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al Furqaan
June 19, 2010, 06:04 PM
lots of doom and gloom these days...how will we fare against some of the top Associates when we play them in just one months time?

2-match series in Ireland, and then a pair of matches against Scotland and Netherlands in Scotland.

while i'm just as disgusted by the cowardly batting display by shakib, riyad, naeem, and most of all Ashraful, i think we're in one of those periodic low phases. this happens to all teams, just happens to us more frequently.

i for one am confident of getting out of it, and still feel we can make the 2nd round of the World Cup on HOME soil.

yes, these fantastic collapses need to be addressed, and i think Siddons can fix the problem soon enough.

but more worrisome is the defeatist attitude swirling around the team.

al Furqaan
June 19, 2010, 06:11 PM
this thread will seperate the knee-jerkers from the calm and collected.

Murad
June 19, 2010, 06:21 PM
Ami shubidhabadi tai 2nd optiontai vote dilam. Hoito aro kharap hote pare..i mean option 3 te o hote pare..

Miraz
June 19, 2010, 06:44 PM
It should be 4-0 in favour of Bangladesh. No question about that.

Anything less than that is a failure. However, I am not expecting 4-0, I will be happy with 3-1. I sincerely hope our freefall ends there, anything less than 3-1 will be complete humiliation

Ajfar
June 19, 2010, 08:21 PM
We might need our secret weapon SN back for this tour.
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Tiger444
June 19, 2010, 08:24 PM
We might need our secret weapon SN back for this tour.
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Not a bad idea..having a minnow basher seems like a pretty good idea now..at least he can bash weak teams which seems like what we need now..

brockley
June 19, 2010, 08:49 PM
I expect ireland to win 1 game if not both,bangladesh is not real competitive now.
Holland is without detouschate who is injured watch out for aussie tom cooper,but expect bangladesh to win.
Scotland despite getting 200 vs england is inconsistent,so don't expect a win their.
Went for 3-1 win to bangladesh,realism.

al-Sagar
June 19, 2010, 09:15 PM
if ash is dropped ...... we will win all matches.

i hope by then mash and shafiul with some more games will sharpen up.

specially the warmups in england and the england ODI.

bujhee kom
June 19, 2010, 09:24 PM
Kothin Proshno!
"Rurotom Bastobong, Kothina Bastobo Rurodra holeo Shottosri ebong Kothina!"
- Praachin Bangla Probad Bakko! Ancient Bengali Proverb! (Most likely Pre Paal-Gupta Dynasty)

Pure embarrassment it is for me, still support the team, as you just have to. Pathetic to say the least!@
I can't trust this team or this management + BCB with 2 cents!!! I fear we will lose all 4, unless we are a bit lucky there!! :flag:

rashed411
June 19, 2010, 10:59 PM
Yes, minnow losing to a minnow... not so surprising.

Tiger444
June 19, 2010, 11:10 PM
Yes, minnow losing to a minnow... not so surprising.

yes we have 2 accept the fact that we have the minnow tag still and until we start 2 completely dominate the other minnows AND start beating test teams on a regular basis then people will not call us minnows anymore..but we are far away from being that..

M.H.Rubel
June 20, 2010, 12:41 AM
We have to win both matches against Scotland and Netherland.Ireland is a very competitive team and they will play in their home soil so if we lose 1 game against them it can be tolerable.So i have gone for 3-1 option.But i am sure Both ODI against Ireland will be a testing time for us.
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al-Sagar
June 20, 2010, 01:25 AM
"Rurotom Bastobong, Kothina Bastobo Rurodra holeo Shottosri ebong Kothina

apni to asholei bujhen kom ... ... ..

Imteaz
June 20, 2010, 01:41 AM
No, Bangladesh will win. If lose than it will be just an upset like we beat Australia or Srilanka sometimes.

nobody
June 20, 2010, 01:53 AM
No, Bangladesh will win. If lose than it will be just an upset like we beat Australia or Srilanka sometimes.
losing to Ireland would not be an upset to me

reyme
June 20, 2010, 03:21 AM
I see a 2-2 disaster in the making. Maybe even worse.

