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Rizvi
August 27, 2010, 10:08 AM
The free agency/trade market is a huge opportunity for professional U.S. franchises to upgrade team weaknesses or build/invest for future. In trades, teams engage with one another to cater to their immediate specific needs. With that in mind, an interesting hypothetical question came to my mind and i'm wondering your perspective.

Assume the national cricket teams were franchises and Bangladesh was marketing around for a top notch Bowler, and Pakistan put up Mohammed Aamer in the market. Obviously, Bangladesh doesn't have much trade bait for Pakistan to be interested in other than potentially Tamim (to fill their current opening void) or Shakib (long term allrounder prospect).

Which of the following offers would you (GM of BD team) feel reasonable in return for Mohammed Aamer and are willing to parcitipate in towards improvement of BD? Lets Keep both teams interests in mind with a fair assessment of talents.

1) Aamer for Tamim
2) Aamer for Shakib
3) Aamer for Tamim/Shakib plus someone (specify)
4)Tamim/Shakib for Aamer plus someone (specify)
5) Both Tamim and Shakib for Aamer plus someone (specify)

Zunaid
August 27, 2010, 10:20 AM
Aamer for Ashraful.

If it were Tamim or Shakib, Pakistan would have to trade in Aamer and throw in MoYo.

Rizvi
August 27, 2010, 10:25 AM
If i had to part with one of them in return for Aamer, I would definitely select Shakib rather than Tamim. I think Tamim is much more intrigal to team success atm.

If Ashraful were brought up in any part of the discussion (even if it is a free thow in), i think the conversation would halt right on the spot with immediate exit.

shakibrulz
August 27, 2010, 10:44 AM
Aamer for Ashraful.

If it were Tamim or Shakib, Pakistan would have to trade in Aamer and throw in MoYo.

Aamer for Ash sounds just fine :-D

On a serious note, Shak+Tamim->Aamer+Moyo sounds fair deal :smug:

roman
August 27, 2010, 10:46 AM
Shak for Afridi...

shakibrulz
August 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
If i had to part with one of them in return for Aamer, I would definitely select Shakib rather than Tamim. I think Tamim is much more intrigal to team success atm.


Tamim out, and you have batsmen like Kayes, Zunaed, Zahurul who can all perform decently.

But bowling is absolutely Shakib centric. The next closest thing you can rely on is who, Shafiul? Mortaza ain't test material. Don't overlook what Shaks has done to the team, just coz he's goin through a rough patch with the bat.

Ashfaq
August 27, 2010, 11:13 AM
If we're trading, I'll trade Watto for Tamim and Steyn for Mash. Or I'll take the whole Pak team for Tamim + Shakib. Else I'm not trading. Also, I'm giving Ash away for free.

beshideshi
August 27, 2010, 11:33 AM
Interesting thread. i think most of the international teams would be more than happy to have Tamim or Shakib in their teams. Their quality is self explanatory.
If we had to trade, we should trade in a world class seamer, and that would be Dale Steyn in my opinion. I think Dale Steyn is the best pacer in the world and South Africa would happily take a spinner of Shakib's caliber. Ideally, South Africa won't take any other player from our team, they don't need Tamim. So it will be Shakib-> Steyn.
And we can perhaps get Watson/Hauritz/Angelo Matthews -> Tamim.

nycpro96
August 27, 2010, 11:55 AM
The only suitable trade for Tamim would be Watson in my opinion. I don't think I'd trade Steyn for Shakib as age as well as Steyn's effectiveness in BD pitches wouldn't be as great.

dolcevita
August 27, 2010, 01:01 PM
I will give Ash + taka 1000000 for free
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Ashfaq
August 27, 2010, 01:03 PM
^^ I'll take it. I take both cash or check. I'll PM you my account number when you need it. So, when is the delivery?

zman
August 27, 2010, 02:45 PM
I'd trade Tamim and Ash for Aamer and two first round picks, in other words, two young up and coming fast bowlers who have the potential to make it into their national squad, i.e. Wahab Riaz. That should be a fair trade given many of these talented Pakistani bowlers will never get the chance to represent their country as the competition for those few spots is so stiff.

