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rinathq
July 9, 2010, 12:56 PM
I watched the last game from start till end. Observed Bangladesh bowling. I am sorry to say, we were no threat what so ever except Sakib and few times Mash. What else??
Mash does not have a lot of choices. I think we have stretched our batting lineup a bit long. Trust me it doesn't matter now how many batsman plays. Its going to be Kayes, Jahirul, Mah, Junaid up the order. So by the time they got to like 6 down or 7 down batsman, bowler same thing. You have to slog. So why not play an extra bowler?
Mash looked like run out of option on the last match. There was nothing he could do. Sakib was the only good one, Razzaq wasn't at his form. Mahmudullah was just giving full toses and bowls at leg stump. Faisal was ok but not great, Shafi ran out of ideas. If we had one more bowler,(i mean actauly bowler) maybe it wouldve been closer.
The reason why i am saying this is because i dunt see the use of this long batting lineup. Mash needs a third pacer if possible. Naeem won't do either, he will just replace Mahmudullah and be a little more economical. Thats it.

nycpro96
July 9, 2010, 01:03 PM
We need to bowl Rubel as the third pacer by taking out Faisal. Naeem in for Raqibul will give another spin option.

godzilla
July 9, 2010, 01:07 PM
I thought FAisal was chosen as a batsmen who can bowl a bit. Why did he bat at 8? Rasel or even Shadat (sometimes he really pulls it off) could have been usefull.

Ai Ashrafool ke khokono game theke shorai raka jai na.

auntu
July 9, 2010, 01:14 PM
We need to bowl Rubel as the third pacer by taking out Faisal. Naeem in for Raqibul will give another spin option.
I like the idea of replacing Rubel instead of Foisal.

It was a mistake picking up foisal in this tour. Maybe the plan by the selector's were later when Shakib won't be available for the associates tour he would fill Shakib's space. But I'm afraid he is too below par as a bowler. As a batsman he didn't had the chance to show anything. But his technical inefficiency is well known by the Bangladesh cricket followers.

nycpro96
July 9, 2010, 01:25 PM
So my final XI would look something like:

Tamim
Imrul
Junaid
Naeem (4)
Jahurul
Riyad (6)
Shakib (5)
Ashraful
Mashrafe (1)
Shafiul (2)
Rubel (3)

Dilscoop
July 9, 2010, 01:49 PM
^^ Ya really, Naeem at 4. Top of that probably with a jet-lag. He couldn't bat at 4, even if he slept through one whole week. No need to pick Ashraful Naeem or the other keeper.

@ thread starter: this is what I wrote a day before the game on match thread.
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That would be my team. But I doubt it matters. They will pick a horrible combo! They will go with 1 less bowler, will try to fit Fossial or Raqibul, or even both in there. Both will fail, and on the other hand Mashrafe will run out of bowlers to give the bowl to.

I knew this was gonna happen. And I know this will happen again tomorrow. Even though they have 3 extra seamers just sitting there.

Tiger444
July 9, 2010, 02:13 PM
^^ Ya really, Naeem at 4. Top of that probably with a jet-lag. He couldn't bat at 4, even if he slept through one whole week. No need to pick Ashraful Naeem or the other keeper.

@ thread starter: this is what I wrote a day before the game on match thread.


I knew this was gonna happen. And I know this will happen again tomorrow. Even though they have 3 extra seamers just sitting there.

You were about Roqibul though..he did not fail haha..he actually top scored for the innings..

bujhee kom
July 9, 2010, 02:24 PM
This is a very clear fact that we have the most toothless bowling even among the all the associates team probably at the moment. It is a matter of huge/huge grave concern now.

Mash is slow and toothless now, Shakib, the other strike bowler of ours still has some form in bowling but his batting slump and overall downslide of his cricket made his bowling also a bit stale now.

