short pace bowling. He should open with tamim instead of imrul. Tamim has also said he likes to open with zunaed.
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shuziburo
March 15, 2010, 11:07 AM
One of the replacements must be a wicketkeeper.

Mushfiq should be a specialist batsman in the team. I am not sure whether he can navigate new ball, but he certainly can be a very good #5. His wicketkeeping, in contrast to his batting, really sucks.

shuziburo
March 15, 2010, 11:12 AM
Need a repalcement for Aftab
Need a repalcement for Zunaid
Need a repalcement for Imrul
Need a replacement for Razzak
Pace department suck, but I suppse we have no choice...
We didnt have to take these 4 players in the first test. The team management showed nothing but arrogance and ego to take them. At least 2 batsmen and Razzak must to be repalced.

Junaid might have cemented a place in the test team. I hope his patient approach is here to stay. If he is in the team, he should open with Tamim and Imrul has to go.

Razzak is a good ODI option. At least used to be. We desperately need another spinner who attacks the stamps. Right now, only Shakib can do this.

I think a duo or Rubel (pace) and Shafiul (guile) would be better than the current pace attack. I don't think Shahadat (neither) is a long-term solution for our test team.

shuziburo
March 15, 2010, 11:16 AM
I think Jahurul should get a chance since he got rewarded a spot on the team and has played well in the ncl..hes played so well and he has the credentials as well..in 54 matches and 99 innings he has 7 centuries, 22 half centuries with an average of about a 39..the guy jus knows how 2 bat unlike aftab..but we should see who to replace outta the 3 stooges, (imrul, zunaed, aftab). I think imrul lucks out so it comes down 2 zunaed and aftab and to me i would rather have zunaed because at least he has 5 half centuries whereas aftab has 1..so i would really like 2 see aftab gone and jahurul in..

Me too. But, I wouldn't be unhappy if they try Jahurul in place of Imrul. (One 'rul' in place of another...)

shuziburo
March 15, 2010, 11:56 AM
I think we have enough firepower within the squad to be able to fix our middle order woes internally. MaRi's been promoted and has justified his promotion (although a hundred would be nice) and Shakib needs to avoid brain farts. If Nayeem batting at #8 now means that he will be batting in the middle order in six months if he succeeds, then all power to the management. Mushfiq should bat higher sooner or later. Since Jahurul is already in the setup, it wouldn't hurt to give him a game or two once in a while (but debut him in Dhaka, not England, and then let him play against Holland/Scotland during the Europe tour if we must take him with us).

I can't think of a viable option for the #2 spot - maybe Imrul gets lucky there.

Many a player have been destroyed by debuting in England's cold and wet conditions. Baptizement by fire should be avoided.

shuziburo
March 15, 2010, 11:58 AM
Imrul is a hard working player and he will eventually overcome his technical shortcomings.

I will keep him in the squad.

I will pick Hannan Sirker (yes, you are reading it right, Hannan) and Jahurul Islam in place of Aftab and Zunaed. Faisal's technique is awful, I want to see him live in any match before commenting on him. May be he is a better player now with less technical flaws. In that case, he should get a chance to prove his worth.

Hannan, Jahurul and Faisal can't do any worse that what Aftab and Zunaed are doing. In fact any batsman who played in competitive cricket can't do worse than these two.

I feel he should be brought to the team after he corrects his flaws, if ever. It is painful to watch him bat. With Bradman, the ball went where he wanted. With Imrul, it goes everywhere else!

auntu
March 15, 2010, 11:59 AM
Looks like Big Z has sealed his fate for not only the 2nd Test but also for the next tour. :)

shuziburo
March 15, 2010, 12:05 PM
Zunaed needs to convert hid 50s to 100s to really be a solid player. He needs to improve hos technique against short pace bowling. He should open with tamim instead of imrul. Tamim has also said he likes to open with zunaed.
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Z is still uncomfortable against bouncers, but he has done a very good job of avoiding them in this inning. I hope he can build on this. He seems capable of offering dead bat to the ball, a trait essential in test cricket...