With the current bunch, BCB management hits the lowest ebb, hugely responsible for current disaster. No bowling coach, not enough supporting staff for the cricketers (think ENG), hectic schedule leading not enough time for players to get used to cond etc..

All those big talk from Lotus Kamal: bringing superstars from foreign countries for coaching and advisors, spreading cricket all over the country, making better cricket facilities and structure for BD... all remain just big talks and no work. This is the worst BCB ever. Hence you see so many resignation, and no CEO...so that Lotus and company can steal freestyle and make BCB another BIMAN. Sigh! Is it the end of BD cricket?

zainab
June 20, 2010, 07:10 AM
I see a 2-2 disaster in the making. Maybe even worse.

With the current bunch, BCB management hits the lowest ebb, hugely responsible for current disaster. No bowling coach, not enough supporting staff for the cricketers (think ENG), hectic schedule leading not enough time for players to get used to cond etc..

All those big talk from Lotus Kamal: bringing superstars from foreign countries for coaching and advisors, spreading cricket all over the country, making better cricket facilities and structure for BD... all remain just big talks and no work. This is the worst BCB ever. Hence you see so many resignation, and no CEO...so that Lotus and company can steal freestyle and make BCB another BIMAN. Sigh! Is it the end of BD cricket?


Completey agree! Big talk and no action. You guys are bashing the players relentlessly, but they had to interrupt a tour where the weather was much cooler, they were getting used to the temperate weather and boucy wicket, their bodies had gotten used to the time change, then flying back east with a 8 to 9 hour time difference, hot and humid conditions, flat wicket, BIG contrast, India, Pak and SL were already at home and used to these conditions. After all, they are human. BD here are at the biggest disadvantage where the teams are concerned.
Now, these poor boys have to get in a plane and return west with another 8 to 9 hours time change, to cooler climate and bouncier wickets. It will take anoher week before their bodies can adjust, your bodies and brains react slower when you cross many time zones, and I think this is what has happened to them, they have been too lethargic.

Baundule
June 20, 2010, 07:49 AM
zainab, can we cancel the WI tour then? :D

FagunerAgun
June 20, 2010, 08:10 AM
I can still remember the day BD lost to baby Canada in South Africa.

Roni_uk
June 20, 2010, 08:30 AM
Here is a projection of Bangladeshi fans around the world.

Totally blind fans.

al Furqaan, Baundule, Imteaz, nadim 98, Neel Here, nycpro96, offstump, Spitfire_x86, Tiger444, Tigers_eye, unda_bhai

These guys usually suffer from numbness and disbelief and are in total denial of the fact that Bangladeshi cricket is going downhill and continue to do so for the rest of the year. They cry everyday saying, 'I don't believe it.. it can't happen'.


One eyed blind fans.

brockley, M.H.Rubel, Miraz, Murad, zainab

These are so called bargaining fans who think that may be they will wake up and find things are not as bad as it appears. The team will do the right thing (just like they think before all other matches) and things will come the right way, perhaps not the perfect way but the right way.


Confused fan/s

Dilscoop

Guilt is what they suffer from. These fans say to themselves over and over, "If only they had or if only they had not.. " and ultimately accepting the fact that we are all human being and lets give our best and worst and call it a draw!



The Realist(s)

bujhee kom.

They suffer from Anger. It is a big factor which seems to be necessary in order to face the reality of life and then to get beyond it. They look for a glimpse of light even if it is a tiny one and hope that life will continue as normal.


Extreme realist (Depressed fans)

AsifTheManRahman, MohammedC, Nafi, rashed411, reyme, Roni_uk, salin, sksaad11

These guys are in belief that things will never be the same again but the life will go on to find meaning and purpose. They usually suffer from depression as they learn to accept the true reality.

So which one are you?

... ok this is Sunday afternoon and I am totally bored watching PAR v SLK match and decided to make fun of all of us by putting us in the phases of grief. Take the above light heartedly and ignore :).

