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Shafin
April 20, 2010, 04:09 PM
Can Banglacricket get a banner to support avro against the blatant accusations Mostafa Jabbar is making?
Many prominent bangla sites are doing it, like somewherein amarbondhu etc.
Banglacricket was the place that led numerous people including me to the wonderous world of avro. A banner in support of avro would really be nice, as BC has great reach among internet-savvy Bangladeshis.

More info about the accusations and their reply here on the blog of avro developer Mehdi Hasan Khan (http://www.sachalayatan.com/omicronlab/31599)

Nasif
April 20, 2010, 04:59 PM
BC has been one of the first supporters of Avro during its early stages. It is still listed in our partner sites http://www.banglacricket.com/html/footer/partners.php. Mehdi Hasan did sign up in BC as well during that time.

Mostafa Jabbar is a thief. [বাংলা]চোরের বড় গলা মানায় না।[/বাংলা] This is guy has no clue about Bangla and technology. His sole contribution that I can think of is the Bijoy keyboard layout. Rest is stolen from different places. He should just keep his mouth shut.

As far as other means of support (banner), let us think about it.

babubangla
April 20, 2010, 05:21 PM
[বাংলা]অভ্র'র সমর্থনে অন্ততঃ এক সপ্তাহের জন্য বাংলায় ব্যানার চাই[/বাংলা]

Zunaid
April 20, 2010, 06:13 PM
Mehdi responds to Jabbar's allegaation:

http://www.sachalayatan.com/omicronlab/31599

ভাষা উন্মুক্ত হবেই

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লিখেছেন মেহদী হাসান খান (http://www.sachalayatan.com/user/omicronlab) (তারিখ: মঙ্গল, ২০১০-০৪-২০ ১৯:৫০)
ক্যাটেগরী: সমসাময়িক (http://www.sachalayatan.com/taxonomy/term/779) | অভ্র (http://www.sachalayatan.com/taxonomy/term/1493) | জনকণ্ঠ (http://www.sachalayatan.com/taxonomy/term/8581) | পাইরেসি (http://www.sachalayatan.com/taxonomy/term/4819) | প্রতিক্রিয়া (http://www.sachalayatan.com/taxonomy/term/1697) | মোস্তফা জব্বার (http://www.sachalayatan.com/taxonomy/term/8580)


গত ৮ এপ্রিল, ২০১০ তারিখ "সাইবার যুদ্ধের যুগে প্রথম পা ॥ একুশ শতক" শিরোনামে মোস্তফা জব্বার দৈনিক জনকণ্ঠে একটি লেখা দিয়েছেন, যার মূল বক্তব্য সাম্প্রতিক সরকারী অনেকগুলো ওয়েবসাইট হ্যাকিং এর ঘটনা। সুকৌশলে তিনি এর সঙ্গে জড়িয়েছেন বিনামূল্যে বাংলা লেখার সফটওয়্যার অভ্র কীবোর্ড, জাতিসঙ্ঘের UNDP এবং নির্বাচন কমিশন কে। অভ্রকে "পাইরেটেড সফটওয়্যার" উল্লেখ করে তিনি বলেন-
"আমার বিজয় সফটওয়্যারের পাইরেটেড সংস্করণ ইন্টারনেটে প্রদান করার ক্ষেত্রে এই হ্যাকাররা চরম পারদর্শিতা প্রদর্শন করেছে। এই হ্যাকার ও পাইরেটদের সহায়তা করার ক্ষেত্রে ইউএনডিপির নামও যুক্ত আছে। অভ্র নামক একটি পাইরেটেড বাংলা সফটওয়্যারকে নির্বাচন কমিশনে অন্তর্ভুক্ত করার ক্ষেত্রে ইউএনডিপির অবদান সবচেয়ে বেশি। ফলে প্রধানমন্ত্রীর কার্যালয়ের একসেস টু ইনফরমেশন সেলের ওয়েবসাইট হ্যাক হলে তার দায় থেকেও ইউএনডিপিকে ছাড় দেয়া যায় না।"

Zunaid
April 20, 2010, 06:16 PM
A related blog from "the 3rd world view" by Rezwan Islam

Avro Vs. Bijoy: Let Language Be Free (http://rezwanul.blogspot.com/2010/04/avro-vs-bijoy-let-language-be-free.html) (http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=5254619&postID=5408625580022476199)

Posted by Rezwan in Bangla (http://rezwanul.blogspot.com/search/label/Bangla), Bangladesh (http://rezwanul.blogspot.com/search/label/Bangladesh), Language (http://rezwanul.blogspot.com/search/label/Language)
The Bangla blogosphere and Bangladeshi Facebook users are infuriated with protests as 'Avro (http://omicronlab.com/)', one of the popular and widely used open source Bangla input systems, was accused as a pirated version of another popular Bangla input system 'Bijoy (http://rezwanul.blogspot.com/www.bijoyekushe.net)' and the Avro team was mentioned as hackers.

