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Nafi
June 21, 2010, 04:21 PM
After being caned for 385 by Afridi and Co, Bangladesh's batsmen shut shop almost as soon as their top batsman Tamim Iqbal was dismissed in the eighth over. "It was an impossible target for us at the moment, we still lost five-six wickets getting to 245," Siddons said. "I'm not going to let anyone criticize the team for our approach. If Tamim had made 150, we could have chased 350-380, that was our plan, he went out there to be aggressive, if he had his day like Afridi, anything's possible but Imrul [Kayes] and Junaid [Siddique] had no chance of making 385 off their bat, no chance."


http://www.cricinfo.com/asia2010/content/current/story/464196.html

I completely agree

WE NEED A BOWLING COACH

Dilscoop
June 21, 2010, 04:34 PM
"but Imrul [Kayes] and Junaid [Siddique] had no chance of making 385 off their bat, no chance."

That shows how clueless head coach he can be. I know it's realistic, but thats not why we are paying. He cant just say these kinda things!!

Miraz
June 21, 2010, 04:35 PM
He is pretty impressive in pointing fingures to everyone except himself.

Why bowlers are failing day in day out? What is his plan to rectify the problem? have you heard anything about that? Last time I have checked, he is still the head coach, not the batting coach.

He is a coach with zero input to bowling and does not believe in the ability of his batters.

Bravo!! Bangladesh cricket is in good hand.

Nafi
June 21, 2010, 04:45 PM
I dont blame Siddons for being clueless with the bowling, his speciality is batting, batting, batting and captaincy.

does not believe in the ability of his batters

Oh come on, be realistic, you know with eid boy being water boy and without Tamim having a good day there was no hope to reach that target.

Dilscoop
June 21, 2010, 04:49 PM
Like I said, he is NOT suppose to be realistic. He is the freaking coach. And that is the difference between Whatmore and JS.

And no, his job is not batting. We did not hire him as the batting coach. He is a headcoach..

Baundule
June 21, 2010, 04:51 PM
Sick of Siddons' talking. Some bad words almost came out of my mouth! This terrible §$"%&/%/% never takes the share of blame. He is an all perfect $§%&/§"$& and everyone else in the team is the reason for losing the match!

Dilscoop
June 21, 2010, 04:57 PM
If we wanted good things for Bdesh cricket, and good things only, we should have No pro Siddons. We should all want him to be sacked...

Miraz
June 21, 2010, 04:58 PM
We, south Asians are only good at blame game

I didn't know that Siddons took a South Asian passport. When and where?

deshifan
June 21, 2010, 04:59 PM
sorry. i deleted the post. better making no comment.

Dilscoop
June 21, 2010, 05:01 PM
He is just waiting for his contact to be over. He doesn't even care anymore. SACK HIM PLEASE

Raynman
June 21, 2010, 05:06 PM
It must be said that Siddons has created a culture of 'batting only' which has made the team suffer tremendously in terms of bowling, fielding and keeping.

Siddons from the get go tried to build a deep batting line up as the first priority ignoring if the other important needs of the team was met.

Hatekrew
June 21, 2010, 05:10 PM
"but Imrul [Kayes] and Junaid [Siddique] had no chance of making 385 off their bat, no chance."

That shows how clueless head coach he can be. I know it's realistic, but thats not why we are paying. He cant just say these kinda things!!
Totally agree. If he can so BLUNTLY say this about Junaid, he is clearly not the man to lead and nurture our team. First of all Junaid is more than able to play aggressively. And what the hell did Imrul do? That was just ridiculous, 60 off 120 balls?? If Sid thinks our batting is so inept then he should just stop coaching us because clearly he is getting paid for nothing.

I think it would have been better to go down in flames than concede defeat @ halfway point of the match. We are an international team, not some part-time recreational cricket club. This should not be the attitude of our cricket team.

And I'm telling you they are putting so much pressure on Tamim everytime, I have a bad feeling he will burn out fast. I just pray to god that doesn't happen.

dolcevita
June 21, 2010, 05:18 PM
Kayes is a shoker why he needs 24 deliveries to get off mark ?
Against india he was scoring quicker than tamim...
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Dilscoop
June 21, 2010, 05:38 PM
"if Tamim made 150." wth! Even if Tamim made 150, the way Imrul was going at the other end, even if he made 200, we wouldn't have won. His excuses and the craps the comes out of his mouth is soo unprofessional

alibangali
June 21, 2010, 07:11 PM
FFS whether the players are capable of scoring those runs is not the issue, to give up before even trying is unforgiveable. Tamim was a cameo man yet he broke free from this and developed into an impressive player. Had he given up before trying then he would atill be stick there.