Good luck Bangladesh!

crikss
June 20, 2010, 10:32 AM
lol...we are still minnows so it doesn't matter

Tiger444
June 20, 2010, 10:53 AM
Here is a projection of Bangladeshi fans around the world.

Totally blind fans.

al Furqaan, Baundule, Imteaz, nadim 98, Neel Here, nycpro96, offstump, Spitfire_x86, Tiger444, Tigers_eye, unda_bhai

These guys usually suffer from numbness and disbelief and are in total denial of the fact that Bangladeshi cricket is going downhill and continue to do so for the rest of the year. They cry everyday saying, 'I don't believe it.. it can't happen'.


One eyed blind fans.

brockley, M.H.Rubel, Miraz, Murad, zainab

These are so called bargaining fans who think that may be they will wake up and find things are not as bad as it appears. The team will do the right thing (just like they think before all other matches) and things will come the right way, perhaps not the perfect way but the right way.


Confused fan/s

Dilscoop

Guilt is what they suffer from. These fans say to themselves over and over, "If only they had or if only they had not.. " and ultimately accepting the fact that we are all human being and lets give our best and worst and call it a draw!



The Realist(s)

bujhee kom.

They suffer from Anger. It is a big factor which seems to be necessary in order to face the reality of life and then to get beyond it. They look for a glimpse of light even if it is a tiny one and hope that life will continue as normal.


Extreme realist (Depressed fans)

AsifTheManRahman, MohammedC, Nafi, rashed411, reyme, Roni_uk, salin, sksaad11

These guys are in belief that things will never be the same again but the life will go on to find meaning and purpose. They usually suffer from depression as they learn to accept the true reality.

So which one are you?

... ok this is Sunday afternoon and I am totally bored watching PAR v SLK match and decided to make fun of all of us by putting us in the phases of grief. Take the above light heartedly and ignore :).

Good luck Bangladesh!

Roni I am totally honored to be on your list..found this list hilarious..I could see why you list me in the blind list..I try to be positive because it seems people get way 2 upset and depressed here when we do bad..so when I see that I try 2 give everyone belief..I don't want to give up ever but of course I get frustrated but I will always have belief for our cricket..but you say that we are going downhill..last time I've looked we've been in this position for a long time..we've been a level or 2 ahead of the other minnows but a level or 2 behind the other test teams..I don't know why your saying we're going downhill..we've just not improved and thats where our problem has been and will be for a while..realistically with this BCB in place I highly doubt these dumb fools will improve our cricket..I've always maintained that our domestic setup and age level cricket has got 2 get better..we need foreign coaches 2 teach the basics of cricket so that when the guys reach the national team, they can learn different shots..we won't see much improvement unless we see this take place..we could get away with beating minnows with our structure but beating test teams regularly requires proper planning and structure..just having a bunch of young immature kids just grind and get beat up through international cricket is just gonna take a long time and we don't know if its gonna even work..it will take a long time 2 find out..

BanArafath
June 20, 2010, 11:12 AM
I like this thread and thanks to Furqaan for opening this good thread.

Actually, the performance of Bangladesh is as the same as last year but the other minnows like Zimbabwe, Ireland, Scotland have improved a lot. You can ask how and why ???

Zimbabwe has got better cricketing facilities than Bangladesh has got. Ireland and Scotland have got some good players who play in the English county leagues over the year. How many BD players play in in the county crickt ?? NONE !!! Shakib is the only BD player who has got the opportunity to play in the county leagues but he didn't start playing yet.

BanArafath
June 20, 2010, 11:22 AM
Look at the domestic stracture of poor Bangladesh, they have got only 4 bowling machines all over Bangladesh and those are only in Mirpur stadium in Dhaka. There are very poor cricketing facilities out side of Dhaka. When the players are not playing international cricket they have nothing much to do about keeping themselves in good shape who are living out side of Dhaka.

habfreak
June 20, 2010, 11:38 AM
Bring back SN, Aftab and Shahadat for this series and see if they can get a much needed confidence boost for future series. Also Keep Rasel and Mashrafe to get them back into rhythm. These players all have talent and we need them for the world cup.

bujhee kom
June 20, 2010, 03:38 PM
Here is a projection of Bangladeshi fans around the world.

