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FagunerAgun
March 18, 2010, 08:24 AM
Kevin Pietersen believes he is back to his best form after battling to overcome his technical deficiencies against left-arm spin, but he has nevertheless voiced his criticism of the Chittagong wicket that aided his recovery in the first Test against Bangladesh. Pietersen made 99 in England's first innings of the series and followed that up with a hard-hitting 32 from 24 balls, but feels that the surface on which the match was played was bad for spectators, and by extension, the five-day game as a whole.

The Bangladesh series clashes with the glitz and glamour of the Indian Premier League, to which Pietersen will flying as soon as the second Test is over to link up with the Bangalore Royal Challengers, and while he was full of praise for the spirit that Junaid Siddique and Mushfiqur Rahim showed in extending the Chittagong Test into the final afternoon, he questioned the entertainment value on offer in a match that England, to all intents and purposes, dominated from ball one.

"I don't think the conditions are good for Test match cricket," said Pietersen. "Everyone is talking about where Test cricket will be in five years' time, and I don't think wickets like that are conducive to people watching. On day five of a Test match, you expect some spin and something in the wicket, because you need wickets that will produce victories or results. I don't think the wicket was great in terms of entertainment, but in terms of English toughness it was good for our young bowling attack."

"Bangladesh were good," he said. "They fought hard in patches, especially on the last day, but with the way Test match cricket is going and the way people are talking negatively about it now, as a Test match cricket lover [I am concerned]. If we had played India on that pitch, it would have been 700 plays 700 plays 100 for 1. It's not good for Test match cricket, because I want Test match cricket to survive for as long as possible. It tests every individual and toughens you up."

Pietersen's criticisms were echoed by one of his chief tormentors of the tour, the left-arm spinner Abdur Razzak, who felt that his team had been let down by the Chittagong wicket after packing their side with four spinners in a bid to exploit the turn that they had anticipated from the surface. "The Chittagong wicket was not very spin-friendly," said Razzak. "Nothing happened for the first two days. The ball just went straight when we bowled in the first innings, and though there was some bounce, it's useless without turn."

The net result, however, was a timely return to form for Pietersen, who has had to drag his game out of the doldrums after a desperate run of form which, he claimed, was triggered by a technical fault that crept into his game during the tour of South Africa in December and January. Following scores of 40 and 81 at Centurion - his first Test since undergoing Achilles surgery in the summer - Pietersen managed 56 runs in his next five innings of the series, and said that by the end of the tour "I didn't know where I was and what I was doing".

"It was strange," said Pietersen. "I felt in good nick after the Twenty20 in Centurion [his comeback match], but then something went wrong in the third and fourth Test matches. I looked at a lot of footage, and compared it to some footage from before, and I realised I had made some technical errors, and I wasn't playing the way I used to. But I've sorted that out now, and I feel a different player."

The root of Pietersen's problem had been in his trigger movement at the crease, which involves an exaggerated knee-bend at the point of delivery. "If you lose your technique, the more your head goes," he said. "I don't want to jinx [my recovery], but I honestly do feel really, really good about my game at the moment. It's a nice place to be compared to ten days ago when I needed something to click, and something to work on, which I love doing. Yeah, I feel good now."

"There was a little thing I needed to work on, technique-wise, against the left-arm spinners, but then spending two or three hours at the crease [at Chittagong] was important as well, because when you're going through a tough time you often think: 'wow, how do I get to 20, 30, 50 ...' So to get to 99 and 30-odd off 20, by when I was hitting a lot of my areas I used to hit - midwicket off the spinner, and hitting over the top - I'm pretty happy."

As a by-product of all the thought that Pietersen has had to put into his technique against spin, he has rediscovered an urge to work on his own offspin - the facet of his game that first earned him the chance to play first-class cricket for Natal. "I think I can get a lot more wickets bowling to left-handers," he said, "with some that turn, and some that don't turn.

"A lot of the decisions I have got in my career have been down to my bounce and pace, and the uncertainty of where it is going, so I think I can get quite a few wickets. I'm looking to bowl more, and I've actually spoken to Cookie about it and I keep saying to him: 'get me on here.'"

He might well be called upon to perform with the ball in Dhaka if the wicket is anything like as slow and low as the Chittagong surface, but whatever happens, Pietersen is adamant that England must finish the series with focus and determination - two traits that have often deserted them towards the back-end of lengthy tours.

"The key to this week is finishing the tour well and concentrating on the Test match," he said. "What matters is winning the series, because we often don't finish tours the way that we would like, we sort of veer off at the end of a series because we want to get home, because we travel so much. The key to the team this week is to really make sure we grind it out here and get a good victory for Cooky [Alastair Cook], because he's done a great job on the field and off the field. We want to serve up a good victory for the chef."