As a head coach to not have faith in your own players is a crime and he should be sacked.
We would have had less criticism if everyone was out for under 200 trying to chase the score.

We might as well stop playing now, our bowlers are crap and they will concede too much runs. Then our batsmen are incapable of chasing these runs so we might as well not waste publics money and time.
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simon
June 21, 2010, 07:37 PM
Kayes was given some weird instructions,we all know Kayes is not a quick scorer but no way he is that slow,eventhough it was a good prtnrshp but Kayes is much better than that.

cricket_pagol
June 21, 2010, 07:59 PM
The disappointing part was the lack of positivity from the batsman, especially Imrul kayes. I understand that your coach asked you to chase 250, but that does not mean that you have to block 20 balls to score your first run. In that respect Zunaid was much more positive, and definitely cemented his place in the side.

Obvisously I am not happy with Siddon's approach, but I understand why he set a small target for the team because we struggled to cross 200 during the last couple of innings.

simon
June 21, 2010, 08:22 PM
I'm afraid of what will happen to TI with so much burden?

Raynman
June 21, 2010, 08:33 PM
The disappointing part was the lack of positivity from the batsman, especially Imrul kayes. I understand that your coach asked you to chase 250, but that does not mean that you have to block 20 balls to score your first run. In that respect Zunaid was much more positive, and definitely cemented his place in the side.

Obvisously I am not happy with Siddon's approach, but I understand why he set a small target for the team because we struggled to cross 200 during the last couple of innings.

What does this target do? Was Pakistan trying to restrict them to below 250? If Pak scored 260 would he have revised his goal for the batsmen to 225 and then claimed success?

Dilscoop
June 21, 2010, 10:01 PM
^^ This is what he during last Asia cup too remember? He set a team total before every game, which he called it "the team target". He said '1st match we will score 185, then 2nd match 200, 3rd match 225'. We were clearly capable of score 250+ every time, but he never gave us the belief. The commies were puzzled by the coaching approach.

al-Sagar
June 21, 2010, 10:20 PM
in the 23 balls he faced before the first run mostly of shoaib ...... shoaib bowled a same lentgh and line and imrul just blocked, blocked ..... surely if he had been only 10% more intent to score a run he could shuffled and dropped it down to legside for a single or he could have opened the face and run it down to third man.

but imrul had no awareness, intention or skills to do that.

just wondering..... if imrul had rotataed the strike a bit more, at least 8 times in those 23 balls tamim may had not attempted that kind of stroke to asif.

shakibrulz
June 21, 2010, 10:24 PM
"but Imrul [Kayes] and Junaid [Siddique] had no chance of making 385 off their bat, no chance."

That shows how clueless head coach he can be. I know it's realistic, but thats not why we are paying. He cant just say these kinda things!!

Forget Zunaed and Imrul, even Sachin and Sehwag would've failed to lead chasing 385+ against Pak. It's a well known fact, there's nothing wrong in saying it. You're being far too cynical. :doh:

cricket_king
June 21, 2010, 10:44 PM
His blame-game antics have just gone too far. The team won't be going very far under him.

shakibrulz
June 21, 2010, 10:47 PM
Changing the coach won't help one bit. I can assure you that. But as OP said a bowling coach will be real handy.

Zeeshan
June 21, 2010, 11:36 PM
Did any of their players score 150? It's sickening to see that our coach doesn't have a scintilla of confidence on our players (Imrul and Junaid).

It's like your father telling you that since you shall never amount to anything might as well stick to doing chaash-baash. Gee thanks!

Tiger444
June 21, 2010, 11:51 PM
This is just 2 much..I gotta say I'm disappointed with Siddons..I really thought he was improving our cricket but I just cannot believe that no more..today's match proved that he just wants the team 2 play for a respectable loss..a score of 385 is 2 much but us going slogging from ball 1 was the way 2 go..and saying that just because tamim got out so they gave up? If I were Zunaed and Imrul I would be pissed..he's got no belief for them if he thinks that..why do they go out 2 play then if he thinks they can't go out and get the target?