On the other hand, with Zunaid and Imrul at the top/Shak in the middle coupled with a strong pace attack/decent spin I'd like our chances against the weaker test nations on any given day as even top teams like Aus and Eng keep struggling against quality pace attacks.

lamisa
August 28, 2010, 02:23 AM
i'll trade tamim for mohammed ameer,umar gul and afridi.i think it's a fair deal because pakistan desperately needs some spine in their batting order.i would also give ash as a token of appreciation and aftab as a complimentary gift!

Zunaid
August 28, 2010, 03:21 AM
i'll trade tamim for mohammed ameer,umar gul and afridi.i think it's a fair deal because pakistan desperately needs some spine in their batting order.i would also give ash as a token of appreciation and aftab as a complimentary gift!

:)

Ash might not be appreciated nor will Aftab be taken as a compliment.

_Rafi_
August 28, 2010, 04:05 AM
No trade! I'd gift Ashraful to any nation for free. Any taker?

soccer20reverse
August 28, 2010, 04:33 AM
Tendulkar for Ashraful... indian team needs an arrogant batsman.
Dilshan for Javed Omar... Bangladesh is getting the short stack of the deal, but still close enough...
Sangakkara for Khaled Mashud... Sri lanka is getting solid experience...
Gayle for Mehrab Hossain jr... WI needs a slow player to hold the innings...
Steyn for Tapash Baissya... SA could use a colored person in their team...
Asif for Dilshan... Pakistan needs a good opener...
Aamir for Shariar Nafees... Pakistan needs another opener...
Afridi for Nazimuddin... Pakistan needs another opener...
Umar Gul for Nafees Iqbal... Pakistan needs another opener...
Ricky Ponting for Siddons... Both australians, fair enough...
Amla for Mohammed Sharif... south africa doesn't have any bowlers that bowls 70 mph...

Zunaid
August 28, 2010, 05:50 AM
Back with a bang. Very funny.

How about a straight swap between Mehrab jr and Boycott. I am tired of listening to Boycott's mom.

_Rafi_
August 28, 2010, 06:35 AM
Tendulkar for Ashraful... indian team needs an arrogant batsman.
Dilshan for Javed Omar... Bangladesh is getting the short stack of the deal, but still close enough...
Sangakkara for Khaled Mashud... Sri lanka is getting solid experience...
Gayle for Mehrab Hossain jr... WI needs a slow player to hold the innings...
Steyn for Tapash Baissya... SA could use a colored person in their team...
Asif for Dilshan... Pakistan needs a good opener...
Aamir for Shariar Nafees... Pakistan needs another opener...
Afridi for Nazimuddin... Pakistan needs another opener...
Umar Gul for Nafees Iqbal... Pakistan needs another opener...
Ricky Ponting for Siddons... Both australians, fair enough...
Amla for Mohammed Sharif... south africa doesn't have any bowlers that bowls 70 mph...

where is like button?:-)
Liked the post very much!

nycpro96
August 28, 2010, 12:13 PM
Tendulkar for Ashraful... indian team needs an arrogant batsman.
Dilshan for Javed Omar... Bangladesh is getting the short stack of the deal, but still close enough...
Sangakkara for Khaled Mashud... Sri lanka is getting solid experience...
Gayle for Mehrab Hossain jr... WI needs a slow player to hold the innings...
Steyn for Tapash Baissya... SA could use a colored person in their team...
Asif for Dilshan... Pakistan needs a good opener...
Aamir for Shariar Nafees... Pakistan needs another opener...
Afridi for Nazimuddin... Pakistan needs another opener...
Umar Gul for Nafees Iqbal... Pakistan needs another opener...
Ricky Ponting for Siddons... Both australians, fair enough...
Amla for Mohammed Sharif... south africa doesn't have any bowlers that bowls 70 mph...

:floor: nice post :D

Nafis 1718
August 28, 2010, 03:34 PM
where is like button?:-)
Liked the post very much!