Courtesy: Cricinfo.

Baundule
March 18, 2010, 08:46 AM
If they bat well, the pitch is fine. If we bat well, the pitch is flat and not test-stadard.

al-Sagar
March 18, 2010, 09:43 AM
1 more run in the first innings, then he would have said "the best pitch in da galaxy"

AK420
March 18, 2010, 10:10 AM
KP is a real wanna be. He comented this because his team scored just 200 for 7 in second innings:lol:

Rabz
March 18, 2010, 10:11 AM
Well, the pitch was a dead beat.
I think KP was right in his stance.
Had it been India, SL, the match would have been a boring slow draw.
It was a case of 600 followed by another 600, followed by 100-1, draw.

A sporting wicket doesnt hurt anyone.

AsifTheManRahman
March 18, 2010, 10:14 AM
Pitches around the world have gone flat over the years, which isn't necessarily a good thing. So KP has a point.

Tiger444
March 18, 2010, 10:46 AM
Why are you guys so defensive? Its a very good point..the pitch should not be so flat..but then again we are BD and we cant really score on any other wicket..and someone said we batted well? Really? Not even putting 350 in both innings and we batted well? On such a flat pitch we should really put up scores 350-400 in each innings..test match cricket in general should have sporting wickets in order to get results but KP had 2 realize we are not on their level yet and so a result will come out no matter what pitch we play on..so i think kp makes a good point that these of picthes are bad 4 test cricket..

Eshen
March 18, 2010, 12:32 PM
Well, the pitch was a dead beat.
I think KP was right in his stance.
Had it been India, SL, the match would have been a boring slow draw.
It was a case of 600 followed by another 600, followed by 100-1, draw.

Yep. Unfortunately, our team management (and the majority of fans here) think it was a great achievement to drag the match to the fifth day for another honorable defeat.

alibangali
March 18, 2010, 12:40 PM
The english would have complained if the pitch had turn since then they would have lost the match. The only time they would have been happy is if it favoured them. I am happy that atleast the pitches are prepared to help develop some confidence to our brittle batting. I just hope the pitch in dhaka is turning so that we can make the english cry more.
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Eshen
March 18, 2010, 12:52 PM
^^ The Chittagong pitch actually had turns, as much it should have for finger spinners. Problem was that batsmen (ie batsmen with decent footwork) had plenty of time to negotiate the spin because of the slowness of the pitch. Spinners (at least our spinners) need both turn and bounce to be effective. We failed to play to our strength (which is our spin department) and handed the match over to England even before it started.

Don't see why batting side should feel confident about themselves after making scores around 300 in each innings on such a dull pitch.

auntu
March 18, 2010, 01:33 PM
If we can't extract anything better as a result why don't we go for a sporty one?
Even if the pitch is not fast and bouncy (against ENG, NZ, AUS no need actually) why not a turning track?

Slow turning wicket doesn't help us anyway. We need pitches where there are sharp turn.

BD-Shardul
March 18, 2010, 01:57 PM
A bad worker quarrels with his tools.

Eshen
March 18, 2010, 02:06 PM
A bad worker quarrels with his tools.
But he scored 99 in the first innings! He was not doing bad either in the second innings till he became victim of one of the numerous umpiring mistakes in the match.

Zunaid
March 18, 2010, 02:10 PM
The Uthan was byaka in this case.

BD-Shardul
March 18, 2010, 02:43 PM
But he scored 99 in the first innings! He was not doing bad either in the second innings till he became victim of one of the numerous umpiring mistakes in the match.

Then why he is making unnecessary noise? Because Bangladesh batsmen batted more number of overs than English batsmen? Would he complain if he played in a similar pitch in India? [বাংলা]যারা দুর্বল, তাদেরকে পিটাতে এই পৃথিবীর সবাই খুব মজা পায়। মরা হাতীকে কাকও লাথি মারে। [/বাংলা]

And in second innings, KP was plumb straight. I do not know how you have found a howler there.

Fazal
March 18, 2010, 02:54 PM
Pietersen who?

ialbd
March 18, 2010, 02:59 PM
The Uthan was byaka in this case.

agey jantam nachte na janle uthan byaka ekhon dekhi nachte janleo eki case.... :)

Eshen
March 18, 2010, 03:04 PM
Well, in this case the Uthan was so flat that your dancing skill was not really tested.

As I said in another thread, Gillespie prolly would have scored another century here if given a chance.