Plain and simple we have 2 move on but removing Siddons right now is a bad idea..We should be able 2 move on from the group stage so I'm not worried about that but Siddons isn't gonna move our cricket forward..time 2 change it up..

Having said this though, the most blame has to go to BCB what the hell are they doing? Firing media managers and what not? Also not even trying to improve our domestic level and age group cricket? What about Lotus talking about getting a CEO? We really have brainless fools in the BCB who hire mediocre coaches..what do we really expect from Sid? He was never a head coach and a low key assistant for Australia..why didn't we get a guy with some head coaching experience? Also I don't want to hear Whatmore being a good coach either..if he's such a good coach then why did nobody else want to hire the guy? BCB pretty much tries 2 save money by hiring these coaches rather then getting some good expensive coaches..this current BCB will not take us anywhere MMW..

unda_bhai
June 21, 2010, 11:53 PM
Changing the coach won't help one bit. I can assure you that. But as OP said a bowling coach will be real handy.

word! the problem lies within the bangali attitude, mindset, and inability to learn. the problem is in the culture n governance. as long as that stays the same...nothing will change..no matter who ur coach is.

miraz bro, no disrespect, do u have any experience playing cricket at a competitive level and see first hand wat the coache's role is? or do u just hire n fire?

BANFAN
June 21, 2010, 11:58 PM
Everyone understands him so well, when he blames. He is very loud, prompt and on time with these things. Never missed a timing. And that's why he is liked by many. This is something he is best at.

I wish he would atleast behave like a good coach, & do his job. Sorry I forgot, that he doesnt have that ability, coz he isn't a good coach.

Dilscoop
June 22, 2010, 12:12 AM
People are coming to a realization. I'd say 70% of members in this thread finally understood that JS is a retard. Other 30% are one themselves. Just get of JS's nuts already!!

Gowza
June 22, 2010, 12:32 AM
erm, batting is your department siddons, bowling maybe crap but you should still be improving the batting. i do believe the batting has improved, players are better and more consistent but they still don't work as a team to get the total they need to.

thing is he's saying it's the bowling but he also says imrul and junaid had no chance, so basically he's saying the whole team sucks and is a weakness other than tamim and maybe shakib and mash.

seriously please stop saying there isn't a tendulkar or sehwag or dilshan that we are leaving behind, we don't HAVE to have one of those to win, just some really good solid players. the talent pool really isn't that shallow, the problem is they're not developed not that they aren't there.

but imo since batting is his strong point he shouldn't be complaining saying the bowling was the problem then also go and say the batsmen aren't good enough. fair enough if he thinks the batsmen are good enough but the bowlers are behind the 8-ball. you can't say both batsmen and bowlers are poor but only blame the bowlers....

Imteaz
June 22, 2010, 02:44 AM
Accept the truth.

alibangali
June 22, 2010, 03:35 AM
Changing the coach won't help one bit. I can assure you that. But as OP said a bowling coach will be real handy.

WRONG

Changing the coach will change the approach and mentality of how we play games. It may not change the results dramatically, however playing with a positive approach will give us more victories.

Sport is about being competitive and winning, if we disregard this then we are just insulting sportsmanship. Play the game to win or dont play at all. We may lose matches trying to win but truly we are losers to begin with if we don't have the will to win at all.

Dilscoop
June 22, 2010, 04:30 AM
^ to add to that, just think about WC07. Why do you think we did so well? Who actually thought that we could go through to Super 8, over SL or IND? Any neutral cricket fans wouldn't have thought of this. Chances were very little, odds were very low. But we did it. And then we did great in Super 8 as well. Why do you think we did all those things? It was the approach and mentality set by the coach in the dressing room. Siddons dont have a clue about that. And that coach was known for that. That's how he changed the SL cricket.

Just look at Zims now. If we play them now, we will clearly lose a series to them, because they are really high in self belief, and we aren't. Sports is all about spirit, pride, approach, body language. Just watch any sports movies and take a look at the coaches. 'Hoosiers' will be a great example.