BangladeshFan
March 15, 2010, 12:39 PM
Steve waugh was also uncomfortable against short pitch, but he scored heavily in tests. One just have to play according to the bowling and according to his ability to do well in tests. There is no shortage of time, one can settle himself. Zunaed put his mind to it and he did it as is Mushfiq. Mushfiq is nothing exceptional, he just plays according to his ability.

BD Tigers
March 16, 2010, 12:10 AM
what a slap from Zunaid to the nay sayers...:D Hope Imrul/Aftab follow suit.

Ashfaq
March 16, 2010, 01:03 AM
Moments of grief and ecstasy aside, Junaid is on his way to prove he's in another class entirely. I hope he learns something from this marathon innings and play the next match accordingly.

wiseshah
March 16, 2010, 01:06 AM
Aftab, razzaq, imrul. Still in danger zone

to win we need 11 player
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auntu
March 16, 2010, 08:00 AM
what a slap from Zunaid to the nay sayers...:D Hope Imrul/Aftab follow suit.
Insha'Allah.

shuziburo
March 16, 2010, 11:45 AM
what a slap from Zunaid to the nay sayers...:D Hope Imrul/Aftab follow suit.

Lightening may not strike twice! I don't have a lot of hope for either Imrul or Aftab. Junaid has shown a few patient innings (nothing like this one), but these two have not. If one of them ever flourishes, Aftab is more likely. Imrul has always appeared over-matched against international bowling.

alibangali
March 16, 2010, 12:06 PM
Lightening may not strike twice! I don't have a lot of hope for either Imrul or Aftab. Junaid has shown a few patient innings (nothing like this one), but these two have not. If one of them ever flourishes, Aftab is more likely. Imrul has always appeared over-matched against international bowling.

Agree about imrul he lacks too many things to play test cricket against the top teams. Keep him in the odi arena only for the moment.
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Gowza
March 16, 2010, 03:30 PM
i didn't get to see junaid's innings so can't really say much, but i can say he played a patient innings against india which showed good temperament but he also looked horrible the whole innings. junaid might be scoring runs now but unless he fixes alot of things he's going to struggle to do it consistently so i think we still need to look out for a good #3 but in the meantime junaid is possibly the best option. imrul and aftab should be tagged out for the next match though.

AsifTheManRahman
March 16, 2010, 03:34 PM
Gowza, those are my observations too.

I would like to see Jahurul get a game. There's no point carrying him around if you're not going to play him, especially when some of your top/middle order batsmen aren't doing well. Besides, I wouldn't like for him to debut in, say, England. Is Jahurul an opener in the NCL or a middle order batsman?

WarWolf
March 16, 2010, 03:37 PM
Gowza, those are my observations too.

I would like to see Jahurul get a game. There's no point carrying him around if you're not going to play him, especially when some of your top/middle order batsmen aren't doing well. Besides, I wouldn't like for him to debut in, say, England. Is Jahurul an opener in the NCL or a middle order batsman?

Opener.

Ajfar
March 16, 2010, 03:43 PM
what a slap from Zunaid to the nay sayers...:D Hope Imrul/Aftab follow suit.

one innings doesn't say much, he did good and i'm proud of him. but still a lot of works needs to be done before he can prove the naysayers wrong.

zainab
March 16, 2010, 03:45 PM
I guess Siddons will keep all three. Dont criticize Imrul so much, he is a hardworking cricketer, and should be given a chance and not cast aside.

cricman
March 16, 2010, 03:45 PM
If Z had a decent Conversion rate, He'd be rated much higher by us ... He missed out on 3 figures before

I just dont get how such a tall batsmen, plays small most of the time vs the Short stuff

Fazal
March 16, 2010, 04:47 PM
Sometimes even tall person have small thingy you know....

makorsha
March 16, 2010, 05:40 PM
Sometimes even tall person have small thingy you know....

size matters

Wakidul
March 16, 2010, 05:52 PM
Wat im reading on this thread is not right! Simply because Junaid played awesome in the second innings we hav fallen into the trap of immediatly loving him. No heroes instantly become born heroes, they have to work for it. Tendulkar wasnt made hero for scoring jus a single century in test cricket. Its cause he consistently scored centurys.