Bancan
March 18, 2010, 03:04 PM
Then why he is making unnecessary noise? Because Bangladesh batsmen batted more number of overs than English batsmen? Would he complain if he played in a similar pitch in India? [বাংলা]যারা দুর্বল, তাদেরকে পিটাতে এই পৃথিবীর সবাই খুব মজা পায়। মরা হাতীকে কাকও লাথি মারে। [/বাংলা]

And in second innings, KP was plumb straight. I do not know how you have found a howler there.

umm he already mentioned why hes making noise. Read the article. instead of attacking him why dont you write why you disagree.

Tiger444
March 18, 2010, 03:14 PM
pieterson has every right 2 say what he is saying..he is a world class batsman and understands the game very well..he also said good things about us as well..what he said was very true about the pitch..he obviously wants sporting wickets because there are better chances that there will be a result..i dont know why people are so defensive..hes talking the truth..

Eshen
March 18, 2010, 03:21 PM
And in second innings, KP was plumb straight. I do not know how you have found a howler there.
You need to watch the reply. Shakib's armer was going down the leg side.

Yeah, I know, it's hard to believe umps give bad decisions against other teams too.

al Furqaan
March 18, 2010, 03:25 PM
Don't see why batting side should feel confident about themselves after making scores around 300 in each innings on such a dull pitch.

thats under the assumption that we have a whole batting side. we've got half a batting side or slightly more than that.

imrul, aftab, and to certain extent junaid can't be considered par batsmen. on the other hand, tamim, mushy, riyad, shakib, and riyad have over the past 12 months done a respectable job. nothing great (i.e no double tons or 300 run partnerships) but nothing shabby either.

junaid is a tweener, btw. he's taken part in 3 150+ run parthernships, indicating some test readiness. but at other times looks totally outclassed.

M.H.Rubel
March 18, 2010, 04:09 PM
Our batsman are not high quality so definately we will make a wicket of 700 in one innings.We will try to cover our batting weakness by making batting wicket its very simple.We are host its our right to make such a pitch.I noticied the english people talk too much if anything goes against them.
Wait Mr Kevin Piterson wait for just 5 years we will make a pitch where England will be all out by 121 runs those days are not too far away.
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RazabQ
March 18, 2010, 04:41 PM
Wanting and getting are too different thing. With the soil we have in Chittagong, empirical evidence suggests you are either going to get a very pacy pitch, like the ones Nurl Abedin Nobel used to prepare in the old stadium or these flat ones in the new one.

And Kevin is right, that was a pitch even the IPL wallas would call a manchester!

Miraz
March 18, 2010, 04:47 PM
This is nothing new. Pietersen is trying to bully BCB and curtaors to get a pitch suitable for England team. They had to struggle to defeat Bangladesh in Chittagong and now they want to do it easily on a responsive surface for the English bowlers. Graeme Simth did the same after the Dhaka Test.

reyme
March 18, 2010, 04:52 PM
I wonder what is our IQ level as a nation, as a cricketing country, as team management, as fans etc. as
compared to the rest of the world. Who are the smartest people in the world?

Fazal
March 18, 2010, 04:55 PM
I. Who are the smartest people in the world?

The chinese?

fishyguy
March 18, 2010, 04:56 PM
Totally agree. What a joke of a pitch it was.

nahaz
March 18, 2010, 05:10 PM
Why are you guys so defensive? Its a very good point..the pitch should not be so flat..but then again we are BD and we cant really score on any other wicket..and someone said we batted well? Really? Not even putting 350 in both innings and we batted well? On such a flat pitch we should really put up scores 350-400 in each innings..test match cricket in general should have sporting wickets in order to get results but KP had 2 realize we are not on their level yet and so a result will come out no matter what pitch we play on..so i think kp makes a good point that these of picthes are bad 4 test cricket..

Yes, KP makes a good point about the pitch. But in this case, he has to realise a very lively pitch could've made the game quite one-sided. Nevertheless, a bit more life on the pitch can't hurt. And the pitch should have spin on it from late day 3.

I fwe constantly make this kijnd of wicket, we'd never get good fast bolwers, just like India.

BD-Shardul
March 18, 2010, 05:21 PM
This is nothing new. Pietersen is trying to bully BCB and curtaors to get a pitch suitable for England team. They had to struggle to defeat Bangladesh in Chittagong and now they want to do it easily on a responsive surface for the English bowlers. Graeme Simth did the same after the Dhaka Test.