"batting coach, batting coach" #$@! that! Just go home! He had no idea about our cricket when he 1st came, and he still doesn't after 4 years.

lamisa
June 22, 2010, 05:15 AM
People are coming to a realization. I'd say 70% of members in this thread finally understood that JS is a retard. Other 30% are one themselves. Just get of JS's nuts already!!

i want to give you piece of my mind.i am a JS supporter and u don't know me at all and you are calling me a retard.who gave you the right to say so?u can hold on to your opinion but please learn to respect other people's opinions as well.just because you think you are right doesn't mean that other people cannot be right.you should go take an attitude makeover along with our players.and please stop passing your own verdicts on who's gay and who's a retard based on NOTHING,okay?

simon
June 22, 2010, 05:33 AM
his strategies & the way he leads the team as a coach is very questionable,he only believes on Tamim & I noticed 1 thing,TI & Siddons r always sitting together & talking as if the rest of the plyrs don't hv the right or scared or doesn't want to be anywhere near Siddons.
we can only afford to hv him as a batting coach,because of him our bowling became weaker,he doesn't care abt the bowling,it's all abt bttng for him.

unda_bhai
June 22, 2010, 05:54 AM
People are coming to a realization. I'd say 70% of members in this thread finally understood that JS is a retard. Other 30% are one themselves. Just get of JS's nuts already!!

no need to resort to name calling n making vivid sexual innuendo.

zainab
June 22, 2010, 06:05 AM
his strategies & the way he leads the team as a coach is very questionable,he only believes on Tamim & I noticed 1 thing,TI & Siddons r always sitting together & talking as if the rest of the plyrs don't hv the right or scared or doesn't want to be anywhere near Siddons.
we can only afford to hv him as a batting coach,because of him our bowling became weaker,he doesn't care abt the bowling,it's all abt bttng for him.

I think he sits next to Tamim because Tamim is the only one who can speak and understand perfect English, so the comfort level is there, also Tamim is his one diamond.

6alltheway
June 22, 2010, 06:38 AM
Forget Zunaed and Imrul, even Sachin and Sehwag would've failed to lead chasing 385+ against Pak. It's a well known fact, there's nothing wrong in saying it. You're being far too cynical. :doh:

first of all no top 8 team would of given such a huge lead and if they did only Austrailia would of pulled it off or come close to it.

Baundule
June 22, 2010, 06:47 AM
South Africa won chasing 434 against Australia.

thebest
June 22, 2010, 07:26 AM
As a head coach to not have faith in your own players is a crime and he should be sacked.
We would have had less criticism if everyone was out for under 200 trying to chase the score.

We might as well stop playing now, our bowlers are crap and they will concede too much runs. Then our batsmen are incapable of chasing these runs so we might as well not waste publics money and time.

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ditto.
Please withdraw from all future tournament till we find 11 Tamim

Miraz
June 22, 2010, 07:45 AM
miraz bro, no disrespect, do u have any experience playing cricket at a competitive level and see first hand wat the coache's role is? or do u just hire n fire?

For your kind information, I have played competitive cricket (league cricket) for at least 10 years. I know the game quite well and clearly understand the importance of mindset in competitive sports.

Miraz
June 22, 2010, 07:48 AM
I think he sits next to Tamim because Tamim is the only one who can speak and understand perfect English, so the comfort level is there, also Tamim is his one diamond.

Not true at all.

Ash understands English fairly well, Jahurul Riyad, Mushfiq and Shakib are very good at English.

Nafi
June 22, 2010, 09:00 AM
Forget Zunaed and Imrul, even Sachin and Sehwag would've failed to lead chasing 385+ against Pak. It's a well known fact, there's nothing wrong in saying it. You're being far too cynical. :doh:

ditto

zainab
June 22, 2010, 01:28 PM
I dont think anyone here should blame Siddons for the bowling, blame it on the cheapies BCB who do not want to hire a very good fast bowling coach. If they do not do this quickly, BD has no chance whatsoever in the WC 11. At one time their bowling was quite good, batting was the problem, now BD cricket is going downhill very quickly, the boys seem to have no energy, and the fighting spirit is gone. This is where I blame Siddons, very poor motivator.

Tiger444
June 22, 2010, 09:23 PM
I dont think anyone here should blame Siddons for the bowling, blame it on the cheapies BCB who do not want to hire a very good fast bowling coach. If they do not do this quickly, BD has no chance whatsoever in the WC 11. At one time their bowling was quite good, batting was the problem, now BD cricket is going downhill very quickly, the boys seem to have no energy, and the fighting spirit is gone. This is where I blame Siddons, very poor motivator.