We do not have any strike bowler now. I see it will take a lot longer, a lot more time maybe 3-4 years before the likes of Rubel, Robin, Shafiul, Alauddin, Robiul can start to show any sign of potency or leathalness. I know we have more bowlers in the pipeline, bith pacers and spinners and we actually are excited and eager to see a lot of them in action and see what they can do, but are any of them that much of a news maker even in the domestic scene of BD? I don't think so, it worries me like everybody else. Rasell seems toothless now and Shahadat still very very unreliable. Whatever happenned to Talha? Nothing? FAded out? Nazmul and Sajedul always seemed toothless to me, maybe I am wrong. Nur Hossain , Shabbir Ahmed All rounder I hear they are good, But how much news are they making in the domestic scene? That could at least shed some light what they can do when they get that big chance in the National team. Also Shubhagoto, Sumon Shaha, Delwar Hossain (I think he was toothless though)WHat happenned to them? How are these guys doing? What are these guys doing domestically? What happeneed to Ziur Rahman? I thought he was well built and had some pace, what happenened to that guy?

Green Tea
July 9, 2010, 05:04 PM
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crikfreak
July 9, 2010, 05:58 PM
i feel he'll run out of bowlers again 2moro..... hmmpphh... we need to play one more bowler...

simon
July 9, 2010, 07:16 PM
Rubel got good pace but I'm sure he will be very expnsve.
Stil I want to see Rubel plyng.
And I have a good feeling abt Rzzq.

Dilscoop
July 9, 2010, 07:34 PM
Please pick me as a selector! I will work for free, from all the way down here, through comp, and still select better XIs and squads.

Drop Razzak and 'rest' Riyad. Pick up Rubel and Nazmul. Go with 4 seamers. I can't deal with Razzak anymore!!

rinathq
July 9, 2010, 07:36 PM
[QUOTE=bujhee kom;1180334]
Mash isn't toothless dude, He wasn't much faster than he is now. But as you have seen, his speed is improving game by game. He is bowling fine. He got a wicket or 2 on every single match after his return except the last one. He striked quite early on the Asia Cup games as well as practice ones.

rinathq
July 9, 2010, 07:39 PM
Please pick me as a selector! I will work for free, from all the way down here, through comp, and still select better XIs and squads.

Drop Razzak and 'rest' Riyad. Pick up Rubel and Nazmul. Go with 4 seamers. I can't deal with Razzak anymore!!

Here is the thing, we can't drop Razzaq no matter what. Spin is our strength. He has been decent, didn't ball anything as bad so that we talk about kicking him out. Nazmul is barely effective. He was only effective against ZIM. 3 pacers is fine. Shafi and Mash is swinging the ball around. We need a fast option and there is no one faster than him at the moment.

al-Sagar
July 9, 2010, 09:02 PM
at this moment need 11 fresh (not jet lagged)players .... pacers, spinners, trundlesrs whatever .......

shabbir
July 9, 2010, 09:08 PM
IMO after changing his action one of our strike bowler Razzak become very ordinary bowler,that is one of the worries of BD. There is no point to play with so many bits and piece players.Take Rubel in place of riad/faisal.

Dilscoop
July 9, 2010, 09:39 PM
Here is the thing, we can't drop Razzaq no matter what. Spin is our strength. He has been decent, didn't ball anything as bad so that we talk about kicking him out. Nazmul is barely effective. He was only effective against ZIM. 3 pacers is fine. Shafi and Mash is swinging the ball around. We need a fast option and there is no one faster than him at the moment.
No, what you are saying is, it seems like he bowled good, because he only got hit for few 4s and 6s. But he bowled shitty, thats why his figured did not look good. He could not stop the singles, and doubles, his bowled all over the place. And he picked up a lucky wicket, or else it was gonna be 64/0.

Razzak was never a good bowler. He was a good chucker. Now he can't chuck any more, and he is not good any more.

reyme
July 9, 2010, 09:46 PM
Please pick me as a selector! I will work for free, from all the way down here, through comp, and still select better XIs and squads.