Great post!!!L-)

tonoy
August 28, 2010, 07:32 PM
I wouldn't trade Tamim and Shakib for any player in the world. Besides, why would anyone in their right minds want to bring in a disgraced cricketer such as Ameer and Asif? I would rather watch Ashraful's sheepish smile on a duck a thousand times than read about a match fixing scandal. I am thankful that none of our boys have ever disgraced us in such manners.

simon
August 28, 2010, 08:35 PM
pathetic.:-P

kalpurush
August 28, 2010, 08:57 PM
Sorry, I won't even trade one of our 3rd division player with any of the TOP Pakistani player. Ashraful to durer kotha.
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kalpurush
August 28, 2010, 09:00 PM
I wouldn't trade Tamim and Shakib for any player in the world. Besides, why would anyone in their right minds want to bring in a disgraced cricketer such as Ameer and Asif? I would rather watch Ashraful's sheepish smile on a duck a thousand times than read about a match fixing scandal. I am thankful that none of our boys have ever disgraced us in such manners.
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Indeed. Indeed. Indeed

BANFAN
August 29, 2010, 02:40 AM
.............
Assume the national cricket teams were franchises and Bangladesh was marketing around for a top notch Bowler, and Pakistan put up Mohammed Aamer in the market. Obviously, Bangladesh doesn't have much trade bait for Pakistan to be interested in other than potentially Tamim (to fill their current opening void) or Shakib (long term allrounder prospect).

Which of the following offers would you (GM of BD team) feel reasonable in return for Mohammed Aamer and are willing to parcitipate in towards improvement of BD? Lets Keep both teams interests in mind with a fair assessment of talents.

1) Aamer for Tamim
2) Aamer for Shakib
3) Aamer for Tamim/Shakib plus someone (specify)
4)Tamim/Shakib for Aamer plus someone (specify)
5) Both Tamim and Shakib for Aamer plus someone (specify)

What are you telling, pak will be happy to exchange their entire team with ours. because almost all of their players sell their skills in black market, can any biz sustain that for long? PCB is almost bankrupt for that, while players are earning in Black.

Ashfaq
August 29, 2010, 04:30 AM
I retract all offers. I won't exchange Our ball boys' toenails for the entire Pakistan team. Our team embarrasses us, humiliates us. But they never disgrace us. We can be proud to say that our players are cricketers, unlike some other team that needs no mentioning.

zman
August 30, 2010, 12:26 PM
^ditto...on second thought I'd bribe PCB just to receive some kind of assurance that they'd try and keep their players at least a mile away from our team both on and off the field

roman
August 30, 2010, 12:39 PM
^ditto...on second thought I'd bribe PCB just to receive some kind of assurance that they'd try and keep their players at least a mile away from our team both on and off the field

Good one :)

lamisa
August 31, 2010, 05:15 AM
i don't appreciate what pakistan cricket has been accused of recently so i take ash back and i would never pay them a compliment for what they have been doing so i take fat aftab back as well!i don't want tamim to be hanging around these scums either so i take him back too:-|

Baundule
August 31, 2010, 08:07 AM
Even if I forget about this scandal, I do not think we will gain anything getting a Paki player. A player's performance depends on the team composition and how he is used. With some more control Rubel can be as good as Amir.

riankhan
August 31, 2010, 12:36 PM
No trade! I'd gift Ashraful to any nation for free. Any taker?

:-D I will do my best........Zaan die dibo.....
Some one....pls help him

dolcevita
August 31, 2010, 02:21 PM
Finally it better ashraful that ameer
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aklemalp
September 1, 2010, 04:12 PM
what kemar roach for rubel hossain
angelo matthews for mahmudullah riyad
ryan ten doeschate for naeem islam
it's just a fantasy,.,. i will never let that happen,bangladeshi's are the best ,go tigers

BANFAN
September 2, 2010, 04:22 AM
Where does this fantasy come from? You are talking about National team players? I tried, but It's so weird to even think. If you aren't proud of your national team, only then you can think such things.