Ya the bowling aspect isn't Siddons fault..BCB are just total idiots in not tackling this problem..here we have such talented fast bowlers in Shafiul and Rubel yet BCB gets Ramanayeke who didn't do much at all..BCB just doesn't care about our cricket and that's gonna hurt us big time..

Ajfar
June 22, 2010, 09:36 PM
Siddons puts way too much importance on batting alone, it should be half and half.

nobody
June 23, 2010, 01:04 AM
Ya the bowling aspect isn't Siddons fault..
Yes it is his fault. He destroyed the bowling alone. Rasel were dropped each time he has a bad game or two after coming from injury. He did nothing to keep Rafiq. When each and everyone in BC understand Mash is not a death over bowler he continued with it. These three has nothing to do with the SL guy. And I fail to find any strategy in bowling opposition. It is coach job to devise strategy and man in the green job is to implement. I fail to saw anything there

unda_bhai
June 23, 2010, 07:59 AM
Yes it is his fault. He destroyed the bowling alone. Rasel were dropped each time he has a bad game or two after coming from injury. He did nothing to keep Rafiq. When each and everyone in BC understand Mash is not a death over bowler he continued with it. These three has nothing to do with the SL guy. And I fail to find any strategy in bowling opposition. It is coach job to devise strategy and man in the green job is to implement. I fail to saw anything there

global warming was also siddons' fault.

nahaz
June 23, 2010, 09:07 AM
[quote=Gowza;1172620]

seriously please stop saying there isn't a tendulkar or sehwag or dilshan that we are leaving behind, we don't HAVE to have one of those to win, just some really good solid players. the talent pool really isn't that shallow, the problem is they're not developed not that they aren't there.
quote]

ditto..India doesn't have a great bowling line-up yet they keep winning..because as a team they function properly. Even Windies have pulled off a draw in the last test after South Africa hammering their bowling for two days. With Siddons' approach, the players would mentally just give up and lose after such a score;instead of trying to score a draw. Giving up so absolutely is pathetic. Even basic instincts should tell them to throw a few punches before they lost. If they scored 300 on this pitch, that would have been some consolation, but the target was 270, and even that they failed to do. 250 under such a target is like getting 150 under pressure.If Pakistan scored 250, we'd have got all out under 150 with this kind of effort.

Raynman
June 23, 2010, 09:18 AM
global warming was also siddons' fault.

with all the hot air he blows at the press conferences, it could very well be.

As HEAD COACH, deficiency in bowling is also his fault.

Dilscoop
June 23, 2010, 04:00 PM
To: Pro & Anti JS groups.
Subject: blank

Dear BC-Members,
It's bad enough our team is all divided into 11 groups. Lets not do this to ourselves. This is what's going on for past 48 hrs. Pro sides are saying, JS is good, he did many good things to our players. He improved our batsmen many ways. Yes, JS has. But he has done things individually. He is missing the unity thing. And Antis are saying, JS is a bad coach, because he is negative, and he has failed to motivate the team and gel them together. So basically both group is saying the same thing, but in different ways. Both side wants only good things for our cricket. Both side wants us to win some matches. I don't why this argument is going on for last 2-3 days. There are like 7-8 JS threads. And can't even remember where was I having discussion last time.

So to end this thing, we just need to get a head coach, and keep JS as a batting coach. Because as the Pros said JS made our batsman more responsible, and clearly he did. Never thought our players could avg 30-40 (excluding that fool). So we keep him. And clearly he has failed to work as a head coach. Even he himself said he isnt a head coach, he is the batting coach. He is very negative, he can't really motivate the team. That's why we aren't winning. And you can't win as a team, unless you are all spirited and motivated. (Eg. Shahadat 5fw against Indian, Tamim against Boycott, Bangladesh in WC07). So we need to find someone who can do that. We need to find a bowling head coach. That way he can work to gel and motivate the team together, and work on our bowling. Because our bowling unit is ****. We all can agree on that.

So who can be that 'perfect man'? I really can't think of any one. I am familiar with the cricket coaches. You guys pick. Don't pick someone who won't come to Bangladesh. (eg Warne, McGrath, Wasim Akram)


Where Am I:

< --------ANTI JS------------------▼--[]----------------PRO JS---------->

I was in the middle but after last match, I can;t have him as the head coach. The soon BCB realizes the better for our cricket.