Prothom Alo summed it up properly:

[বাংলা]খেলা হবে বাংলাদেশে আর উইকেট হবে পিটারসেনদের মনমতো তা তো আর হয় না! [/বাংলা]

alibangali
March 18, 2010, 05:44 PM
I'd rather have someone calling the pitch a joke than our team.
Another sign that we are improving

Tiger444
March 18, 2010, 06:56 PM
This is nothing new. Pietersen is trying to bully BCB and curtaors to get a pitch suitable for England team. They had to struggle to defeat Bangladesh in Chittagong and now they want to do it easily on a responsive surface for the English bowlers. Graeme Simth did the same after the Dhaka Test.

Struggle? Ya we did put up a fight but we all knew england was gonna end up winning..it was gonna be a win for them ever since they scored 599 in the 1st innings..we couldnt get them all out in either innings so they really didnt struggle..maybe a little frustrated with big Z and mushys partnership..

FagunerAgun
March 18, 2010, 08:25 PM
Struggle? Ya we did put up a fight but we all knew england was gonna end up winning..it was gonna be a win for them ever since they scored 599 in the 1st innings..we couldnt get them all out in either innings so they really didnt struggle..maybe a little frustrated with big Z and mushys partnership..
Agreed.
A resistance from BD made them frustrated and unhappy, now whining for the pitch.
Who cares? Every country makes the pitch to be in their favor.
BD is not an exception, and must not.

Akib
March 18, 2010, 08:28 PM
Well he has a point. Dead pitches like that really turn you of tests....

Hopefully the Dhaka pitch is better.

IanW
March 18, 2010, 08:38 PM
This is nothing new. Pietersen is trying to bully BCB and curtaors to get a pitch suitable for England team. They had to struggle to defeat Bangladesh in Chittagong and now they want to do it easily on a responsive surface for the English bowlers. Graeme Simth did the same after the Dhaka Test.

Miraz,

That pitch *was* suitable for the England team.

It was a road. It didnt turn. They had more disciplined fast bowlers, and more disciplined batsmen. Even if you say the slow bowling was about equal, that means they are more likely to win on a road.

Ian Whitchurch

Zunaid
March 18, 2010, 08:59 PM
Agreed.
A resistance from BD made them frustrated and unhappy, now whining for the pitch.
Who cares? Every country makes the pitch to be in their favor.
BD is not an exception, and must not.

WE did not make a pitch that in our favor - we made a pitch (followed by an appalling toss decision) that ensured the result barring a few highlights for us poor Bangladeshi fans.

bharat
March 18, 2010, 10:11 PM
I disagree with the posters in here . BD need to drive in the home advantage .BD's home advantage is not turners but rather pitches with loads of runs .Sure the games might end up in a dull draw , but for a team that is desperately trying to avoid defeat its the best formula.

SL thrived on this , before the advent of Murali they prepared dead pitches.This gave them ample time to develop their batsmen without having to go through the ignominy of repeated defeats

Ajfar
March 18, 2010, 11:25 PM
ask him how he did in the practice match, he'll tell you all about it.

Ajfar
March 18, 2010, 11:27 PM
but for a team that is desperately trying to avoid defeat its the best formula.

as good as it sounds, avoiding defeats won't save us from the critics. so we have to plan to win, if we never plan to win, we will never win.

tiger_2007
March 19, 2010, 02:14 AM
Who cares? You are visiting here, so get used to it! You won't make changes your wickets when BD visits <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.banglacricket.com/alochona/ /><st1:country-region w:st=<st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>. Moreover, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> is lucky enough to practice warm up matches at the same venue. Enough hospitality is shown to you guys!

Baundule
March 19, 2010, 03:52 AM
Strategically, we need to build flat pitches, because at this point in time, we would be happy to just draw the match. Every country tries to make the pitch that suits their purpose. Sporting pitch or what-so-ever is in the book only. Result matters!

IanW
March 19, 2010, 03:55 AM
Baundule,

The only problem with that theory is that Bangladesh do not have stick-to-it batsmen who can grind out a slow day's play.

They do, on the other hand, have batsmen who (if the day is right) can hit a hundred in a session.

Me, I say if you wouldnt fix a game with drugs, and if you wouldnt fix a game with thugs, then dont fix it with curators.

Baundule
March 19, 2010, 03:57 AM
as good as it sounds, avoiding defeats won't save us from the critics. so we have to plan to win, if we never plan to win, we will never win.
sy bhai, Do you really think that we have improved that far to win against England in test in 'sporting' pitches? A draw smells much better than a loss in three days. About the improvement, we should proceed step by step. What-ever the pitch might be, it is not easy to 'concentrate' hard over several sessions. A flat pitch would at least help us in building confidence and attitude.

Baundule
March 19, 2010, 04:02 AM
Baundule,

The only problem with that theory is that Bangladesh do not have stick-to-it batsmen who can grind out a slow day's play.