Dont think im against junaid cause from square one ive always said junaid is better than aftab since he can build good partnerships like he did with tamim a few times and in todays case mushy. I jus feel as though we get mightly carried away like our players after scoring a century. Lets jus be quite for a moment and hope for the best in the second test.

May allah prevail a succesful ending to the tour. Inshallah.

Wakidul
March 16, 2010, 06:02 PM
I guess Siddons will keep all three. Dont criticize Imrul so much, he is a hardworking cricketer, and should be given a chance and not cast aside.

Thats correct sis. I would keep our top three the same, because they are beginning to work more as a team. The only problem is they are scoring biggies in different innings or different versions in teh game for imrul's sake. Inshallah they will one day, perhaps saturday click together. Who i would remove from the team is Aftab and replace him with rokibul if he comes back, since ive always been a fan of him and the way he applies himself or Jahurul. As for bowling there really isnt any options for bdesh and is any area which needs to be worked upon especially the pace department. I just hope the best and dua to allah that Mash picks up form and looses his weight as quick as possible. This really strengths our bolwing attack.

For next test i would go for the following;

1.Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Junaid Siddique
4. Roqibul/Jaherul
5. Mushy (Keeper, i believe this guy has the determination to prove himself and improvie this element of the game b4 t20 world cup)
6. Mahmudullah
7. Shakib
8. Naeem
9. Shaiful
10. Rubel
11. Razzaq

I really want a pacer hunt in bdesh, and also a specilist bowling coach replacing that lankan chap. Sum1 in the likes of Wasim, etc would be a dream.

Tiger444
March 16, 2010, 06:16 PM
I like imrul a lot but I believe he is just not ready 4 test cricket..nothing wrong with that though..he is still very young and he is bound 2 improve since hes a hard working cricketer..aftab on the other hand i dont have much hope 4..in the 2nd innings he played some goos strokes but he just doesnt have the temperament in tests..i would like 2 see jahurul in the place of aftab next test..

fais
March 16, 2010, 07:07 PM
wats all this BS about Aftab - who cares if he looks comfortable; it's how some parents say "my child is so smart but he doesn't work hard" - who gives a damn
i am up for jahurul coming in - he can't do worse than 30 odd runs that aftab achieved

wiseshah
March 16, 2010, 07:45 PM
If razzaq, aftab and imrul plays. We will be ruined. Anyone but this three

also shafiul need to replace shahadat/ rubel
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Gowza
March 16, 2010, 07:59 PM
wats all this BS about Aftab - who cares if he looks comfortable; it's how some parents say "my child is so smart but he doesn't work hard" - who gives a damn
i am up for jahurul coming in - he can't do worse than 30 odd runs that aftab achieved

only valid when the player is a newbie, aftab has too much international experience to say he looks comfortable so let's keep giving him chances and see if he comes good you just can't give those allowances to experienced players, inexperienced ones get a bit more leeway.

bura
March 16, 2010, 09:06 PM
i didn't get to see junaid's innings so can't really say much, but i can say he played a patient innings against india which showed good temperament but he also looked horrible the whole innings. junaid might be scoring runs now but unless he fixes alot of things he's going to struggle to do it consistently so i think we still need to look out for a good #3 but in the meantime junaid is possibly the best option. imrul and aftab should be tagged out for the next match though.

yes I agree about your observation on Zunaid.

Imrul can be given one or two more chances considering the lack of suitable replacements but I don't see why Aftab should be given more chances. (man this guy throws bat at balls without any clue and the annoying uncomfortable smile afterward is even worse - gives the bowler the confidence that he has won the battle.) Even if he gets selected for the 2nd test that should be his last chance(unless he scores a century which is never gonna happen...even with Haba's and Zunaid's lucks combined).

Catskills
March 16, 2010, 10:55 PM
wats all this BS about Aftab - who cares if he looks comfortable; it's how some parents say "my child is so smart but he doesn't work hard" - who gives a damn i am up for jahurul coming in - he can't do worse than 30 odd runs that aftab achieved

Very true. True that most of the parents do that and true that I am up for Jahurul as well. Jahurul has super form now, let him prove it in the 2nd test.