Dilscoop
June 23, 2010, 04:04 PM
As HEAD COACH, deficiency in bowling is also his fault.
WRONG!

You cant blame him for bowling mess up. He is a head coach, I get it, but he has no idea hand on bowling.

Gary Kirsten - India's head coach, top class batsmen. Indian bowling is ****. No 1 is blaming Gary for that. What's he suppose to do? He can't help that. They have a bowling coach. And blame goes there. (even then you can't blame the bowling coach. Both India and Bdesh have bad road, flat pitches around the country. Who would have the courage to become a bowler? They really need to fix the pitches.)

alibangali
June 23, 2010, 04:39 PM
WRONG!

You cant blame him for bowling mess up. He is a head coach, I get it, but he has no idea hand on bowling.

Gary Kirsten - India's head coach, top class batsmen. Indian bowling is ****. No 1 is blaming Gary for that. What's he suppose to do? He can't help that. They have a bowling coach. And blame goes there. (even then you can't blame the bowling coach. Both India and Bdesh have bad road, flat pitches around the country. Who would have the courage to become a bowler? They really need to fix the pitches.)

You are right he can not improve their bowling since he does not know how but he can show them some support by not slagging them off in public and by putting some strategies in place so that the whole team supports them to allow them to get success (i.e wickets). It is quite evident that JS wants his batsmen to get 50s and 100s but what about the bowlers. It seems like they have very little support apart from opposition batsmen in getting their wickets.
BCB also dont seem to give a tosh since they dont hire a bowling coach.

Our bowlers are completely demoralised and deflated and a percentage of the fault also lie with JS.

Dilscoop
June 23, 2010, 05:14 PM
^^ That's exactly why we need to get a head coach. That's why JS is not good enough. That's why post #51. Idk why Pro JS don't get it. JS is just dividing the team into many groups, instead of bringing them together!

Raynman
June 23, 2010, 05:25 PM
WRONG!

You cant blame him for bowling mess up. He is a head coach, I get it, but he has no idea hand on bowling.

Gary Kirsten - India's head coach, top class batsmen. Indian bowling is ****. No 1 is blaming Gary for that. What's he suppose to do? He can't help that. They have a bowling coach. And blame goes there. (even then you can't blame the bowling coach. Both India and Bdesh have bad road, flat pitches around the country. Who would have the courage to become a bowler? They really need to fix the pitches.)

how long do u think Kirsten will last if IND doesn't deliver, whether it's bowling or batting that causes it?

I doubt indian fans will look at all the centuries and forget the W-L record.

I don't blame JS for the bowlers technique but I do blame him for creating an environment where they are not praised but insulted at the first chance he gets
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reyme
June 23, 2010, 05:36 PM
^ to add to that, just think about WC07. Why do you think we did so well? Who actually thought that we could go through to Super 8, over SL or IND? Any neutral cricket fans wouldn't have thought of this. Chances were very little, odds were very low. But we did it. And then we did great in Super 8 as well. Why do you think we did all those things? It was the approach and mentality set by the coach in the dressing room. Siddons dont have a clue about that. And that coach was known for that. That's how he changed the SL cricket.

Just look at Zims now. If we play them now, we will clearly lose a series to them, because they are really high in self belief, and we aren't. Sports is all about spirit, pride, approach, body language. Just watch any sports movies and take a look at the coaches. 'Hoosiers' will be a great example.

"batting coach, batting coach" #$@! that! Just go home! He had no idea about our cricket when he 1st came, and he still doesn't after 4 years.

Exactly my thought! Drop this "Excuse Coach" and get a "real head coach" ASAP.
I am worried without some instant WIN we are all set to lose our status.

JS did more harm than any other coaches before by telling ther world media that we cant compete at this level. Dav never ever did that, and you cant do that, no matter what. You are THE coach...you get paid to make the team compete...you are NOT a team performance analyst. You want to talk rubbish, become a talk show host or journalist.

reyme
June 23, 2010, 05:47 PM
Yes it is his fault. He destroyed the bowling alone. Rasel were dropped each time he has a bad game or two after coming from injury. He did nothing to keep Rafiq. When each and everyone in BC understand Mash is not a death over bowler he continued with it. These three has nothing to do with the SL guy. And I fail to find any strategy in bowling opposition. It is coach job to devise strategy and man in the green job is to implement. I fail to saw anything there


Great post! If the bowling sucks, if you need help, go make it a point to BCB that we need a bowling coach, right now. Go hire one from Aussies. Do soemthing for GODs sake!