They do, on the other hand, have batsmen who (if the day is right) can hit a hundred in a session.

Me, I say if you wouldnt fix a game with drugs, and if you wouldnt fix a game with thugs, then dont fix it with curators.
It's the problem with the application; but why not trying to maximize the home advantage? For us, the aim was clearly avoiding a defeat.

About hitting a hundred in a session, that has happened only when the match has already been gone. Then the opposition did not have the intensity and/or our batsmen were playing out of frustration, hitting everything on their way and just being lucky. The key point is, we have never batted quickly in a planned way to win a test match.

IanW
March 19, 2010, 04:08 AM
It's the problem with the application; but why not trying to maximize the home advantage? For us, the aim was clearly avoiding a defeat.

About hitting a hundred in a session, that has happened only when the match has already been gone. Then the opposition did not have the intensity and/or our batsmen were playing out of frustration, hitting everything on their way and just being lucky. The key point is, we have never batted quickly in a planned way to win a test match.

Me, I say if you wouldnt fix a game with drugs, and if you wouldnt fix a game with thugs, then dont fix it with curators.

Oh yeah, and the game was still very much live when Sakib scored 99 in a session in Hamilton - I was sitting with some very nervous NZ fans.

Baundule
March 19, 2010, 05:11 AM
Me, I say if you wouldnt fix a game with drugs, and if you wouldnt fix a game with thugs, then dont fix it with curators.

Oh yeah, and the game was still very much live when Sakib scored 99 in a session in Hamilton - I was sitting with some very nervous NZ fans.
Ian, It is all about taking home advantage, it is not about listening to sermons, because the world is not fair. I am not talking about not improving the game; but as everyone else is taking the same advantage, being the saints and fair (in British definition) is not a good option.

And in the Hamilton test we were 5 down for something like 60/70 runs chasing 400+ in the fourth innings. I do not think that anyone with some cricketing history would think that there was any question of winning the match. What Shakib was doing is just slogging fearlessly, because win was already out of the list of possibilities. He was not batting with the 'plan' of winning.

Rabz
March 19, 2010, 05:25 AM
Ten years; we still talking about honourable defeats??

This is not 1950.

Ananna
March 19, 2010, 06:10 AM
Ten years; we still talking about honourable defeats??

This is not 1950.

There is no honor in defeat. Nobody remembers a looser no matter how they played.

alibangali
March 19, 2010, 07:17 AM
Whats the point of playing a match if even before you start playing you are already thinking of a loss or draw. You have to plan and make a strategy to win. this plan then evolves depending on match situation. If it seems like after playing your best that a draw is the best you can get then your plan and effort should reflect this. However you should never plan for draw and if the team ever plans for a honorable defeat before the game then we should stop playing.
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Ajfar
March 19, 2010, 08:43 AM
sy bhai, Do you really think that we have improved that far to win against England in test in 'sporting' pitches? A draw smells much better than a loss in three days. About the improvement, we should proceed step by step. What-ever the pitch might be, it is not easy to 'concentrate' hard over several sessions. A flat pitch would at least help us in building confidence and attitude.

Baundule bhai i don't see how flat pitches will get us a draw. Remember dhaka test last year, Smith and Mckenzie piled up 400+ in the opening partnership alone? we wouldn't want that all over again do we? our batting maybe improving, but its still not good enough to bat out 5-6 sessions on a regular basis. If we don't give our bowlers something to work with, opposition will pile up 600+ run easily, and we will fall on follow on.

Tiger444
March 19, 2010, 08:48 AM
I think on a sporting wicket we need struggle way more..we just cannot bat on any other surface besides flat pitches..englands batsmen are just flat out better then us so its the best 2 make flat pitches 2 help out the btasmen..slowly and surely we will be able 2 bat out draws..

Ajfar
March 19, 2010, 09:19 AM
I think on a sporting wicket we need struggle way more..we just cannot bat on any other surface besides flat pitches..englands batsmen are just flat out better then us so its the best 2 make flat pitches 2 help out the btasmen..slowly and surely we will be able 2 bat out draws..

well if that is the at least in a sporting wicket our bowlers can get a shot at the batsman's.

auntu
March 19, 2010, 01:45 PM
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নাচতে না জানলে উঠান বাকা।

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FagunerAgun
March 19, 2010, 08:50 PM
I wonder how come Swann got ten wickets in a dull and flat pitch that his cronies are complaining against!

Bond
March 19, 2010, 08:52 PM
yes the pitched had to be slammed dunk and kevin peitersen took good advantage of his height. 3 pointers (high five)