Totally blind fans.

....

Guilt is what they suffer from. These fans say to themselves over and over, "If only they had or if only they had not.. " and ultimately accepting the fact that we are all human being and lets give our best and worst and call it a draw!

...

The Realist(s)

bujhee kom.

They suffer from Anger. It is a big factor which seems to be necessary in order to face the reality of life and then to get beyond it. They look for a glimpse of light even if it is a tiny one and hope that life will continue as normal.

...

So which one are you?

... ok this is Sunday afternoon and I am totally bored watching PAR v SLK match and decided to make fun of all of us by putting us in the phases of grief. Take the above light heartedly and ignore :).

Good luck Bangladesh!

Ooohhh thank you my dearest Roni bhai! I am speechless and ami ki bolbo bolar kuno bhasha khuje pacchi naa, Ami apnar jonno amertoo dua korbo! Allah bless you my dearest bhai!!
To all my bhais and apas, see, how nice Roni bhai is, learn from him please. This man know how to honor a genuine genious.

Roni bhai, is your father's name Farook bhai? Are you from London?

P.S. Roni bhai, apni amar book-ta ajke Behester borofer motoo thanda kore disen re bhai, thank you!

desirocker
June 20, 2010, 05:43 PM
our team is all about consistency. We should loose aginst them if we wanna prove that we can consistently loose all type of games

Roni_uk
June 20, 2010, 06:43 PM
Roni I am totally honored to be on your list...

You are on the list coz you voted :) but thanks.

Ooohhh thank you my dearest Roni bhai! I am speechless

:P.. I am glad to make you so happy - lol.

No my father's name is not Farook but yes I do live in London.

Purbasha T
June 20, 2010, 07:00 PM
I can still remember the day BD lost to baby Canada in South Africa.

The next day was Eid. :( And I was watching it with my dad. I was so angry after that match that when I went to the bathroom afterwards, I accidentally dropped the toilet brush inside our bangla-commode...for which I went to wake my mum up, but my dad told me to wrap my hand with a polythin and get that thing out by myself. Multi-disasterful night, that was!! :mad:

bujhee kom
June 20, 2010, 08:39 PM
The next day was Eid. :( And I was watching it with my dad. I was so angry after that match that when I went to the bathroom afterwards, I accidentally dropped the toilet brush inside our bangla-commode...for which I went to wake my mum up, but my dad told me to wrap my hand with a polythin and get that thing out by myself. Multi-disasterful night, that was!! :mad:

Hahahaha...Awesome! Salaam Purba Pronob dost :)! Supreme killer post of the year!!!

Neel Here
June 20, 2010, 10:08 PM
second that ! :D

zainab
June 20, 2010, 10:10 PM
Roni, I was just wondering why you list me as


One eyed blind fans,

brockley, M.H.Rubel, Miraz, Murad, zainab

These are so called bargaining fans who think that may be they will wake up and find things are not as bad as it appears. The team will do the right thing (just like they think before all other matches) and things will come the right way, perhaps not the perfect way but the right way

I think that I say it as it is. In as much as i wish these lads to win a match, i an not very upset when they lose, It is a game, but I was really angry when they gifted part time bowlers ike Sehwag and Dilshan their wickets and thought that from now on, opposing teams will allow their part time bowlers to bowl out the team.
One has to be realistic about this team, they are definitely not up to international standard, but have a lot of guts to play the big boys, they look like schoolboys and play like schoolboys, they do not havethat killer instinct in them, and how long they and their captain contiue to have that defeatist attitude, they will never win matches against the G8 teams,
I sympathise with all the fans here, and always hope for a better performance from our team.

zainab
June 20, 2010, 10:12 PM
zainab, can we cancel the WI tour then? :D

I am at sea here. What WI tour?