What did he do? Nothing. What does he do for team and bowling startegy? Nothing. He has absolutely no gameplan for his captain. It is the THE coach who is suppose to devise the strategy for the game, known as "gameplan". Since there is no such plan, we see unthinkable bowling change, fielding setups and clueless act by the captain in the field. If you listen to the commentators during the games, you know what I mean...

This what happens when you have no brain behind the curtain. Everthing sufferes, everybody suffers.

Nafi
June 23, 2010, 06:05 PM
Just need a really good bowling coach, with great innovative game plans.

Dilscoop
June 23, 2010, 06:39 PM
how long do u think Kirsten will last if IND doesn't deliver, whether it's bowling or batting that causes it?

I doubt indian fans will look at all the centuries and forget the W-L record.

I don't blame JS for the bowlers technique but I do blame him for creating an environment where they are not praised but insulted at the first chance he gets
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Kirsten lasted for 3 years now. No 1 blamed him for bowling. And no one will. And also he did not criticize and insult the bowlers in front of press like JS. India's last coach MESSED up their team. That coach ruined a good bowler like Irfan Pathan, by making him into a bowling ALL-ROUNDER, making him open the batting and what not. He spread the team all over the place. There were so many groups in the team. Kirsten came and made them one unit, made them united as ever. And now even though India has 3 different teams (ODI, TEST, T20) they are still one unit. Something that our 'head-coach' JS failed to do...

Gowza
June 23, 2010, 06:52 PM
siddons is head coach, everything is his problem, of course he can only do as much as the BCB are willing to do, he's said we need a good bowling coach before hasn't he? maybe he has already gone to them and said he wants/needs a bowling coach but they haven't done anything about it.

unda_bhai
June 24, 2010, 06:32 AM
with all the hot air he blows at the press conferences, it could very well be.

As HEAD COACH, deficiency in bowling is also his fault.


i forgot to mention France's exit was also siddons' fault. deficiency in player brain cells are also his problem.

BANFAN
June 24, 2010, 06:57 AM
JS was always always reluctant to take a bowling coach. He loves to preverve problems, egulo e to bipode oor kaje lage. :)

BANFAN
June 24, 2010, 07:02 AM
i forgot to mention France's exit was also siddons' fault. deficiency in player brain cells are also his problem.

You are brilliant... ;)

Raynman
June 24, 2010, 10:19 AM
i forgot to mention France's exit was also siddons' fault. deficiency in player brain cells are also his problem.

France's coach was not smart enough to have bull excuses like Siddons' ready and his poor performance got him the axe. He also wasn't lucky enough to have blind apologists following and protecting him like Siddons seems to have.

For a country like France to not make it out of the 1st round and to barely qualify for the WC does deserve an axing of the coach. AS DOES a 0-23 record in 6 months for Bangladesh with the team being instructed to do so.

shakibrulz
June 24, 2010, 10:40 AM
i forgot to mention France's exit was also siddons' fault. deficiency in player brain cells are also his problem.

:lol:

zainab
June 24, 2010, 10:56 PM
If all you fans try to analyse what really went wrong, then Mash should carry a lot of blame for allowing Pakistan to make 385runs, most senior bowler, leaked runs and dropping that catch from Afridi, also Sakib was not serious enough to realize what was happening, his field placement was really defensive, Pakistan stole many runs, ones and twos. I dont think that he is smart on the field, seems to have no idea of captaincy, I never saw Mash advise any of the bowlers as to how to correct their line and length. Poor Shafiul tried hard, but he is so young and inexperienced.
I will also give 50% of the blame to Sakib for very poor captaincy.

Tigers_eye
June 24, 2010, 11:36 PM
385 was a record in the ground. Mashrafe was horrendous to start with. I don't see any problem blaming the bowlers. I would like to add fielding with it. The drop by Mash of Afridi at 32 was costly. Raz and Mash fielded like para cricketers.

al-Sagar
June 24, 2010, 11:52 PM
i forgot to mention France's exit was also siddons' fault. deficiency in player brain cells are also his problem.

now u can add italy .... soon amy be spain, germany, england

unda_bhai
June 25, 2010, 12:09 AM
now u can add italy .... soon amy be spain, germany, england

yah i was going to add.