Drop Razzak and 'rest' Riyad. Pick up Rubel and Nazmul. Go with 4 seamers. I can't deal with Razzak anymore!!

I will go with you dude. You will do much better as a selector. Our selectors are clueless, I wonder if they even listen to the commentators at all. The team selection often does not make any sense.

Razzak is so washed out. Bring back Rafiq. At least bring some real spinner. Whatever happened to our endless supply of SLA?

reyme
July 9, 2010, 09:48 PM
We need an intensive bowling conditioning camp ASAP. Our bowlers need some world class coaching and conditioning.

reyme
July 9, 2010, 09:52 PM
Mash is not getting good support from his coach, as far as bowling plan is concerned.
It does not seem like the coaching staff sat with the captain abount some bowling or gameplan.

And when will our coach ever learn how to use batting powerplay? I thought he is a batting coach!
Or is he a batting trainer?

rinathq
July 9, 2010, 10:12 PM
No, what you are saying is, it seems like he bowled good, because he only got hit for few 4s and 6s. But he bowled shitty, thats why his figured did not look good. He could not stop the singles, and doubles, his bowled all over the place. And he picked up a lucky wicket, or else it was gonna be 64/0.

Razzak was never a good bowler. He was a good chucker. Now he can't chuck any more, and he is not good any more.

Alright, say for the sake of this argument, i admit that he sucks, whats the replacement? Can u bring another specialist spinner better than him right now??

rinathq
July 9, 2010, 10:15 PM
Mash is not getting good support from his coach, as far as bowling plan is concerned.
It does not seem like the coaching staff sat with the captain abount some bowling or gameplan.

And when will our coach ever learn how to use batting powerplay? I thought he is a batting coach!
Or is he a batting trainer?

I agree, it doesn't seem like they are working together. But honestly, the players seemed happy and united.

Dilscoop
July 9, 2010, 10:34 PM
Alright, say for the sake of this argument, i admit that he sucks, whats the replacement? Can u bring another specialist spinner better than him right now??
lol, no not just for the sake of this argument, he DOES suck pretty bad. His replacement for rest of this tour: who says we need another spinner for his replacement? If that was the case, they shouldn't have brought 5 seamers. Instead should have taken one or two back-up spinners. Now Nazmul, Rasel, Rubel just sitting there. Any one of them can replace him. Shakib is enough for our spin section. Hell even Deckens looked better than Razzak from the other end. If Riyad plays, then he could spin the ball too. If not, then take another fast bowler and pick one of Riyad and Deckens, which ever is better spinner. Riyad+Deckens = 14 overs for 66 runs, and thats way better than Razzaks figure. So replacment is not a problem here for this tour.

And for long time: hey don't ask me, ask BCB what they are doing with the spinners. We are suppose to produce spinners if we can't get fast bowlers.

And what is Razzak doing to fix himself? I need to know this, because it's been a year, and he still couldn't fix himself. And stop playing him in whites and baggy green.

BANFAN
July 10, 2010, 02:53 AM
This is ODI not test, we don't so poor a specialist bowler. Even Riyad, Nayeem, Kapali anyone can replace this Faisal. He is horrible. Even his taste is as poor as his game. That deep sea diving glasses and Mountain climber's action of bowling, even he doesnt know where he is bowling. If he could maintain a good line, length I would have discounted his action and taste.

I was disappointed with his bowling to say the leats.

al-Sagar
July 10, 2010, 03:17 AM
This is ODI not test, we don't so poor a specialist bowler. Even Riyad, Nayeem, Kapali anyone can replace this Faisal. He is horrible. Even his taste is as poor as his game. That deep sea diving glasses and Mountain climber's action of bowling, even he doesnt know where he is bowling. If he could maintain a good line, length I would have discounted his action and taste.

I was disappointed with his bowling to say the leats.

ektu haat ghuraiye ball korte janlei BD team management tare full time specialist bowler hishebe team e khelay ... kee ar kora...