In an article (http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=13&dd=2010-04-04&ni=13623) in a Bangla news daily, Mustafa Jabbar, the proprietor of Bijoy and a pioneer of Bangla computing said hackers were responsible for spreading pirated copies of his Bijoy software on the internet. He also said that UNDP had helped these hackers to be selected by the Bangladesh Election commission for their national database works.

....

Zunaid
April 20, 2010, 06:23 PM
Advent of Bangla Software:

http://www.bpedia.org/S_0449.php

Table Bengali Software (1984-2002)
<table border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="3" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td bgcolor="#c0c0c0" width="33%">Software Name</td> <td bgcolor="#c0c0c0" width="33%">Year launched</td> <td bgcolor="#c0c0c0" width="34%">Developer </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Shahid Lipi <sup>1, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1984 January</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%">Saif Ud Doha Shahid</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Mainul Lipi <sup>1, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">1986</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%">Mainul Islam</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Abaho <sup>2, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1988 November</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%">Automation Engineers</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Bijoy <sup>1, 3, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">1988 December</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%">Ananda Computers</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Onirban <sup>2, 3, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1990 February</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%">Onirban</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Barna <sup>2, p</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">1990 February</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%">Safe Works</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Basundhara <sup>1, 3, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1992 February</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Barnana <sup>3, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">1993 February</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Jatiyo <sup>3, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1993 June</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%">Government </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Prashikashabda <sup>3, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">1994 February</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%">Proshika</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Lekhoni <sup>1, 3, p</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1994 December</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Asha <sup>3, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">1994 December</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Prabartan <sup>3, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1994 December</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%">Computers Srvices</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Orcosoft Borno <sup>3, p *</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">1998 June</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%">Orcosoft, USA </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Adarsha Bangla <sup>3, p *</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1999</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%">Adarsha Bangla Technol.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Bhasha Saynik <sup>3, m</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">1999</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%">MicroTech</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Duranta Bangla <sup>3, m</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1999</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%">United Computers</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Natural Bangla <sup>3, p</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">1999</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%">CDSIT </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Lekhok <sup>3, p</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">1999 December</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%">Protivasoft, USA</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Bangla2000 <sup>3, p *</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">2002 June</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%">BornoSOft,USA</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">Ekushey <sup>3, k</sup></td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="33%">2001</td> <td bgcolor="#c9f1f1" width="34%">Altruists, UK</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">Bangla word <sup>3, p </sup></td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="33%">2002</td> <td bgcolor="#f4f4f4" width="34%">Bangla Software Group</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" bgcolor="#c0c0c0" width="100%"> <sup>1</sup> Macintosh, <sup>2</sup> DOS, <sup>3</sup> Windows. <sup>k</sup> Keyboard Driver, <sup>p <o:p> </o:p> </sup>
Word Processor, <sup>m</sup> Visual keyboard (Typing by mouse click)
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
The Onirban crew were good friends of mine. Onirban was the first windows based software while Bijoy was for Macs.

But all of these are preceded by the pioneering Shaheed Lipi.

Yours truly also developed a "Bangla Wordprocessor" for my undergraduate thesis at BUET - 1988.

Development of a Bangla Wordprocessor: AMORE. Rajibul Akhter, Zunaid Kazi and Rezaur Rahman. Undergraduate Thesis, Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering, Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology, Dhaka, Bangladesh, August 1988

bujhee kom
April 20, 2010, 06:34 PM
Totally Go Avro! Go Mehedi bhai!!

I posted my comment about that Jabbar scum on Mehedi bhai's column!!

magic boy
April 20, 2010, 10:12 PM
glad to see Avro & BC working together. :up:
<br />Posted via BC Mobile Edition (Opera Mobile)

magic boy
May 5, 2010, 11:37 PM
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UrMVnOotPO8&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UrMVnOotPO8&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

the actual programmer left a hidden message inside the software saying Mr Jobbar didn't pay him in full

Ashraf-FTP
May 6, 2010, 03:52 PM
wooow. If that video is not a fake that this is sad. Really something serious neeeds to be done :o

And no BC banner for [বাংলা]অভ্র[/বাংলা]?